Thorpe's New Sophomore Rankings: Rose #19

Thorpe goes so far as to say that he expects Rose to be much higher by the end of the season, but based on production thus far, he's #19, with Beasley directly behind him at #20.

Marc Gasol took top honors.

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Hibbert is ahead of Rose..

and rightfully so. Looking at the top 20 only Beasley has been a bigger disappointment than Rose.

by diedaily23 on Nov 20, 2009 1:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Fuckin Thorpe LOVES Marc Gasol. He ranked him super high last year in the Rookie Rankings too.

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2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Nov 20, 2009 1:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

look at Gasol's numbers vs. Noah's

it’s pretty hard to deny what he’s doing

by jpm356 on Nov 20, 2009 7:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I went and checked it out after. He's been pretty great so far. The Gasol for Gasol swap

doesn’t look nearly so bad for the Grizzlies now, especially since they have no $ being a small market team. They could have done worse in that deal.

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2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Nov 20, 2009 7:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

except they then wasted the cap space on Zach Randolph

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 23, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

dunno if its legal

if it isn’t then I’m just writing out a list of 2nd year players..

1. Marc Gasol, Grizzlies
2. Russell Westbrook, Thunder
3. Roy Hibbert, Pacers
4. Jason Thompson, Kings
5. Greg Oden, Trail Blazers
6. Brook Lopez, Nets
7. Ryan Anderson, Magic
8. Anthony Randolph, Warriors
9. Rudy Fernandez, Trail Blazers
10. Chris Douglas-Roberts, Nets
11. O.J. Mayo, Grizzlies
12. Eric Gordon, Clippers
13. Danilo Gallinari, Knicks
14. George Hill, Spurs
15. Ersan Ilyasova, Bucks
16. Donte Greene, Kings
17. Mario Chalmers, Heat
18. J.J. Hickson, Cavaliers
19. Derrick Rose, Bulls
20. Michael Beasley, Heat

by diedaily23 on Nov 20, 2009 3:14 PM CST reply actions 1 recs

I think Thorpe's pushing it to rank Hickson, Ilyasova, Greene and Gallinari ahead of Rose

he must be basing that on “surpassing expectations” or something.

But Thorpe has been on Gasol and Westbrook’s dicks since day one. I mean, these ratings are pushing it a little bit. JJ Hickson is averaging 7 ppg and 2 rpg — and he’s ranked about Rose?!

Rose has been disappointing, and at times outright bad; but looking at it objectively he should be ranked in the top 12 of this list.

"This is not Vietnam, Smokey, there are rules here." - Walter Sobchak

by Rose Colored Goggles on Nov 20, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed.

The only explanation that makes sense is that it’s all relative to expectations, which is pretty dumb, because half of the players on this list mean shit to their teams relative to the Rose’s, Mayo’s, Lopez’s, and Westbrook’s.

by Diz on Nov 20, 2009 4:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Thorpe's method of analysis

usually involves looking at a player’s PER and than ranking them accordingly. I was a big fan, but I’ve been down on him lately. His analysis seems pretty shallow.

Rudy Fernandez is averaging 8 pts off the bench in 22 minutes. Ilyasova is averaging just under 10 pts on 42% shooting. George Hill is averaging 13 pts and 2 assists on 42% shooting.

Ranking Beasley and Rose 19 and 20 was based on pure shock value.

by Basketball Smurf on Nov 20, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs