Hollinger power rankings - Bulls 19th

But they are 2nd in schedule strength.

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wow the Hawks are the beasts of the East.

Who would have thunk it? Great start.. I had the 4th in the East.

by SoulEater7 on Nov 17, 2009 12:19 PM CST reply actions

well, can't have it both ways

the Hawks are technically ‘perpetually mediocre’, the same terrible fate the Bulls claim to be avoiding by letting people walk.

So we can’t really envy their success.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 17, 2009 12:20 PM CST up reply actions

they loaded up on more talent this year after a good year last year.

Crawford might be a chucker, but he’s a good scorer and helps as a sixth man. Joe Smith still produces. The rest of their talent has continued to develop well. They’ve built a very nice team there and they actually play well against the Celtics with KG, who seems to make the Bulls pee their pants.

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2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Nov 17, 2009 12:45 PM CST up reply actions

that's what I mean

the Bulls don’t believe on getting more talent each year. They try and get rid of talent with the promise of getting better talent to replace it later.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 17, 2009 1:16 PM CST up reply actions

what u talking bout?

We got Aaron Gray. How u like those apples?

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by Belize on Nov 17, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions

Like Atlanta did...

When they let Josh Childress go play in Europe rather than meeting his contract demands? Then later they signed Maurice Evans to replace him…

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by Dionysus2.0 on Nov 17, 2009 1:32 PM CST up reply actions

Sunk cost. They screwed up there, but they didn't continue doing that strategy.

The Bulls let good talent go for contract reasons all the time. For instance, Tyson Chandler was shipped out for a bag of balls because he and Ben Wallace were viewed as too similar and rather than having two quality big men and paying for them, the Bulls decided to get rid of one for nothing. Then they did the same crap with BG. They are currently on line to do the same thing to Tyrus. Jerry Reinsdorf is cheap and sucks and I hate him for it.

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2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Nov 17, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions

How quickly we forget history.

Hawks trade Ratliff, Abdur-Rahim and Dickau for Rasheed, then trade Rasheed for Bob Sura, Chris Mills, Zeljko Rebraca and a draft pick. They got a better player out of their draft pick (Josh Smith, picked #17) than the Bulls got from the Chander deal, but the Bulls also got a player back in PJ Brown who was instrumental in getting them to the second round of the playoffs.

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by Dionysus2.0 on Nov 17, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions

that was a rebuilding trade.

they did it for the expiring contracts, and signed Joe Johnson with the cap room.

Bulls did it to stay under the tax.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 17, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions

and that's what I get

for ignoring my ‘ignore D2.0’ stance for a moment. darnit.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 17, 2009 2:07 PM CST up reply actions

Not exactly...

There was a Jason Terry for Antoine Walker trade, then Antoine Walker for the soon to be cut Gary Payton trade…the point is, they did not sign Joe Johnson the summer after trading Sheed for a bag of balls, they signed him the following summer.

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by Dionysus2.0 on Nov 17, 2009 2:15 PM CST up reply actions

oooooh, the second round of the playoffs. the promised land!

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2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Nov 17, 2009 2:55 PM CST up reply actions

Rec'd

and noted.

We can all pick and choose the moves from the past this organization made that were failures, for me the signing of Wallace hated it then and hate it now, but those past mistakes are not doomed to repeat themselves…

Every team in the league goes through a period of rebuilding, where they decide certain players do not fit together, other players suck and in general the team needs an overhaul. The shitty thing is that it has been over 10 in Chicago, and we have two keepers.

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by Dionysus2.0 on Nov 17, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions

good point

I wouldn’t say Atlanta is exemplary.

Though the situations aren’t completely analogous, since they had Marvin Williams as the replacement. And they haven’t lost Childress’ rights yet.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 17, 2009 1:57 PM CST up reply actions

That's really the key point, isn't it?

The one that D2.0 knows but is conveniently forgetting just to make his point and hoping no one else notices.

Childress’s contact demands were higher than any other NBA team was willing to pay, so it wasn’t just the Hawks. That wasn’t the case for Gordon. Further, if the Hawks didn’t replace Childress with better talent, they would still have first refusal rights on bringing him back to the NBA., meaning that they never really lost him.The Bulls don’t have that. If the Bulls don’t get Wade or Johnson, they’re pretty screwed.

Besides, it’s not like the current guys are that great of a fit, either.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Nov 17, 2009 4:57 PM CST up reply actions

Josh Smith has been the surprise for me hes playing a lot smarter to me. Maybe give hope to those Tyrus fans out there.

by Camry on Nov 17, 2009 12:49 PM CST reply actions

He still won't be on the Bulls.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Nov 17, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah, he's finally stopped shooting threes. Good for him to figure it out, even if it took him forever.

by Illini15 on Nov 17, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions

Pistons ranked higher...

C’mon Hollinger, really?

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by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 17, 2009 3:59 PM CST reply actions

He does it based on a mathematical formula. He just sets it up. The numbers tell the story.

So it’s not like he just likes Detroit for no reason. The numbers say what they say and he’s been damned accurate in years past with his system.

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2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Nov 17, 2009 4:57 PM CST up reply actions

so I should un-send my profanity-laced email

calling him a HAT0R?!?!?!?

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 17, 2009 6:22 PM CST up reply actions

As a Hollinger hater I must say

There is something VERY WRONG with your formula when the Pistons are above the Pacers, the Blazers above the Suns and the Nets are not at the bottom…

by JustAnotherFan on Nov 18, 2009 5:27 AM CST up reply actions

I typically dislike the disproportionate amount of faith Hollinger puts into all his stats

but I will say that he nails it on the head a lot of times. I mean, didn’t his draft rater have Ty Lawson at #1 or #2? Also, I seem to remember his power rankings consistently having two teams at the top of the league last year and those same two teams happened to make it to the NBA Finals…

I wish I could hate on him more, but his stats do have a way of proving themselves a decent amount of the time. I don’t think anyone expects them to be perfect, do they?

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by Rose Colored Goggles on Nov 18, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions