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Bulls 92, Spurs 85: Improved defense, balanced scoring, dominating rebounding?

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Pace Eff eFG FT/FG OREB% TOr
San Antonio 90.0 94.4 44.9% 19.2 17.8 14.4
Chicago 102.2 43.5% 22.6 29.4 10.0

(more on the 4 factors box score)

The Bulls said all summer that their new version of the team would be one that was improved defensively, and balanced on offense. And tonight it was exactly that.

The defense did look very good in tonight's game, no longer were the Bulls switching every screen, guys were fighting and recovering well instead. And they were spectacular on the defensive glass. The Bulls grabbed over 82% of available defensive rebounds tonight, a superlative number and far better than their mark last year. That was a key weakness to address coming into this season, and as much that was made about effectively 'replacing' Gordon with the Deng in the scoring department, there's no denying the added advantage of Luol back at the 3 when it comes to rebounds. Luol had 9 tonight, and after seeing the lack of lift in the preseason it was really good to see him absolutely fighting for boards. He had a huge one to end the first half that allowed Hinrich to hit an open 3 to put the Bulls up one.

Luol's offense was also good, but it wasn't with any added facets, just with layups and the 22-footer. There were a few possessions where Luol tried to isolate his man, but it's still not his game. That said, with 17 he was the team leader, and as mentioned, this truly was a balanced team scoring load: Hinrich 14, Tyrus 13, Rose 13, Noah 10, Salmons 10, Miller 9, Taj 6.

Derrick Rose had his first action off of injury, and there were times when would finish a play and start to gingerly walk around. But when he had the ball in his hands he was still showing explosiveness off that ankle. And when looking at how he'll improve this season, it's encouraging to see high marks in FTAs and rebounds. He also seemed to be fighting through screens a bit better defensively, and the potential matchup nightmare of Tony Parker only managed 8 points in 34 minutes. It's such a huge part of this early season that Rose isn't set back by this injury and lack of a preseason.

As a team, the Bulls didn't even shoot that well (3-16 from three, yuck), and I thought they'd nearly always have to do so to win games, especially against teams like teams of the Spurs caliber. But they not only completely dominated the rebounding battle, they seemingly got to every loose ball and were more aggressive and active on both ends. Tim Duncan dominated nearly every time he received the ball, but the rest of the Spurs couldn't take advantage, even of matchups I thought they would (Tyrus guarding Jefferson, Deng guarding Manu). They just looked older and less fresh than the Bulls all night.

Perhaps the Bulls won't look so good in those factors every game, but if it's a marked improvement overall from last season, they'll win a lot of games.

Some other observations...

  • Another less important matchup involved the DeJuan Blair envy tour, though this stop had his draft-mate Taj Gibson as the clear winner. Taj was a bit shot-happy and his hands stink, but he was killing it on the glass, and most impressively on the offensive end with Blair in the game. 
  • I don't think I find myself rooting for anyone harder during games than Tyrus Thomas. It was rough being in that mindset early as he had a terrible opening stint to the game. With the Bulls red-hot running and sharing, Tyrus took a clear 'my turn' leaning jumper. He managed to do not much else for 6 minutes until Taj Gibson headed to the scorers table, and almost on cue Tyrus threw a pointless elbow after a rebound, as if he was trying to get out of the game. But he had a fantastic second half, playing the entire 3rd quarter, not only doing what he always should be doing (board, blocks, drawing fouls, etc.), but actually shooting jump shots in rhythm (his attempts not created equal). It's important to see him not stay down after a bad stint, and just as importantly not to see Vinny punish him for one. Tyrus didn't come back in the 4th, but the Spurs stayed small and it's hard to justify putting him in over Hinrich/Salmons/Deng in that situation.
  • Speaking of substitutions, my propers to VDN for a tight rotation. Only 8 guys with significant minutes, plus some Pargo suckage sprinkled in at the end of quarters (likely to give Rose an extra breather). I wasn't really down with the stints of going big with Tyrus as a 3, but even though I think Thomas disappears in that role, Jefferson wasn't able to take advantage on the other end and it kept their monster advantage on the glass. The Spurs sort of did the Bulls a favor as well staying small in the 2nd half, and the Bulls were able to keep in Rose/Hinrich/Salmons/Deng with either Noah or Miller as the sole big, and it was nice to see him not leaving Miller out for super-extended stretches.
  • Some notes from the in-game experience: The opening season video was underwhelming, and I always get a bit irked when they approach that Celtics series as a great victory...Noah nicely addressed the crowd, just another reason he should be considered as a captain...PA Announcer Tommy Edwards was in rare form today, not just missing substitutions but calling Popovich 'George' and Blair 'Dijon'...the halftime act was Michael Jackson themed, which was fine except they went for an uber-creepy MJ impersonator.

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overall, a great game

hopefully just a taste of what’s to come and not just a fresh young team playing an old tired one

by chitownsports25 on Oct 29, 2009 11:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

as good a defensive effort from a TEAM

on parker as you’ll see. the interior defense was good all around, with great help and recovery. the spurs also weren’t getting the long open look 3s they prefer. except for a short stint near the end, the bulls were making the recovery everywhere.

the offense was fine with 92 against that defense. had a few missed free throws been made, and a couple of those open salmons threes, it would’ve been a near blowout.

tyrus’ play in the third was key to a game that wasn’t really as close as the final 7 point differential. maybe parker was feeling bruised, but most of those guys (except duncan, finley and mcdyess) aren’t that old yet. and duncan showed no effects of the 2nd game in two nights. the bulls just outplayed ’em, thoroughly.

the name of the team is The DIAMONDBACKS

by marionette on Oct 29, 2009 11:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yea I really loved the way they defended the pick and roll.

That and the ball movement were the two big changes from last year’s team in my opinion.

by RyPac13 on Oct 29, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i was hesitant to bring up ball movement

yfbb hates hearing those words…

;-)

the name of the team is The DIAMONDBACKS

by marionette on Oct 29, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But in this case...it's true.

Why isn't your friendly Bulls Blogger friendly?

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 30, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

That was very noticeable how they were whipping the ball around to find an open man.

"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z

by bigballa10 on Oct 30, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What was especially nice

was watching Tyrus get back on defense as the trail defender and stuffing two of Parker’s layups. In years past he probably doesn’t get back quick enough to make those plays. Kudos to Vinny for getting on him in the huddle about getting up and down the floor.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Oct 29, 2009 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love how Vinny was mic'd there.

“Taj, Tyrus, run the floor. TYRUS run the floor!” LOL

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by cranscape on Oct 29, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's funny, Skiles told him the same thing, but Tyrus never listened. He seems to listen, now.

Whether Vinny’s better at reaching Tyrus or Tyrus has just grown up a bit, I’m happy to see he’s buying in a little more.

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Oct 29, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

See how much he listens if he doesn't get to play in the 4th quarter.

The guy has trust issues. Hopefully someone talked to him after he was taken out. When you use the bench as a punishment for a guy that long it gets confusing when you bench him after he plays well.

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by cranscape on Oct 30, 2009 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, something about Pavlov and his dogs.

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Oct 30, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was funny. Good to hear though. It seems like Vinny is more comfy without Del Harris around. Like he is the “main guy” now not looking for others opinions first

by DontLikeUgly on Oct 30, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's probably a bit early for this, but could it be that Vinny might be developing into

a pretty good coach? The guys are clearly playing hard for him. His defensive scheme tonight (and all preseason, I might add) looks much, much improved. He seems to understand the need for a tight rotation. He pulls Tyrus a little too often, and the offense is still a little disorganized for my liking (mythical ball movement moments tonight aside), but all in all he’s seemingly improved a fair amount in his time here. Here’s hoping this isn’t a mirage or fool’s gold that’s just a result of the release of happy chemicals caused by a big opening night win.

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Oct 29, 2009 11:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll settle for competence.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 29, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'll admit

I’m still amazed at how great the defense looked tonight. If this level of effort on that end and on the glass is something that’s sustained for the entire season, then I’ll be giving Vinny some serious props. He had these guys ready to play tonight, and it’s really nice to know that the “defense” stuff we heard all offseason wasn’t just lip service. I think Vinny is definitely improving.

by Illini15 on Oct 29, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know, early on the Bulls looked like the same old team,

but as the game went on, it became clear that things were different. More hustle/energy, better rotation, more passing, etc. This was a team performance, and it was fun to watch.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Oct 29, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'll see tomorrow...

If the Bulls come out with two solid efforts vs. two TOP teams. I think we could be looking good going forward. I hope some kind of fight breaks out and we show a little toughness

by DontLikeUgly on Oct 29, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks Ditka

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 29, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I believe you mean Grabowski

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Oct 30, 2009 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ditka was a champion LoL

by DontLikeUgly on Oct 30, 2009 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, Doug Collins was giving him props for the offensive scheme

and of couse i’m thinking, “darn national guys, never know whats really happening with a team below the surface.” but i think he makes a good point. the Bulls don’t need to run a Princeton offense or motion offense or whatever. if they have 5 or 6 basic offensive sets and just work off those and just draw up plays based on variations of the basic sets, i think it’ll actually work well for this team. keeps it simple and i feel maximizes each guy’s individual talents. i know its a different sport, but the Wildcat the Dolphins run is a great example. and i use it because its what i know as a frame of reference. but they only use a few basic sets for that package and add wrinkles from there. and its successful, and in a sport where the other team is always trying to out-strategerize you (i know thats not a word. thats why its funny, get it?). in basketball where strategy is simplified, no need to overcomplicate things. with our talent from 1-7, we have enough to make the playoffs in the east.

we went out for pizza after the game. -dave wannstedt

by BULLieving in Miami on Oct 30, 2009 12:00 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

He got better by doing less.

He was always trying to be over creative with his rotations, playing too many guys, and wielding the time outs like a sledgehammer. Doing less is more. It will be interesting to see what he does when we get in a hole. He also has less tempting crap to play around with than last year. Larry Hughes should never been forced onto a new coach. That is just mean.

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by cranscape on Oct 30, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not if you ask Larry Hughes. He is better than Lebron

by DontLikeUgly on Oct 30, 2009 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do wonder if Vinny

has learned to relax with the timeouts, or if it was just because the Bulls were up most of the time.

Only time will tell, but putting your best players in (aside from rest) and then letting them play, seems like a winning strategy to me.

All of his “matchups” stuff and time outs from last year were just making things worse.

by runningman on Oct 30, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good game summary.

A very good start. It couldn’t get much better than it is when our only real complaint is “John Salmons had an off night.”

Pretty good rotation coverage by Vinny, all our “potentials” played well, Deng looked better than in preseason and most importantly Rose looked pretty good (all things considered).

Tomorrow night will be a pretty big test and it’s still way too early, but so far so good.

by RyPac13 on Oct 29, 2009 11:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

just finished watching a bit ago

oh man, that was fun. blocked shots, fast paced, getting to every loose ball. it helped that Timmy had no help tonight, but it also shows that the Bulls have the youth and energy to give any team a game on any night. TT redeemed himself in the 2nd half. and i totally agree about the rotation. sure it won’t be this tight all year, or guys will be gassed by March. they can open it up against lesser teams and on nights where a comfortable lead will allow for starters to rest. but if this team wants to makes statements against the upper crust teams, the teams they might see in the playoffs, Vinny knows he has to man his rotation and have his best players out there.

and although Timmy had a great game, i mean, he is a future HoF-er, i thought Noah played great. aggressive and active all night.

i’m hoping its the ankle, but i do see him sometimes standing around after passing the ball off and also allowing the guy in front of him to blow right by him. you’d figure he’d either try to force the guy to one side and try to anticipate his move or at least cut him off when he makes a move.
…either that, or they want him to let the guy go by to get them into the teeth of the D, especially with Noah and TT blocking shots back there, but i never felt good about allowing penetration. it forces defenders to rotate and someone gets out of position.

GREAT first game and win. now lets show Boston a little something.

we went out for pizza after the game. -dave wannstedt

by BULLieving in Miami on Oct 29, 2009 11:49 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

That was great,

and we could all see it coming too. That probably would have been a Stacey King poster.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Oct 29, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats your point guard!

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 30, 2009 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah not Neil at all.

I think they should use some of that 2010 cash and find a broadcaster. I have to say Stacy is doing a better job these days.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 30, 2009 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

can anyone find a vid of that?

i missed the beginning of the game and it hasn’t shown up in any of the highlights

i'm hot for teacher

by DLRoth on Oct 30, 2009 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it made sportscenter's top ten plays

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Oct 30, 2009 2:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was highlight #1

on the Bulls-Spurs recap.

“What ankle injury?”

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Oct 30, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow, captures the moment perfectly

"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"

by Jaina on Oct 30, 2009 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So I guess it's common knowledge now that the Bulls are going after Wade?

Sam Smith talked about it. Doug Collins… some other people on ESPN. It’s no longer the Bulls have money for a FA. It’s like Bulls are going after Wade. They just come out and say it now.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 30, 2009 12:35 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

There are only so many free agents out there...

So, they can throw any name against the wall as the media, and maybe it will stick…with DWade, they look to the obvious of him being a hometown guy…Don’t get me wrong, I would love to see Wade in a Bulls uniform, but I don’t think there is any inside info on who the Bulls will pursue with their money next summer…

Why isn't your friendly Bulls Blogger friendly?

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 30, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

true

its logical for wade/bulls talk to spring up, especially this season. i wouldn’t be surprised if he stayed. i think people are overvaluing him being from chicago and under appreciating the fact that he loves miami. not to say he couldn’t end up here, but there’s more to it than wade from chicago, ergo wade to bulls.

"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH

by Illini0509 on Oct 30, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

The Bulls didn't tell that to them.

I doubt that Bulls have made the decision who they’re going after the hardest next year: How Tyrus plays matters, it matters if Salmons opts out, it matters if they get a great trade opportunity during the year, the salary cap number matters, it matters if Bosh or Wade actually want to move. I personally think that Hinrich has to be traded for Wade to be a possibility. With Rose and Wade, Hinrich gets 24 minutes maximum at the pg/sg position, and that’s not workable.

On a side note, can you imagine the atheticism of a Rose, Wade, Deng, Tyrus, Noah lineup?
I know Deng isn’t athetic, but being 6’9" enables him to play like he is when rebounding, playing defense, and attacking the basket against smaller players.

by runningman on Oct 30, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Deng

isn’t NOT athletic. He’s just nothing spectacular or anything.

by Cosmis on Oct 30, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is long

and usually has good court awareness. That means he should have certain advantages at his position as long as the opposing guy doesn’t body him/box him out a lot or out athlete him physically.

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by cranscape on Oct 30, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Side note:

BE’ers already melting down over LMA’s lackluster play since his contract. Hilarious.

Oh, and Oden just missed two FTs in a row while the Blazers were down 1 with 4.6 seconds left. Meltdown city.

by Illini15 on Oct 30, 2009 12:40 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Amazing that it wasn't just Oden

A whole line of Blazers chose to massively choke at the free throw line — Miller, Aldridge, Oden, and Roy. I’m still flabbergasted that they lost: they had twenty more shot attempts. Hell of a game.

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

by Ben R on Oct 30, 2009 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My only issue was with outside shooting.

We are going to need that in close games and right now only Hinrich can be trusted.

by Uncle Stanley McGoober on Oct 30, 2009 12:43 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I was going to mention that.

I’m still kinda worried about the three point shooting. The Bulls had a drought going and that would normally been BG time.

I think the TNT crew made a great point about who is going to get that tough three point shot to win the close games. I don’t know.. that kinda concerns me. Tonight it really wasn’t an issue but against Boston it might be. In fact I will say with Bostons defense it’s going to be a big problem for the Bulls.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 30, 2009 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We won't be able to go tit for tat with Ray Allen from the 3pt line

but hopefully we’ll find a way of getting a cushion…I’ll probably be nervous unless we have a 20 pt lead going into the 4th. The Celtics have a way of making leads vanish and there is always that moving screen thing they used so effectively against us last season and the desperation punch they do when nothing else works. (cough)

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by cranscape on Oct 30, 2009 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I just think the Celtics are so balanced.

Their bench has improved and I could see them lay a hurting on the Bulls tomorrow night.

I think they’re the best team in the NBA.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 30, 2009 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They might be the best team in the NBA, but I'd take the Bulls bench over their bench

Brad Miller + Kirk > Marquis Daniels + Sheed

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Oct 30, 2009 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats too close to call.

Pargo < House but it’s not the bench it’s the starting five. They just have too many weapons with KG back.

KG>Noah
Perkins-Tyrus
PP> Deng
Allen>Salmons
Rono-Rose——maybe Rose has a slight edge depends on the night.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 30, 2009 1:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Deng has traditionally owned Pierce on defense, for whatever reason, head to head.

On the whole, Pierce is better, but in head to head matchups Deng always gives him fits. I’d suspect its because most of Pierce’s slow “old man game” moves don’t work as much on Deng because he’s long and sturdy and sound on defense, and he doesn’t bite or gamble based on Pierce’s fakes and herky jerky stuff.

That being said, Pierce is still better. I think our starting five is closer than it seems at first blush, but KG just makes all the difference. KG is soooo much better than what we’ve got in Tyrus. I just hope that KG’s knee isn’t right, so that Tyrus can give him a little bit of the business.

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Oct 30, 2009 2:07 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yea , agree with everything

Once again Rose will be the key. He has the ability to be the best player on the floor. If he can get some guys going and we have a lot of energy I think we can keep it close and possibly steal it at the end. The only problem is, we are definitely not gonna sneak up on them. I’m sure they’re dying to prove that the Bulls were only in that series Cause Garnett was out. Hopefully they’ll be wrong.

One other thing, and this is not a joke. Offensively Big Baby basically played like KG last year. He was hitting an incredibly high percentage of shots and Garnett’s not a huge scorer these days anyway. So I don’t think the difference will come on offense, but it will probably be far more difficult to score the ball this time around. We gotta get boards and run.

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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 30, 2009 2:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's going to be MUCH harder to score. We lost BG for one and for two

KG is back. We’re going to struggle. The D is going to have to make up for it, but the good news is, the blueprint for beating the C’s is the same one they used tonight to upend the Spurs. It doesn’t matter so much if KG gets his, you have to chase the other guys off the three point line and not allow them to get easy looks. If they can do that, they have a shot.

Also, Fish needs to get buckets tomorrow night and stop missing wide open catch and shoot opportunities.

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Oct 30, 2009 2:45 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Don't forget

defensive rebounding being part of that blueprint.

If Rondo gets 5 or more rebounds Friday, the Spurs game might have been a mirage.

by runningman on Oct 30, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like Pop says, just box him out

Box out Rondo the way Kurt did to him in the Playoffs. Box Rondo out to the perimeter and watch him get himself T’d up. He’s a loose cannon when you beat him where he has to be amazing to look good.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Oct 30, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm normally optimistic and was really impressed with the team's performance tonight

However, I remember being pretty excited after their opening night win last year only to see them crushed at Boston in the next game. Still, it was pretty encouraging to see them win a game against a top tier team with a less than 100% Rose and bad shooting from Salmons.

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Ronald Reagan

by snley on Oct 30, 2009 12:56 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The spurs are a different team than the bucks though.

The spurs are supposed to be one of the 5 contenders.

by JockstrapNoah on Oct 30, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They are also old and on the second leg of a back to back while the Bulls were fired up for the home opener

I’m not going to totally discount the win last night, I’m just very leery of getting too excited by it.

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on Oct 30, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

none of their starters even played 30 minutes

on wed, with bonner the high topping out at 28.

i don’t think duncan playing 22 min the night before really wore him out. :P

"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"

by Jaina on Oct 30, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've never thought it was necessarily the playing time that wears players out on the back to backs

As much as it is the travel. Even with the pampered way the NBA travels, it’s still an exhausting hassle.

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on Oct 30, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

true, the travel is tough

but compounded when the guys get a lot of minutes. they were pretty well rested. bonner’s near 29 minutes was the high on the entire team, actually.

"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"

by Jaina on Oct 30, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That may be true, but on the 2nd game

of the season? There is no cumulative fatigue from the season, and they had like a week off before the first game of the back to back where they played under 30 minutes each.

They may be old in basketball years, but if fatigue was a factor this game the Spurs may as well hang it up, because they can’t survive a long playoff run after the 82 game season.

by runningman on Oct 30, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm just looking for means to dampen any optimism I may be feeling from last night's game

I’m already failing in my attempts to prevent a destruction of hope when Northwestern invariably ruins Iowa’s perfect season. I don’t want to start thinking the Bulls could win 50.

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on Oct 30, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how 'bout this then:

the bulls had a week to prepare, and the spurs had less than 24 hours?

the name of the team is The DIAMONDBACKS

by marionette on Oct 30, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that was a big deal on TNT post-game

how the Spurs were old and tired. It’s game two!

PtR is on this point as well, I guess they’re always very poor on the back-to-back.

What-ever. It’s not like last night meant they could beat the Spurs in a 7-game series. But they’re an impressive opponent even ‘tired’, and the Bulls need to put early wins in the bank and need not make any excuses for how they come.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 30, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Instead of the "old and tired"

they should have mentioned how Pop didn’t really want them to come into camp “in shape” this year. He wanted them to play themselves into shape so as they’re not tired next may and june. I think I heard that somewhere. That would make way more sense.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Oct 30, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They could have just mentioned

How the Spurs don’t give a shit about the regular season, certainly not in October.

It’s a boring meme by now. “The Spurs look old! Duncan is out of gas! Pop looks like a serial killer!” I wish the Bulls could look so old and win 50 games like it was a cakewalk.

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 30, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nit picking

I still wanna see rose get to the line more. I know limited minutes and not pressing it hard.. but after watching the second game its redic how many free throws these stars shoot a game. I would love if Rose got 20 free throws a game as im sure we all would.

DA CUBS DA BEARS DA BULLS

by Rudey on Oct 30, 2009 1:01 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Still a chance he gets to the line more this season

1. He was playing against the Spurs, a team that traditionally does not foul much
2. He’s still at less than 100%

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on Oct 30, 2009 6:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i too had very few, if any, complaints regarding VDN tonight

not just his substitution patterns, but overall the difference in this teams schemes defensively from last year to this year looked like night and day. however, re: justifying putting tyrus in over hinrich/salmons/deng in the 4th— i wanted tyrus to come back in for salmons. salmons was truly god awful last night, and i remain unconvinced that he will stay as efficient a scorer as he was last season.

other than salmons though, last night was great, and kirk even hit a couple of runners in the lane for, i think, the first time ever. if can add a consistent little floater that will help his game so much. overall, great first night, and let’s see how it carries over in a very tough spot in boston tonight.

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by Calogero on Oct 30, 2009 6:16 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

A little bit of Celtic Green.

Well done guys. I was genuinely happy when I saw that your squad had succeeded at battling the Spurs. Partly because of Rose, (I have him on my fantasy team ;D) partly because I want to see the Spurs lose (sorry, can’t stand them, don’t know why) and partly because I’ve been keeping an eye on Noah since his last college year.

But mostly, because I, like any other person that ever heard of basketball, have some red blood flowing somewhere. I won’t deny that, even though it sounds lame, MJ is still part of your history and he touched us all.

Anyway, I came here to wish you guys the best of luck in tonights game against “us”, the Celtics. I hope the game will be entertaining and I really do hope we could have a healthy little rivalry growing here.

I’ll be keeping an eye on you guys, your Twitter feed (@bullsblogger) and your results at NBA.com, and expect me to pop by every now and then for some random ramblings before Celtic games as well ;)

So in short: good luck, have fun and don’t you bloody dare to beat us.

- Dirk 'DaarisDirk' van Boxtel

by Kiorrik on Oct 30, 2009 7:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thankful for Taj

While I appreciate folks holding out hope for Tyrus, I’m not one of them. He lost me for good in the Boston series. I just don’t think he “gets it” nor will he ever. His flashes of brilliance are not enough to make up for his general stupidity. I’m putting the hope I held for him into Taj.

Taj looks pretty good and having him out there will force Tyrus to play smart or sit, which is great for everyone involved. And should it (and my guess is it will) become more sitting, for Tyrus, so be it.

Also, it’s GREAT to see Luol out there…

by dasspunk on Oct 30, 2009 7:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

no kidding.

Taj was hitting the glass, but the dead-eye jumpshooter we saw in the preseason was easily trumped by Tyrus’ shooting. Plus Tyrus is simply better and all that.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 30, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Tyrus got better

once his jump shots were attempted in rhythm. It was a natural flow of the offense reacting to the way the Spurs adjusted to the penetration of Rose and Kurt(i have to). In the 3rd it was three straight splashes in the net.

I still think Thomas’ prudent offensive decisions come from his superior defensive play. He builds the momentum with defensive stops that give him the aggression to attack the rim.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Oct 30, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't understand this argument that Tyrus needs competition for the starting job

Doug Collins was even blabbering about this last night and making me grateful he backed out on the head coaching job last summer. Ever since Tyrus was drafted the organization has constantly yanked around his playing time and starting role. Given their uneven handling of him over the years, maybe what Tyrus needs is a coach who has the balls to let him play and develop on the court. Sadly, Vinny’s been the closest to doing that and it’s likely too late for Tyrus with this organization anyways. Further, if you’re hoping on Taj Gibson as anything more than a nice player off the bench for the future, well, that’s going to be a very bleak future.

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on Oct 30, 2009 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

re: Collins

absolutely. As much as I complain about VDN, Collins was destined to fail here. At least VDN had a chance not to.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 30, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

Collins would have been a disaster, and I too cringed when I heard him talking about Taj being some kind of threat to Thomas to play better.

by runningman on Oct 30, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Taj did have that effect

Thomas wasn’t very good in the first half. His offense was rushed because he was trying to bail out of the shot clock. However, his defense wasn’t much better. Taj entered and made an immediate impact.

Then Tyrus blew up in the 3rd and Taj didn’t really matter. Vinny pulled Deng for Taj at the close of the 3rd and moved Tyrus to the 3. It was Thomas, Taj, and Miller in the front court.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Oct 30, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nothing to do with being the first half of the season or anything

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Oct 30, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What is your evidence that Taj had any effect?

It’s not like Tyrus was on and off last year, right?

by runningman on Oct 30, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's unproveable

NBAO sees things many don’t, of course.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 30, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i had an nbao preternatural moment

when brad got the ball at the key and duncan started coming out on him.

reverse lay up, and i swear i “saw” it exactly that way before it happened!

the name of the team is The DIAMONDBACKS

by marionette on Oct 30, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this will probably never happen again, but roses Drtg for the season is lower than the team's.

also, the bulls are 1st in b-r.com’s SRS, which is equally unlikely to happen again.

Monkeys are like nature's humans.

by TheMoon on Oct 30, 2009 8:13 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

More fun with B-Ref after one game.

Noah, Rose, Deng, and Miller all have PER’s over 20. Salmons’ PER is 1.7, and Pargo’s is -15.1

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 30, 2009 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Richard Jefferson: 4.1 PER

Heh, Richard Jefferson sucks

by NittanyCub on Oct 30, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I know it is the first game and I may be writing something different after we get blown out by Boston tonight, but

………….. the Bulls played excellent team basketball with improved defense last night and I’m definitely pumped. Not having to overcome Gordon’s size and the ball movement make not resigning Gordon look pretty good. For the first time in years the Bulls appeared taller than the Spurs making it hard for them to get off easy shots. Salmons is a rock on defense. Rarely do you see him go for a pump fake. Duncan was on fire despite Noah playing him well. Ball movement definitely better without Gordon. I knew TT was going to get off to a bad start. He was way too pumped before the game. However, his 3rd period play more than compensated. I watched Aldridge when I got home and he is not head and shoulders above Tyrus. Our interior defense, led by Tyrus is a force other teams are going to have to deal with. Taj looked scared but was active on the glass. JJ did not get into the game and was trying hard to encourage others. I felt bad for him. I was sitting near the Bulls bench and there was a different feel to the way the coaching staff were working together. The players and coaches were intense, focused and appeared to be working smoothly, each knowing what to do and Vinny seemed in control of what was happening. There are two other coaches beside Vinny, Bickerstaff and Myers who seemed to focus on certain players and the players were responding to them. I’ve been on the fence with Vinny but I may be edging off to maybe we have something here. I’m not there yet but Vinny clearly seemed more confident and assertive and the leader of the staff. No complaints from me regarding the rotations. A fun night at the UC. Excellent summary – “rec”

by chgobr on Oct 30, 2009 8:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I really like

how Vinny was managing the rotation last night. Made me feel that he is learning. I really want to see what the Bulls do tonight against Boston. The Spurs were a little off last night and the Celtics should come out with a stronger attack. They will also pound it inside on us, a good test to see how our post presence will be this season. Rose will be playing back to back games while he is still getting back into game shape as well.

"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."

- fundamentallysound

by J Theory on Oct 30, 2009 8:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The only part I didn't like was putting Pargo in

I would have used that opportunity to put JJ in and go tall.

by hlac on Oct 30, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

pargo doesn't either

:D

"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"

by Jaina on Oct 30, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

or ever, really.

"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"

by Jaina on Oct 30, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seeing what Taj did

is an argument for going with Pargo. Admittedly, not all rookies are equal, but I think a lot of Taj’s misses came from being nervous and playing too fast. He looked rushed in a way that I never saw in the preseason.

I can understand putting Pargo in for a few stolen minutes as opposed to another rookie. As much as we down him, Pargo has performed effectively in the past in these situations. Give JJ some time, he’ll get minutes.

by runningman on Oct 30, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why can't salmons hit the assisted 3?

didn’t someone here show numbers that he was a significantly worse 3 pt shooter off the catch and shoot a while back?
i know he had an “off night”, but everytime he was set up for an open 3, i just knew he was going to miss it. it’s weird.

by M 80 on Oct 30, 2009 9:50 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

He seems to need a

couple dribbles and/or jab steps to get his shot off. Kirk would be the better option for an assisted 3.

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Oct 30, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

His game is moving with the ball

Last night he had a dribble drive opportunity that Ginobili defended well. Manu cut off the lane. Salmons dribble out to the FT line, he was open, but he had Manu coming towards him so he attacked the same lane to the rim. He got all the way to the cup and nearly put in a nice layup. He got hacked twice and made both free throws.

When he’s initiating the dribble he’s trying to get the defender to freeze. When the defender freezes Salmons will put up a jump shot. He knows the defender can’t block it. When he’s got the defender trying to guess which way he’s going then Salmons will start to rock him both directions until he gets the angle to attack.

He’s not very quick, but this rocker dribble can be very effective to get fouled. He’s got the height to where he can draw the fouls easier than Gordon could.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Oct 30, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

there was even one where he waited

after catching to make sure he was tightly guarded. Just how he plays, and it’s not going to change now.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 30, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Luol Deng: BG Hater

He says it again (that he’s saying it again) after the game:

“I feel like we have a great group of guys that care about winning,” Deng said. “I’ve said it before, but I couldn’t really say that the last few years.”

BG never becoming captain, getting the contract offer pulled, not being extended, the reports of the locker room being happier now… I’m not sure how to quantify selfishness, but Luol’s really harping on its effect.

by YaoPau on Oct 30, 2009 9:55 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

well if Luol's response to this great adversity

was going into the tank for much of last season, screw him.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 30, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yea, Hughes

I don’t know if that’s trying to put it on BG.

