Game Preview #10: Bulls at Sacramento Kings
by pookeyguru on Nov 17, 2009 6:17 AM CST
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[Thanks to enemy combatant pookeyguru for today's game preview. I'm not sure yet how the 9pm CST start times will throw off my recappin' game, but it likely will somewhat. -ed.]
Tonight is a battle of 2 teams at different paths in their journey. The Kings started out 1-3 before Kevin Martin was sidelined with a fractured left wrist, and subsequently had surgery, before winning the last 4 games to end up at 5-4. (None of this mentions that Francisco Garcia fractured his shooting wrist lifting weights on a physioball.) The Bulls have had their own fun share with injuries (Tyrus Thomas) so far, but have managed their own 5-4 start. I was told I could not make fun of Brad Miller writing this preview. (Boo!) However, it's clear Miller is happier in Chicago than he was in Sacramento at the end of his stay, and the early returns of Andres Nocioni in Sacramento have worked out pretty well all told. The stars of the Kings team are Tyreke Evans and Jason Thompson (especially since Kevin Martin went down), which makes this matchup more intriguing.
If I haven't lost you by now, see you after the jump. Also, I apologize for the length of this in advance.
Starting lineup's for the Bulls:
Derrick Rose
John Salmons
Joakim Noah
Taj Gibson
Starting lineup's for the Kings:
Tyreke Evans
Beno Udrih
Ime Udoka (subject to change if Noc plays)
Jason Thompson
Spencer Hawes
Andres Nocioni has been the starter at SF for Sacramento the last 5 games, but he suffered a hip pointer and is not expected to go tonight. UPDATE: Per Sam Amick's twitter said Donte Greene may start tonight.
By the numbers
In terms of Pace the Bulls are currently 18th, while the Kings are 12th. The Kings rank 24th in defensive efficiency, and the Bulls rank 8th. In Offensive efficiency, the Bulls rank 27th and the Kings rank 6th.(As such, I won't display the offensive and defensive 4 factors. If you wish, check them out here for both clubs.)
Rebounding, though, may surprise Bulls fans who expect the Kings to get killed on the boards tonight. The Kings are currently 2nd in offensive board%; 8th in defensive board%. Meanwhile the Bulls are 5th in ORB% and 14th in DRB%. If the Bulls are to win tonight, they will most likely need to control the backboards to secure a victory.
So why have the Kings won 4 in a row without Kevin Martin?
Several reasons. One is the improvement of Jason Thompson from last season. Yesterday, TZ had a good article on the very area's of where Jason had improved. Basically, he's a better offensive rebounder (by the numbers he's 3rd in the NBA), and an average defensive rebounder (still). He's turned the ball over less, racked up the assists, and the coaching staff will let him play through foul trouble. He gets to the foul line at a high rate too.
For the last 4 games: Tyreke Evans has averaged 23.8 points, 4.8 assists and 6.3 rebounds since Martin has went down. Jason Thompson has averaged 19.8 points, 2.3 assists and 11.5 boards. WaBeno Udrih has averaged 17.3 points, 4.3 assists and 3.3 boards.
On the year Evans has averaged: 16.6 points, 4.3 assists and 4.4 boards. Thompson has averaged 14.1 points, 2.9 assists and 10.1 boards. Udrih has averaged 13.5 points, 3.6 assists and 2.4 boards.
Also, Ime Udoka has been part of the rotation (Desmond Mason was waived to make room for Udoka) from the beginning of the 4 game win streak (10 days ago in Utah). In short, it's been an instance of better fit with role players (Udoka, Kenny Thomas instead of Sean May and Mason), and the other starters have played well so far in Martin's absence.
What are the marquee matchup's?
Well, in my mind, there are two.
The first matchup is Derrick Rose and Tyreke Evans. (Sort of.) In the past several games, Paul Westphal has generally asked Beno Udrih to guard Russell Westbrook and Aaron Brooks. (Westbrook was 3-13 from the floor. Brooks was 4-13 from the floor.) While I won't be deluded enough to tell you that Udrih is a great defensive guard, he has been better during this 4 game win streak than he his past would indicate. If that continues it could be a difficult night for the Bulls to score if Derrick Rose doesn't have it going. Then again, I'm not sure we'll watch the Rose and Evans head to head matchup transpire tonight.
It's more likely VDN will ask Rose to defend Udrih (as most teams have with their PG's) and has Salmons guard Evans defensively. Whichever team exploits these matchup's offensively could dictate a possible outcome.
