4 team trade Portland/Chicago/Houston/Nets

by Edicus2288i on Dec 15, 2009 1:54 AM CST

I tried this in the ESPN trade machine and it works.

Chicago gets

SF Terrence Williams (NJN)
SG Tracy McGrady (Hou)

PG Steve Blake (Por)
SF Travis Outlaw (Por)

The Nets get

SG John Salmons (Chi)

PF Tyrus Thomas (Chi)

Portland gets

C Tony Battie (NJN)

Houston gets

PG Kirk Hinrich (Chi)

C Jerome James (Chi)

SF Bobby Simmons (NJN)

Why Chicago does this:
-unload Kirk and Salmons
-get something for Tyrus

-Gives us more 2010 flexibility with Tracy McGrady (s+t or go over the cap t bring back if he plays well with Rose)

-Another young SF/SG hybrid in Terrence Williams who wanted to come to Chicag when he was being drafted

Why Portland does this:
-giving up two expirings to get another

-But get the big man they needed to backup Joe Pryz

Why New Jersey does this
-To change up the team
-Not ruining any 2010 plans

-See if Devin Harris and Ty Thomas play well together

Why Houston does this
-unloading McGrady

-Adding Kirk doesn't ruin 2010 plans and gives them a nice 3rd guard behind Brooks and Ariza

- 2 expiring contracts

What do you all think?

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Now THIS is interesting. But have 4 teams ever actually gotten together to make a trade this big?

by kingles on Dec 15, 2009 2:26 AM CST reply actions

Blake and Outlaw for Battie?

Maybe I’m undervaluing Battie (4.8 pts, 3.6 ast per game), but I would be very surprised if Portland was remotely interested in this deal.

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by penguin1 on Dec 15, 2009 2:30 AM CST reply actions

It's not so much having a good player

It’s just having another big body to give 10-15 mins. I would include Gray to Portland, but I doubt he would agree to it.

by Edicus2288i on Dec 15, 2009 2:53 AM CST up reply actions

But I fear this leaves us too thin up front. Its one thing to run a 3-man front court (Gibson, Miller, Noah) while your fourth guy is injured. But if we trade the fourth, shouldn’t we get some type of PF back? Unless you expect a lot of Deng/Johnson to cover the 4, given the logjam at the 3 with Deng, Outlaw, and Williams on the roster?

by torch on Dec 15, 2009 5:52 AM CST reply actions

Good try but Portland gets too little for Blake and Outlaw

by chgobr on Dec 15, 2009 7:23 AM CST reply actions

that was my first instinct.

for whatever reason, they really like Steve Blake. Unless you can get them Hinrich in this deal they wouldn’t do it.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 15, 2009 10:00 AM CST up reply actions

"for whatever reason, they really like Steve Blake"

Nobody can hate the Terps. It’s just how they roll. I’d totally be in favor of this trade.

</terp homerism>

Is Jerry Angelo fired yet?

by ES46NE10 on Dec 17, 2009 1:57 PM CST up reply actions

I think Bayless may be slamming the Hinrich-to-Portland window shut.

by raoulduke on Dec 18, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions

I don't see why New Jersey does this.

They just risk losing Thomas for nothing like the Bulls do. I don’t think they are as concerned about putting on a show to win to impress potential free agents.

On the other hand, they already have 33 SG/SF wings and Williams is the worst. They have enough money to re-sign Thomas, so they could play him vast amounts of minutes and re-sign him for $10 million, they could still potentially make one move to get far enough under to sign a max free agent. I think Thomas still has tons more potential than Terrence Williams, they already have CDR and Lee… they could use their draft pick to draft for-sure PF (Favors, Davis, Patterson)… and if they miss out on LeBron, move Thomas to the 3 and play the new guy at the 4. A front court of Thomas, Favors and Lopez is quite intriguing. It would also make the Bulls better this year, for sure, so that’s always a plus, and when they go to draft, if they aren’t too enamored with Taj Gibson and James Johnson, it would narrow their drafting choices down to PF again… which there are a number of in the teens this year. Althouhg, a lineup of Rose, Williams, Deng, Monroe, Noah is about ten times lower in potential than Rose, Evan Turner, Deng Thomas and Noah, but then, THAT’S YOUR CHICAGO BULLS!!!

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Dec 15, 2009 8:46 AM CST reply actions