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Bulls win thriller in London, rookies impress those with little expectations (i.e. me)

I hope this was called a foul. (AP Photo / Tom Hevezi)

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As preseason games go, that was a fun one to watch. The crowd was late-arriving but very into the game (as KC Johnson noted, they were ooohing and ahhing the most routine of NBA action), and the close back-and-forth score kept them into it. It was nice that they got the excitement of a buzzer-beater, even if it was in a meaningless contest.

(OK, maybe the announcers on NBATV were terrible, what with Steve Smith yelling at us to appreciate Taj Gibson and whoever the play-by-play-guy-was mispronouncing nearly every name (luOWL) and giving the all-to-rare 3...2...1... countdown a minute early. )

First some notes on the top-7 (3 of them out) that were encouraging all around. Noah just looks great, and if he starts this season like he ended the last it's going to be a breakout year for him. He was active all over, and SLC Dunk remarked Noah "looked like he was swatting 6th graders". Miller already was giving out hard fouls, and hitting jump shots. Hinrich was great, finishing perfect from the field. There's no doubt he played great to end last season, I just worry that his 40% 3-point seasons are the outliers. But if he bucks that trend he'll be incredibly valuable in any role he plays this season. Though hopefully there aren't many instances where he has to play point the whole game because Rose is hurt.

Luol Deng was able to thrill his hometown crowd with a solid game, and just like in the opener it was just nice to see him playing without a broken leg. What was different than the opener was Luol showing something different, a couple of post-up plays. If he can use it to exploit certain matchups, it'd be a nice complement to his game. I'm not sure he'll ever be able to dribble-drive by many defenders. He hit a three-pointer in this game as well, the other thing we all wish Luol could do more often. Though as Bulls by the Horns notes, it's worrisome that Deng still mentions soreness in the leg. Wasn't that injury in the spring? I'd almost rather he lied at this point and said everything was fine...though there was a point where a dunk was instead a blocked layup, which could've been the leg. 

Now on to the rookies, with James Johnson being the hero and Taj Gibson giving a second-straight 'I may not stink after all' performance. If Taj can get to the point where we don't scream when he comes into the game for his handful of minutes, that's good enough value for that pick. It'll also be interesting to see how it effects the minutes of Tyrus Thomas, and any reduction in Thomas minutes will mean something bad has happened. Either he's playing like crud, or the Bulls really really don't want to pay him this summer. It may be an issue all season whether Taj is yet another Bull who's consistent competence is valued more than possible greatness (or above-averageness).

James Johnson is a trickier guy to peg in this year's rotation. He was able to flourish in this half-hazard 4th quarter in transition, but he won't be able to dominate the ball in the regular season (unless Deng is hurt again, yikes). Can he be useful away from the ball? At least he showed, like Gibson, that he's active, and as much as I like Tyrus Thomas I think Johnson ran the floor faster than I ever saw Thomas. Johnson also has shown more handle and a prettier shot, but that could just mean he's really meant to be a 3. 

I actually didn't think Jannero Pargo was too awful, despite being the only Bull who didn't shoot well Tuesday. He just doesn't need to play in meaningful lineups, is all, because he will shoot regardless of who's on the floor with him. I actually liked him chucking in the first half since he was in a srubby lineup, and does have the innate skill to create shots (if not makes). But if he's in there in 3-guard 4th quarter lineups because of some clutch ability that doesn't exist (at least not with him), that's not good. 

Chris Richard was definitely bad. Byers was a bit better (nice put-back dunk), and is still leading in the 'which camp invitee should stay' contest. 

A great performance all-around. It's not necessarily meaningful that the preseason performance is good, but it's preferred over a poor-looking performance. The top-7 has been real solid. If other players step up to warrant minutes, that's a good problem to have, right?

(So why am I worried that  they'll instead ruin a Vinny-proof rotation, with pressure from the Org. to push certain guys (Tyrus) out the door? I'm kidding, the Org. never has direction enough to dictate playing time.)

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thanks for the great recap...

Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.

-- Scottie Pippen

by Orlando Woolridge on Oct 8, 2009 1:05 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Your observations mirrored mine. Is that good or bad for you?

As a fellow member of the Tyrus Thomas Tinfoil Hat Conspiracy Club, I too worry that management will deliberately undermine him by inflating the contributions of our new additions at his expense as a justification for pulling another Gordonesque move to avoid paying big bucks to a question mark.

