Blazers 122, Bulls 98
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bulls blow, game over
Eat. Sleep. Pray. Watch chicago play!
What do you expect from me? Im a Bears fan.
by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 23, 2009 11:40 PM CST reply actions
yea....whoever said the friendly bullsblogger is not so friendly wasnt lying
Eat. Sleep. Pray. Watch chicago play!
What do you expect from me? Im a Bears fan.
by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 23, 2009 11:42 PM CST up reply actions
at like 400 comments it kills the flow
that’s science.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 23, 2009 11:43 PM CST up reply actions
welcome back!
were you in jail?
''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah
hmmmm
I could make some kind of parallel between Bulls watching and getting violated in prison…
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 23, 2009 11:47 PM CST up reply actions
I was going to say I would be if I had to run this place.
''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah
ran..
oh god yes I feel violated!
''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah
What, no jailblazer jokes come to mind?
"When a hyper-intense guy looks for ways to fire himself up, yeah, it pretty much comes out as wild eyed psycho lunacy." - Jeff Clark from C's blog on KG
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 24, 2009 12:08 AM CST up reply actions
Fuck GarPaxDorf. They failed to construct a talented team.
Vinny’s been bad, but he doesn’t have the talent to compete, either.
Kirk sucks. Brad looks finished. Derrick’s mediocre more often than he’s spectacular. Taj fucking blows.
We have no shooters. We’re an NBA team . . . with no fucking shooters. Absolutely insane.
On the positive side: props to Deng for hitting a couple of non-corner threes.
Everything else sucked.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2009 11:41 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
this comes to mind
why would the bulls management go and get a HC who has no experience at HC?? WHY???
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by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 23, 2009 11:43 PM CST up reply actions
JR is a cheap bastard.
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Nov 23, 2009 11:55 PM CST up reply actions
i hate jerry reinsDORK
"They mocked me, just like they did that fat fellow. Always mocking, mocking, mocking!"... Babu Bhatt in the Seinfeld Finale Part 2
by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 24, 2009 12:41 AM CST up reply actions
Plus,
Where a “small-ball” team that has only one guy that can break someone off the dribble
by RogersPark Kris on Nov 23, 2009 11:43 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, Noah!
That drive in the first quarter WAS pretty cool!
No, no, Vinny has been really bad
His best asset is Derrick Rose right. Granted, Derrick was recovering from the ankle injury, but still, last week’s comments did for me.
Why was Derrick the only one saying he needed to be more aggressive? Can you imagine Skiles coaching this team and Derrick being that passive? Derrick would be benched before we’d even see it happen.
"Some people want it to happen, some wish it would happen, others make it happen." - Michael Jordan
it boggles the mind that the Bulls repeatedly come up the court and run plays
for Deng and Salmons, time and time again when neither of those guys pass the ball worth shit. Look at their stats – each guy holds the ball for 3 seconds, decides what they want to do, and if there is no chance for them to get off a shot, than they pass. They are making Gordon look like Steve Nash with the way they are dishing the ball.
by Basketball Smurf on Nov 23, 2009 11:52 PM CST up reply actions
I already granted that he's been bad, but this is not a talented team. With Tyrus out, they only
go 7 deep and three of those 7 suck (Taj, Salmons, Kirk), one is mediocre most nights (Derrick), and the other two are the only reasons the Bulls have been worth anything this year (Deng and Noah).
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2009 11:53 PM CST up reply actions
oh and the last one is totally washed up (Brad).
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2009 11:53 PM CST up reply actions
Its definitely not talented, but it has no shot of reaching the talent level it has
I don’t care if they try every trick in the book and fail, but our offense is currently dreadful to watch. I agree with Basketball Smurf….if the offense is going to be this bad, you better coach the hell out of Derrick, since he’s your best weapon on offense. Seriously….these blowouts should almost be an opportunity to teach him what he needs to do out there.
Instead, this offense relies on making jump shots almost by design (b/c VDN encourages it). Just look at where guys typically catch the ball. Its embarrassing.
"Some people want it to happen, some wish it would happen, others make it happen." - Michael Jordan
Admittedly....the start of the second half was a lot better
If that’s a sign of things to come, I’ll stop bitching.
"Some people want it to happen, some wish it would happen, others make it happen." - Michael Jordan
our offense is dreadful to watch
because we have dreadful offensive players. i dont really know what else vinny could do for this team offensively
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
Yeah
I’m thinking Vinny’s been pretty crappy of late too, we’re quitting in the 4th, and we have 3 guys who should be enough offensively if we were coached correctly (Rose, Salmons and Deng)….
Sadly....through thick and thin....
i dont think were quitting in the 4th
i think were just tired. were on an extended west coast road trip with a 7 man rotation, and one of the 7 is 36 years old. plus, we rely on superfluous effort to even stay in games against these top teams, and it’s unrealistic to expect them to be able to sustain that effort for 48 minutes on a road trip against the best teams in the league
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
Tired or quitting....fine line....
I’m so annoyed with this club.
Hell the laziness of the GM and marketing execs is proven every time I see the We Love it Live commercials, which end with a Nocioni layup….I mean Noc has been gone almost a year already, and they had a new commercial yesterday that showed a bunch of Rose and Tyrus highlights, and then at the end quickly showed a freaking Nocioni layup.
Hell gimme Nocioni back at half pay….at least having his hustle to go with Noah, Deng, and Rose (And hopefully the reemergence of Salmons) can make our bad team more fun to watch….
Sadly....through thick and thin....
im usually not a vinny fan
but this is not his fault; he simply has very little talent to work with
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
I don't know
I think sure we’re more defensively oriented players/team, but I think there are ways to manage the talent to play better overall..
I usually support Vinny to a degree, but I think the team’s been quitting
Sadly....through thick and thin....
What Vinny needs is a perimeter player who is a scorer, e.g. Ben Gordon.
Unlike Matt, I am still angry over letting BG walk.
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Nov 24, 2009 9:17 AM CST up reply actions
oh, im still angry over that too
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
hey, I'm still angry!
how dare you.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 24, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
I misinterpreted this from your game wrap-up then:
The defense looks ordinary and the offense still looks terrible now that the Bulls are on the road playing very good teams. But they won’t be for long, and I expect them to win enough to stay near .500 all year. That was the prospect laid out for us on July 1st, and since I got most of my anger out then it’s hard to stay that way when things are falling into place.
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Nov 24, 2009 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
hmm...
well rest assured, I’m still angry. I’m just not any more angry than I was 7/1. People said I was over-doing it then, so maybe even though I’m at the same level others have caught up to me.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 24, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
Vinny does need a scorer (Ben Gordon) because...
he has no offensive system and tries to hide his lack of coaching ability with veterans and gunslingers
by him_joke_NOAHmore on Nov 24, 2009 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
How have I been watching this for 10 seasons?
I thought it was going to be one or two years. But it’s fucking groundhogs day over and over! I wanna run through the street naked with my Bulls horn hat from subway that I bought in 1997!
''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah
hahahahahahahaahahahahahah
my sentiments exactly man, lol
Eat. Sleep. Pray. Watch chicago play!
What do you expect from me? Im a Bears fan.
by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 23, 2009 11:44 PM CST up reply actions
Weird game
Arguably our season’s best shooting performance, only 6 turnovers, and we lost by 24. I think Taj is worse than people’s low expectations of him. Here’s to hoping Tyrus’ injury was a blessing in disguise.
how could Tyrus' injury possibly be a blessing in disguise? with him out we're getting murdered.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2009 11:57 PM CST up reply actions
maybe VDN will realize how much better TT is than taj?
"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."
agreed as well
i said something similar to this on a tyrus fanshot yesterday
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
Yeah
And the sad thing is Taj had one of his better games and yet couldn’t play enough real D to offset the Blazers….sure he had a block here or there, but aside from the big plays his D is rookie rough.
He could be a decent 7th man in a year or two, and isn’t exactly a bad pick for the spot we pickeed him, but he’s just getting too much burn.
I think we absolutely need to go small ball:
Rose-Hinrich-Salmons-Deng-Noah with Miller then gasp Pargo tops off the bench, and pray Tyrus gets back in 2 weeks…..
We have no chance other than to use our athletes…
Sadly....through thick and thin....
The problem with that idea
is that Kurt is having a career worst year shooting the ball (3-pt., 2-pt. and FT).
I think we absolutely need to go small ball:
Rose-Hinrich-Salmons-Deng-Noah with Miller
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Nov 24, 2009 9:20 AM CST up reply actions
but, but, BUT...
…he rotates well and plays wonderfully superb TEAM defense. His basketball IQ is off the charts. He’s great! he’s wonderful. he’s the answer!!!
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
Kirk vs Taj
Deng vs Taj?
Enough said….
That lineups better than the one we’re starting with….Salmons more in his natural position, Deng in a Lewis like role…..and the way Deng’s been playing, that seems like it’ll work. Kirk helps us defensively, Rose can attack….
I want Tyrus back obviously, but for now let’s play the best we can….with a thin front line. Brad’s a defensive liability and can be scary bad with turnover runs, though in stretches will play well….
Sadly....through thick and thin....
this team is starting to....
…smell like doo doo
for real
they need to step it up! vinny needs to stop being so passive. get on these guys to hustle and put forth effort, mainly just hit shots. our defense seems to be getting worse too compared to early in the season.
we need thomas and gray back.
i EXPECT to see improvements thursday…i refuse to watch another blowout. dont ruin my thanksgiving Bulls!!
say it isn't so
deng’s looked good. i’m impressed with him. had much lower expectations
noah has been beast. last 2 games he has been outplayed though. he seems frustrated and out of focus. need to get him motivated and focused agan.
rose has looked better last 2-3 games but the team hasn’t. so i don’t know what to think of this. is it worse for the team??
salmons is inconsistent. good game, then 2 bad ones. then finds it again. we need more consistency from you fishsticks.
hinrich has been disappointing. good defense at times, hustle, grind. but his shot is somewhere else. step it up KURT
gibson…not buyng into his hype. but he has been solid at teams. fouls alot and makes his fair share of rookie mistakes. like the hustle tho.
johnson. not much to judge on. looks to have potential but not ready.
with thomas’ return. we should be back to much better standards. more should be demanded from them
those dunks were both nasty, but I'm sure Greg will console himself with the highlights of
his 11 or 12 or whatever crazy number of rebounds he had and all of his baby hooks over Noah’s head.
God damn it.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Nov 24, 2009 12:00 AM CST up reply actions
Shotblockers get dunked on from time to time.
Joel gets it baaaad, but they give more than they get.
by Sabonis4Ever on Nov 24, 2009 12:02 AM CST up reply actions
"they give more than they get"
just like the bulls front office.
"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."
by TheMoon on Nov 24, 2009 12:23 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Brad would be better with less minutes.
Kirk would be better as a starter on another team. Derrick would play better with a SG who can stroke it (BG) lol. But other than that we suck.
Homecoming
Brad played 14 minutes tonight
He can’t play much less than that. He was completely ineffective. He was a big part of the turnaround last year. This year, not so much.
by Basketball Smurf on Nov 23, 2009 11:45 PM CST up reply actions
On the bright side his contract ends next year.
I still think he will be fine, he’s just old lol.
Homecoming
This team has such a lack of talent
that they have to play absolutely perfect defense and shoot a high percentage to have any chance of winning
by RogersPark Kris on Nov 23, 2009 11:46 PM CST reply actions
you know what
i’ll say this. we have had a tough schedule. and our schedule remains pretty tough thru december. our schedule from january on is favorable.
positive note: prior to the season, i wouldn’t have picked us to be 6-7. so i cant really complain. short term just looks ugly though.
a team with no closer, no identity, no experienced coach
we should be happy we are only one game under 500
Eat. Sleep. Pray. Watch chicago play!
What do you expect from me? Im a Bears fan.
by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 23, 2009 11:47 PM CST reply actions
actually I'm with this
they’ll be fine. Lots of crappy teams left to beat up on.
Don’t you all get it? this season was written off July 1st. Just stay the course, stay mediocre. They’re still in that pack.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 23, 2009 11:48 PM CST up reply actions
They are not making the playoffs if they continue to play like this. Soft schedule or no,
this is absolutely atrocious basketball. They are committing crimes against the game on a nightly basis.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2009 11:50 PM CST up reply actions
i can see both sides
on the one hand, were 6-7 against a tough schedule, but on the other, our point differential is dreadful, and the product on the court is even worse.
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
i can see both sides
on the one hand, were 6-7 against a tough schedule, but on the other, our point differential is dreadful, and the product on the court is even worse.
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
also, don't you get it, Matt, the Bulls ARE one of those crappy teams. They're the ones who
are gonna get beat up on.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2009 11:51 PM CST up reply actions
damn, thats what i was afraid of
turning into one of the teams other teams see as an easy W……damn, its happening right before our eyes
Eat. Sleep. Pray. Watch chicago play!
What do you expect from me? Im a Bears fan.
by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 23, 2009 11:53 PM CST up reply actions
I disagree with this
The Bulls matchup bad with the top teams in the league, like all bad teams do. But they matchup with them extra badly, if I can say that, because they lack big men and they can’t score. This is the 3rd game in a row that the Bulls have been physically overwhelmed inside. Add in the fact that the Lakers, Nuggs and Blazers all have more perimeter talent and you have 3 straight blowouts..
Not every team in the league is going to have this gigantic a physical advantage over the Bulls.
by Basketball Smurf on Nov 23, 2009 11:55 PM CST up reply actions
Okay, say they get blown out against all the very good to great teams
then they go .500 (based on their play so far that’s pretty generous) against the rest of the league, that still puts them well below .500 and out of the playoffs. This is a 33-35 win team. Book it.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2009 11:56 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, its in the book
they don’t get blown out by all the good teams. Just by all the good teams on the road. They still got those wins over Cleveland and SA. I’m going to take those to my grave.
by Basketball Smurf on Nov 23, 2009 11:57 PM CST up reply actions
SA is not good right now. They were especially bad to start the year. Same with CLE.
They are both getting it together, but the Bulls were fortunate to play them both at the start of the year when they were sorting shit out.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2009 11:59 PM CST up reply actions
SA always start slow
and then they get a winning streak later.They dont really care about tiring themselves out in the beginning.
is that like part of the 2010 plan?
2010’s like 8th place teams?
''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah
Exactly
We’ll be 41-41….but this year we’ll overperform to get there…
Sadly....through thick and thin....
How the hell does Rose play 38 minutes and not even draw a single foul?
Some of this is his fault. His aggressiveness ebbs and flows like the tide.
Vinny should quit his current gig and apply to become captain on the Exxon Valdez.
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard
I watched the game...
The refs blew at least four fouls on Derrick for one…also, most of the “offensive sets” (if you can call them that), involved Derrick passing the ball off immmediately….Roy was attcking the rim all game because the plays or at least initial sets were created that way…he was given space off of his high screens…when the Bulls gave Rose space, he was successful…he had two of the sweetest reverse layups I have seen in awhile from anyone…it’s Vinny’s job to get Derrick the room to attack more….too bad Salmons and Hinrich aren’t exactly halping
by DRose01 on Nov 24, 2009 7:09 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
THe refs blew in general
Noah was getting pushed in the back with every rebound attempt, 9 out of 10 of which would result in the Blazers getting the boards….
They were aggressive and it wasn’t a clear calling on both ends….which I think lead to our collapse this time in the 4th.
Still we’re bad.
Sadly....through thick and thin....
what did we expect?
I think I kinda bought into the defensive improvement thing. I bought it. Damn!
''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah
We need to trade Deng and Tyrus for a bigman who can score
then trade Hinrich for a backup PG and a wing who can stroke it. Then trade Salmons to Utah for Korver for the hell of it.
Homecoming
P T Barnum (speaking of circuses) once said
There’s a sucker born every minute and we bought into the hype.
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard
only 2 highlights of the game
rose dunking big time, and noah posterizing the old man…..thats about it
Eat. Sleep. Pray. Watch chicago play!
What do you expect from me? Im a Bears fan.
by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 23, 2009 11:51 PM CST reply actions
You forgot the 3rd highlight
Lindsey Hunter throwing up an air ball that went 8 feet beyond the rim.
