Tyrus Thomas fractures forearm, out 4-6 weeks
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 6, 2009 4:00 PM CST
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Chicago Bulls forward Tyrus Thomas suffered a fractured radius of his left forearm during a weight training session this morning at practice. X-rays confirmed the injury and he will undergo surgery tomorrow. Thomas is expected to be out four to six weeks.
Ugh, this is pretty crappy news. Tyrus was around 50% of all my Bulls enjoyment right about now (which was at about 34% overall enjoyment as it was).
I may get more into this over the weekend, but no matter your feelings on Tyrus vs. Taj (either you prefer Tyrus, or are wrong), losing Thomas exposes the lack of depth on this team, and VDN gets to do all sorts of 'coaching' to try and compensate. This isn't good.
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Don't look now...
But here comes James Johnson riding in on a white steed.
by dbrown1225 on Nov 6, 2009 4:01 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
And Vinny with some fancy new substitution patterns
(that’s like the diaper on the white steed)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 6, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Reinsdorf admitted that last year they decided Tyrus was gone. So much for me having conspiracies!
These men in the organisation are the reason the Bulls didn’t beat Boston, they would not use Tyrus at the end of games not because he was a liability, but because they didn’t want the Bulls fans getting a connection with this guy. I know this is the case! The man came on strong last year and was a MAJOR reason the Bulls started to play well and had the playoff push and this is before the Bulls had the trade when they beat teams like Detroit, Denver, and Cleveland. How else can you explain Vinny benching his starter who played well for him at the end of games for someone like Brad Miller (who I do like by the way)? How else can you explain benching your young starter who won your first playoff game on the road beating the defending champions? How else can you explain the coach benching your starter when he comes back from a injury that had him out for 2 or 3 preseason games? How else can you explain the Bulls moving Tyrus to play SF and give him role that further neutralises him. Tyrus isn’t a bum, he just needs a team and a coach who’ll show him how to play, and when it happens I will not be surprised if he does get 20 and 10. And as far as Tyrus having a broken forearm I’ll believe it when I see and hear from him myself.
by Mr Rhythm on Nov 6, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
CHECK OUT SAM SMITH'S MAILBAG http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/asksam_091106.html
You will see a perfect example of Chicago media giving Tyrus a bad rap. Every letter that mentions Tyrus Thomas, mentions him in a negative way, or discusses him being traded for someone else. Sam’s “RANDOM” letters make it appear as if every Chicago Bulls fan is fed up with Tyrus.
by Mr Rhythm on Nov 6, 2009 8:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
meanwhile
and i don’t like giving kc credit for doing something right, he actually purposefully included both an anti- and pro- tyrus letter in his mailbag.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
by Jaina on Nov 6, 2009 9:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats not necessarily objective
i find it likely most fan sentiment is against Tyrus.
The bias at work here isnt just in the selection of fan mail, but the response. If your a guy who shapes opinions with your columns, and you get a 10 to 1 opinion that Tyrus is a turd, and you dont share that opinion, you should question
1. If people listen to me and I dont have this opinion, why is it that these people do? Am i wrong or have I been misrepresenting my true opinions?
2.Maybe I should explain better and more strongly why I think this way.
by Sports2 on Nov 7, 2009 10:03 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
You mean like
when you said Derrick wasn’t really hurt either? Dude you are a riot to read.
OK I don't know shit about basketball.
by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST
by sue369 on Nov 6, 2009 8:22 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Sue if your talking about me, I have said the same thing Derrick said
Which is that he’s not in shape, he doesn’t have his timing and things like that. I haven’t seen or heard DERRICK say he’s injured we all just speculate off of what we see. When I see Derrick running full speed, cutting, stopping and going he doesn’t appear to show signs of ankle issues. Because he’s slower, or isn’t explosive as he was last year doesn’t have to mean he’s injured. Anybody who workouts and trains on a regular, then stops for a good period of time is gonna be a step behind, and Derrick said himself he never missed this much basketball before in his life and it’s effected his game.
by Mr Rhythm on Nov 7, 2009 6:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't even know what you're suggesting...
…but I do know it’s incorrect :-P
by smash! on Nov 7, 2009 9:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess you not knowing what you object to makes you really qualified for a reasonable reply too
by Mr Rhythm on Nov 7, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, he is limping
sure seems like he’s still injured,
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.
by Prevenge on Nov 7, 2009 11:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
Reinsdorf didn’t really admit that, it was something Option27 (I think?) typed up in his fanshot about Tyrus’ injury. It was joke, predicting what JR might say next summer.
"This is not Vietnam, Smokey, there are rules here." - Walter Sobchak
by Rose Colored Goggles on Nov 7, 2009 9:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
*it was a joke
"This is not Vietnam, Smokey, there are rules here." - Walter Sobchak
by Rose Colored Goggles on Nov 7, 2009 9:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's jsut with distance.
The closer it gets, the more it looks like it’s an ass.
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.
by Prevenge on Nov 6, 2009 7:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i have a queston...
I’m not trying to say you all are wrong but….why is everyone so enamored with Tyrus? I know he is probably one of the most athletic freaks in the league but he really hasn’t produced well and has really gotten a lot of opportunities. It sucks that he got injured cuz it will ruin the rotation but i was hoping for a trade anyways.
by K_yle33 on Nov 6, 2009 4:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It sucks because we still dont know if tyrus can be a starting pf in this league...
And this is after 3 full seasons of being in the league.
by Krandle on Nov 6, 2009 4:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well we knew he could be starting PF for the Bulls.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 6, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We will find out when he's somewhere else!
But first Tyrus needs to be taught and be developed by a real first class organization in how to play fundamental basketball no matter how popular he is on BaB.
Just because he’s been in the NBA 4 years is not a given he should have learned to play basketball by now. Partly Tyrus has to deal with it because he chose to come out early based on hype while being a very limited player and got pick by a team that has no strategy in player development.