Repeating some of my game comments, the energy the rookies displayed was impressive and their hustle should hopefully light a fire under Tyrus and rub off to reduce his tendency to drift into la la land at times with the added competition, especially when it comes to crashing the boards and settling for too many jumpers. With management already seemingly looking for reasons (some valid) to dump him, he needs to mature and develop a major attitude adjustment by demonstrating similar consistent efforts, or else once again have his court time reduced regardless of his superior skill potential.

In the real world, Taj should pose no immediate threat to my favorite manchild despite the obsessive overhyping by Steve Smith as evidenced by his stat line during 33 minutes of action: 4 of 8 from the field, 2 of 4 FT, 5 boards, zero assists, a steal, 2 blocks, 4 TO’s before fouling out. If TT posted similar numbers, his detractors would complain about his lack of rebounding, missed free throws, turnovers and stupid fouls.

Johnson was much more impressive showing both quickness and court awareness, well suited to a 3. In 28 minutes he hit 5 of 12 FG including a 3 pointer, 7 of 7 from the line, and added 2 assists, a steal, 2 nice blocks, and the big hustle rebound among his team leading 8 which allowed hm to toss up a rainbow game winner with 0.1 ticks left on the clock. His negatives were 4 turnovers and 5 fouls. With experience, JJ could be a solid contributor and provide crucial rest for both Luol and Salmons during the course of the season.

As stated earlier, with a rejuvinated Noah, and a more experienced Rose leading the way along with having the luxury of both Miller and Salmons for an entire season, and healthy Kurt the Bulls could surprise. Will this be the year for a breakout of a motivated Thomas whose performance will force management to resign him or will he pout his way off the roster and the Bulls will once again have to settle for mere competence until the magic superstar is finally signed in 010? Will this be the year Vinny can finally take off the training wheels and demonstrate he really does belong? As Mike Ditka once said “if if’s ands and buts were candy and nuts………” Only time will tell so let the games begin. But please, please retire LIndsey Hunters number and hide his jock. Fire Benny the Bull and give him the job as the Bulls number one cheerleader, but Dear God, keep his sorry old ass off the court. And while your’e at it Lord, can you give Tyrus a brain and don’t forget to add some gray matter to the cerebellum of our cousin Vinny. If you do that, I’ll light a candle every Sunday for the entire season. Amen.

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by Tyrusmancrush on Oct 8, 2009 1:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

sometimes the new toy is fun

to play with because it is new. Even if the old toy has more potential for fun. The thing is, newness wares off. Don’t worry, Taj is a backup and the bulls drafted him as such. I’ll be thrilled if he can be an 8th man, which early results say that he has the potential to be…

Now Blair might have pushed Tyrus! Why they didn’t take a risk in hitting a home run there, I have no idea.

by 72-10 on Oct 8, 2009 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmmmm

Sounds like Stage 3-Barganing.

“If ifs and buts…” Dandy Don on MNF.

magic superstar or Magic superstar.

by hlac on Oct 8, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I finally got to watch the game

…thank you davka (arrrr)

The bulls should thank nba observer for lettting them use his court (i knew it was his when i saw the giant NBAO logo at center court)

I read the comments in the game thread, and when i watched the game, i wasnt too disgusted with pargo (much like yfbb) he definetly proved that he can be a threat from the 3pt arch and at the very least can pull defenses away from when he does get time to play.

Luol WAS AWESOME, he looked alot healthier, his midrange was dead on, and i also liked the post moves. THey seemed more fluid as opposed to the ones he pulled in the past, there was even a jordan esque post up fallaway i was digging. Crossing my fingers he stays healthy, cuz man he can be a great weapon.

Kirk is my favorite player….

I like Byars, he is like something in between thabo and larry huges…okay thats probably stretching it, but he is a tall two guard, he didnt look like anything stellar on either side of the court, but he definetly can handle the ball like hughes did (as opposed to thabo) and his defense may not be thabo esque, he does hustle on that end of the floor, and even on offense (the put back really was nice…) for a guy who is really going to get spot minutes anyway, i rather have an extra tall guard (just in case) as opposed to another worthless big.

James Johnson has moves, he is a project but unlike tyrus thomas, he actually is starting out with alot of actual basketball skills. Tyrus’ length and athleticism still makes him the better natural player, but James Johnson just looks like a guy who could contribute, and ultimately i see him in a noch type role in the future (a sf/pf) hes got great ball handling skills, and if he worked on his shot a little, man he really could be a poor mans paul pierce.

Ultimately im digging the bulls…If everyone stays healthy…..it could be exciting…

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Oct 8, 2009 1:48 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No he was not AWESOME!!!

