I haven’t paid attention to New Orleans so far this year (or many other teams than the Bulls, actually). Still, Diogu is what? 2 or 3 or 4 wins over the course of a season over a shitty player?

Coaches matter, and I guess you did say you agreed “to a degree” which I guess is what I implied by saying “far greater” instead of saying complete impact of GM’s compared to no impact from coaches, for instance….

Both affect the outcomes of the game, but the hand one is dealt is far more important than the way the hand is played.

Or more exciting but maybe not as good (I agree it’s debatable).

Chris Paul and Amare Stoudamire.

Yowzers.

Is it at all possible, assuming the Hornets make the Bulls take back at least one bad contract, that the Bulls could trade for Paul and have $34,000,000 in cap space this summer? I would give up anything for that chance. Really. Give me Paul and nothing else and just the chance to sign Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh or, hell, even Joe Johnson and Amare Stoudamire.

If you don’t get ANY of them, you hope that you can keep Paul happy enough that he’ll stick around because he’s definitely young enough to be great for another rebuilding effort.

ANYONE!

To the Bulls:
Chris Paul
Chris Bosh
Steve Blake
Travis Outlaw

To the Hornets:
Derrick Rose
Luol Deng

To the Raptors:
Tyrus Thomas
Joakim Noah
Jerome James
Mo Peterson

To the Blazers:
Kirk Hinrich

Rosters for this season:
Bulls
Paul – Blake
Salmons – Pargo
Outlaw – James Johnson
Gibson
Bosh – Miller

Hornets:
Rose
____
Deng
West
Okafor

Raptors
Calderon
Peterson
Turkoglu
Bargnani – Thomas
Noah

Portland:
+ Hinrich
- Blake & Outlaw

I forgot Jerome James to the Raptors. I think they’d do that, because having Bargnani, Thomas and Noah would seem to be the best situation possible post-Bosh and they could deal from a strength. And they’d only have to pay 20% of half a season of James’s salary, too.

The Bulls would have thin but okay roster this year. They’d do it if only they could find a way to still get a MAX or near-max guy for next season. If Asik is any good, having Bosh, Gibson and Asik doesn’t seem too too terrible. I could suffer James Johnson for year a until they could get a vet to come fill it an SF. Paul, Wade and Bosh on the same team, though… wow.

going to come to a club with players like Rose or Paul that dominate the ball?

I know a lot of NBA analysts poo poo Wade coming to play with Rose, but I see it working well. However, Wade and Paul sounds questionable. Paul creates everything. Can Wade play off that?

Deng is our roadblock. NBA contenders have to have a SG and SF that can either make threes or get to the line whenever they want.

i see him as a rich mans devin harris, and thats something pretty awesome…i think he can be a mini lebron if he meets his pottential, but cp3…but chris paul is like the jordan of pgs…hes a clear upgrade…we as bulls fans are hoping that rose can meet cp3s abilitly one day, instead of hoping our guys turns into that guy, why not just get “that guy”?

Although i dont think NO ever gives up chris paul, not for rose, not for d. Will, hell nothing short of lebron, and even then i could see them hesitate a bit…

i cant remember where the comment was located but i agreed with the idea…it was the concept that luols shot is a bit flatter and the mechanics of that shot work from a certain range, in order for deng to shoot from the 3pt line he would probably have to tweak his shot a bit, and thats not something thats always easy to do.

I have two friends who pretty much had the same problem, a foot inside the 3pt line they were pretty much money, a step back and they were building houses. It took the first one an entire summer to change his shot a bit so that he shot with a greater arch but it worked for him, while it took my other friend a week to change his shot, and he completely reworked it. The thing is neither of them was in a league (at the time) and could afford to test the shot and fail. The guy who reworked his shot can hit 3s but only when wide open now, his shot is released lower and easier to block or just straight up challenge…a guy like deng has far less options to change his shot especially during the season….

He fixed it last season so it is curable.

Deng is pretty equivalent to West
Noah is pretty equivalent to Chandler

We might prefer our guys, but what I’m saying is they’re not orders of magnitude better. In terms of capability and style of play, they’re about the same.

Salmons is somewhere between Posey and MoPete.

I don’t have faith in Tyrus or Hinrich to really be game changers. In the end, it’s a similar team to the better version of the Hornets we saw a couple years ago.

That’s good, but my guess is that the East is going to see something go down this summer where two of Wade, Bosh and Lebron end up on the same team.

That’s the sort of combination we need to be figuring out how to beat.

I’m surprised we haven’t seen Derrick gel with our bigs around the rim yet. I thought we’d be there by now.

We still need legit 3pt threats that can play defense to make Paul really efficient and picking up victories.

then the CP3-Rose swap is assumed as actually being a deal on the table. The question is, with that deal hypothetically on the table, would you hypothetically do it? If hypothetical Dwyane Wade was openly talking about how great it would be to play in Chicago instead of saying how much he loves Miami, then there should be some pause. Otherwise, you would be a fool to turn down that deal. You can rebuild around Paul over time, but it’s highly unlikely you’d have a chance at acquiring that level of talent again.

“You will respect me as a man.”

What the hell does that mean? Chris Paul is a good basketball player, but I don’t know if he’s got the goods to desire rings.

What would Mike do? Chris Paul should have a chat with Jerry Stackhouse to figure out respect works in the NBA.

Actually, I don’t think they’re surviving in New Orleans in any case.

im not against getting amare…noah makes us extremely flexible, we really just need a guy who can score at a superstar level….Mr. Rythm mentioned how amare was a good rebounder, and was describing amare to be an okay defender…..neither which is true. The case of amare vs bosh isnt as clear cut as some people imagine, amare isnt heads and shoulders above bosh in anyway. Amare can score better, ill give him that, but bosh is the better defender and rebounder, bosh also possess real leadership qualities, he doesnt mind being a leader or the focal point of an organization whereas amare has publically spoken about how he isnt a captain and its not his place to lead a team. Neither are true post players, but bosh isnt more because of how skinny and relatively weak he is.

Take the toronto game for example, bosh was trying to post up noah because last year and the year before that, he was able to, noah was always weaker than bosh and had less stamina. However, noahs beastiness this year prevented bosh from succeeding. Amare and bosh are both inclined to shoot jumpers, but amare often does try to avoid bodying anyone up, maybe its a psch effect from the injuries hes had, but he is content on getting around guys or shooting over them, as opposed to banging in the post…that said, amare is really good at doing all of this, which is the big reason he is such a good scorer, and although he tries to avoid physical situations, if he finds himself in one, he doesnt shy away, he goes in strong and scores…but he does try to avoid those situations.

Bosh posts up alot more, but he is a face up finesse post scorer. He takes low post position because he cant bang anyone in, he has good footwork, so he can spin his way around guys, and has good lower body strength so he can get up and dunk the ball when close to the rim. bosh as a jump shooter is also better than amare id say, his range extends up to the 3pt line, his face up game is very similar to kg in terms of range and efficiency. On the defensive end bosh is sound however he tends to take plays off sometimes, especially on the defensive boards, but on the offensive boards he is pretty active. Amare isnt a good rebounder despite his size and athleticism, and aside from the helpside blocks that he occasionally gets, his defensive ability is non existant.

Both are good players, all-stars for sures, and because of how young they are, they can definetly become better and be true superstars and i would be happy with either one of them….that said…wade IS a true superstar, and can single handidly lead a horrible team to victory, put him on the bulls (we have a greater need for a sg right now, then a post presence) and the future is really really bright…