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard
by Tyrusmancrush on Nov 23, 2009 11:53 PM CST up reply actions
hahahahahahahahaha, lol
yea your right, 3 bigtime highlights lol
Eat. Sleep. Pray. Watch chicago play!
What do you expect from me? Im a Bears fan.
by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 23, 2009 11:54 PM CST up reply actions
or pargo's shot thing!
''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah
We've lost the last three games by an average of 18 points,
and in reality, we weren’t really that close. Cutting leads down to single digits with more than a quarter left doesn’t mean shit. Most good teams screw around until the fourth quarter anyway.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
The Bulls shrink like a dick in cold water.
How after 10 years and numerous draft picks
we don’t have a big who can score or a couple of good shooters?
Homecoming
easy
you give away your bigs who who dont pan out instantly, or trade for players with lesser value even though they shouldnt be in the nba….oh, and keep bringing in coaches who dont know their asses from a hole in the ground, thats how
Eat. Sleep. Pray. Watch chicago play!
What do you expect from me? Im a Bears fan.
by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 23, 2009 11:58 PM CST up reply actions
And let your shooters go for nothing.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
Paxson sucked at his job.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2009 11:58 PM CST up reply actions
damn I just want this summer to come!
I wanna know if I should invest anymore time with this limp dick team.
''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah
thts some funny shit
but i wouldnt get my hopes up, based on the history of this team making ballsy moves, it prob aint gonna happen….oh other teams will capitalize, improve their roster, teams who already are polished will get more fire power, we will prob try to bring jalen rose back lol
Eat. Sleep. Pray. Watch chicago play!
What do you expect from me? Im a Bears fan.
by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 24, 2009 12:00 AM CST up reply actions
Hmm, who is this summer's version of Jalen Rose
Is T-Mac a free agent this year?
by RogersPark Kris on Nov 24, 2009 12:01 AM CST up reply actions
he is indeed.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Nov 24, 2009 12:02 AM CST up reply actions
I'm guessing he'll take less to play on a team that has championship potential...
And I don’t mean the Rockets.
"When a hyper-intense guy looks for ways to fire himself up, yeah, it pretty much comes out as wild eyed psycho lunacy." - Jeff Clark from C's blog on KG
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 24, 2009 12:10 AM CST up reply actions
I have a problem.
If 2010 is a failure I’ll need to get some help.
''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah
There's a playbook?
"When a hyper-intense guy looks for ways to fire himself up, yeah, it pretty much comes out as wild eyed psycho lunacy." - Jeff Clark from C's blog on KG
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 24, 2009 12:10 AM CST up reply actions
Play sheet - reverse side is blank. :(
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Nov 24, 2009 12:11 AM CST up reply actions
And apperantly the other side just says 2010...
In capital and bold letters.
"When a hyper-intense guy looks for ways to fire himself up, yeah, it pretty much comes out as wild eyed psycho lunacy." - Jeff Clark from C's blog on KG
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 24, 2009 12:13 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah
It was funny some of our out of bounds plays were totally the BG plays Vinny called last year, except with Salmons taking an open but tough shot out of the corner, I think Salmons got open all 2-3 times they ran this, but went an easy 0-3….
BG would have hit 2 of those at least….and if he was on, all 3….give that man an open look and he hits…..shame.
Sadly....through thick and thin....
Noah's was amazing too
Those really were awesome plays….in an un-awesome game.
Sadly....through thick and thin....
terrible rebounding differential. loose balls (50/50s) all grabbed by portland. refs calls favor blazers as if they were lakers. oden makes all but 2 free throws. andre miller has his best blazer game(?), as he parades to the foul line as well. bulls score okay off numerous rose drive and dish plays, yet rose looks more like boris diaw than tony parker (france is on my mind atm – it’s a long story) by passing up easier chance buckets or fouls in the paint. nate has them shoot early in the first half – 60%. second half bull defense forces many buzzer beaters – all (i swear, all) go in the basket, either dunks in the paint or (more often) 3 point bombs. noah tries to match strength with oden (who should not even be in the game with foul trouble, but he’s playing the bulls) …and fails.
and shows his and our collective frustration. but noah had a dunk, as did rose…. and deng hit two 3s.
that’s my recap, but not to worry. the bulls are still on course to go 6-9 for the first 15. or, i should say, they’re actually ahead of my personal 5-10 prediction.
the name of the team is The DIAMONDBACKS
In Oden's FT defense...
He’s been shooting around 75-80% for the season. He’s a good FT shooter.
Aside from choking twice (against Denver on TNT and against… the Hornets? I forget) he’s been an extremely reliable FT shooter, especially for a non-shooting raw 21 year old 7 footer.
Rose is still just hurt, he’ll come around. He’s awesome. And Noah has been awesome all year too, he just can’t match up with Oden’s size… and now that Oden is in shape, he’s been doing this all year. We just don’t pass to him nearly enough because we aren’t used to a big like Oden, and foul problems have limited him almost every game.
Mortimer
we
DON’T
CCCAAAAARRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the name of the team is The DIAMONDBACKS
I just want you to sleep easier tonight
Knowing that Oden’s FT shooting wasn’t an aberration. You weren’t unlucky there, it was normal.
Now you can lay your sweet head on your dainty pillow and rest easy, not a care in the world.
I’m surprised you don’t care about Rose being eventually awesome again.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Nov 24, 2009 1:37 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
And please understand
I don’t go to other team’s sites to gloat, I just like talking about the game.
I don’t think anyone should be down on Noah after the game, since Oden has VERY quietly been the Blazers best player this season. And that isn’t an exaggeration. The very best two-way player.
He just gets in foul trouble every damn game, so the raw per game stats don’t reflect it, just stuff like adjusted plus minus, PER, and per-36.
Noah has been awesome all year, but he can’t help it when he’s out-sized. Noah already did a great job getting stronger, and he always tries, so it ain’t his fault.
I’d like Rose to sit if he’s truly unhealthy; no point in getting that ankle worsened. If he IS healthy, then he’s just rusty.
One thing I don’t get— why do you guys hate Taj Gibson already? Shouldn’t a rookie get at least 13 games before you hate him?
Morty
Because he is not Blair
"Oden is a man among cub scouts."
by Tyrusmancrush on Nov 23, 2009 9:08 PM PST
by Sabonis4Ever on Nov 24, 2009 2:06 AM CST up reply actions
yeah.
I don’t hate him.
''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah
We don't hate Taj Gibson,
we hate VDN for over-playing him and JR being too cheap for the Bulls to have a better backup and Paxson for signing the useless Lindsey Hunter instead of buying a second round pick and getting DeJuan Blair to bang inside.
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Nov 24, 2009 2:06 AM CST up reply actions
Seems like every fanbase is upset over not getting Blair
Aside from the Spurs, of course. Over at Blazers Edge it’s become cliche to wish we had Blair.
I personally think, over time, people won’t regret not getting Blair. He’s an amazing rebounder and good at put backs, but he’ll never be able to defend any other big. He’s too slow for the smaller quick ones, too small for the real ones. That may be fine in a backup, but those limitations combined with the fact that his knees could explode at any moment (he could be getting out of a car, and they could go, ya never know), mean that missing out on the New-Jack Reggie Evans won’t be a big deal.
If Tyrus wasn’t hurt, Blair would hardly be playing. Plus you won’t need a guy who only rebounds as long as you got Noah, Miller, and Tyrus.
I agree about Lindsay Hunter… he’s your Juwan Howard.
Sorry about misreading the feelings on Taj, I only skimmed the comments to get a general feel. Seemed overwhelmingly negative to me, especially for a rookie. I should have assumed it was VDN putting him in a position to fail, over it being an actual problem with The Taj.
Morty
It's not VDN putting him in a position to fail
it’s PaxDorf, he of the ’Let’s have four bigs and then Aaron Gray gets injured because I really need Lindsay Hunter and Jannero Pargo as extra guards, so we can’t pick up some random serviceable big men’ plan.
When TT gets hurt … especially with Gray out, we have absolutely no depth.
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.