LeBron James is awesome. Dwyane Wade is awesome. Luol Deng had a nice game…and lets hope he continues to have nice games like the one he had over in London.

But man I swear, this is the source of some of what has soured me on Deng these last few years. NOTHING about Deng is AWESOME!! He doesn’t do one thing great. He does a lot of good things, but so do many guys in the league…yet folks make comments like yours that kind of make Deng seem like more than what he really is. Not trying to say he didn’t play a good game, but it simply wasn’t, as you put it, AWESOME!!

by lexdiamonds0730 on Oct 8, 2009 3:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

AWESOME analysis

Deng isn’t paid like LeBrone or Wade so he’s awe inspiring,

by Noe_Valley on Oct 9, 2009 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im already lovin our rookies, just like when i used to like josh howard and marquis daniels

when i was still rootin for dallas back on the van exel, nash, and lafrentz days. They have been suprisingly good thus far. There is a sense of winning and confidence within the team and this could be a special season for us Bulls junkies.

D ROSE D WADE DESTINY DYNASTY

by Juan dela Cruz on Oct 8, 2009 4:01 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Tay on AK47 / photo

There was no foul called on that play and even tough the picture suggests otherwise, there was hardly any contact – I sat quite close to that hoop :D

by DerMotz on Oct 8, 2009 4:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If the lack of contact is true...

…I guess that just demonstrates why Kirilenko is such a good shotblocker.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Oct 8, 2009 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, he can hit people in their face while not hitting them.

It’s like the equivalent of Schroedinger’s cat, but with arms, WHILE YOU’RE WATCHING.

I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]

by Prevenge on Oct 8, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Pargo was fine as well. He didn't really jack shots during the periods where he had

NBA caliber scorers on the floor. The game really brought home to me why Pargo needed to be the guy, instead of a Luther Head or a McCants. The team need more than simply a 4th guard that could shoot the 3. They needed a guy who could backup the point for 10-15 min/g if Rose or Hinrich miss a week or two with injury. And that guy backing up the point need to be able to create their own shot from that position as well as shoot the 3 given the makeup of the rest of the roster. That’s not McCants or Head or just about anybody else that out there this summer. Pargo is relatively unique in that respective. I was never really upset with the signing, although Bulls management stated rational that they signed Pargo because they already knew him sucked, but it makes sense to me now. Pargo’s a replacement level player like everybody else, and he did fit the team needs better than the other guys out there.

by Scotter on Oct 8, 2009 5:55 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I don't remember him being that competent of a PG

lets just hope it doesn’t come to needing him there because Rose or Hinrich are out.

Though if he’s the emergency PG, why the heck is Hunter here?

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 8, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's not that competent, but he can actually play the positon unlike

McCants and Head.

Hunter is on the roster because an NBA minimum player makes more than a rookie assistant coach. And the Bulls don’t care because the NBA picks up almost Hunter’s entire salary. Pargo is replacement level, Hunter isn’t close to even that at this point. And Hunter coaching in a uniform probably is a better deal than having him sitting behind on the bench. There’s always a wall to some degree between players and coaches. Anything that has any chance at helping Derrick get better on defense is fine by me.

by Scotter on Oct 8, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do think that principle is interesting

maybe they won’t respect Hunter if he’s a coach. You’d think they’d know well enough that the old man can’t play anymore, but I can’t pretend to get that general dynamic.

There has to be some minimum guy who can play point yet shoot a 3. I suppose my biggest concern with the Pargo signing is that based on his lost season in Europe one could assume he wasn’t even replacement level anymore. But he did show it in his one preseason game.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 8, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

do you see how the bench goes wild anytime Hunter makes a play?

they are well on their way to knowing the old man can’t play anymore. They cheer like college players cheer for walk-ons when they score.

by Basketball Smurf on Oct 8, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it is about respect, but more in the positive sense of players respecting veteran players.

It’s also about trust, and knowing that what’s said between players stays that way. It’s documented in education that students often learn better from instruction by other students teaching than instruction from the teacher even if the students doing the instruction don’t present the material as well as or know the material as well as the teacher.

by Scotter on Oct 8, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hunter is there for the

NBA Finals experience.

Can I flag myself?

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Oct 8, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Also, McCants is reportedly a nutcase

and is still unsigned.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 8, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Houston was going to sign him, apparently because of his great APM.

They may be the only team where APM trumps being a nutcase, but he showed up with an abdominal injury and they sent him packing right away.

by Scotter on Oct 8, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They let Ron Ron and his huge APM go to sign the mediocre (by APM) Trevor Ariza.

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Oct 8, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well....he did cross someone over last game.

Doesn’t that make him worth keeping around?

by Stacey_Is_King on Oct 8, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's the signing that really doesn't make sense is Hunter

Pargo I can deal with. Hunter should not be playing anymore.

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by bigballa10 on Oct 8, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and re: the rationale

that really shouldn’t bother me anymore, now that I’m pretty certain Gar is full of crap. I guess it bothers me that he is full of crap, but the individual instances of his crap-talk shouldn’t.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 8, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thomas needs to drive and slash

NOT SHOOT!!

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Oct 8, 2009 7:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay... James Johnson as PF.

Luol Deng as PF.
Taj Gibson as PF.
Tyrus Thomas as PF.

Frankie Dingbottom as SF.
Paul Howzatgoen as SF.

I see the logic of you, Bulls fans. I get you!

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Oct 8, 2009 9:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

don't forget Noah.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 8, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah. He's too skinny to be a starting C in the NBA.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Oct 8, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Derrick Rose has the athleticism to be PF!

He could be like LeBron James at PF.

I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]

by Prevenge on Oct 8, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A few observations

Noah is picking up right where he left off and then some. He looks ready to go from the start this year which will make a big difference.

Deng looks good. He looks stronger and he’s been running the floor hard when out there so his leg doesn’t seem to be an issue so far. I’d like to say less really long contested jumpers still and more slashing. He was making them in London but I wasn’t thrilled with a couple of those long shots still.

Hinrich and Miller look like they did in the playoffs last year which is good.

JJ has a lot more length than I realized. He looks like he has a pretty big wingspan which might allow to play some 4 after all. He is bit out of control at times (the refs missed a couple travel calls actually) on offense and foul prone on defense. All in all though, he’s intriguing but I still expect him to be pretty up and down this year.

Taj is a pick that I killed when it happened because in the few USC games I saw, he never did much, while I saw Dejaun Blair manhandling guys on a regular basis. With that said, he has been a pleasant surprise. He is a very good shot blocker already, he rebounds well in traffic and shows a lot of poise and confidence so far. His jumper is a lot better than I remember but he did show problems finishing and catching a few passes. At this point he’s a solid player off the bench and given experience and if he gets stronger, could have a decent career in the Joe Smith mold.

"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z

by bigballa10 on Oct 8, 2009 11:20 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

"the refs missed a couple travel calls actually"

You’re going to give Paul Pierce’s and John Salmons’ agents a couple of heart attacks.

I agree on Taj. Watching the tape shows me that his mistakes are largely due to inexperience at this level. His fouls will go down as he learns the tendencies of his opponents. He picked up a couple of fouls guardign Okur and just being unfamiliar with what Okur wants to do with the basketball.

What was really good was our 2nd unit really turned in on against the Jazz 2nd unit. We turned it over early with sloppy play, but turned that around with better defense out of the 2nd unit.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Oct 8, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

joe smith

I said it before somewhere, but I’ll say it again…. Joe smith he is not. Look up Smith’s early career numbers, they might surprise you.

by 72-10 on Oct 8, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Other than Joe Smith's second or third year...

why not?

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by MPG on Oct 8, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

joe smith was a #1 pick with plenty of talent

I wish I could link stats, but it isn’t working for me for some reason… as a starter for GS he averaged 18 and 8 his second year… his third year he was playing hurt, which occurred frequently after he went to mini. But the main reason he never put up big numbers is he played the same position as Garnett.

Taj has yet to play against a top notch defender for an extended period of time. I enjoyed watching him and I think he could potentially be a regular NBA rotation player but he’s a backup PF.

by 72-10 on Oct 8, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

backup PF

is good for the 24th pick btw. I hope he’s better, but I need to see more.

by 72-10 on Oct 8, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"I said it before somewhere, but I'll say it again... Look up Smith's early career numbers.."

“But the main reason he never put up big numbers is he played the same position as Garnett.”

Found this contradiction pretty humorous

by yetti on Oct 8, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Smith hide in GK's shadow 'cause he's a role player.

GSW fans to a person think Smith was a bad pick and had a underwhelming career.

Show some Smith love on goldenstateofmind.com

by Noe_Valley on Oct 9, 2009 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm talking about the later version not his first few years

"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z

by bigballa10 on Oct 8, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

old joe smith I can see

but let’s wait for the end of preseason for any conclusions… I want to watch him play against better defenders and starters.

by 72-10 on Oct 8, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like I said

“At this point he’s a solid player off the bench and given experience and if he gets stronger, could have a decent career in the Joe Smith mold.” The emphasis on could. Besides I’m talking about the way plays, who his game reminds me of, not numbers that he may or may not put up.