The other matchup I'm looking forward to is Jason Thompson vs Joakim Noah. Noah at the moment is the current NBA's top rebounder (as I'm sure every Bulls fan knows) at 12.2 a game. Noah is 4th in offensive rebounds per game, and Thompson is 2nd. The difference between the two is that Noah grabs the 9th most defensive boards a game, while Thompson grabs the 44th. Whoever wins this battle of offense vs defense boards will win the game I suspect. More importantly, from a Kings POV, Thompson is going to be greatly tested with Noah's defensive abilities. Noah also blocks a couple of shots a game, and Hawes & Thompson get their shots swatted often enough to give Noah ample opportunity to do so. If Taj Gibson chooses to get his block a game, he will receive ample opportunities to do so. Since fouls are a big part of the problem Thompson has faced in the past, it's possible that foul trouble could limit either Noah or Thompson and swing the matchup into the team that exploits said foul trouble. (Since Noah doesn't have very high foul rates, I think this is definitely a bigger concern for Thompson.)
Keys to the game
1) Chicago must keep this game in the high 80's/low 90's to win; on the year the Kings are averaging 112 points in victories and 95 points in defeats.
2) Again, rebounding.
3) Offensively the Bulls must move the ball. The Kings have 2 very good defenders in Udoka and Kenny Thomas, and a bunch of below average to good defenders elsewhere. (Tyreke Evans and Spencer Hawes are the other 2 quality defenders the Kings have at the moment not named Udoka or Thomas. Everyone else ranges in quality.) The Kings can be both exposed, and scored on, by moving the ball, getting to the FT line and hitting shots from the perimeter. But, as every Bulls fan knows that's easier said than done. By the same token the Kings do not boast a very high TS% or eFG% themselves. The Kings are efficient offensively because they have not turned the ball over 20 times a night (mostly), and they grab a lot of offensive rebounds.
4) Forcing turnover's may be an important key to victory to the Bulls. Transition defense is not the Kings strong suit and getting easy buckets this way (as many as possible) could help the Bulls slow the pace down and play a half court game. When the Kings turn the ball over (and they have turned it over to any team that can force TO's--the Bulls are 10th in forced TOV%), they are far easier to beat. (Shocking, I know.) I don't think I'm going out on much of a limb when I say whichever team gets more easy hoops will probably win.
5) The X Factors for tonight's game are the 2 headed monster of Brad Miller/Taj Gibson and Spencer Hawes. Hawes first. While it's easy for anyone to assume Hawes has struggled (and he has shooting the ball), it's also true that Hawes defense and defensive rebounding have been critical for the Kings during their 4 game win streak. If Taj Gibson, or Brad Miller I would guess, are able to exploit Hawes defensively (on the interior with athleticism/finishing strong for Gibson; on the perimeter with shooting/passing/ball movement for Miller), this will be important to helping Chicago pull out a victory.
6) Ime Udoka and Omri Casspi are vital in terms of energy and disruption in fueling Sacramento's defensive attack. If Luol Deng can neutralize them by scoring the ball, particularly from the perimeter where Deng is likely to have many open looks if the Bulls can take advantage, this could be a major strength the Bulls can exploit all night. The Bulls best 3 offensive options (Rose, Deng and Miller) must score the ball well to help Chicago keep pace offensively in a game where offense vs defense is so critical.
7) I'm nearly 104% positive the Bulls don't want to run up & down with the Kings. (Or with anyone actually.) The Bulls play at a slow grind it out pace that generally dictates low shooting percentages, and scores to go along with it. If the Bulls are able to dictate that tempo and take advantage of opportunities, they will win. Conversely, the Kings play far more efficiently at a faster pace. If the Kings win the rebounding battle, and are able to run their offense efficiently, I think prevailing is a large possibility. (I take nothing for granted when the Kings starting lineup is less than 25 years of age on average.) Given that the Bulls are starting their Carnival trip tonight, and will be on the road for tne next 13 weeks (actually days--but I wonder if it feels like that to the players), it's a golden opportunity for both clubs.
With a win the Bulls can get a win to start that 6 game trip away from the UC. If the Kings win tonight they can continue their win streak and complete a perfect homestand. (I personally care about the perfect homestand. That hasn't happened, since, crap I can't remember the last time that happened. After checking, it was when Eric Musselman was still coaching. Yikes!) Oh, I recognize that VDN is not beloved in any Bulls fan circle, but I'll be willing to stack up Eric Musselman against any terrible coaching hire this decade.
For an opponent (or completely Kings centric) point of view hit up the 916 circus better known as Sactown Royalty. Thanks for reading, and good luck tonight.
Game will tip off at 9pm CST on WGN.
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I'm a little nervous about this one
The Kings are not that team that sucked last year anymore. But the Bulls need a W badly, because this could their only chance to do it in this circus trip (the games against Utah and Milwaukee are not impossible to win, but are very difficult at least). If Taj plays another game like Philly and JJ doesn’t step up and get some baskets, we’re screwed. With so short rotation, the Bulls will need every help they can get. So they better start playing nicely. Unfortunately, I believe we will see a lot of Pargo in this circus trip…
Jannero Pargo = Larry Hughes 2.0
what are the chances kobe sits out thursday with the strained groin?
without kobe our pau we’d at least have a chance against the lakers. lotta ifs tho…
i'm hot for teacher
Nah
The Lakers are still better than the Bulls and they play at home. So, if they’re in trouble, the refs will give them a little help
Jannero Pargo = Larry Hughes 2.0
the lakers are 27th in fta/fga. i doubt the refs are helping them.
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he no like be injured!
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by boyonthedock on Nov 17, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
I need a big game from Rose so all these haters can pipe down.
Not asking for 56 points or anything but just take care of the rock and ball.
Is Tyreke Evans better than Derrick Rose?
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
Is Donte Greene actually good?
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
From what I've seen of him, not really.
He’s basically … hmm. How to put this. Kind of like Ben Gordon in shot selection, only he doesn’t hit as often [so bleh]. He’s not strong enough to guard PF and not fast enough to guard SF, really.
[waits for pookeyguru to respond – I’m sure that’ll be more correct.]
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Does Green even play?
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by NBA Observer on Nov 17, 2009 1:49 PM CST up reply actions
He has NBA skills
He can hit the 3, the coaching staff thinks he’s a 2, and Donte has the best athleticism of any Kings player. Like a lot of really young players, he’s learning the league, isn’t the best ball handler in the world, and what not.
He’s a spot player in the rotation if only because he hasn’t learned all his lessons as a NBA player yet. If Noc is out, you’ll probably see enough of him simply because the Kings have Garcia, Martin and Noc out for this game.
But is Donte Greene actually good? He can defend 2’s, 3’s or 4’s (eventually) I’m very positive. The coaching staff, and Donte, are still figuring it out. While Donte isn’t an All-Star or anything, he is a guy who is trying to earn more minutes. Like any 21 year old kid, there will be high’s & low’s.
Long way of answering: Prevenge is right in a way; not in a way.
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Is Tyreke Evans a PG?
Is Derrick Rose?
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by Ozzie Montana on Nov 17, 2009 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
I have no idea about Evans. I always thought so.
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he has the ball alot, that qualifies for me
I’m thinking more and more that Dwayne Wade winning the NBA finals have made classic point guards less relevant.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 17, 2009 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
How about Danny Ainge & Dennis Johnson?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
They
were both interchangable at the point
by QUINTEN DALEY on Nov 17, 2009 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
Not to mention the 10 championships won by MJ and "Coby" Bryant without a star point guard.
I’m thinking more and more that Dwayne Wade winning the NBA finals have made classic point guards less relevant.
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Nov 17, 2009 6:01 PM CST up reply actions
Was Oscar Robertson a classic point?
He was a really big G who just got handles and got players involved. For chrissake Granny, Big O played F at Cincinnati. (As did Jerry West at West Virginia.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Sorry, not old enough to have watched Oscar or JW play.
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Nov 17, 2009 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
Well for tha matter...
Also all 6 bulls championship teams, all recent Laker championships and even the Spurs teams to a lessor degree than the other two. Still Parker isn’t so much a classic point guard. All these winning teams deviate from the classic point guards whatever this might prove/
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They fail to mention
That the kings schedule has been far easier opponent wise this year so far. Yes they have the same record, but the only really tough team they played was Atlanta, and lost. Golden State, Utah, etc, not much to get toooo exited about this year sac fans.
by Vohaul79 on Nov 17, 2009 12:27 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Houston isn't good?
Are you not smrt?
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
The Kings have also played San Antonio
Oklahoma City (twice), and Utah. Beating Utah was a biggie deal because it was Tyreke Evans first major blow up game (he had 32 & 7.). I agree up to a point that the Kings schedule isn’t that tough up to this point. At to what degree it’s even with Chicago? Don’t care. No NBA schedule will ever match up with another. No biggie.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Also, why is everyone so scared of the Bucks?
We already beat them, though we are supposed to be the underdogs? Is it the Brandon Jennings factor? Im lost at why people think the Bucks arn’t the underdogs in that one. We won the last one, therefor THEY should be the team WE should beat….Am I missing something here or what?
by Vohaul79 on Nov 17, 2009 12:30 PM CST via mobile reply actions
It's the Brandon Jennings factor.
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.
Psssssh.
Jennings isn’t gonna shoot like this all year, but he’s for real. And he just keeps working, which is a good sign that he’s going to get better.
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.
Salmons or Hinrich aren't gonna shoot like this all year either
oh wait, they might.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 17, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
lol!
Eh, Hinrich will regress to the mean, albeit on limited attempts. I’m pretty sure.
Salmons … who knows with that guy. The fish seems to be dying. We have to submerge him in water or something.
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and if he floats he's a witch.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 17, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions
waahhhhahahahahahah
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
That's what it was ...
I was trying to remember that reference, remembered something about a feather, and then gave up.
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.
Has to be the Bj factor.
We played poorly that night and still won. When I think Bucks I think, huh BJ is kicking ass, but cmon, they are a lower 1/2 eastern team…Flavor of the month due to BJ is probably right though, still they have a lot to prove against some real teams before everyone should get too high on their tits. Semi annoying.
by Vohaul79 on Nov 17, 2009 12:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
yes, as we learned by removing Gordon and seeing Rose blossom
having worse teammates always helps.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 17, 2009 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
Rose ain't a jump shooter, Jennings is
Rose depends on shooters right now. He’d kill to have Michael Redd on his team.
But Redd and Jennings? Isn’t that like two Gilberts?
No?
It’s like having to Gilberts if one was 6-7-ish and couldn’t dunk [just shooting baskets! Oh god he injures himself every time he dunks] and one was under 6 feet and had incredible vision.
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.
Jennings?
Yeah. He kinda does.
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.
You aren't a Brandon Jennings groupie yet are you?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I was a fan before the first game he played.
Am pretty much a groupie now. :P
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.
you know me...
I love gritty defense a la taking charges and slow pump fakes and drives.
So, no, I’m not a BJ3 groupie yet.
i can't envision michael redd on a good team
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by boyonthedock on Nov 17, 2009 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
I hope we roll Sac and the Bucks
Just to shut everyone up. Bulls arn’t great no, but in my mind we are better than those two teams. Only way we lose to them is if we dont show up (happens unfortunately) or they play out of their minds…
by Vohaul79 on Nov 17, 2009 12:37 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Do the Kings pretty much have a "future" lineup?
PG –
SG – Tyreke Evans – 16.2 PER – 20 y.o.
C – Spencer Hawes – 12.2 PER – 21 y.o.
PF – Jason Thompson – 21.6 PER – 23 y.o.
SF – Omri Casspi – 15.3 PER – 21 y.o.
That’s discounting the 26 and 27 y.o. Martin and Udrih. If Greene or Brockman ever turn into decent players….
Could you imagine trading Kevin Martin for a Top-5 pick and picking up Evan do-everything Turner to play SG? If only Noah had fallen to them to play Center.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
I hope no one still wants Hawes over Noah.
If only Noah had fallen to them to play Center.
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Nov 17, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
trading martin for pick
why would they trade him for a top 5 pick when they have the knicks top 5 pick?
They should trade martin for kurt heinrich, 1st round pick and tyrus thomas or something along those lines…Saves the kings some money probably and brings a shot blocker into the picture.
by Sambossanova on Nov 17, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
Unless
You want to see Pargo all season we cant do that.Ty maybe,We need hinrich for now we have no good depth at guard play
Lets cut
Pargo, and sign Rashard McCants, he’ll give us a lot better offensive lift off the bench, only problem, he is a poor man’s JR Smith, his attitude could be just as bad, but Jr is maturing, and I love to see that he is flurishing
by QUINTEN DALEY on Nov 17, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
they don't have the Knicks pick
that’s the Jazz.
Why trade Martin at all? Sam had a doozy in his latest column, that this recent run of Kings success means Martin is expendable. what the hell.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 17, 2009 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
I think it's the penultimate catch 22 Matt
If you’re going to trade Kevin Martin, it’s going to be for a lot of value. But, this is the third year running with a major injury (and 4 years out of 5) that will see K-Mart on the shelf for extended time.
