Add him to another enticing player a FA might wanna come play alongside

And Brads’ shot was not good as much as I hate to admit it

I had fun watching this game too….Fun that I havnt felt from the bulls, prob since the playoffs last year. I keep telling the fans on here to relish the fact that we held a great player to 8-22 shooting, and played D for almost 48 min….Tough loss to swallow, but like i said, Id rather lose like this, with effort and fight, than by 20+ A shining star in this dim loss is THE MAN IN THE MIDDLE……..J.NOAH…Im thoroughly impressed with this guys effort and heart…..with any luck, this will spread throughout the locker room and make every1 else produce much better! GO BULLS!!!!!!

That’s a HUGE reason of why the Bulls have been so good on that end. He’s played both LeBron and Carmelo about as well as you can possibly play them one on one. And him and Noah seem to be communicating really well on D, as there were multiple times where they completely caved in together on Anthony and stuffed the shit out of him in the lane. It was awesome to watch.

http://www.wgntv.com/videobeta/watch/?watch=f80ddedd-0637-4b22-ae22-590f5e12357b&src=front

that with Tyrus taking those end of the bench scrub minutes this game would have been in the bag.

I can’t help but be excited about our interior defense (aka noah and deng with a side of taj)

it’s been suspect against most of the teams we have played so far, but shutting down the nuggets was a validating factor to be sure.

Of course we could have used gordon’s shot’s but fish played great outside defense.

let’s see what a non gimpy rose and a rotation with tyrus gets us.

we took the garnet less celts to 7 games last spring. we can take a lot more of the middling teams we face this year with this squad

I thought Kirk HInirch was the story of the game. 0-5 from downtown. 3-10. 26 minutes. 6 pts. thats your Captain. At least Salmons made some big threes. KIRK YOU NEED TO DRIVE TO THE BASKET! Your shot sucks.

I know this is going to sound lame but I still don’t get why they didn’t keep Byars around because the Bulls guard play has been awful. If it wasn’t for Noah’s rebounding this would be a pretty sad team. I think they might need to look for help or make some kind of trade.

Derrick Rose YOU NEED TO PENETRATE AND BREAK DOWN THE DEFENSE. Although I thought Denver did a good job.

Matt whats up with JJ did he look as lost as he did on TV?

Why don’t the Bulls post Deng more late in games like they did in Miami? Or just post him up period?

I love noah, and he is still developing, BUT without a big in the middle who has a post game, and who might demand a double team, we will always be a jump shooting team. And like its always been for us, live by the J, die by the J…Once we get a big in the middle with post moves and requires a double team, he will either make his move, score or get fouled, OR dish out to the open man who then will have an open Jumper. Plain and simple, inside outside basketball. As long as we have no inside THREAT, we will always have to rely on players making their own shots, and outside of Rose, we dont have any1 who can do that. Get a post up player with moves who demands a double team, and watch the bulls schooting percentage go thru the roof…..Trust me on this 1

Is that Tyrus on the far right? Definitely looks like a dinosaur about to eat someone. And JJ looks like he’s trying to give Brad the mandible claw.

with this team by the day. I hate to use this word, but it appears that the Bulls once again have a really nice “core” to build around in Noah, Deng and Rose. I was very skeptical of Luol (mostly health related), but he’s changed my mind. I now think that if he can maintain that type of defense and rebounding, he’s practically worth it right there. But he’s been solid offensively as well. Just please stay healthy, pretty please?

Rose has simply gotta get better. I know this was probably his best game, but if his idea of “aggression” has become shooting mid range jumpshots then his career is not heading in the right direction. Scoring only 22 points when he hit 10 of 17 isn’t gonna cut it. He just seems to lack aggression on the offensive end. More assists would be nice too…

"As soon as I saw the flight of the ball, I knew it was good," Billups said. "Then, I was sitting and laughing. Not so much about the shot, but looking at their reaction. They were dancing and jumping around like they had just made the Sweet 16. The longer it took, the better I felt. It was a great ending."

WHAT A PRICK THING TO SAY.

I know he is the PG and has the mentality of being a passer to assist his team, but its time he learned when and how to take over games. Once he gets the fire of “look, you guys arent making shots, I’m taking over this game alone”, thats when the true beast which is D Rose will emerge and every1 will be on his nuts. Learn to take over a game, learn when to do that. This is key for him developing into the monster he has the potential to be

and resign Tyrus to a reasonable contract. Gar.

If Salmons, Hinrich and Pargo continue to suck then they might need to look in the D-League for someone who can make threes.

I wonder if they regret cutting Byars? He wasn’t a savior but I thought he was good for Derrick Rose because he could stretch the floor and hit the open three. Also he was tall and athletic. I still don’t understand that move. I guess money. This guard play is awful.

what a joy it is to see this team lock down on d in the fourth quarter. last year i felt like it was a foregone conclusion that the opposing team would score on every big possession late in the game, and that we were going to have to hope for a big shot from bg to keep us in it. its too bad we’ve traded in that shot-making ability, but man is it AWESOME to see our bigs + deng make one huge stop after another.

one other thing about noah i haven’t seen mention is that he played the last four minutes or so with five fouls and played huge down the stretch without fouling out. i was definitely holding my breath when he got that fifth one.

is there such a thing as a moral victory in basketball?

I think we will be ok as long as players, PRO players, hit their open shots. The glaring problem I see, and its been there since about oh, 2003, is that we dont have a post player who can score inside. Thats the point of concern, or should be, in drafting or trading for some1…..get a big who can post and score inside, we will instantly become a contender

the call based on not being enough evidence to overturn the initial call on the floor?

because I believe it’s one of Newton’s laws of physics that Brad Miller cannot catch and shoot a basketball in 0.3 seconds.

:D that’s funny

When was the last 5 second call you saw called in the NBA? The one on Melo was the second 5 second call I have ever seen in the NBA.

But I guess he got it back by tripping Luol Deng who is within reach of saving the ball yet one leg gets tugged by a ghost behind him and no ref sees it.

But it’s becoming obvious that the Bulls can’t score in the last minutes of the game. Not even FT. I don’t know if they’re nervous or whatever, they just can’t get a basket. The Bulls could’ve won yesterday’s game before those last 0.6, when Billups got to the line

I think it devalues the entertainment of watching the sport (which is all it is).

COUNTER ARGUMENT

It’s certainly possible that the referees would have ruled Brad Miller’s shot no good when it occured if they knew they wouldn’t have the crutch of replay, because I believe it’s one of Newton’s laws of physics that Brad Miller cannot catch and shoot a basketball in 0.3 seconds.
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But honestly, we got to jump around and high-five like idiots (as did the Bulls) when Miller hit the shot, so we got that winning feeling, if only for a short time. That was fun.

Even if the fan should only care about the entertainment value, the livelihood of the players and coaches and organizations are certainly affected by even a single point difference. Although I do understand that you were just saying you didn’t like it, not that you thought they should take it away.

the refs didn’t use the multiple replays to get the clock right. i’m talking about well before the Brad shot. between Chauncey’s baseline drive that resulted in the Bulls knocking it outta bounds and the Noah rebound after Billups’ 2nd FT, they consulted the replay monitor for about 8 or 9 minutes.

my immediate reaction after Billups’ initial drive was that there should be more than 4.6 left on the clock. and then with the Noah thing, I honestly never knew the coach could approach the ref before that situation and sort of “pre-call” the timeout, but if that’s the case, how do 0.3 seconds elapse in that situation? if the clock isn’t supposed to start until it’s touched by a player, i find it hard to believe that they could rule that more than 0.1 or 0.2 seconds could be taken off the clock, cuz that replay showed that there was probably 0.5 left when Noah secured that rebound.

thoughts on this?

We played the way we wanted to play. We played the way we have to play to win. We came up short, but we came up short because of factors that we can correct or that are not likely to occur again. Deng missing two free throws comes to mind and Noah rotating out to the 3 pt line in the final seconds to guard Nene.

The test this week was to see what this team against a high powered offense that wants to run at the United Center and against a high powered offense on the road in Toronto. So far we’ve forced the Nuggets play our tempo and we boxed in Melo for 8-22 shooting and just 3 fta. The defense from Deng was just terrific. When Melo managed to get by him he stuck with it and had Noah on the help. They challenged every single shot. The only easy shot Melo got off all night were against Kirk.

remember last year or the year before when there was something about shaq in miami playing against atlanta. they had to go back and play out some time in the game or something?? not clear on the details.. and i know we don’t have shaq, or kobe, or james on our team for stern or whoever to look at this again. but when what happened was completely in violation of the NBA rule book, you would think that they might want to correct it..

check out page 51… section III

“Then, I was sitting and laughing. Not so much about the shot, but looking at their reaction. They were dancing and jumping around like they had just made the Sweet 16. The longer it took, the better I felt. It was a great ending.”

-Billups

Yeah, well, fuck you.

some fans are still trying to get that call changed huh….man, it was one loss, whats the big deal, i could see all this hoopla if it cost us advancing to the 2nd round, or a finals spot, but it was only a game, early in the season, relax ppl

they had the VP of the refs on… he said that there was clear evidence of the ball in his hands..

So if the Bulls go down tonight and Orlando takes care of business maybe not too much ground is lost?

if nobody signs up to do one!

thus the basket should be good.

“As soon as I saw the flight of the ball, I knew it was good,” Billups said. “Then, I was sitting and laughing. Not so much about the shot, but looking at their reaction. They were dancing and jumping around like they had just made the Sweet 16. The longer it took, the better I felt. It was a great ending.”

seemed better in that there was no digital strobe effect (not sure if this is the correct technical term). but it was also the furthest away, by a good margin. all other angles showed: 0.1 sec, ball in miller’s hand. next frame: 0.0 sec, ball clear of miller’s fingertips (or likely clear, if his left hand happened to block the view, for example).

it is curious to me that the officials would choose the one angle from furthest away that shows a bulls loss over all the others that showed a bulls win. i’m also curious about that frame by frame “discontinuity”, i.e., why did the distant overhead one lack it, seeming more “analog”, for lack of better term. i know there’s no such in video as “frame-less”, like in analog audio. it would be great to get some input from a broadcast/video tech.

i also wonder if an incorrect assumption wasn’t made on that overhead view. i believe you couldn’t expect to see space between his fingers and the ball until a short time after they’re actually clear, because his fingers might be blocking it from that angle and the diameter of the ball and length of the fingers work against the bulls cause. (try making a shooting motion on a 22 ft shot. the wrist and fingers extend a lot in the same direction as the ball…)