"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z

by bigballa10 on Oct 8, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

One other thing

The fact that they have been playing this hard in preseason bodes well for the regular season in my opinion. That’s the kind of thing that does carry over and it shows they are ready to go from the beginning of the season for once. This team is deeper than I realized (since I was discounting the rookies) and I see no reason why they won’t be a playoff team this year barring injury to Rose or Noah.

"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z

by bigballa10 on Oct 8, 2009 11:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd say it is a bad thing

 I want my team to be so talented they can coast, to be honest. But that isn’t happening, so I suppose balls-out preseason is better than coasting and having average talent.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 8, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well I agree with that

but knowing they are considered a fringe playoff team, I’ll take playing hard over coasting. They’re not good enough to be turning it on and turning it off like the Lakers.

"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z

by bigballa10 on Oct 8, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's About Defense, Sir

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Who is James Johnson? Can he guard LeBron James? Can he guard Jamario Moon (LeBron’s backup)? For him to earn minutes and stay in the league, he will need to develop into a stopper on D. Yes, Johnson’s game-winning shot in preseason makes me happy, but I do not think he is going to outscore most of the starting Small Forwards in the NBA. Does he have the drive to sacrifice his offensive talent to become a tenacious defender? Who is James Johnson?

by bbmichal on Oct 8, 2009 2:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Who is James Johnson?

Only James Johnson knows, and he isn’t telling. Why? Because he’s James mutha frakkin Johnson.

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by MPG on Oct 8, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Went to the game and a it was a thrill

Some observations:
-Taj Gibson and James Johnson are gonna be impressive
-Pargo held himself relativley well and I think he’ll fill in for Gordon’s loss
-Noah is very easily distracted lol. The kid-like look on his face when Benny the Bull and the Jazz mascot were having their race, while the rest of the team was in the time out huddle was priceless
-I kinda cringed when everyone around me said “Put Deng back in, he’s the best player on the Bulls”
-Like last year’s London game, the fans seemed more into the timeout/halftime entertainment than the game at times, despite how close it was (last year the Nets won by a basket over Miami and D-Wade and Vince went back and forth). But I guess you got to sell a product eh?
- The Jazz backup gaurd is gonna be impressive, forgot his name, he’s a rookie, number 3. He had good passing lane ability and visual and teamed up well with Milsapp
-AK 47 looks even more of a wuss in person
- I was suprised the shot counted at the end seeing as from my end (Behind the opposing basket) it looked like he didnt get it off in time
- People of Britain…….leave the mexican wave alone. Once is fine. 4 times though?

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Kristin Kreuk is teh love.

Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Oct 8, 2009 3:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Mexican Wave.

I love that name. In America, it’s just “The Wave”, if you didn’t know.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Oct 8, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and it started in the good 'ol USA

But as a Cubs fan… I disapprove.

by 72-10 on Oct 8, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not exactly something to be proud of.

I love how our friends across the pond are so disapproving of the fans not paying attention to the game. That’s the United Center specialty.

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 8, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I wouldn't call it "The Mexican Wave" if you ever come to a game in the states.

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Oct 8, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Richard

I thought the Bulls signed Charles Oakley at first glance. When’s the last time the Bulls had a POWER forward? Not a tall forward, or a dunking forward, but an actual power forward? Antonio Davis? Ben Wallace? Mike Sweetney?

I hope Richard makes the roster.

by benhertz on Oct 9, 2009 6:20 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm loving the Charles Oakley reference

My dad used to take me to the games before they dismantled the dynasty and started sucking. Remember the board they had up at the old stadium that would count Oakley’s rebounds? That was my ish. Charles Oakley, Dave Corzine and Artis Gilmore. Those were my mans right there. “Mean Corzine” all day baby!!

by Rosenscrubs on Oct 9, 2009 1:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I remember that

I remember one game we went to he had 35 boards!!

"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z

by bigballa10 on Oct 9, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yessir!

That’s what I’m taking about right there. Old school…35 boards in a game?!?! Wow. I wonder how many games it will take for Tyrus Thomas to grab 35 boards?

by Rosenscrubs on Oct 9, 2009 7:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

35 divided by 3...

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Oct 9, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats the thing about "big men" who want to shoot the J

You better be making those J’s, cuz you’re totally out of position to grab boards. Combine that with TT’s court awareness or lack thereof and…well, I’m just excited for the season to start no matter what

by Rosenscrubs on Oct 9, 2009 8:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

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