Let's Blame Management, Not Rose
by sugarbear06 on Nov 24, 2009 3:40 PM CST
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I see that this has become a Rose bash site, and when you defend him you can't post, well here goes again, outside of the fact that there are no allstars on the bulls, and our roster consists of has beens, never was, and never will be's somehow magically he is supposed to take on the NBA all by his lonesome. So when this magic doesn't happen let's blame Rose, well here is a flash let's get some real basketball talent around him and see what he does, and I would be the first one to bash him, also throw in a real Coach.
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Mediocrity
we have been watching it so long, we have forgot what real basketball looks like, it is something like what we have been hit over the head with the last 3 games, wake up, you have nothing here but a joke of NBA team.
Not pessimistic just dissapointed
I have seen this rebuilding played out over the last 10 years and finally we get a player that has some talent who is coming off an injury in his second year while only 3 years removed from high school and we want to dump on him.
Being as he could have been DeJuan Blair, Ty Lawson, Chase Budinger....
one might say his presence is hurting them
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
no we don't have to blame anybody but management
what is the logic for Lindsay, that is a roster spot, and who is replacing Gray and T.Thomas while out on injury.This is the whole point of a G.M. to costruct a roster, where are the replacements.
i blame rose for being no better than he was last year.
hes healthy now; hes just a pussy.
"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."
did that dunk count for like 12 or 15 points? no? then he went 7/14 for 14 pts. no fta. pussy.
"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."
I still repeat 2nd year,ROY last, only a handful of games into this year
Show some love, everybody in the NBA gets him, why not you
I'm sure some of you kids on here have played street ball at some point or another, or ran a game at your local 24 fitness....
If you have, then you’ve played with some dudes who were half way decent, and some cats who stunk it up. Did you ever notice how playing with crappy players literally brings your game down a bit or even to their level, or worse?. Ive seen it, Ive had it happen to me, and Ive seen some of the most gifted cats play like shit when their teammates sucked. Im sure thats what is happening to rose. This team is bringing his quality of play way down. Guarantee you, if you stuck rose on the Lakers, or the Heat, or even the Hawks right now, we would be seeing a completely different rose. So, stop putting the kid down for not driving to the hoop every possession, or not taking enough shots, or taking too many shots. You want to see this guy shine for real, put some talent around him. Plain and simple.
"All they do is mock me, just like they did the fat fellow. All the time mocking, mocking, mocking, mocking all the time! Now, it is Babu's turn to mock "---Babu Bhatt in the Seinfeld Finale Part 2
by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 24, 2009 4:58 PM CST reply actions
Allen Iverson played with crappy players
and it just made him look that much better.
by BigBabyCollin on Nov 24, 2009 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
Then AI played with good players
and it made him look that much worse.
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.
You should write a Book for Dummies
Great analysis for know-it-all basketball simpletons.
Thank You
Let’s tell like it is, everybody and there mother knows he is the only one to fear on the Bulls, this is what he is up against every game
Sugarbear, Rose is getting alot of criticism
Some warranted, and some isn’t. Management for Chicago does suck, and if this cat named Jordan hadn’t come to this town nobody would even consider Chicago a basketball city, and to be honest with you, it’s really the third most popular sport in town behind baseball and football. Even Reinsdorf’s first love is baseball and that’s telling. With that being said, Rose is a really good player, the goodest player the Bulls have, he’s young, in a slump, and is still learning the game. I also think him being some what not smart is making him struggle right now. There is a saying that in sports you have to be 70% mentally and 30 percent physically out of sight, (or something like that). Rose having doubts in his head, confidence being shaken, playing poorly due to being out of shape, and thinking too much instead of just going with the flow, is the root of his problems. A few good games, dunking on Oden, playing well on the road, and if he ever breaks through and makes plays in the clutch taking over a game or two will get this kid back on track. It’s way too early in the season, and even earlier in the guys career to write him off, to discuss trading him, or anything else. Especially after he had a dynamite rookie season. If we want to get rid of anybody, I think it should be Vinny, his stooge assistants, and his yes man Lyndsey Hunter!
Excellent point
Coaching is critical in molding talent in early years, for this reason I shudder at a Rookie coach with a rookie player, I remember the years it took for MJ to finally break free from what held him back to start those Championship runs, I think in his heart he is a competitor and when he blossoms, he will explode on the scene. When other nba players talk of him they become estatic describing him, he needs defensive work, and he needs to become more court aware, but again this is year two and the nba ain’t the ymca league.
See how I am replying to you?
When you see a comment you want to reply to click the reply by the posters name. Really helps keep the conversation flowing so it’s easier to follow.
OK I don't know shit about basketball.
by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST
you got to stay sharp on here
alot of experts and alot of critics… have fun blogging!!
"All they do is mock me, just like they did the fat fellow. All the time mocking, mocking, mocking, mocking all the time! Now, it is Babu's turn to mock "---Babu Bhatt in the Seinfeld Finale Part 2
P.S.
"The fact of the matter is the chicago bulls have never been a contender since I left..."----Johnny Kilroy
by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 24, 2009 6:27 PM CST up reply actions
Management! Yes Boo John Paxson and all the rest until they resign
If you see him in 7-11 Boo
If you see him in Kmart’s bathroom .. Boo
If you see him anywhere just .. Boo
"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
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"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"
by exult463 on Nov 24, 2009 6:47 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Blame management for Rose's lack of development.
Blame Thomas for his.
Got it.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
by tyger1147 on Nov 25, 2009 12:27 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Well good teams hire good coaches to coach their talent. The Lakers wouldn’t hire someone like VDN…so yeh management is somewhat to blame.
Championship is Lakers Goal
Not to have to pay Luxury tax, this is Bulls concern, We have VDN only because of Scott Skiles contract, If not that we pack that Madhouse on Madison would it be such a slap in our face that we have this charade of a team, instead of an honest effort to put a competitive team on the floor.
I agree that it's both.
I was just pointing out that for Thomas’s first 3 years, everyone has blamed him except for his absolutely turbulent coaching situation. All of a sudden Rose isn’t doing well, and it’s the management’s fault. On the other hand, Noah’s been good. I think it’s both sides’ “fault.” Thomas has been a malcontent and Rose might not be as good as we think. But the management clearly stinks.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
After witnessing the complete trainwreck the last 3 games, I actually am looking forward to see the studmuffin come back.
How can his presence make the Bulls any worse?
Also I like Tiger’s sarcasm. Rose’s fall off is all managements fault. TT’s lack of development is all his fault. Great point.
Finally, after a dozen games some are jumping off the Rose bandwagon because he is having trouble penetrating against a thick forest of trees. You’d think the lanes would be open all the time with our 3 point accuracy dead last in the league and the failure of our high screen pick and rolls which every team in the league can easily defend since we have so few other options, especially when the jump shots are clanking and ball movement remains stagnant…thanks Kurt, Fish, Jannero, Brad, Taj, etc. But I’m not going to pin any of this on 0 for the season, Lindsay Hunter who is worried about losing his Medicare benifits under the proposed new health care bill.
I admit the bloom is definitely off the Rose, but remember folks, even a beautiful rose has many thorns, and it doesn’t help that our resident green thumb, Vinny, doesn’t know how to nourish and water his garden having been a bricklayer all his career.
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard
by Tyrusmancrush on Nov 26, 2009 5:06 PM CST up reply actions
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