The Bulls future is more depressing than the present
Somehow, they’ve played around .500 ball and been more competitive than I thought they would. Look at the junk they throw out on the floor. They have 2 usually good players in Noah and Deng. No one else is particularly good and some like Gibson, Salmons, and Hinrich are pretty bad. It’s shocking they’ve won 6 games.
Unfortunately, they aren’t getting anyone decent in 2010. They won’t have the money. Salmons isn’t opting out and Hinrich is a millstone. Explain too me how Gordon can be declared garbage by the casual fanbase while Kirk somehow escapes criticism.
Anyway, the Bulls best hope of adding talent in 2010 is their damn draft pick. And even that is shadowed by the Bulls inability to develop talent. It’s a crime that Rose is playing for VDN instead of someone like D’Antoni. At this point, the best they could do would be to somehow trade Deng and get some expiring money back, but his contract is still bad even though he’s decent he’s probably still untradeable.
The only hope for this franchise rising out of mediocrity is another lottery miracle, so that’s what I’m going to hope for. Making the playoffs would be a bad thing for this team.
the VDN hire is mind boggling still
You get the #1 pick in the draft. You put the future of the franchise in his hands. And you hire a coach with zero experience to teach him the game? Huh? Dorf’s cheapness screws the Bulls again.
by Basketball Smurf on Nov 24, 2009 12:19 AM CST up reply actions
We need to take so we can get top 5 five pick lol.
unless we do something we are not landing Bron, Bosh, Wade or Joe Johnson then we are screwed.
Homecoming
Salmons is coming around
For his contract he’s pretty excellent….just started off poorly.
Hinrich? What the hell? I don’t get it this year.
Sadly....through thick and thin....
are we getting a game recap?
I need to know how to feel. It’s therapeutic.
''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah
Recap...
Many Blazers all tall and strong. Better than us at shooting too. VDN sucks. You should feel bad.
"When a hyper-intense guy looks for ways to fire himself up, yeah, it pretty much comes out as wild eyed psycho lunacy." - Jeff Clark from C's blog on KG
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 24, 2009 12:18 AM CST up reply actions
thank you!
''My favorite player growing up was Kevin Garnett and he's now my least favorite player. ''-Joakim Noah
To feel better I play with NBA2K10 and ESPN trade machine lol.
At least I can make decent trades to improve our team.
Homecoming
good for you!
now promise not to post them on my fav blog message board!
hah.
the name of the team is The DIAMONDBACKS
the thing that scares me the most about this game?
pargo, hinrich, rose, and salmons all shot well (22-44 combined, pargo was the worst %wise at 4-9) and we still lost by 24. granted, the opposition isn’t going to shoot as well as portland did tonight every night, but it’s disconcerting that our guards all finally shot a decent percentage (although rose still wasn’t efficient) and we still got hammered
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
im also sickened that we let that ninny LMA get 13 rebounds
a 47-27 advantage on the boards for portland certainly hurt us, but that won’t happen every night. it’s easy to dominate the other team on the glass when we miss 43 shots and they only miss 31.
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
It's not they so much as it was
Taj.
Taj can make a good play here or there, but he’s not yet close to a starting 4….
Sadly....through thick and thin....
agreed
it’s difficult to rebound effecitvely as a team when your starting 4 stinks at rebounding. the rebounding from last night doesn’t really concern me long term though— deng and noah were each well below their rebound averages, and there weren’t many rebounds to be had because portland didn’t miss.
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
ha ha
"Oden is a man among cub scouts."
by Tyrusmancrush on Nov 23, 2009 9:08 PM PST
by Sabonis4Ever on Nov 24, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
I only saw the first half
It seemed like Portland was going to hit every shot they took, even with two guys in their face. I didn’t think the D was all that bad, but it’s pretty demoralizing when they hit jumpers time and again even though you’re right in their kitchen.
2nd half
Was the Rudy Fernandez show. Seriously that guy is incredible and under-utilized…because the Blazers have too much depth.
Pax should work long and hard to pry him from Portland if at all available.
Sadly....through thick and thin....
We shall see
So far no….both let BG walk….and both think veteran leadership helps more than actual talent (Pargo +Hunter) and (Griffin + Allen)…
Sadly....through thick and thin....
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