I can’t decide if he’s brittle, or simply unlucky. Obviously I hope the latter. Either way, One of the reasons the Kings love Martin is because you can fit him around so many players.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
If he were on the Bulls, the organization would be calling him a panzy.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
by tyger1147 on Nov 17, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Key word: Bulls organization
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Oxymoron?
Bulls organization
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Nov 17, 2009 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
My apologies GW
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I agree with Pookey.
It depends on what you can get. If they continue to play this well without Martin (they won’t), then I question trying to put back in such a high-usage player. Granted, he’s not that much older than the other players (say, if he were 28 or 29) but that also means he has a lot of value. They could probably use him to shed Nocioni’s salary, too.
Let’s say they come in just under .500 w/ a team that starts 4 guys 23 and under. If Martin comes back, plays well, but they don’t play, say, above .500 (after all, Martin is that much better than Udrih, so they should), I think you’d look hard at trading him to a team like Utah, along with Nocioni, for say… Boozer and Harpring and their Knicks pick.. How does Sloan and Co. NOT go for that? And Sacramento would get a buttload of cap space this summer to throw at someone like Joe Johnson (cuz we know Wade or anyone else isn’t going there) while also having their pick of guards to draft. Considering we learned they wanted Noah but had to settle for Hawes, I’m pretty impressed with their recent drafting evaluations.
I could actually see Turner turning into someone like Joe Johnson.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
Not a Boozer fan myself
I don’t really think the Kings are looking to move Martin right now. I really dont tyger.
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Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I doubt they are, too.
Doesn’t mean I can’t speculate.
I don’t like Boozer, either. You’re not doing it for him. You’re doing it for the draft pick and the capspace. Sorry, I didn’t make that clearer.
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Oh okay
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I didn't realize they had that pick. You're right. They are set.
Wait. No, they don’t. Utah has that pick.
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Circus Trip
I got the Bulls 1-5 on this trip. It’s gonna be rough. D-Rose needs to learn how to D-up on the ball.
We don't have Larry Hughes anymore
How are we going to get to 3 wins?
12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.
by NBA Observer on Nov 17, 2009 1:55 PM CST up reply actions
actually sir,
im pretty sure this whole Larry Hughes thing is just a cultish joke, but go ahead and acually mourn his loss.
Green and Gold / Black and White
Hughes was a key to last year's circus trip as well.
Damn, exposed
Ozn was mostly right, but last year’s trip also featured Hughes complaining about his role just weeks after saying winning doesn’t matter.
12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.
by NBA Observer on Nov 17, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
tatoos and getting traded matters
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by boyonthedock on Nov 17, 2009 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
Dribble, dribble, dribble,
dribble, dribble, dribble, crossover, fadeaway jumper!
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.
catch the pass in the corner for the 3,
wait for the guy to rotate … wait … wait … fadeaway three!
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.
Somebody needs to get that guy
some sort of instructional shooting DVD.
by JockstrapNoah on Nov 17, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions
lol
I’ll assume you’ve read the [sadly deceased, but still up] blog of his devoted fans?
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.
Definitely
Sometimes if I’m bored I’ll go back and read it. I love the post where he gets traded to the bulls. (Or I love it now in retrospect, definitely not funny at the time)
by JockstrapNoah on Nov 17, 2009 5:25 PM CST up reply actions
I like the post where he's traded to the Knicks.
“Tag! You’re it!”
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.
hughes and duhon
my nightmare starting backcourt lol
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
I wanna say 4-2, but thats just me being a dedicated bulls fan
if they come out 3-3 on the circus trip, i would be satisfied. The LA Fakers will pose matchup nightmares for us. However, they have lost 2 straight, and kobe looks like he is not 100% physically, so other than them, the denver and portland will be the only real challenges…we should beat sac, utah and detroit… milwaukee might pose some problems, but defense is going to have to be on point to get past them. 4-2 hopefully, 3-3 realistically
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by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 17, 2009 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
You hate the lakers huh
Yep I dont like them as well,And boston (after that series overrated rondo, he is good but not as good as people is saying),And lebron (although I’ve gained some newfound respect for him)after he said that MJs number should be retired (although hes not the right guy to say it) still dont like him and his “crab dribble”.But yeah I say 3-3 or 2-4 4-2 would be nice.
