Who are the Bulls camp free agents, and should we care?
With the Bulls going into camp with only 13 guaranteed contracts (as did most NBA teams, though none quite as profitable), and with a few minor injuries already popping up, the unsigned FAs on the roster may be more important than originally planned.
And 'important' could merely mean 'get through these mandatory preseason games', though with Aaron Gray out for 6 weeks, and Lindsey Hunter really only signed to be a high-paid assistant, someone could actually make the team.
SBNation brother site Ridiculous Upside recently went over the Bulls camp-invitees, so here is some more background on each:
Derrick Byars - Byars got a full-length profile earlier this offseason, so I'll just touch on a few highlights: he was a very smart and skilled college player, but since then has mostly spent time in Europe and the D-League in addition to getting a few preseason NBA looks. He doesn't rebound or get to the free-throw line consistently, and he's not the quickest guy, but he can definitely score and he's a decent passer for a swingman, and he generally makes smart decisions. Byars averaged just under 17 points per 36 minutes in Bakersfield last year, and he shot just over 38 percent on three-pointers. He also does a pretty good job of staying out of foul trouble. I think Chicago would do well to sign Byars, in part because Luol Deng's health is still somewhat tenuous, and because he would give them another bench scoring option on nights when Jannero Pargo's shot isn't falling. I'm not confident that will happen, and Byars isn't really the type of guy you bring in when you're trying to emphasize defense (though what team isn't at this time of year), but I think it would be a solid fit.
Chris Richard - I tend to get him confused with Chris Hunter, but Chris Richard injured his back last year and was released by Tulsa before the all-star break. He was solid if unspectacular when he played, though, averaging about 14 points and nine and a half rebounds per 36 minutes. Those numbers are an improvement on what he did in the NBA after being drafted by Minnesota in 2007, where he averaged six points and just under nine rebounds. His eFG and TS percentages have both improved as well, so while he's not a world-beater, he'd be a solid bench option at power forward for an NBA team. Provided his body can handle it, of course.
Both Byars and Richard played significant time in the preseason opener, and while Byars looked a bit better, I wouldn't be surprised if Richard is the one (and only one) the Bulls keep due to his size. Even after the rise of Taj (sigh), it's likely the Bulls feel the need for frontcourt emergency depth with Gray sidelined, James fat, and Miller always prone to miss games here and there.
I also wouldn't mind seeing Byars given a shot to out-play Pargo (not to try to read too much into the preseason game, I just truly think Pargo is replacement-level) for a spot at the fringe of the rotation, but with the Bulls nearly $1m from the luxury tax line, they'll likely sign only one of the two, if none. And while spots 12-15 are not that significant, with the Bulls insistent on not paying the tax and having a lot of dead (if expiring) money already on the books, I wonder if they're regretting their summer signings (or at least the terms) of Gray, Hunter, and Pargo.
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Yes I 'd rather have Byars and Richards over Gray and Pargo.
I know it was just one game but I’d kinda like these guys for bench depth. Byars is stroke it. I’d like to see Richard make it so that Noah has another friend and he has big hair, better hair than Aaron Gray.
Seriously I wish it was set up like the NFL where you can just cut people. I mean if they cut Gray and Pargo I could careless.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
by SoulEater7 on Oct 5, 2009 7:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"Byars is stroke it."
4-11?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 5, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Byars can stroke it. Sorry.
4-11, I thought he had a pretty good game. I can’t tell you anything about his stats. I just liked what I saw from him. Played off Rose pretty well and doesn’t force things like the 16th overall pick. His shot is pretty, good form. I might take a chance on him but I guess I’d like to see more of him and tomorrow afternoon we will. If he has a bad game you can tell me I’m dumb.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
by SoulEater7 on Oct 5, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
meh its too early to tell
Ive at least seen aaron gray and pargo play against actual nba talent so i know what they are capable of (or not capable of) One preseason game and a scouting report doesnt exactly prove anything about anyone…for all we know that was the best Byars and Richards could offer (last preseason game) and it wont get much better than that….If i had to choose id want byars over richards…
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on Oct 5, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, Gray is likely better
But he’s hurt, and at his size he may not come back too briskly.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 5, 2009 7:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
and if he does he might be slower...
my god…..imagine that….a slower aaron gray…..::shudders::
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on Oct 5, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
does he do anything briskly?
"This is not Vietnam, Smokey, there are rules here." - Walter Sobchak
by Rose Colored Goggles on Oct 6, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Waiting for the Big Mac or Krispy Kreme comment
5, 4, 3….
In honor of the dearly departed, I declare July PB&J month - everyone raise a sandwich to the memory of Ben!
by wjb1492 on Oct 6, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can polish off a Whopper
in 17 seconds flat.
Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.
by stupidgenius on Oct 6, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldnt they sign both of them
for the league min. which is 458k for one year? im not sure how close they are to the tax
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by piccolomair on Oct 5, 2009 7:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oh the link for the 458k is here
http://www.insidehoops.com/minimum-nba-salary.shtml
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by piccolomair on Oct 5, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im always wary of guards with no handle
but byars can shoot it, as opposed to pargo who simply likes to shoot it. and with how poor our 3 pt shooting was in the first preseason game (granted, pargo and kirk didn’t play), i think having someone with at least 3 point shooting ability on the bench is something we could sorely use.
and i said it at the time and i’ll say it again, but the lindsey hunter signing is completely inexplicable; the guy plain and simply cannot play a lick anymore. with gray out we really could use both byars and richard (or at least another big guy du’jour if richard isn’t your speed), but it looks to me like we’re only going to keep one of them or neither.
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by Calogero on Oct 5, 2009 7:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i didnt mean to imply pargo cant handle it there
but rather that byars can’t.
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by Calogero on Oct 5, 2009 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just how profitable are the Bulls?
Since the Bulls profitability is important, it’s mentioned often here, I was wondering how does Jerry’s franchise compare with the others?
Me? I think it’s a non issue for Chicago but more so for franchises that are for sale.
Of the FA, Gray and Pargo played against NBA talent so I consider them lower risk signings and worth the money. If anyone foresaw saw Gray’s injury, they sure didn’t post about it here.
by Noe_Valley on Oct 5, 2009 8:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the Bulls are the NBA's most profitable franchise
and its not really close.
Doug Thonus does a great job of going through the basics and all the counter-arguments here.
The Bulls simply don’t spend money equal to their revenue. Its a cash cow. Its his business, but I’d rather he was more Mark Cuban or Paul Allen than Bob Johnson.
So yes, the Bulls could afford to sign Chris Richard and Byars without much problem, even if it did mean luxury tax payments. They just choose not too.
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 5, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How else do you expect JR to pay for Jake Peavy?
by Big D on Oct 5, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Dont' forget Alex Rios!
/fuckfuckfuckfuck
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 6, 2009 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the addition that's going to get the White Sox playing deep into this week!
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
by Prevenge on Oct 6, 2009 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cheap is relative
So I would say a franchise that dumps talent for contracts like Memphis did with Gasol or cutting salary like the Hornets or preparing to sell a team (Cohan for the GSW) is acting cheap.
Jerry’s cheap okay it’s a big deal here and I guess cases when some unproven scrubs are not singed, it really gets to people. For me’s it’s part of the game — what can you do for a fixed price. There’s a soft cap and how well can a team perform while keeping under the cap.
by Noe_Valley on Oct 5, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't call him cheap, Doug did
Its not a matter of cheapness to me. It a decision on how you are going to run your business. JR has made his decision – and as a Bulls fan I live with it. You asked if the Bulls were profitable, they are – very. If the Bulls spent money like the Lakers or Blazers, i think there results would reflect that.
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 5, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Bulls make more money per dollar spent than any team in the league
the Memphis Grizzlies are borderline bankrupt. They shed contracts because they have to. I don’t think it’s these D-League players not getting signed that has people here upset, that’s just simply another piece of evidence condemning JR’s cheapness. It’s also the low-balling of BG, and the refusal to pay the tax to make a trade for a Gasol-type player (although that also had to do with not breaking up “the core”).
We spend money like we’re the Charlotte Bobcats, but we make money like the Lakers or Knicks.
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by Rose Colored Goggles on Oct 6, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess we should be happy we're not the Warriors or Griz
yes, it could be worse. Others like to have higher standards.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 6, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"There’s a soft cap and how well can a team perform while keeping under the cap."
Is that what’s inscribed on the trophy?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 6, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
on the one JR gives to himself each off-season
"This is not Vietnam, Smokey, there are rules here." - Walter Sobchak
by Rose Colored Goggles on Oct 6, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neither one of these guys
is worth paying luxury tax.
by Cannoli on Oct 5, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i spend some time on the Blazers board
right now, they are arguing over who should be the 15th player on the team – Ime Udoka or Jarron Collins. Neither of those guys is worth the debate. But its not about the individual players, its about how you are going to run your franchise. Is Byars, Richards or Demarcus Nelson worth going into the luxury tax for? Of course not. Are having legit 13th, 14th and 15th players on your roster (Jerome James doesn’t count) important to have during the season – OF COURSE! We are talking about a team that played Linton Johnson III and Hunter minutes during the stretch run and in the playoffs last season. So those guys at the end of the bench matter.
Its not really about the players. Its about how the Bulls are going to run their franchise. The Bulls are going to go into the season with 3 less players than they are allowed to have on the team to save a few thousands dollars.
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 5, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a few thousand. It's a few million dollars.
If they’re over the tax by even a dollar, they miss out on the payout from the over the tax teams.
by Scotter on Oct 6, 2009 3:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point (forgot about the tax payments)
so if/when Deng (or any other player) gets injured and the Bulls are looking to sign some scrub to a 10 day contract to replace him, I’ll be able to pump my fist and say “Yeah, JR saved another $2 million! Whew!” That is the essence of why I became a Bulls fan. The savings.
The average operating income per year in the NBA over the past decade was 6.2 million while the Bulls pocketed 43.7 million [per year] over that period.
High fives! Virtual high fives all around baby! WHEW! One question though – do the Bulls play in Chicago or Memphis?
Enough sarcasm – you are right, I did forget about the lux. tax payments. But does that really change the argument all that much?
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 6, 2009 3:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It does
I don’t expect even Cuban to throw away millions of dollars to sign some guy who will barely play and won’t impact the win/loss column.
by runningman on Oct 6, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't know if they'll impact the win-loss column
that depends on injuries. If we sustain a few injuries over the course of the season, bench depth becomes VERY important and can absolutely affect the record of the team.
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by Rose Colored Goggles on Oct 6, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant to reply to runningman, sorry
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by Rose Colored Goggles on Oct 6, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry about the snark
but it annoys me a little that it isn’t enough for the Bulls to be the most profitable franchise over the past 10 years by a wide margin – they have to crush the competition. The Bulls would rather field a roster with only 11 able bodied NBA players (J. James and Hunter don’t count) than risk being too close to the tax line. Chicago is a big market city that supported the Bulls through some of the worst years a basketball team has ever experienced – I think the fans deserve more.
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 6, 2009 4:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Back to Cannolis statement.
Do you really think Derrick Byars or Chris Richard are worth going over the luxury tax?
Why isn't your friendly Bulls Blogger friendly?
by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 6, 2009 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they're going over the tax for derrick rose
think of it that way if it helps. Besides, remember Paxson saying the fact that the Bulls got the #1 pick threw off their entire salary structure plan! Curse the good fortune!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 6, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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