I got wasted when the Bulls picked Tyrus over Roy. Roy was my first and only choice and I didn’t care about LMA, yet moreso Tyrus. I sent Paxson 4 to 5 emails weeks before hand telling him to pick Roy. Yet, I keep reading the Bulls site and the posted emails seem to be filter to draw attention and favorism to Tyrus Thomas. (“Remenber Be a GM for Day” program) I hate bringing up spilled milk. When Tyrus is gone I can forget about it! No way! Paxson will continue to do stupid things, Derrick Rose is next.. count down 3 2 1 (for those who know what this means)
Guys like: Kirk, Gordon, Deng and Rose growth is still hurt, like Thomas here in Bulls town, but they at least had fundamentals or game before they set foot in the UC.
Tyrus was like a track high jump guy and never learned from a good fundamentals coach to play defense, offensive, posting up, etc. LSU coach told tyrus to grab rebounds, block shots and get point on put backs and don’t try to do anything else. The Bulls mgmt and coaches gave him free rein and no direction. With the freedom and a truly lacking basketball IQ and big ego the inexperience Tyrus has finally hung himself and finally he can’t use his smartness and the illusion of potential to mask his lack of basketball readiness.
End result: John Paxson is a idiot continuelly AGAIN and needs to resign. Tyrus is an opportunist which I can’t fault him!
"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"
by exult463 on Nov 6, 2009 4:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Shocking
Man, if we’ve gotten to the point where an NBA GM won’t take draft advice for exult463, then this isn’t the world I want to grow up in.
You know what, I don’t think that Paxson should be General Manager anymore.
….wait, what’s that you say?
by lilzaky on Nov 6, 2009 6:04 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
exult yes you have hit the nail, TT has no fundamentals period if he really wants to get better he needs to down to Houton and have Hakeem work with him
http://dimemag.com/2009/09/hakeem-olajuwon-works-out-kobe-bryant-hasheem-thabeet/
Please don't tell me what to do or think, what I might say is a personal opinion.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 6, 2009 7:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
We need our players to be more like Hasheem Thabeet.
That would be fucking awesome.
by lilzaky on Nov 6, 2009 11:50 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
it's good to have your attention...
seeing as you are “fucking” passionate of protecting John Paxson …
"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"
by exult463 on Nov 9, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so.cal.native1952 dead on accurate
This exact link brings back things I discussed on this site two years ago in regards to Tyrus. Many disagreed and laughed in regards to the “Dream” Hakeem and proceeded to thinking guys like sidney green, pete myers and other average players are actually better big men coaches because they were average players?
This thought process is insane?
These player like the “Dream” are waiting and dying for coaches and back offices to reach out to them to consultation. Retired marksmen shooters like “eddie johnson”, chuck persons etc are all ready and willing. Small town thinking Paxson and his good ole boy small network of friends can’t comprehend or even imagining contacting theses guys because its outside his little box of thinking…
I wonder do those who think in this fashion, “average mentorship produces greatness”, believe the same is true for their own personal careers. Imagine a skid-row bum who saw one year of jr college teaching you how to be successful in international marketing?
"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"
by exult463 on Nov 9, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He has produced. People who argue otherwise just don't watch the games closely. Seriously.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Nov 6, 2009 4:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
With the sample size we've had so far
That’s not saying that much. I remain unconvinced that he’s a starting PF in this league. We’re 3 years into this project now.
by jake1823 on Nov 6, 2009 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
and I really like watching tyrus but i guess my problem is having him and noah on the court at the same time. to be honest; i don’t like taj and noah either cause they are both defensive minded. ya know?
by K_yle33 on Nov 6, 2009 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
having defensive minded guys is important. it'd just be nice if we had a guy that was dominant
on both sides of the ball. Noah is effective on offense, but he’s limited. It’d have been nice if Tyrus had been able to totally put it all together this year, but he’s suffered some pretty bad setbacks and now I don’t see any way he gets brought back. He simply won’t have enough time when he gets back to really blow up and show his worth to the team.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Nov 6, 2009 4:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
He’s produced quite well….which is why you see those fans in Utah with the trade for me shirts or whatever.
His PER is good, his blocks are ridiculous. He just oddly doesn’t get the minutes….
Thurston Moore is a rock god
by majoyenrac on Nov 6, 2009 5:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
cause it's not like this team is brimming with talent.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 6, 2009 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so that's why we're so pumped about Tyrus?
Woohoo! Mediocrity!
by jake1823 on Nov 6, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well, not exactly
Tyrus had a chance to rise above mediocre. Not many do on this team.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 6, 2009 4:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree with that
We have one guy that could be a superstar very easily and that is one more than a lot of teams.
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 6, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well there IS some range between mediocre and superstar
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 6, 2009 4:54 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Now I'm just confused
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 6, 2009 6:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of teams
have people that are better than mediocre but aren’t superstars.
They’re, let’s say helpful.
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.
by Prevenge on Nov 6, 2009 7:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, and so do we. I still don't get the point.
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 6, 2009 7:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
YFBB's point is that we have a lot of players
who are mediocre and don’t have much of a chance to rise above that.
Well … if I’m reading it right, anyways.
[Examples: Taj Gibson, I guess? Uhh … Kirk Hinrich? … Some other people?]
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.
by Prevenge on Nov 7, 2009 2:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, I get that part
but I think that’s a pretty poor outlook on a team that actually has a good amount of young, talented players relative to the rest of the league. Including one player that has superstar potential. So I guess I just don’t really buy into the idea that just because Tyrus is out everything is doom and gloom.
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 7, 2009 3:29 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Gordon is gone.
And I’m not even a gordonite
"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"
by exult463 on Nov 6, 2009 5:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that
We do have Rose….and some good players borderline star quality….but to me Rose and Tyrus were the guys who could be special on an otherwise decent set of role and super role players…
They were the only two who might become #1’s or #2’s elsewhere—though I don’t know Deng of late….
Thurston Moore is a rock god
by majoyenrac on Nov 6, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dead on accurate!
"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"
by exult463 on Nov 6, 2009 5:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
why do you have a bulls blog?
all you do is whine about the team. I have been reading this site for about a year and have heard so little positivity. the bulls don’t have a top five player and haven’t since…oh 1997. that doesn’t mean you have to whine constantly. you can still be a fan and root for solid effort and hard fought games. u r wrong about taj too. he will be in the league after tyrus is either gone or an energy guy off the bench
it is so frustrating that the best place to chat about the bulls is dominated by a whiny drama queen moderator with a man crush on an average SG......6 recs
by BigforkBullsFan on Nov 6, 2009 6:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like you should start your own blog.
I can’t believe you put yourself through a year of this. You could just go…somewhere else.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
by cranscape on Nov 6, 2009 7:06 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Or not. let's point out some unbalanced, out of context criticism.
SBNATION BLOG, It’s worth participating.
NegaFans say Tyrus wasn’t sick. Tyurs wasn’t hurt. VDN wants to run him out of town.
He was sick, and he broke a bone. Hello?
And there is no economic incentive to not develop and keep Tyrus. The point is to not overpay for a semi-motivated player still not performing to his potential.
Also do not lose games to give a 4th year player his minutes. It’s an 82 game season and if not starting will break his fragile mind, then WTF is he really worth?
by Noe_Valley on Nov 6, 2009 9:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
Get off the Tyrus stuff. He can do what he wants with his blog. We know you hate Tyrus and love Taj. We get the point.
If we aren't careful, the leanness we now feel will be the starvation of those we serve.
by Chi 'Till I Die on Nov 6, 2009 11:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's worth as much as he's worth,
which here is starting PF money.
Don’t worry, though: I’m sure we’ll get Boozer next year or something, and he’ll get injured midway through the season. You’ll be thrilled.
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.
by Prevenge on Nov 7, 2009 2:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
sure there is economic incentive
Taj will be dirt cheap the next few years.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 7, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
go ahead and be positive!
you could’ve just said that last sentence about Taj. I could’ve made fun of it, but still.
And I don’t want solid effort and hard fought games. winnnnnnnzzzzzz
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 7, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
damn
"I think it’s safe to say Noah and Rose are the future."
by Belize on Nov 6, 2009 4:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Too bad for the Bulls and TT
… who’s the person who every game predicts a JJ breakout game? Perhaps tomorrow night will finally be the night, if JJ can play well. But you never know, VDN might “play small” with Luol at the 4 when Gibson is out.
by kozzer on Nov 6, 2009 4:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I actually like
a Rose, Hinrich, Salmons, Deng, Noah combination on the floor
by K_yle33 on Nov 6, 2009 4:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Are we trying to break deng's legs this season?
Running him 40 mins a night now he has to guard 4’s?
by Krandle on Nov 6, 2009 4:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What other choice do they have
if Johnson truly isn’t ready? (which I don’t think – I’d like to see him play some before any judgments are made)
by kozzer on Nov 6, 2009 4:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's hope Deng's microfracture is 100% healed
by kozzer on Nov 6, 2009 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he never had a microfracture. he had a stress fracture. microfracture is a type of surgery.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Nov 6, 2009 4:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The way he's playing.......
he’s fine.
OK I don't know shit about basketball.
by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST
by sue369 on Nov 6, 2009 4:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
um
who’s the person who every game predicts a JJ breakout game?
Thats me.
by SoulEater7 on Nov 6, 2009 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this is only bad in that it decreases his trade value in the short term
by Andronicus on Nov 6, 2009 4:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Regardless of what you thought of him, he was a net positive on the team and losing him hurts.
Taj has been bettern than expected so far, but counting on him for 30 minutes a game is pretty risky… he is going to get into foul trouble.
by silentpete on Nov 6, 2009 4:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
agreed. just means we'll win 43 games instead of 45...
by Andronicus on Nov 6, 2009 4:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
or it means we win 39 instead of 41
and miss the playoffs.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 6, 2009 4:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I feel so bad for Tyrus.
He probably is wishing he still had the instead of this.
I cheer for all the players on this team so I hope Taj can keep playing like he has been.
OK I don't know shit about basketball.
by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST
by sue369 on Nov 6, 2009 4:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
"still had the flu"
OK I don't know shit about basketball.
by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST
by sue369 on Nov 6, 2009 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Shit.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Nov 6, 2009 4:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I hope we can see some of JJ in the next 4 ish weeks.
See if he has any ability to play in the nba or not. Basically the only good that will come of this.
by Krandle on Nov 6, 2009 4:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
So now who's our 4th big man?
Is Vinny going to put Johnson at the 4? Gray is hurt, so I guess he doesn’t have much choice, unless Jerome James has finally gotten below the 350 pound mark.
by Big D on Nov 6, 2009 4:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing they're going to play Gibson/Deng/Noah/Johnson at the 4
And the minutes might be distributed in that order
by kozzer on Nov 6, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably more Miller at C and Noah at PF
by silentpete on Nov 6, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably alot more trouble for Vinny
My fear is Pargo gets more burn in the gimmicky three guard line-up…
Why isn't your friendly Bulls Blogger friendly?
by Dionysus2.0 on Nov 7, 2009 8:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Have we ever seen such a strange string of events with one player?
I feel for Tyrus.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
by dakoose on Nov 6, 2009 4:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Eddy Curry
That a was a strange string of events.
Why isn't your friendly Bulls Blogger friendly?
by Dionysus2.0 on Nov 7, 2009 8:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And it continues in NY
Eddy Curry got in shape for the summer league and showed up to play in a game but didn’t. He forgot his shoes.
by Noe_Valley on Nov 7, 2009 9:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Until he comes back and plays well
his only value is his expiring contract. And considering he’s still on his rookie contract, that value is pretty low.
by kozzer on Nov 6, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure - they just have to find a team who wants to trade for a guy with a broken arm.
In honor of the dearly departed, I declare July PB&J month - everyone raise a sandwich to the memory of Ben!
by wjb1492 on Nov 6, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Package him with Kurt and off to Minnesota for Kevin Love and a few crappy contracts :)
But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart
by Norsktroll on Nov 6, 2009 4:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Minnesota made clear they wanted nothing to do with Kurt
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Nov 6, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This is terrible news!
I really hope VDN starts to play JJ now. I’m still trying to figure out why this kid hasnt really played at all this year. I think he could really help us. Hopefuly we’ll find out sooner rather than later.
by Bulls4Ever on Nov 6, 2009 4:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It is terrible - both for Ty, and for our team of 13 players but only 10 capable of playing
And not all of them fully healthy at that.
As far as JJ, I imagine he will get some minutes now. Vinny has said he’s been looking for minutes to get him in, and some just opened up.
In honor of the dearly departed, I declare July PB&J month - everyone raise a sandwich to the memory of Ben!
by wjb1492 on Nov 6, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How do you fracture your forearm
“doing some type of pull-up or whatever?”
by penguin1 on Nov 6, 2009 4:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It happens to sports players now and then.
At least I remember reading about it in the news in the past.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
by cranscape on Nov 6, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
P90X. Muscle confusion, you know.
by paxson43 on Nov 6, 2009 6:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Also, this means Tyrus will be out for the Circus Trip. Just great.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Nov 6, 2009 4:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That's not bad actually
I mean, they were supposed to lose a lot of these games anyways, right?
by Option27 on Nov 6, 2009 4:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure he would have contributed in the wins.
Instead of 3-6, they’re 2-7?
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
by tyger1147 on Nov 6, 2009 5:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Taj isn't half the athlete Tyrus is...
…but he’s a WAY smarter player. I think Taj Gibson is pretty average, but Tyrus really hurts team defense at times.
by dbrown1225 on Nov 6, 2009 4:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Do the other times count for anything?
I feel like so many people focus on little annoying parts of Tyrus’ game and ignore the big picture. (not necessarily you dbrown)
by penguin1 on Nov 6, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
More explicitly:
Do Tyrus’ positive contributions outweigh his occasional poor rotations?
by penguin1 on Nov 6, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
For example
Salmons – slips into chucker mode, refuses to spot up shoot
Rose – turns passive
Kirk – dribbles away the shot clock or shoots way early into the shot clock, (until recently) can’t shoot inside
Deng – Depends on the night
Noah – Something must be wrong with him since he hardly breaks 20 minutes a game
Tyrus – Misses some rotations, goes for the block perhaps too much
Miller – can’t run well with the three guard lineup, frustration fouls
JJ – only breakout opportunities are pimples while on the bench
Taj – butter fingers, fouls
Hunter – can’t do anything
Jerome James – fat and old
Gray – too fat
Pargo – shoots well every eight games or so, keeps shooting anyway
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by cranscape on Nov 6, 2009 4:58 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Everyone has a downside to their game.
Or else everyone would be MJ. Tyrus’ typical faults are no more than anyone elses bad habits.
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by cranscape on Nov 6, 2009 4:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
No, not really
Tyrus liabilities are not physical limitations.
Guys like Paxson played in the NBA becuase they had the mental part of the game mastered and were consistent in what they did on the court.
The washouts are guys with talent and no focus.
by Noe_Valley on Nov 6, 2009 9:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Congratulations,
you succeeded in NOT responding to anything cranscape said. Seriously, I’m impressed.
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by Chi 'Till I Die on Nov 6, 2009 11:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No, not really
Paxon liabilities are not mental limitations.
Guys like Tyrus play in the NBA because they have the physical part of the game mastered and show flashes of brilliance.
The washouts are guys with an insufficient combination of physical and mental abilities.
It goes both ways.
by penguin1 on Nov 6, 2009 11:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Testing
Yes, a player has to “pass” the combine test. Maybe I should have said BUST and not washout.
Physical skills are easier to measure. Basketball ability less easy to measure and mental focus and work ethic the most difficult when you evaluate young adults in the draft.
By analogy, google hiring uses a test to rank candidates. The lowest scoring employees perform the best. Is the test broken? No. Lowest scoring candidates only get hired if someone advocates for them and makes the individual case.
http://www.mv-voice.com/square/index.php?i=3&d=&t=1680
NBA has a similar problem with the combine test, it’s necessary to filter out J Jordan and highlight JR Smith.
JR Smith gets drafted for his athleticism and nearly washed out until he turned it around in Denver.
You can verify a player has required physical skills but validating they’re the right player happens only if they’re selected and put on the floor. Those with high test scores get picked and therefore washout/bust due to the mental part of the game.
by Noe_Valley on Nov 7, 2009 10:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They don't have to pass any test
They’re tested and that informs teams about whether they want to take a risk on a player who didn’t test well.
by Sports2 on Nov 7, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Josh Smith is a ... waaaaait ...
It’s a combination of both. Otherwise, Jared Jordan would be in the NBA.
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by Prevenge on Nov 7, 2009 3:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the heads-up, at least Taj can now help me in a deep fantasy league
But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart
by Norsktroll on Nov 6, 2009 4:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Way to be empathetic there, Norsk
Remind me to head over and comment on how Miller’s fitting in for you guys.
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by wjb1492 on Nov 6, 2009 4:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I’m trying to see the positive here. And it looked like VDN was already starting to fall in love with Taj anyway.
But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart
by Norsktroll on Nov 6, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe he was on VDN's fantasy team too.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 6, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Looks like Miller will now take the starting spot btw
But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart
by Norsktroll on Nov 6, 2009 4:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So is that a
“better late than never” thing, or a “further screw up team chemistry” thing?
Or maybe it’s a “hell, we’d better get his trade value up” thing. ;)
In honor of the dearly departed, I declare July PB&J month - everyone raise a sandwich to the memory of Ben!
by wjb1492 on Nov 6, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN is reporting that Gibson will continue starting
by kozzer on Nov 6, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And Taj will foul out becuase that's what rookie PF do when they play major minutes.
The problem for VDN is who’s going to play PF minutes when Taj gets 2 quick fouls in the Q1?
by Noe_Valley on Nov 6, 2009 9:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
James Johnson!!!
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by Prevenge on Nov 7, 2009 3:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We can only hope.
Between the two, the Bulls will set some most-foul-per-position record.
by Noe_Valley on Nov 7, 2009 10:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This really sucks
but I don’t think it should be that difficult for Vinny. Should stick with a tight 3 man rotation of Noah, Miller, and Taj in the front court with Deng swinging down when they go small from time to time. Honestly, I’d rather see them go small w/ Deng at the 4 than Taj out there in the fourth quarter.
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by snley on Nov 6, 2009 4:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Can we get through 6 weeks playing only 8 guys?
Considering that Miller is old and Deng is fragile . . .
by Big D on Nov 6, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It appeared the plan was to get through the season with only 8 guys
It was only the surprise that Taj doesn’t completely suck that made it appear the Bulls had anything close to a deep rotation. though, when Pargo’s one of those eight, it’s not pretty.
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by snley on Nov 6, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well maybe it shouldn't be difficult
but I have a feeling it will be.
When’s Aaron Gray coming back?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 6, 2009 4:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I want to see Jerome James out there
Not because I think he can play, I’m just curious to see how long he can run up and down the court before passing out.
by Big D on Nov 6, 2009 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Don't even joke about that.
Can you imagine what watching Aaron Gray “play himself into shape” will look like?
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by MPG on Nov 6, 2009 4:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BAHAHAHAHA
Oh man.
Noah could only play for 5 minutes at a time …
over-under on Aaron Gray? 1 minute? Maybe?
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by Prevenge on Nov 6, 2009 7:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess we can pad up his leg
and let him be goalie around the basket. Won’t have to run much then.
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by cranscape on Nov 6, 2009 5:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's time for JJ to see some minutes
Vinny needs to just tell him to camp out at the three point line, perhaps he can give us a little perimeter shooting that we’ve been missing. He’ll probably struggle defensively at the four, but he has potential from the jump on the offensive end as a mismatch
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by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 6, 2009 4:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
but he wasn't even that great of a shooter in college.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 6, 2009 4:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, but just bacause a guy doesn't shoot that well in college doesn't mean
he won’t be good in the pros and vice versa. This is probably the first time in his basketball life that he’s been working on his shot every single day. Plus, to me it looks like he has a pretty good stroke and a lot of confidence, so the tools are there.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 6, 2009 5:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well you were referencing an immediate improvement to your perimeter shooting.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 6, 2009 6:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No I wasn't, I'm a terrible perimeter shooter;)
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by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 6, 2009 6:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I say give him some slack at the begining
Even though he was a 16th pick I dont blame the Bulls for drafting him without the expectation of having him play 15mins a game til next year. If the Bulls scouts really knew Taj would be ready to contribute(mediocrly but still contribute) then I dont blame them for taking JJ with the idea of letting him soak in NBA from bench for a year.
Now as a sorta young player (hes 22) but a college jr. this year… I dont expect him to be able to know where to be on the court. I do agree with Jbxj that on offense all he needs to do is sit outside the 3 but I do expect him to run run run on fast breaks. On defense- I expect nothing cause he probably doesnt know where to be. He was the only player in the Bulls semi-rotation that I considered to have less basketball IQ than Tyrus.
So if he looks really lost rotating against the Nuggets or Lakers within the next month I say let it go. 1 Draft pick who isnt NBA ready is forgivable – if Taj was also a bust than I say Bulls fan could rip Gar, but luckly Taj knows where to be.
by Jscho316 on Nov 6, 2009 4:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that's gotta be a given at this point
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by DLRoth on Nov 6, 2009 5:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Tyrus Man-Crush Continues
Either you prefer the guy that DIDN’T break his arm in practice (practice?) or are wrong.
This, like hating on a rookie because he is threatening your man-crush, is unfortunate.
by dasspunk on Nov 6, 2009 4:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
unfortunate, but correct.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 6, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong
Taj will be better than your man-crush for the next 4-6 weeks.
by dasspunk on Nov 6, 2009 5:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
huh?
ohhhhh, you thought I meant Tyrus with a broken arm vs. Taj.
Then yes, clearly Taj if that’s the choice. And here I thought you were a simpleton.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 6, 2009 5:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And to make things clear
Having a guy out for 4 to 6 weeks doesn’t decrease his trade value.
Either way, people know what they’re risking with or without the fractured forearm.
by Option27 on Nov 6, 2009 5:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
well his value is likely crud
and 4-6 weeks of playing could’ve increased the value.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 6, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who said his value is crud?
Wasn’t it just last year where his name was being linked to Amare rumors? And just this summer, Boozer?
Let’s be honest, in the 4 to 6 weeks he would play, it likely wouldn’t have changed many minds. VDN probably wouldn’t have even given him the minutes to show for it.
Even after the rocky start, his stats were bound to resemble last years stats the way this season looks to be unfolding.
It’s a sad sad story but I still think you can get quality for Tyrus
by Option27 on Nov 6, 2009 5:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think if the Bulls felt they were getting enough in return
they would’ve done it already.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 6, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't say "enough"
I just said quality.
You can still get a quality player for a person with his kind of potential
by Option27 on Nov 6, 2009 5:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree that you can get a quality player for TT right now.
You can get Stephen Jackson for a Tyrus and a ham sandwich. You could get Brandon Wright, who dislocated his shoulder for Tyrus with a broken Forearm. And I’d make that trade to improve both teams.
Tyrus had to produce to avoid the bust label but he will be unable to prove much until post All-Star when he gets his legs and rhythm back.
by Noe_Valley on Nov 6, 2009 9:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's in the top 25 under 25.
Someone’s noticed him.
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by cranscape on Nov 6, 2009 7:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
RUMOR: TT was actually injured arm wrestling Taj for the starting spot. Pull-up story is a cover up
Captain Hunter was officiating.
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by DLRoth on Nov 6, 2009 5:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
VINNY DEL NEGRO....WTF DID YOU DO.....MAKE HIM CURL 400LBS YOU SLICK MUTHA F...........
by Mr Rhythm on Nov 6, 2009 5:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Um he was doing
pull-ups. I doubt Vinny was even in the room when it happened. Drama much?
OK I don't know shit about basketball.
by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST
by sue369 on Nov 6, 2009 6:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it was only vinny
who said he thought tyrus was doing pullups. how do you break your arm doing pullups?
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
by Jaina on Nov 6, 2009 6:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They just reprted on
CTL that that’s how he broke it. Maybe they are wrong.
OK I don't know shit about basketball.
by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST
by sue369 on Nov 6, 2009 6:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ack "reported"
OK I don't know shit about basketball.
by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST
by sue369 on Nov 6, 2009 6:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ah ok
i mean i had only read the quote from vinny saying that’s what he thought happened, or something. cause i’m not gonna get local bulls news out here.
i still wonder how the fuck that happened, though.
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by Jaina on Nov 6, 2009 6:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They talked
to Pargo on Sports Nite and he said there were a few guys in the weight room and Tyrus said his arm hurt but went on about his business. Then he said it was still hurting so they checked it out and sent him for x-rays.
I have no idea how that happens doing pullups. Very strange.
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by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST
by sue369 on Nov 6, 2009 6:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sucks hard, but this shouldn't change our rotation much from what it's been
Obviously more Taj, but Tyrus has only played 84 minutes this year, or 16.8 per game. Given that Noah/Miller are combining for 53 when they could give 65, we can replace most of that chunk with better players on the floor.
And if those minutes go mostly to Taj/JJ instead, that has its own benefit. Maybe we’d lose an extra two games over the next six weeks, but we can evaluate guys who’ll be with us for the next four years.
by YaoPau on Nov 6, 2009 5:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You and your hopeless optimism of late. What gives, man?
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Nov 6, 2009 5:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well I wouldn't say that's optimistic
It’s just that our team has no shot at a title, so I can care less about our record. I’d rather we just play smart and develop our guys that’ll be here for awhile.
by YaoPau on Nov 6, 2009 6:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
UGH
I just looked at fantasy before I left and saw someone dropped him, and I thought maybe because he and the Bulls seem to be fighting….
But I thought he’d be traded so was just about to pick him up when I read that he’s out.
THIS IS HORRIBLE. Like you said Tyrus is about 20% of my Bulls enjoyment. Rose is about 40%, Deng is shockingly gone to 15%, Hinrich’s about 10%, Noah’s the rest…
When’s Aaron coming back? Not that I want him back, but I want to see the precise moment when we flounder…..as Vinny makes him the backup C beside starting Miller, and Noah moves to the 4 spot….ugh….
This all seems so fishy….
Tyrus doesn’t get his contract.
Bulls oddly sit Tyrus against an opponent where Tyrus can do quite well against (Heat).
Tyrus fumes with the Lindsey incident.
Tyrus gets “sick”, yet somehow is able to go to the game and play 10 mins or whatever the next day.
Then he breaks his arm….
Hmm…consipiracy again.
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by majoyenrac on Nov 6, 2009 5:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yes, it's all a conspiracy
Clearly Tyrus was pissed about losing minutes and decided to mutilate himself in protest. Hopefully he doesn’t light himself on fire when Taj stays in the starting lineup the rest of the season.
by Big D on Nov 6, 2009 5:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it's Munchausen Syndrome by PROXY.
Coach VDN hurts Tyrus to gain attention.
by Noe_Valley on Nov 6, 2009 10:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he's having
surgery tomorrow just because. I don’t get this conspiracy stuff at all.
OK I don't know shit about basketball.
by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST
by sue369 on Nov 6, 2009 6:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Now see, if they had just listened to Tyger...
…and re-signed Gordon and traded Salmons in the off-season for a PJ Brown, Kurt Thomas, who-the-fuck-ever type, we’d aaaaallll be just fine. But nooooo, I get no input on this team whatsoever. Jerks.
I’m kidding, of course.
Kinda.
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by tyger1147 on Nov 6, 2009 5:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I told you
I dropped off your application at the Berto Center. What happened next was out of my hands.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 6, 2009 5:51 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
An unfortunate break for the Teenage Bulls
Sigh.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Nov 6, 2009 6:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Calves?
But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart
by Norsktroll on Nov 7, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
50%...
of what you like about this team is Tyrus Thomas? The guy who wildly drives to the hoop with little or no control of the ball? 50%….
He won’t even be on the team in a year.
Da Bulls, Da Hawks
by wrhc59 on Nov 6, 2009 7:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well, you have to understand that yfbb counts Kirk and a couple of others as negatives,
so 50% doesn’t really mean half.
In honor of the dearly departed, I declare July PB&J month - everyone raise a sandwich to the memory of Ben!
by wjb1492 on Nov 6, 2009 7:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
awesome.
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by MPG on Nov 7, 2009 7:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I frakkin love this blog.
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by MPG on Nov 7, 2009 7:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This team is gonna have it's work cut out for them
Taj I think will average about 10 a game, he may get worked over defensively but he’ll add some scoring. All in all I think this is big. The guys all can rebound and stil do well but they have to play some really, dynomite basketball! I hope TT gets better quick, and Rose is gotta pick up and really be the leader for the guys cause they’re gonna really need him!
by Mr Rhythm on Nov 6, 2009 7:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He won't go to the ft line since he is a rookie (starting or not).
And he’ll get a lot of fouls called against him. He’ll have to play very good to outplay that handicap.
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by cranscape on Nov 6, 2009 7:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A case of V.D.N. is so strong that it can break your arm! Somebody call the CDC...
before we all turn into one-armed zombies.
by KentuckyBullsFan on Nov 6, 2009 7:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
With Tyrus or no Tyrus, the most important thing is to keep showcasing the team to attract Wade or Bosh
This definitely sucks, because Tyrus is one of the players that I like most and that made me watch the Bulls again after MJ departure. It’s a huge loss to the team, but we need to get used to this. He won’t be in Chicago next season anyway. In fact, these events (being benched, not resigning and the Hunter problem) only show that Bulls already gave up on him. The most important thing now it’s win as many games as possible and reach the playoffs to convince Wade or Bosh that, playing alongside with Rose, Deng and Noah, they can win a ring again by 2011.
Jannero Pargo = Larry Hughes 2.0
by bull83 on Nov 6, 2009 7:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
2 things off topic real fast
1) I’m watching this Cavs/Knicks game and they just showed that LeBron’s favorite team is the Bulls
2) Ben Gordon is 1 for 10 at the half
by Option27 on Nov 6, 2009 7:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Bulls are LeBron's favorite team in each way?
Like he likes the Bulls? Or the Bulls are the team he likes to face, because he always manage to score a lot of points?
Jannero Pargo = Larry Hughes 2.0
by bull83 on Nov 6, 2009 7:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
*in what way?
Jannero Pargo = Larry Hughes 2.0
by bull83 on Nov 6, 2009 7:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They just showed his favorite team in each sport
In basketball, he’s a Bulls fan
Oh, and he’s dominating the Knicks all by himself right now
by Option27 on Nov 6, 2009 7:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Bulls were his favorite team as a kid
The Yankees were his favorite baseball team, and the Cowboys were his favorite football team. So basically, all the teams that won titles in the 90’s. I hate those kinds of fans.
by Big D on Nov 6, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Right before I read your comment
I found myself thinking, “I bet he’s a Yankees fan too.”
Those kinds of fans are the worst.
by penguin1 on Nov 6, 2009 7:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Drives me crazy how much Mark Jackson is on Bron's jock
He’s a great player but something of a poor sport IMHO and I don’t understand why he deserves so much praise for his off-court comportment.
He’s killing the Knicks right now tho.
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by DLRoth on Nov 6, 2009 7:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like they need some Luol Deng on him
by Option27 on Nov 6, 2009 7:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this is why
i’m so fucking glad our game was not on ESPN.
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by Jaina on Nov 6, 2009 7:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
jackson is terrible in everything
all his broadcasts contain.. “if im lebron i say im gonna score”..“if im kobe i say this is my house”..“if im steve nash, i say i need to get my guys involved like mark jackson did as one of the best assists guys”
and so on
I'm cuckoo for Kukoc!!!
by Yibs on Nov 6, 2009 9:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Think we pissed the Cavs off
I noticed Lebron is not doing his “save self for end of game heroics” tonight
In honor of the dearly departed, I declare July PB&J month - everyone raise a sandwich to the memory of Ben!
by wjb1492 on Nov 6, 2009 7:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
19 points in the first on 8 for 9 shooting
Damn
by Option27 on Nov 6, 2009 7:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cleveland has 16 made baskets
and Lebron has 8 of the makes (2 from 3) and 5 assists.
In honor of the dearly departed, I declare July PB&J month - everyone raise a sandwich to the memory of Ben!
by wjb1492 on Nov 6, 2009 7:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Gordon ... not a great game today.
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by Prevenge on Nov 7, 2009 3:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Assists leader with 5 though
Man, Stuckey’s a black hole.
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by Prevenge on Nov 7, 2009 3:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He stucks.
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by MPG on Nov 7, 2009 7:53 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
LOL
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by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 7, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's so horribly awesome.
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by Prevenge on Nov 7, 2009 11:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i heard about this as i went to work
no details though… this does indeed suck.. seriously gotta be one of the worst weeks someone’s gone through in awhile.. getting benched…argue with vinny/hunter…flu with cover up theories… now this
I'm cuckoo for Kukoc!!!
by Yibs on Nov 6, 2009 9:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Dang! now we cant include him in any trades.
Homecoming
by illwill on Nov 6, 2009 11:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Fuck future trades, this hurts the team right now.
Defense and rebounding immediately take a hit, and the team is now relying on a 26th pick to produce for over a month. I’m worried Vinny will run Brad Miller ragged, who can be a downright abomination when he plays too many minutes.
Ugh, Tyrus. I guess you were never meant to be a Bull.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Nov 7, 2009 12:01 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The good news is it's only a month or so..
The bad news is VDN will still be the coach.
by SoulEater7 on Nov 7, 2009 12:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
He'll have to "work his way" back into the rotation
when he comes back. The Bulls don’t just give starters back their position after an injury like other teams do. Tyrus will have to win a few checker games against Gray and work his way up through the lineup from there.
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by cranscape on Nov 7, 2009 1:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Matt. Is this like saying 90% of baseball is 70% mental?
by hlac on Nov 7, 2009 12:59 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
No wonder he is crabby.
If my job made me do all of that I’d be too.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
by cranscape on Nov 7, 2009 1:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh, I see the real conspiracy
BG took the promotional gag shots last year, and now he’s gone.
This year it’s Tyrus, and he’s on his way out!
by Sports2 on Nov 7, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tyrus's injury has thrown Vinny into a quandry
After hearing the news, VDN initially felt a rush of euphoria followed by a profound sense of serenity, peace and tranquility. What made it even more satisfying was his realization that the Gods had removed the obstructionist whom he perceived has been the main thorn in his side whose antics have cast a shadow of doubt on recognizing his coaching genius.
What more could my critics expect? Don’t I tell my players during every timeout “Show energy, play defense, rebound, put the ball in the hole and run, run, run.” Vinny finally breathed a sigh of relief for he no longer would have to carry the burden of having to concoct new excuses every night to justify benching Tyrus as punishment for not kissing his ring.
Later in the day, after the initial tingle of excitement had dissipated, Vinny broke out into a cold sweat. It dawned on him with Thomas out of the way who was he going to point the finger at when the breakdowns still occurred, the rotations were as slow as ever, and jump shots were still clanging off the rim at an alarming rate? What if it turns out that Taj isn’t the 2nd coming of Scottie Pippen? What if they find out maybe I really am in over my head?
It is said ……be careful what you wish for because you may get it and it might turn out to be your worse nightmare. Oh my God, forgive me. Come back Tyrus, come back. I think I really do need you.
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard
by Tyrusmancrush on Nov 7, 2009 2:26 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm waiting for Vinny to start posting on Blog-A-Bull as "Tyrusarmcrush"
by KentuckyBullsFan on Nov 7, 2009 5:54 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
lol
We should start seeing some glowing Gibson gushing soon under that name because it’s evident that in a short space of time, Vinny has already become a hopeless, slobbering Tajaholic.
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard
by Tyrusmancrush on Nov 7, 2009 6:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tyrus's fracture has put me in a funk. I just hope Cutler doesn't go down.
As some may have surmised, I as a self admitted Tyrus groupie. am in mourning. You could say that Tyrus’s man is crushed.
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard
by Tyrusmancrush on Nov 7, 2009 3:17 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's obviously the organization's fault...
…he broke his arm. He didn’t get the correct forearm weight lifting coaching. This sucks. Eventually, he’ll go somewhere and get that proper coaching and have really strong forearms, just like we always knew he could…
Then you’ll see!
