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Game Preview #27 - Bulls at New York Knicks

[Thanks to BULLieving in Miami for today's game preview (sign. up!) on this difficult day. Early east-coast start time of 6:30CST -ed.]

My shameful admission for the day: it is truly painful to write this right now. It's not to say that I wouldn't have put it past this team to have such a meltdown, but with the kind of game the Bulls were having in the first half of last night's game, I just couldn't imagine them blowing it. But alas, they find a way, still, to surprise me.

The thing that aggravates is I find myself thinking many things during that first half. Is Rose finally healthy, basically making November his training camp until he got back in game shape, or did he just "get up" for this one, perhaps catching wind of comparisons with Evans and looking to showcase himself? Is the first half a glimpse of what this team could be on a full-time basis if not for the coach, or were just extremely hot in that half? Truth be told, even when they got out to the early lead, I was pleased to see him playing the starters the bulk of the minutes, perhaps thinking maybe he's trying to get them to not let the foot off the Kings' throats, to keep the "effort" going, to not get comfortable with the lead. That game could've started turning the other way a lot earlier if VDN gets the bench players early, lets the starters lose their edge just sitting on the bench, and then the Kings cut the margin against the Hunters and JJs of the world. By the time the starters would come back in, it would take them a minute to get their heads back in the game, the Kings would have had them on their heels, and we'd get the same result. So which is disappointing: lose the lead in the first half or in the second half? The former is more typical of this team, but the latter is more dramatic. So if you crave basketball worth watching, last night was it. But I'm not getting on VDN's case this time for his rotations. But only this time. Next time, Vinny, you sleep with the fishes (that expression goes so well with his name). On to tonight's game...

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I'm not sure what it is, but something about playing the Knicks always gets me excited, as if these two teams carried on the great rivalries of yesteryear. It'll actually be interesting to watch how the Knicks end up fairing in 2010. Who knows: maybe Derrick goes there as a free agent in a few years to play with a newly assembled core in D'Antoni's run-n-gun system. Rose isn't the passer/ distributor Nash is, but he is definitely athletic enough to get the ball up and down the court. I know many on here differ in your opinion of D'Antoni, but I really wanted him here. Its very possible that this front office, seeing the potential of a Rose-led D'Antoni offense, would've assembled better talent for this roster. But potential is a bad word within the Bulls organization. Eh, who knows... maybe Paxson just lost a bet to VDN during a shooting contest back in the day and owed him. Hey, a real man owns up to his gambling debts.

As much as I love the Bulls beating the Knicks, it's going to be challenging tonight. The Bulls are just not that good on the second game of a back-to-back. Actually, that is a huge understatement. They are just downright bad. They've had 5 back-to-backs. They are 0-5 on the back end of it. Four of those losses came on the road by an average margin of -26.2 points. Now, a dip in stats is expected on the road. Heck, Denver scores 14 points less per game on the road than at home, and with that they STILL outscore the Bulls. But I am not here to compare the Bulls to a good team like Denver, and oddly enough the scoring differential isn't a factor with the Bulls when it comes to home/road, but the performance of their top players is what makes them struggle so much on the road.


PLAYER

           HOME

         ROAD

Rose

18.7pts/ .485FG%

15.7pts/ .419FG%

Deng

19.6pts/ .473FG%

16.8pts/ .454FG%

Salmons

13.1pts/ .364FG%

14.3pts/ .410FG%

Noah

10.5pts/ 12.7rebs

10.0pts/ 10.9rebs

Oddly, Salmons is the one guy whose offense goes up a bit, but you can definitely see an appreciable difference in production. Now, get ready to cry when you see the stats to our key guys on the second game of a back-to-back versus on 1 day's rest (for example, which has happened 13 times). And since 4 of the 5 back end games were on the road, I'll just assume the stats for just the road losses look pretty similar.


PLAYER

     BACK2BACK

     1-DAY REST

Rose

14.2pts/ .412FG%

18.0pts/ .456FG%

Deng

11.6pts/ .377FG%

19.2pts/ .459FG%

Salmons

9.2pts/ .302FG%

15.8pts/ .420FG%

Now, by looking at this you'd think this team was the old San Antonio Spurs who are just gassed on the second night. That one night off to ice the knees does wonders for Tim Duncan, apparently. The Bulls are a team full of young legs. There is no reason whatsoever for this sort of dip. I might understand Salmons (though his drop is very drastic, especially in FG%) though he's in his "prime", if you can call it that. But Rose is a kid and Deng is still plenty young. Tonight's game will hinder on the Bulls' ability to buck the trend of these very telling stats.

Larry Hughes is questionable. And head over to Posting and Toasting (SB's Knicks blog) and let them know we still have a pulse over here.


