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Why isn't there more talk of LeBron...


joining the Bulls next year.  In terms of basketball decisions, would there be a better young roster with cap space this offseason than the Bulls?

Rose

Deng

LeBron

Taj? (I'd rather a serviceable, veteran 4 with a post game with the mid level exception)

Noah

Hinrich, JJ, 2010 rookie, and a SG that can hit the 3 off the bench, and a backup center.

This team would be in contention for titles for the rest of LeBron's career.  The Knicks and the Nets both look absolutely dreadful this year.  The Bulls have a younger, more talented roster than the Cavs do right now.  And I don't see LeBron and Wade ever playing on the same team, they both need/want to be the main playmaker on their respected teams.  This plan would require the Bulls to make an upgrade in coaching as well, obviously. 

 

Michael did just fine becoming the biggest sports icon of the century in Chicago, I don't see why he needs NYC to obtain that.  Why isn't there more mention of Chicago as a contender for LeBron?  I heard Avery Johnson reference Houston, without mention of Chicago, as a possible destination  for James this offseason?  That's ridiculous.

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I think there's no talk because people are being realistic

LeBron is not coming to Chicago.

"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro

by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 6, 2009 9:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'm not talking about the realistic chances of him coming to Chicago.

I just don’t see how coming to the Bulls wouldn’t be his best basketball decision for the present and the future. If his sole desire is to win NBA championships, then I don’t see a better fit outside of Chicago.

by brose on Nov 6, 2009 10:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I would probably agree with you there

Although the Clippers will be under the cap as well, and a James, Davis, Gordon, Griffin, Kaman combo sounds pretty scary. Also the Nets, with Harris, Lopez, Lee and James. But the fact that the Knicks are considered the front runner just verifies to me that this move is not purely about winning and Lebron is full of shit.

"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro

by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 6, 2009 10:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

But are the Knicks frontrunners because of something Lebron has said

or just because of the media speculation? I haven’t seen Lebron do or say anything that makes me think he is going to be a Knick. ESPN, on the other hand, seems to think it’s a lock.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Nov 6, 2009 10:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It really is

I would hate to be a Cavs fan watching that game tonight. It was all about LeBron and his supposed love of NYC. Him gabbing with the stars and whatnot.

by brose on Nov 6, 2009 10:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah and if he leaves Cleveland that franchise will go down the drain.

Well maybe not down the drain but damn could you do that to your own city?

by SoulEater7 on Nov 6, 2009 10:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

no, you were right the first time

if he walks for nothing the cavs are a bottom-rung team

i'm hot for teacher

by DLRoth on Nov 6, 2009 10:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They'd still be aight,

as they would be ~17 million under the cap. Not contender quality, but definitely respectable.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Nov 6, 2009 11:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

oh god

From bad to worse

I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.

by Prevenge on Nov 7, 2009 11:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't care how good he is

if I was a Cavs fan I wouldn’t be able to stomach him after all this NYC love bullshit. The guy is such a fucking phony. Everything he does is choreographed, look at me, bullshit.

"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro

by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 6, 2009 10:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My best friend is a Cavs fan, and he's fed up with him.

The main radio voice in Cleveland has been very tough on Bron for years, and seems to have quite the following.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Nov 6, 2009 10:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The guy is a fake

He said his favorite teams growing up were the Bulls, Cowboys and Yankees. Give me a break.

"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro

by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 6, 2009 10:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Right?

I would think that as a Cavs fan, he would hate the Bulls after what MJ did to them. He’s full of it.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Nov 6, 2009 10:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He’s about as real as the squeeky clean Jordan many of us were presented for so long.

Lets be realistic. Lebron is a major star, he’s competitive and (usually) plays very hard. I don’t like some of the stuff he does (like after the playoff loss last year) but he’s handled his fame better than people like Shaq and Kobe did at such a young age (though maybe not as well as Durant, who is a step below those 3 at a young age).

In the end, why would he go to LA? He doesn’t want to be compared to Kobe within the same franchise. Why would he go to Chicago? An espn article put it best, he wouldn’t want to walk into the UC every night to play basketball and stare at that MJ statue.

Unless New Jersey tanks this season with Harris out for a bit, grabs a nice lottery pick and moves to Brooklyn, I don’t see Lebron leaving Cleveland and giving up the extra money that they can give him.

Why would he go to the Knicks? Other than D’Antoni, they have like nothing assembled there. NJ has Harris, Lopez, Lee and possibly a lottery pick, plus enough money to probably get another 8-12m player along with Lebron. That’s a pretty fast, young and dangerous team.

by RyPac13 on Nov 7, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I backtrack a bit of what I've said,

as Lebron went out of his way during the game to high five Jay-Z after a made shot. During the game!

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Nov 6, 2009 10:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you see what he did after?

He went up to Jay-Z and A-Rod and talked to them on the court. It was kinda overkill.

I don’t think LeBron and Shaq are real tight. Random thought.

by SoulEater7 on Nov 6, 2009 10:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That I did not see.

You’d think if they were so tight they would chill after the game and talk then, not have to converse on the court. You’re right, it was all for the camera.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Nov 6, 2009 10:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It was really weird.

He was hugging like Jay-Z, A-Rod, that Short dude in his commercials, CC, some other rich people.

by SoulEater7 on Nov 6, 2009 10:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's definitely more of an ESPN thing to be sure

and there’s no question they are evil bastards, but LeBron is doing absolutely nothing to shut it all up. In fact I think he’s provoking it a little. Like wearing New York themed Nike’s last year. Who the hell would do that when going to play an opponent in their place? If that guy was playing for my team I would hate his ass.

"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro

by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 6, 2009 10:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

did you see him gladhanding all the celebs last night?

he’d get to do that every home game :).

Remember, the guy wants to be a ‘global icon’, haha.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 7, 2009 6:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hollinger brought up the TWolves as well

not going to happen, but they have a decent core of roleplayers for LeBron.

LeBron said it himself, ANY team he plays on will be a contender. And he’s right. I don’t think his decision means he cares less about winning.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 7, 2009 6:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I could see James wanting to go to the Clippers to be their savior and Kobe rival.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Nov 9, 2009 10:41 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...

I watched a Lebronless Bulls team beat his team on their home court. The Cavs only kept it close because we couldn’t make shots and because they had LeBron. If that Cavs team is considered a contender with Bron, then a Bulls team with Lebron would HAVE to be one of the few favorites in the East next season, next to an aging Celtics team and the Magic. He would be competing for titles for the rest of his career surrounded by Rose, Deng, and Noah. What other team can instantly put him into that position?

by brose on Nov 6, 2009 10:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Is this your line of thought?
“For instance, it bears mentioning that joining the Chicago squad LeBron’s team lost to Thursday night would be dramatically different,” ESPN’s John Hollinger writes today. “With a young star point guard, quality big men and lots of secondary help, the Bulls — who could get as much as $20 million under the cap if John Salmons opts out of his contract, conveniently opening a spot in the lineup for LeBron at the same time — would offer a more clear opportunity for long-term success.”

by SoulEater7 on Nov 6, 2009 10:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

At least Hollinger notices.

by brose on Nov 6, 2009 10:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the Bulls need to trade Salmons

lets not leave him the option of opting in. Get him out of here so we have max cap room to sign a free agent or two.

by Basketball Smurf on Nov 6, 2009 10:39 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I've looked around at some websites and

none of the websites have Salmon’s 2010 year as a strict player option. What is his status? Mutual, team or player option?

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Nov 6, 2009 10:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If it's a team or mutual option, as I hope it is,

they should just let him walk.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Nov 6, 2009 11:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I just don't think it's realistic for the Bulls.

All the hoopla around that guy it’s really bizarre how would that work here? I don’t think it would.

by SoulEater7 on Nov 6, 2009 10:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It seemed to work out ok when Michael was here...

"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro

by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 6, 2009 10:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

right right. I think LeBron puts himself above team.

I mean with MJ you knew he’d kill to win. With LeBron there are so many outside factors like Jay-Z, NYC, the city of Cleveland, ESPN. David Stern. He has done some completely arrogant things that I think get in the way of winning. I used to respect him but there just so much nonsense with that dude now.

by SoulEater7 on Nov 6, 2009 11:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh I know.

I’m not saying they wouldn’t win a title. Or that it wouldn’t be great for the Bulls.

With all the fanfare he’s getting in NYC and all his connections I just don’t see him coming here. The way he acts him over team just wouldn’t mesh?

I think Wade is more realistic.

by SoulEater7 on Nov 6, 2009 11:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I perceive a sense of general entitlement with LeBron that really bothers me

I know he’s a competitor and I believe he really wants to win, but I get this feeling that he thinks it should just be handed to him somehow.

That’s the big difference I see between LBJ and MJ. Jordan had this insane force of will that LeBron just seems to lack.

i'm hot for teacher

by DLRoth on Nov 6, 2009 11:05 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I think the difference is..

LeBron craves attention and Jordan craved winning and gambling.

by SoulEater7 on Nov 6, 2009 11:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

After his postgame comments...

I’m really thinking he’s not going to stay in Cleveland. When he was asked about any prerequisite he had for signing this offseason. Instead of just squashing the notion (which I would think you’d do if you’re seriously thinking of staying), he goes into how he wants to win, and how he wants a team that will he can help groom and gets better every day. There are two options if he’s really serious about that. NJ Nets and the Bulls.

by Ceasaleo on Nov 7, 2009 4:44 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

jordan once said that even though he wanted to win badly,

he would not accept a situation where the team won but he wasnt dominant. jordan only wanted to win if it was clear he was “the man”.

"What is going on up here?"
"I never know, man."

by TheMoon on Nov 7, 2009 11:12 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He really said that?

Was it in an interview, or some sort of book?

by Stacey_Is_King on Nov 8, 2009 8:55 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yes, its in sam smiths book. its smith quoting mj.

"What is going on up here?"
"I never know, man."

by TheMoon on Nov 8, 2009 12:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

jordan put himself above the rest of his team a good 95% of the time.

there is a reason why the phrase “supporting cast” was brought into the league because of him.

"What is going on up here?"
"I never know, man."

by TheMoon on Nov 7, 2009 11:19 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jordan said it himself

He was happy when his teammates became better, and he hoped that people would stop referring to them as a ‘one-man-team’.

by Stacey_Is_King on Nov 8, 2009 8:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No, he was happy people stopped ripping him as someone

Who couldn’t make his teammates better like Larry or Magic.

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Nov 8, 2009 12:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

bingo.

"What is going on up here?"
"I never know, man."

by TheMoon on Nov 8, 2009 12:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

who cares? the man won 6 championships for the Bulls

the amount of shots taken at Jordan on this site are ridiculous. No, he wasn’t the world’s nicest guy. So what? Everyone one here would trade all the current Bulls just for the chance to have a second Michael Jordan.

by Basketball Smurf on Nov 8, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i think on this thread the point is that even if

it were true that lebron is selfish or egotistical, that he put himself above his teammates, it doesnt matter because as you said, there was this guy once who was all those things and his teams won 6 titles.

"What is going on up here?"
"I never know, man."

by TheMoon on Nov 8, 2009 2:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Was that a shot at Jordan? It was a frequent criticism of him.

I never said it was a valid one.

This thread is just about degrading LeBron because he doesn’t live up to the mythical status of MJ.

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Nov 8, 2009 2:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

oh i agree

i’m all for Lebron and all of his foibles. I could care less if he has an ego. Find me an NBA star who doesn’t.

by Basketball Smurf on Nov 8, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Derrick Rose

Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.

by stupidgenius on Nov 8, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He's in national TV commercials

Anyone good enough to do that in my eyes is a star.

Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.

by stupidgenius on Nov 8, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Crazy as it sounds

Being in commercials doesn’t mean you’re a top 25 player.

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Nov 8, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Shaq is in a commercial too,

and he kinda sucks.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Nov 8, 2009 5:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Shaq is in commercials because he used to be good

Derrick’s in commercials because he’s good.

Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.

by stupidgenius on Nov 8, 2009 5:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

at being marketable.

"What is going on up here?"
"I never know, man."

by TheMoon on Nov 8, 2009 6:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Objectively speaking,

Rose hasn’t done enough to be pushed as hard as Adidas has pushed him.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Nov 8, 2009 7:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We would have to find a way to trade Deng

for a shooting guard, cause he can’t play there.

Rose/Hinrich
Traded SG/Hinrich
Lebron/JJ
MLE/Taj
Noah/Asik
Jeff Van Gundy
Championship!

Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.

by stupidgenius on Nov 6, 2009 10:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Why not just slot Lebron in at the two?

That would make for a huge, intimidating lineup. Rose, Lebron, Deng and Noah would all be damn big for their positions.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Nov 6, 2009 10:48 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I agree

if you got Lebron, play him at the 2, and find a 4 who can shoot 3s. That would be the most physically intimidating perimeter in the NBA by far.

by Basketball Smurf on Nov 6, 2009 11:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What about LeBron and Deng as combo forwards?

I think this would be the obvious option . I think LeBron and Deng are plenty big to guard most 4’s, and we could run like crazy with Rose at the point, Noah as our 5 and LeBron and Deng as the forwards. This is what the Cavs should be doing with LeBron, and they could if they can pull off that Big Z for Stephen Jackson trade. LeBron and Jackson would be the forwards and they would run and space the floor. It’s what Orlando does, and LeBron did it himself with Carmelo when he played on team USA.

by rb22 on Nov 7, 2009 12:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That would leave us without a two guard.

If you slot Lebron in at the 2 and Deng in at 3, we could conceivably start Taj at the four. If Deng and Lebron play at 3 and 4, who starts at 2, Kirk?

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Nov 7, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure, Kirk could start.

Or maybe we could sign another 2 on the cheap without Salmons… like an Anthony Parker type signing. All we would need is a 2 who can defend and make open 3’s to space the floor. I like Kirk coming off the bench as a combo. I guess you could go with a 4 who can defend and space the floor, but that certainly isn’t Taj. And I think playing small and fast would best take advantage of the talents and athleticism of Rose, LeBron, and Noah. I think a bigger front line of Noah, Taj, and Deng just glogs the lane and gives nowhere for Rose and LeBron to drive.

I guess none of this really matters though, cause LeBron isn’t coming to Chicago…

by rb22 on Nov 7, 2009 2:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That could work

Rose/MLE
Kurt/MLE
Lu/JJ
Lebron/Taj
Noah/Asik

Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.

by stupidgenius on Nov 7, 2009 9:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Or keep Kurt as the backup

And slot in the MLE guy at the 2.

Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.

by stupidgenius on Nov 7, 2009 9:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why Not This

 PG D.Rose / Hinrich
SG LeBron / Salmons
SF Deng / Johnson
PF MLE / Gibson
C Noah / Asik

I’d love to see Marcus Camby take that MLE or…
why not go:
PG D.Rose / Hinrich
SG LeBron / Salmons
SF Deng / Johnson
PF Gibson / FA Pickup (Josh Boone, Al Harrington maybe)
C Noah / Asik

I really wouldn’t be all that upset with starting Gibson, he could become this team’s Horace Grant.

by Ceasaleo on Nov 8, 2009 6:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Because then we don't have any shooters

In our starting lineup.

Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.

by stupidgenius on Nov 8, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Horace was a top ten pick with many skills. Great shotblocker, defender and rebounder who was money with the 15 footer. Taj will never be that.

by C Smoove on Nov 8, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

JVG?

after some of the shit he said tonight I don’t think he’ll ever land a coaching job again.

by SoulEater7 on Nov 6, 2009 10:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why Van Gundy?

I think Avery Johnson would be a perfect fit, but I thought that 2 years ago too…

by Ceasaleo on Nov 8, 2009 6:19 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I actually think Deng could play SG.

If he develops that 3PT shot. Rose bringing up the ball and LeBron and Deng on the wings would be matchup nightmares for the NBA.

by brose on Nov 6, 2009 10:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see it, defensively in particular

If we thought Salmons had trouble trailing guys like Ray Allen and coming off screens, this would probably be much worse

"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro

by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 6, 2009 11:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I brought this up a long time ago...

It makes the most basketball sense for him to come here. I think a Lebron Rose tandem would work better than a Wade Rose backcourt. Lebron and Rose are both physical beasts at there own position. They are considered elite at those positions because of their strength and size. I mean its not like Lebron really has that many moves right? More so with Lebron than Rose. WIth both of them handling the rock, penetrating and dishing it would be in my opinion the best one two punch since Shaq and Kobe. Not to mention a built in supporting cast that is ready for another person like Rose to come in and lead them. I say this mostly about Noah and Deng who in my opinion are natural role players.

Ok as a city it sucks that he would be in Jordans shadow, but wait…didn’t he choose the number 23 because that was his favorite player or more likely because he wanted to be the best number 23 ever. Why not come to a big market that has the money to pay you and has a winning tradition.

Hold on lets go over this AGAIN, would there be a better sidekick for Lebron than Rose?
If you were him Rose would be ideal. Someone who shys away from the spotlight, does his work and basically only cares about winning. Lebron could get his stats and WIN. To me its that simple. Rose is THE best fit for Lebron.

And all of this is coming from someone who doesn’t care for Lebron and his douchy entltlement faces he makes. I like Wade better but this is the move that makes the most sense for Lebron. Having said that Lebron will never see it this way and in my opinion will never come here. Dude is too arrogant and stupid.

One more thing…how is this not recced more?
Its as if Chicago fans are resigned to the fact that we have a B-grade franchise because espn, tnt all tell us so. Come on people we had the best player on the planet at one time. We won with the most style and did it gracefully. Why would that be so hard for this new generation to fathom the Bulls winning again?

Also to the original poster thank you for pointing out the obvious

by Bulls Mouthpiece on Nov 7, 2009 10:01 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

ESPN insider's top rumor yesterday

was LeBron to the Bulls. I don’t have insider, but I noticed it on the front page.

by YaoPau on Nov 7, 2009 11:13 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

i may be wrong

but i think it was just some hollinger bullshit

by sin on Nov 7, 2009 11:34 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

God, those stupid rumors are so damn misleading

If there was any substance to it whatsoever, it would be on the front page.

"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro

by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 7, 2009 4:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's the dumbest thing I've read all week.

Why do you think he wears 23??? Because of MJ, his idol. You don’t think he would accept the greatest challenge in all of sports- make Chicago Lebron’s town and win more titles in Chitown than MJ did?

I’m not saying he’s coming here, but if he doesn’t it sure as hell won’t be because of his number!

by smash! on Nov 7, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

"you dont think he would accept the greatest challenge in all sports..."

i dont know about silentpete, but i sure dont…i think he is content making millions, and winning championships…kobe would want to take up jordans mantle to surpass it, but lebron is content, staying out of jordans shadow while still being considered the best ever…and another thing, if he came to chicago, the jordan vs lebron comparisons would reach a whole new level, and ultimately in some shape or form he would be tainting his “idols” image, but either not living up to it, or surpassing it…he probably wouldnt want all of that

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Nov 7, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Since you know Lebron so well, can you ask him where he's going to play next year and get back to us? :)

I’m just kidding, of course neither of us knows what’s in his little head. But you’re point that he would be content winning championships is exactly what my main point was/is. Coming to Chicago might just give him the best opportunity to win many championships (and expand his market even more in a top 3 NBA city), so the fact that #23 hangs in the rafters will not be the reason he doesn’t come to Chicago.

by smash! on Nov 7, 2009 4:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

HOW CAN YOU RUN A BULLS BLOG AGHHHHHHHHHH

Forgive him Michael Jeffery, he knows not of what he speaks!

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Nov 7, 2009 7:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Would you rather wallow in 1990's nostalgia,

or have a team that will contend for the championship ever year for a decade?

"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith

by Granny Waiters on Nov 8, 2009 1:04 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

the man is a beast. Look at the crap he’s taken to the finals. For goodness sake, Eric Snow was the starting point guard!

by diedaily23 on Nov 8, 2009 1:14 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I wish I could rec this 1000 times.

Rose—Hinrich—Lebron—Deng—Noah with intent to run is the best team in the NBA.

by Super-Structure on Nov 8, 2009 1:14 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with almost everything you've written...

not to say he’s coming here, but that Chicago cannot be counted out. I agree he cannot co-exist with Wade, and I agree that there is no better young roster in the league. NY has simply not done enough. I think he’s most likely to stay in Cleveland, but if I were him I would not be able to sign with the Cavs and take that risk that I might never win a championship there. They simply can’t put it together.

