Game Preview #10: Chicago Bulls vs. Los Angeles Lakers
[Thanks to Prevenge for today's game preview. -ed.]
Or, as it is otherwise known, "The Return of Crazy Pills".
You may have heard of the Los Angeles Lakers. They're a pretty good basketball team. Have one or two good players.
Well, then they have Crazy Pills, or [as he is otherwise known] Ron Artest, the man who is changing his number to 37 because that's the number of weeks Michael Jackson's 'Thriller' was number 1. Apparently, the Lakers thought that Trevor Ariza wasn't worth the same amount of money as Artest, despite Ariza proving in the playoffs that he was a very good role-player and defender who could hit the open 3 and dunk [and also come up with key steals].
This is both good and bad for us. It's good because Ariza is playing pretty well in Houston, and Artest is both regressing and in the first year of a 3-year deal. Think of Ron Artest as the Lakers' answer to Andres Nocioni, bad-signing-wise: only they could've had a cheaper and better version of him for the same price. He's good, but he's not worth that money when he's so inefficient. Maybe, when we're peaking in two years with Joe Johnson and Rose in our 4th-seed-at-best lineup monstrosity, the Lakers will be weaker.
Of course, when we had Artest as a young player, we traded him and Brad Miller to the Pacers for a second-round pick and Jalen Rose.
So we basically did the same thing the Lakers did. But at least we had a semi-plausible reason to get rid of Ron Artest, which is that he's crazy. [Brad Miller, well, that's another story.]
Did I mention this yet?
Here's his Wikipedia Page. Some bullet points:
-In his rookie season with the Chicago Bulls, he was criticized for applying for a job at Circuit City in order to get an employee discount.
-He was suspended for two games in the early 2004–05 season by Pacers coach Rick Carlisle after he allegedly asked for a month off because he was tired from promoting an R&B album for the group Allure on his production label.
Oh, yeah, and he was kind of involved in this. [That's the brawl, in case you were wondering.]
The last time the Bulls played the Lakers was in March of last year. We lost by 8 after building a lead. However, that game was at home, with Tyrus Thomas and Ben Gordon both contributing [Salmons, too].
Pau Gasol is back for this game after his CSI-induced vacation. Hopefully he's gotten cehmically addicted to something, because otherwise ... let's just say that Taj Gibson has big problems against Jason Thompson, and while Thompson's good, he's not Pau Gasol.
[Sidenote: Gasol wasn't as good on the Grizzlies as he is on the Lakers. He's hyper-efficient, and even a bit strong.]
Matchups to watch
There's a bunch.
- How will Noah do against either Bynum or Gasol [or both]? Noah's the leading rebounder in the NBA, so we at least have a chance down low.
-How will Taj do against either Bynum or Gasol? Or Odom? Uh, I'm just gonna file this under 'problems the Bulls are going to have'.
-Oh hey, we have this great shooting guard who will match Kobe Bryant shot for shot! ...
Problem #2. At least Salmons' crappy help D [I've heard but haven't really seen] won't be exposed, because Kobe likes to iso.
-If Derrick Rose doesn't explode against Derek Fisher, it's the ankle. I mean ... look at Derek. He can't guard anybody, and he can't shoot! He's basically like our own Derrick, only if you had him sprain BOTH ankles, and maybe kicked him in the crotch a couple times to slow him down.
Wait, that didn't work for the Warriors. Hmm. Maybe he just needs to get revved up. I've heard that Shannon Brown can jump pretty high, and I'm sure he can kick.
[Sidenote: Whoever does the next Bulls-Warriors game has to use that video.]
-How will Luol Deng respond knowing that the man across from him on the court may be criminally insane? Win? Lose? Go crazy? Both? Neither?
- WWRD? [Or, 'What Will Ron Do?' This can also be used for Ron Paul.] We know he's crazy. He's kind of mellowed out, except for the times where he's crazy. So what's Artest going to do?!? If we had more crazy people on our team, this game could get really fun. I don't think anything's going to happen, though. Our only enforcer [a pseudo-enforcer at that: I'm talking about Brad Miller] has played with him for a long while. And yes, this means the SF matchup is two matchups. One is Luol Deng vs. Ron Artest. The other one is Ron Artest vs. Ron Artest. Maybe Joakim will bother him with all the yelling.
So. A prediction. I don't think we're going to win. Rose is still battling an ankle injury, and the Lakers are the Lakers. But more surprising things have happened [who thought Milwalkee'd have a record over .500?]. The Lakers have looked pretty bad in the stretch before the Pistons game, and should've lost to the Thunder [the only game this year I've followed]. Not that we've really looked any better. And they are 8-3, while we're ... 6-4.