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yeah...

i guess we just have young…

…or maybe its young and crappy. UGH.

we went out for pizza after the game. -dave wannstedt

by BULLieving in Miami on Dec 22, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

oh yeah, i should change my bab signature now

because right now, there is NO WAY wade, or any FA who cares about winning (Joe Johnson doesn’t, he left a stacked Suns team that could’ve had a shot to go to the finals every year remember), would want to play for the Bulls …

Where 79-44 lead turns into a 4 point loss Happens

by Orange Juice on Dec 22, 2009 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

The progression

First:

All comes down to …Who wants to come play with rose, Noah, and deng

Then:

Any sliver of a chance of Lebron in Chicago chasing his MJ dreams are gone with the flareup with Noah.

Now:

there is NO WAY wade, or any FA who cares about winning would want to play for the Bulls

Haha. Come get sushi tonight.

by YaoPau on Dec 22, 2009 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

ha!

USE THE SOFTWARE. Actions-> Rec/Flag. Reply to comments with the reply button. Rec good fanposts/fanshots so the crud gets pushed down.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 22, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Question about free agents though

If you’re Bosh/LeBron/Wade and these are your choices in free agency:

(A): 6 years, $105 million dollar contract in a sign-and-trade which essentially guts your new team of trade pieces.

or

(B) 5 years, $85 million dollar contract in a straight sign that doesn’t gut your new team.

Don’t you, at age 26/28 (LeBronBosh/Wade), give serious consideration to choice B?

Chances are, this contract will be your best shot at winning a title, so what sense does it make to take away your new team’s assets? Also, LeBron/Bosh have the added benefit of likely being elite five years from now, meaning if they sign a 5-year deal, they can negotiate a mega-extension at age 31 instead of 32, eliminating the extra risk of the 6th year of diminishing skills, for a possibility of more total money.

by YaoPau on Dec 22, 2009 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

i've always felt...

i’m not so sure about Bosh, but Lebron and Wade have such good marketability and make so much money from endorsements, they can make up the difference in lost salary. that’s why i feel Bosh might be in the toughest spot. he doesn’t have the same “stardom” as Wade/ Lebron so… he takes the less money to play for a contender, or option A, which in that case just stay in Toronto, make the extra money AND play with a pretty talented group, maybe a bit more help, and perhaps contend in the East in a few years. it sucks because he is probably dying to get out of there and go to a big market. either option for Bosh is a lose/ lose. Lebron and Wade can pretty much do as they choose.

we went out for pizza after the game. -dave wannstedt

by BULLieving in Miami on Dec 22, 2009 5:15 PM CST up reply actions  

There's likely only lost salary for Wade

because he’d be 34 after his 6th year and probably won’t get another longterm deal. LeBron could make more money via a straight sign, and potentially much more with endorsements.

As for Bosh, I could see him getting more endorsements simply from leaving Toronto. Bosh didn’t even show up on the Fortunate 50, meaning he didn’t make the $15,000,000 total income cutoff despite a $12,455,000 salary last year. Very few endorsements.

So for him, it’s (A) stay in Toronto or move elsewhere in sign/trade/gut, either choice giving him a guaranteed $105 million for six years on a mediocre team, then trying to sign a big extension at age 32, or (B) straight sign somewhere else, make a guaranteed $85 million for five years, give yourself a better chance at a few million a year in endorsements, give yourself a better chance at a title which could lead to more endorsements, and then look for an extension at age 31.

by YaoPau on Dec 22, 2009 5:46 PM CST up reply actions  

You can get an extension after 3 years, too.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Dec 22, 2009 6:39 PM CST up reply actions  

i suck big time!!!

wow, last night’s loss must’ve really done a number on me.

gametime has been fixed.

we went out for pizza after the game. -dave wannstedt

by BULLieving in Miami on Dec 22, 2009 4:55 PM CST reply actions  

Possible bad news for the Bad News Bulls

Hughes is questionable. I’m afraid if Larry can’t play, they don’t have a chance. I hope he has a quick recovery so both teams can launch stupid shots with no ryhme or reason.

Vinny said they weren’t aggressive last night and didn’t execute down the stretch. I think the players were confused because he let the lead slide from 35 to 19 in the 3rd quarter without calling a timeout to regroup. If he would have stopped play to give them one of his Knute Rockne inspirational speeches, that might have made the difference.

For those fans interested in statistics, the Bulls failed to make a field goal in the final 10 minutes and 15 seconds last night. Let’s see how long they can stretch this hoopless streak tonight. Anyone want to take the over or under on 12 minutes and counting?

Do you think we could get enough fans to contribute to chartering a plane for a one way ticket out of town for all the Bulls and Bear coaches, say to Tibet or maybe the North Pole in the spirit of Christmas with Vinny and Lovee the co-pilots?

I plan to write xmas cards rather than watch this potential train wreck. I think it would be more depressing if they win, thus likely giving the suits a reason to extend VDN’s tenure to past the night of the long knives, Christmas Eve. Either way, win or lose, the Bulls loyal fans will lose again.

If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard

by Tyrusmancrush on Dec 22, 2009 6:42 PM CST reply actions  

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