; >
by RichKarp on Nov 7, 2009 7:51 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Tyrus is over-rated by this group
I have been on this blog for several years,and like many of you, was a huge Ty fan. Loved the high flying dunks and blocks, even if they were less frequent than we would have liked. I do believe that he should have been given more of a fair shake, and maybe more opportunities to play through mistakes, especially by Skiles.
But the fact is that due to a combination of his and the organizations mistakes, 3 years into this he has been a bust relative to his high draft position. He still seems to lack basic basketball instincts, can’t think on his feet, and still takes too many bad jump shots – this may be due to the fact that he started playing the game much later than his peers, I don’t know. He is going to be at best a decent journeyman in this league, and I am glad that the organization is not making a big bet on him, just b’cos he can make a highlight reel dunk once in a while. He is not a starting PF on a good team, and given that we have high quality players at other positions in Noah, Rose and Deng, i’d rather see the organization upgrade at that position if possible.
by bullsfaninbigapple on Nov 7, 2009 9:38 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I Agree.
It’s a decent take on the Tyrus the Bull.
These injuries will motivate Tyrus to sign rather than become a FA like Ben. I’m thinking he’ll resign with Chicago and probably will be traded.
by Noe_Valley on Nov 7, 2009 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
Is he overrated by some? Yes. He is a productive player tho. Most of the players in his draft class sucked outside of a few….Adam Morrison?
I think he is showing improvement and can be a good starter. Will never be an All-star but he can be a contributor on a good team. If he was developed correctly, he could have been the next Marion/Kirilenko(when he was good) type of hybrid forward.
In the right team with the right coach, he could be better than a journeyman. Even you have to admit, players don’t develop skills with the Bulls, we suck at development.
by C Smoove on Nov 7, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you that seem to be poor at player development...
…but I disagree that he could be a Marion/Kirilenko type player, he is just not at that level in terms of shooting ability or on-court instincts. Not even close.
by bullsfaninbigapple on Nov 7, 2009 5:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
T-T is a guy ,that is good enough to be there.He will not give you a all star performance but yet he will not hurt you.Tyrus is a guy that is a good fit until something better comes along (CHRIS BOSH PLEASE GOD !!!!!) He makes a good second man or a great 3rd man if you have the depth,but he will never be a really good number 1.
by bears rock on Nov 7, 2009 12:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If a Chris Bosh/Derrick Rose combo is enough to win the championship, then I am wearing pants right now (I am not wearing pants right now).
Everybody fightin' bout a spoonful...
by plastict on Nov 7, 2009 1:05 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
If everyone on this blog believes...
…that we shouldn’t settle for mediocrity as a team, and we should be grumpy b’cos we are not championship caliber right now, why settle for mediocrity at PF??!!!
by bullsfaninbigapple on Nov 7, 2009 5:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Because we're not settling for mediocrity: we're clamoring for mediocrity when we're receiving below-mediocre players.
Also, TT is expanding his game – he’s improving. So that mediocrity may turn into goodness [may turn into greatness?].
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.
by Prevenge on Nov 7, 2009 11:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Shoddy journalism...
posing as fact? it’s more likely than you think. Thanks for all the speculation, fellas. Now climb back into your holes.
Everybody fightin' bout a spoonful...
by plastict on Nov 7, 2009 12:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Losing TT sucks. I can already see VDNs new lineups:
Rose/Pargo/Hinrich/Deng/Gibson
or
Rose/Pargo/Hinrich/Johnson/Miller (or Gray)
by JustAnotherFan on Nov 7, 2009 2:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
With 10 available players,
Vinny has 252 lineup combinations available to him. I’m sure he can come up with something worse.
In honor of the dearly departed, I declare July PB&J month - everyone raise a sandwich to the memory of Ben!
by wjb1492 on Nov 7, 2009 5:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hunter, Pargo, Taj, Jerome James, Gray
VDN: Hunter provided us with good veteran leadership, Pargo was a streaky shooter, I thought Taj gave us a lift, and Jerome and Aaron did a good job clogging up the lane.
Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.
by stupidgenius on Nov 7, 2009 10:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope Tyrus is
resting and not in too much pain after his surgery today. You will be missed Tyrus!
OK I don't know shit about basketball.
by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST
by sue369 on Nov 7, 2009 5:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bulls Blogger Take a Hike
If as you say your enjoyment of the Bulls is at 34%, then you should not be the one blogging about the Bulls. No one that follows the Bulls wants to hear your lame comments. So Bulls Blogger, whoever you are or think you are, TAKE A HIKE and let a real Bulls fan blog!
by RPeter on Nov 8, 2009 1:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He's saying that out of all of his enjoyment
The Bulls are more than a third of that.
Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.
by stupidgenius on Nov 8, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure what I meant
I mean that when I watch the Bulls, it was 34% enjoyable. It was 66% wanting to give up on life and punch things. Now without Tyrus it’s even more skewed towards punchy.
USE THE SOFTWARE. Actions-> Rec/Flag. Reply to comments with the reply button. Rec good fanposts/fanshots so the crud gets pushed down.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 9, 2009 1:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh
Then he’s right about the go take a hike thing from his perspective. I think every sane person is the same as you, watching the Bulls is like a ridiculously hard video game, maddening and frustrating, but fun somehow.
Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.
by stupidgenius on Nov 9, 2009 5:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHA
I’m pretty sure the Internet in America is virtually infinite. I don’t think anyone is getting anyone else’s way of blogging.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
by tyger1147 on Nov 8, 2009 4:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tyrus vs Gibson
Tyrus has experience over Gibson, but Gibson wins over Tyrus for effort, energy, consistency and team play. Tyrus has squandered his potential and hasn’t put together even half of a consistently good season much less a whole one. The Bulls Nation is still waiting Tyrus . .
by RPeter on Nov 8, 2009 1:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Tyrus vs Gibson
Effort: Oh my god, Gibson is gritty, sign him for 8 million a year!
Energy: See effort
Consistency: Stereotype, reputation, not true from the little I’ve seen this year. Could change, but for now, can’t say that he’s not consistent.
Team Play: See consistency
Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.
by stupidgenius on Nov 8, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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