Rondo is overrated because of that series?
I think another player got overrated much more after that series.
Overrated
becasue Rondo would not be nearly as good w/o the players he is surrounded by, he was headed toward busterdom before the Ray and KG trades
by QUINTEN DALEY on Nov 18, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
I think it's more 2-4 than 4-2
W – Sac and Utah or Milwaukee
L – LA, Denver, Portland and Utah or Milwaukee
Jannero Pargo = Larry Hughes 2.0
Yeah, don't forget he hit the game winner against Utah last year
(I still didn’t figure it out how he did that)
Jannero Pargo = Larry Hughes 2.0
Over/Under - Number of Deng/Noc man-hugs tonight
The Line is 2.5
by torch on Nov 17, 2009 2:37 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
over
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by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 17, 2009 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
Omri Casspi
How’s he been playing so far this season? I see the numbers, but has he been primarily a catch and shoot player? Or is he actually handling the ball, posting up, etc..
Nick Friedell: What's the biggest difference for you right now, compared to when you entered the league two years ago?
Joakim Noah: I would say eating breakfast.
nba.com has a good highlight of his first game.
Go here: http://www.nba.com/video/
choose teams, sacramento and go to Omri Casspi enters the NBA.
He makes a dribble here & there and attacks the basket. (At least he did. It may have been the only times all season he did those things.)
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
Am I the only one here wondering what was with the youtube video?
Year of the cat?
I don’t get it.
"When a hyper-intense guy looks for ways to fire himself up, yeah, it pretty much comes out as wild eyed psycho lunacy." - Jeff Clark from C's blog on KG
It's a song
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
It had no purpose
I’ve just listened to it like a 1000 times in the past 3 days and felt like including it.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
You should have had 'kids' in there.
That’s the song I’ve been listening to the last little while.
Downvoted because of not reading my mind. :(
I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.
Oh, O.K.
Just curious really. Good preview though.
"When a hyper-intense guy looks for ways to fire himself up, yeah, it pretty much comes out as wild eyed psycho lunacy." - Jeff Clark from C's blog on KG
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 17, 2009 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks
I know how long my stuff can get. (Trust me, I really tried to keep it as short as possible.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
You get a "rec" - excellent game preview
This is one on of the best game previews I have seen. It is so good I have nothing else to add.
I gotta admit it was tough writing a game preview for a different group of fans
On the other hand, I knew BaB could take it.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
speaking of wgn...
what is it with this WGN, and WGN America? I was born and raised in the windy city, but have been living in cali the last 20 years. I used to be able to watch all the bulls game when they were on wgn…..Now its WGN america, and they dont show every game shown on the local WGN….What kind of crap is that I get all excited bc the schedule will have WGN listed as one of the tv broadcasts, and then I flip to “wgn america” and they arent showing the game, but have on becker or americas funniest home videos or some other lame ass show…..THAT PISSES ME OFF TO NO END!!!! They need to go back to the old school days and show every game that is on wgn……ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! ok, im done ranting about that lol
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by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 17, 2009 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
That traces back 2 the early or mid 90s....
The Bulls lost a broadcasting dispute with the NBA. WGN (and I think TBS) were the only “local” stations that were carried nationally, so airing Bulls games was the equivalent of League Pass always airing the Bulls feed for free. Stern wasn’t having it.
"Some people want it to happen, some wish it would happen, others make it happen." - Michael Jordan
*He wasn't having it b/c non-Chicago people were watching the MJ title teams for free
"Some people want it to happen, some wish it would happen, others make it happen." - Michael Jordan
damn.
I always knew stern was a douchebag…thanks for that tidbit of info!
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by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 17, 2009 7:27 PM CST up reply actions
It’s going to come down to closing, our defense has shown it can keep and get us into any game. We just have to close in the 4th or capitalize on mistakes our d will force.
Hitting some open shots never hurts though.
i agree completely, but the prob is
we dont have a closer!!!! Nobody wants the ball at the end of close games. Every1 is looking for some1 else to score. And i dont know if its a lack of confidence, or they are over passing, but they need a designated ‘go to guy’ and Im hoping some1 will step up into that role real soon, or we will have problems
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by chi_till_eye_die on Nov 17, 2009 6:13 PM CST up reply actions
You win!!!
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
Great preview!
..and great song choice too!
by bullsfaninbigapple on Nov 17, 2009 8:55 PM CST reply actions
Man, even your song choice is loooooong.
haha
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