Pretty meaningless game against a team that's better than us, and it's on the dreaded circus trip [so named because the Ringling Bros. circus moves into the Bulls' players' favorite riverfront casino, forcing them to travel the road in search of other ways to gamble. This is why everyone dreads those away games at Utah].
Lakers by 10, but I'm crossing my fingers for Bulls by 3.
*update* Multiple people have pointed out that Ariza signed for basically the MLE [the Injury Exception], and that Ariza's agent was playing hardball trying to get them to offer $8 million per [and then rising]. Also, Artest's contract is $18 million over 3 years [it declines], not over 5 years. Fxed/updated/etc.
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The Nerve!
Think of Ron Artest as the Lakers’ answer to Andres Nocioni, bad-signing-wise
This is when I stopped reading this preview.
keep telling sactown royalty to build around him
Lurking since 2006
by boyonthedock on Nov 19, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
also, going to see the pixies tommorrow
gonna be awesome
Lurking since 2006
by boyonthedock on Nov 19, 2009 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
saw them in oakland last week
don’t try and yell out track numbers to them or kim deal will get mad at you. and she can probably kick your ass.
i'm hot for teacher
It's not that Nocioni is bad.
It’s that his contract is bad.
As much as I disliked his contract, it was fun to watch him play. :)
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.
Yep...Ron Artest has had some issues...
…and as such he gets to say things on the court like “Don’t you know who I am? I am Ron Artest!”…I am certain this type of intimidation will work on the weaker players who will cower in their Sudanese fear, while the MMA fighter will come to his rescue.
In all seriousness, the Lakers are better than the Bulls at every position on the floor except for PG and are playing at home…I am just saying 10 points might be a stretch…
Why isn't your friendly Bulls Blogger friendly?
Not at every position
They aren’t better than us at every position. I’m sure Derrick will have a great game against the Lakers. But I’m also very excited to see Noah’s interior defense against Bynum and Gasol.
This is Gasol first game of the season and just like many have said before the Lakers haven’t really looked all that dominant in the past few games.
I’m not sure they are better than us at the 3 either.
I honestly think we can win this one.
Bulls by 6!
I said every position except PG.
…and I stand by that.
Why isn't your friendly Bulls Blogger friendly?
Just on espn
Rose said that he will grow out his hair until he plays better.
Personally to me its the injury and when he gets healthy he will be back.
haha
you dont read around on this site do you? ;)
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
no biggie
i initially just came on this site once to post an idea, but i found myself loving this site cuz anything bulls basketball related (even if the connection is a stretch) shows up on this site…usually…. even like moves that are about to go down in the league show up in the fanshots section, so usually before espn gets to air it (they usually need confirmation while bloggers post the moment they hear about it) this site has the news…
at any rate in the fanshots section ( and i think theres also a fanpost that talks aobut it) theres a link up already
http://www.blogabull.com/2009/11/18/1164197/im-not-getting-no-haircut-derrick
this was posted about 17 hours ago, i know that u were probably on the site while this post was up but probably didnt see it cuz its not on the front page, which is cool. But this place often has some good tidbits that arent in the news (yet) so its a good idea to read around and check out some of hte fanshots…
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
yea, i heard barbers all around the windy city are preparing themselves for a drought lol
But to comment on this post, I must agree with you, Ron Artest is CRAZY….You dont have to look far or at his past antics to see that, look at his hair!!! Dont get me wrong, back in the day it was the thing to do for youngsters to carve out their hair with slogans, team logos, etc., but they were teenagers!!! Artest is an old cat, so that (and if you look into his eyes) can tell you that if you could hear or read what was going on in that dudes mind, you would hear the theme from “psycho” playing in the background. Also, speaking of hair, I gotta say, at first it hit me as a WTF moment (about rose and not cutting his hair until he is out of his slump), then I thought, well, atleast the young guy knows he is underachieving, and damnit, if he feels that by not cutting his hair until he improves is a step in the right direction, then im all for it, and I applaud the kid for taking it to that level as opposed to just lip service at media time and press conferences….But i feel he will be back, and will help achieve great things for the team he plays for.
Eat. Sleep. Pray. Watch chicago play.
P.S.
You've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a shit about what you think.
by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 19, 2009 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
Some players
have a ritual.So with Rose im not suprised.Thats what I like about him.He wants to improve on all aspects of his game.And when he knows hes struggling he knows.When he is healthy he will be back.GUARANTEED!
As a sign of solidarity, I have decided that I, too, shall abstain from hair cuts until Derrick plays better.
Just waiting on some offense....
by wjb1492 on Nov 19, 2009 7:16 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I'm in.......
til Tuesday. ;-)
OK I don't know shit about basketball.
by SoulEater7 on Nov. 5, 2009 9:51 PM CST
I'm in too
until I forget.
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.
Hopefully all of Rose's talk over the last couple days...
is actualized and there can be a big sigh of relief—from both the stress and the speculation which propagates it.
Whether ankle injury, psychology—is he displacing by referencing his friend’s perceptions of his playing experience…OR WILL WE NEVER KNOW—or lack of second offensive threat, there needs to be a serious drop in the attuning to Rose’s wavelengths and channeling his grandfather’s wise ghost, or whatever.
by Super-Structure on Nov 19, 2009 4:50 PM CST reply actions
I thought the Lakers tried to sign Ariza with the same amount they offered Artest
but he was looking for a bigger contract and felt unappreciated by the Lakers organization.
Anyways, few days ago I thought we would have a chance against them, with Gasol out and possibly Kobe as well, but no luck, Gasol decides to suit up tonight and Kobe dropped his 100th 40 points game in the last game against Pistons. Grreeeaaattt…
"You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless! You gotta hope even more, and cover your ears and go 'bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla!'"
I thought the Rockets basically gave him the same contract but guess not. To me that was mostly lip service though Ariza knows he’ll just be under Kobes shadow 2009 was “kobe’s ring” everyone says. Now hes getting to go on a team with a bigger role and expand his game so even before the off season I thought thats what he wanted.
yeah, you're right
He fits well in the Rockets though, it completes their team of second round or undrafted players.
"You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless! You gotta hope even more, and cover your ears and go 'bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla!'"
Ariza wanted $7-8 million
Kupchak wouldn’t pay that, and when Ariza played hardball, Kupchak signed Artest as plan B. Ariza signed for basically the same amount in Houston because he essentially had no other options salary-wise. Ariza is fantastic, and he has a lot of potential, but he’s not worth $7-8 million.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
I have watched several Laker games this year and they
Look beatable,really deep for bigs but the rest of their bench is pretty bad.when Ron ron starts chucking it up its shots that the much more effecient Kobe aint taking,any way good luck
by southern oregon on Nov 19, 2009 6:39 PM CST reply actions
I'm still pretty sure that getting Ron Artest was a better deal over getting Ariza
But yes, the dude is…strange….
“-If Derrick Rose doesn’t explode against Derek Fisher, it’s the ankle. I mean … look at Derek. He can’t guard anybody, and he can’t shoot! He’s basically like our own Derrick, only if you had him sprain BOTH ankles, and maybe kicked him in the crotch a couple times to slow him down.”
That made me laugh out loud, also..haha..
Brad Miller is supposedly good buddies with Artest
I wonder if he’s ever taken Artest fishing? Does Artest flip out if he doesn’t catch any fish?
Take him fishing like
Fredo in The Godfather?
Kobe might do that if he destroys the Lakers’ season.
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
Is anyone else watching the Hornets-Suns game right now?
The reason I ask is because this is probably the most unenthusiastic call for a nationally televised game that I’ve ever heard. Kevin Harlan is practically whispering the call with basically no inflection in his voice. I know it’s a crap game, but come on. Can someone please tell me if I’m right or maybe I’m nuts…
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
He said he had a cold and apologized at the beginning of the game.
by Super-Structure on Nov 19, 2009 9:00 PM CST up reply actions
Reggie's got to step up his game then!
by JockstrapNoah on Nov 19, 2009 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
Ahh, I see, thanks. That would explain it then
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 19, 2009 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
Nope.
How many points are the Suns winning by? 50?
…
Eh, maybe I’ll go watch.
[eats gummy worms.]
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.
Actually the Hornets are winning by one in the fourth
and it’s been a pretty good game so far, which is what made it so odd to me in the first place. Enjoy your gummy worms
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 19, 2009 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I saw the Hornets win
really odd officiating. Collison came through with some big shots, which is nice to see.
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.
I was expecting a much shorter preview from yfbb, something along the lines of
“Here comes the murdertrain.”
by KentuckyBullsFan on Nov 19, 2009 9:13 PM CST reply actions
Not signing Ariza was a terrible move.
If only for being a solid player for a post-Kobe transition period.
by Super-Structure on Nov 19, 2009 9:19 PM CST reply actions
The guy that threw the drink at Artest was on ESPN this morning and said Artest is a good guy
The man actually said he had a history with drinking problems and actually takes responsibility for what happened. He says on Artest called him after the incident apologised and offered to do some sort of community service thing with the guy. The guy says he threw a soda at Ron (after having a few beers) that hit him square and Ron ran and grabbed the wrong person. He later said that he himself is currently sober and still trying to maintain from alcohol, and that he thinks drinking is what caused the whole ordeal. He said he and Ron are close and that if they were offered the chance to work together to do some sort of charity foundation or a NBA sponsored message they’d do it in a heartbeat.
I'm happy nobody noticed,
but I’m really good with numbers. Game 10, 11, eh, what’s the difference, amirite?
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.

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