The Bulls have so many things going for them- the big city lights, the tradition, the fact that Lebron and Wade grew up worshiping the franchise… shit the colors, the logo, the stadium, the attendance/fans. And the players, most of all. I think Rose would be the perfect deferring superstar and I think Lebron/Wade/Bosh all know that. Plus we’re so damn young! And so damn likable!

I do think the one problem is that Deng would have a hard time at 2. BUT. What about Lebron at 2? It’s not the craziest idea ever, he has all the skills… even on D, I don’t think he’ll get burned or anything. Plus if we really were able to keep Hinrich as our 6th man, we’d have a lot of options. Shit, imagine Rose-Hinrich-James-Deng-Noah on the floor at the same time! Drool…

by smash! on Nov 7, 2009 12:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

THERE IS NO CHANCE IN HELL IN LEBRON COMING HERE.

NONE.

sorry for all the screaming, but y’all need to stop playin.

by C Smoove on Nov 7, 2009 2:08 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Why not?

Instead of coming in here and throwing around useless comments, give some reasoning. Why should the Bulls not be as favored as the Knicks, Nets, Cavs, etc. Great city, several good young players, excellent exposure, etc. etc. I’m a pretty reasonable person, and all things considered, I don’t see why Lebron would decide on any other team over the Bulls. Would I bet on him coming here? No, as I’m not Lebron and I don’t know what he’s looking for in a new team, but I don’t think the idea of him coming here is all that crazy. This isn’t Oklahoma City were talking about, this is Chicago.

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by dakoose on Nov 7, 2009 4:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We’re not gonna have nearly enough to even contemplate signing him. Not even if Salmons opts out, we ditch Kirk and Tyrus. Not enough money. Nuff said.

by C Smoove on Nov 8, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think he's coming here...

I just think it’s worth mentioning that we would offer him the best chance to compete for titles for the REST of his career. A core of Rose, Lebron, Deng, Noah, James would be the oldest player out of this group. That would be arguably a 60 win team next season and in conversation for the best team in the East. The Knicks can’t swing two max contract players with Curry and Jeffries still on the roster. The best they could do is match him with Joe Johnson and have complete garbage for the rest of the roster. LeBron going to Miami with Wade makes a good argument. But I really don’t think those two would want to play together, they are both alpha dog players and need to be THE superstar of their teams. I think they like the challenge of facing each other anyways. Besides Wade is turning 29 next season, and someone with his history and play style will start to be on the wrong side of 30 pretty quickly, leaving that team less of a window. And if Beasley was to ever break out would he want to play on a team where he is the unquestionably the 3rd option? I don’t see it, he was a #2 pick, he wouldn’t have his prime years as a number 3 option. The Nets simply just dont have the same level as talent as the Bulls right now. The Clippers have some nice young pieces. But how ready to win would that team be next season? Griffin still has alot to prove, obviously, and Gordon hasn’t shown me that he could be a capable #2 option on a championship team, we know how 6’3" shooting guards go.

The Bulls would offer a team ready to compete NOW, with a core of players with the average age of 23. The Celtics are going to drop from elite status in the next couple years. Ray Allen and Garnett don’t have the legs to compete with that Bulls team 2 or 3 years from now. Dwight is going to be Dwight but how long can that team compete with Vince and Rashard as the complementary pieces. The Bulls would be the favorites in the East for the foreseeable future.

by brose on Nov 7, 2009 4:50 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Or if the Knicks have room to add LeBron AND another max player

plus they’d go over the luxury tax!

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 7, 2009 6:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope Jerry isn't so much of a douche

that he thinks Lebron isn’t worth going into the tax for. Imagine the money from the jersey sales alone!

Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.

by stupidgenius on Nov 7, 2009 9:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

you forgot the one caveat

VDN would not be here. There’s no way he’s coming to a team that Mike Brown will out-coach.

by diedaily23 on Nov 8, 2009 1:16 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think I mentioned that there would have to be an upgrade at coach.

It should go without saying that a Rose, LeBron team would attract a better coach than VDN.

by brose on Nov 8, 2009 2:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Seems like Bulls fans have been battered for too long.

Why should we completely conceding our bid for LeBron? Is it that unreasonable of an idea to believe he could have some interest in Chicago? Its one of the largest sports markets in the country, with the best young, talented roster of any of the teams with the cap space to sign him. Am I missing something? Is NYC entitled to all the star athletes of any sport when they hit Free Agency? He has said time and time again that winning will be his number one priority when deciding on his basketball future. If we are to take him at his word, then we should firmly believe that we not only have an outside shot of landing him but should be considered among the front runners.

by brose on Nov 8, 2009 3:07 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed!!!

If we take him for his word, then not only winning, but growing with a team are his highest priorities in looking for a new team. With that said, it’s a lock that he wants to be a major factor in the playoffs right away. He’s not trying to leave Cleveland and be a 4-8 seed. Out of the five teams with the most projected salary cap space (Nets, Knicks, Heat, Chicago, Minnesota), the teams with established young players that already have playoff experience are the Bulls and the Heat. Like someone said earlier, I just don’t see him playing with D.Wade, which gives us the best shot right now.

The one thing that could get in the way is the dreaded double max signing. I don’t see Minnesota as a viable option from the get go, but if The Nets can go out and grab Bosh or Stoudamire and then still come after LeBron, I’m thinking that’s a done deal. The Knicks, I’m not too sure about, because even with an addition like that, their roster still looks pretty ho hum.

Look at the set up he would be coming into at Chicago, and it’s almost too good to be true for him. Yea, he may have to live in Jordan’s shadow, but MJ was his idol. He’s in a big time market. He wants to be global? Cool. MJ already showed it can be done from here. And he’s joining a team with young guys that get “it” with great work ethics, that want to win.

In all honesty, I think the Bulls should really have their pick in this free agent class. All the “big” free agents say the choice will be made on having a chance at winning titles, unless they’re staying put, there really isn’t a better option than the Bulls, if you’re really trying to get a dynasty started. Plus, I think a lot of those “max” guys got a nice good close up look at what D.Rose can do at that Olympic try out and are secretly dreaming for a chance to mold him into a champion.

by Ceasaleo on Nov 8, 2009 6:02 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Guys, what if Wade and Bosh and Boozer and Joe Johnson took paycuts and decided to play for us next year?

Maybe it won’t happen, but we would be a contender!

by RyPac13 on Nov 8, 2009 4:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Isn't LeBron on record saying he "wants to be a billionare?"

Maybe I’m remembering wrong, but I always thought he was about the money…

We have a governor who wants to increase the income tax to 4.5% and Chicagoland sales taxes are the highest in the nation. Why not choose Florida to maximize his Net Income? They have no income tax and a lower cost of living than Chicago…. even for the uber-rich. Then you have Cleavland, who will offer him the most years/money for actually playing basketball. Add to that the fact that Ohio worships him like we do MJ and he can earn a ton there. Finally, While New Jersey taxes the crap out of its citizens too, but they’re near NYC, so he can make up for lost income with greater endorsement money than what he might be able to get here. If the highest possible net income is his goal, those other options are much more realistic. So to answer your question, I believe that is why people don’t talk about him coming here more often… I’d love for that to change thought!

by 72-10 on Nov 9, 2009 9:02 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

meh, if he wants to be a billionaire hes going to have to make a lot of money

outside of basketball anyways. whether thats $800 M or $840 M made in addition to basketball is pretty negligible.

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by TheMoon on Nov 9, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My point is its easier to make a billion in other citys

than here for LaBron for various reasons. Taxes, endorsements, weather, and NBA salary cap rules all work against us in his coming here… thus less talk of LeBron in Chicago.

And $40,000,000 is not chump change… If he’s about winning “for the love of the game” then he’d consider Chicago, I’ll agree with that. I just don’t buy that he’ll give up that much scratch… I think he loves cash more than anything else… hope I’m wrong.

by 72-10 on Nov 9, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i would imagine the whole billionaire thing is more for status than having a billion to spend

on stuff. thats why i said since his goal is so much loftier than what he can do with basketball, i would have to imagine his decision will not be too influenced by the size of his NBA contract.

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"I never know, man."

by TheMoon on Nov 9, 2009 5:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting read, and he brings up some good points

but Peter Vescey is, how do I say this, less than reliable?

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by Rose Colored Goggles on Nov 9, 2009 5:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs


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