Did Noc or Thabo ever give off vibes they didn’t care about winning?

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Oct 30, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

Deng really liked Noc from all reports. Noc wanted to win, he just didn’t seem to know the best way was staying with his man and passing more often. I was just pointing out that there are a lot more people absent from the team last year than BG.

If I had to guess any specific player it would have to be……. wait for it………. Hughes.

by runningman on Oct 30, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Recommended

For beginning and ending the catalogue of possible options with “Hughes.”

by jpx7 on Oct 30, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or Hughes

Or Hughes or Hughes or Hughes …

I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]

by Prevenge on Oct 30, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

With Hughes and Gooden last season...

And Wallace before that, I don’t think Luol was singling out anyone in particular, just stating a feeling that was around the team…

Why isn't your friendly Bulls Blogger friendly?

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 30, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spare me the Ubuntu bullshit.

He’s not the only guy off the team, and similar quotes were coming out of players’ mouths immediately after the trades last season. Let’s see how unselfish everyone is after playing against a pumped up Boston when Garnett is screaming like a hyena on steroids and Rondo is outrebounding Tyrus.

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 30, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Am I the only one here

who thinks of this when they read Ubuntu?

by NittanyCub on Oct 30, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

way to out yourself as a techie nerd.

boom roasted.

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Oct 30, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

The Celtics and noted "m'er f'er" philosopher Kevin Garnett

are also know to out themselves at techie nerds.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Oct 30, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's the first thing I thought of,

assuming from fundamentallysound’s comment that you’re referring to the OS, which I use extensively. It’s a nice OS< though not as good as some other flavors of linux … it’s more documented than others, so it’s just easier. :P

I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]

by Prevenge on Oct 30, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TNT's "Inside Trax" last night with Popovich

“We’re standing around on shot attempts. We have to get aggressive. Don’t box out space. Get aggressive. Put your body into somebody.”

Translation: BOX OUT!

That’s what we did at a high level last night. Miller, Noah, Hinrich, Gibson, Thomas, Deng all had a man on their hip or back on the defensive glass.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Oct 30, 2009 10:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I liked the VDN 'trax' as well

‘Taj, Tyrus, run’…‘TYRUS, run!’

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 30, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

That had to make

every informed Bulls fan chuckle. Glad to see Tyrus being coached instead of being yanked.

by runningman on Oct 30, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Tommy Edwards...

… is where amazing happens. In addition to “Dijon” I also heard a “DeSean.” My favorite Edwards memory is a game against the Grizzlies a while back where Mike Miller hit a runner and his call was “basket Michael.”

Did anyone else see the guy in the XXXL orange/brown hooded “fur” coat sitting behind the basket on the Spurs bench side? He looked like Garfield and kept getting up to point to people he was talking to on his cell phone.

by Stay Chisel on Oct 30, 2009 10:09 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Did anyone else

catch that fake informercial for the Bulls selling their Totally 80s Hits cd? It was hilarious. You had the team doing mall-style kareoke music videos ike D-Rose doing Rick James, and Aaron Gray and Kirk Hinrich doing some other ridiculously cheesy songs… I was kinda drunk during that moment so it’s hard to remember what actual songs they were playing..

But it was funny as hell!

"This is not Vietnam, Smokey, there are rules here." - Walter Sobchak

by Rose Colored Goggles on Oct 30, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I heard about it

But of course they didn’t show any on the broadcast. Hopefully it’s up on Youtube, or will be soon.

In honor of the dearly departed, I declare July PB&J month - everyone raise a sandwich to the memory of Ben!

by wjb1492 on Oct 30, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was pretty hilarious

"This is not Vietnam, Smokey, there are rules here." - Walter Sobchak

by Rose Colored Goggles on Oct 30, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

i need to see this.

"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"

by Jaina on Oct 30, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

YFBB

Where do you get a box score with ORB%, DRB%, TOr and whatnot?

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Oct 30, 2009 10:12 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

gratzi

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Oct 30, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Firefox has been slow/a memory hog when I leave it open on my mac ...

bah, I might have to switch back for this.

I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]

by Prevenge on Oct 30, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

there could be others out there.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 30, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh, if I really wanted I could probably port the code

but I’m lazy, and Google isn’t turning anything up.

I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]

by Prevenge on Oct 30, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, #@^ it,

if I get time I’ll do it. Seems easy enough looking from the outside in, I’m sure it’ll take hours and hours when I do it but oh well, that’s the nature of these things.

I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]

by Prevenge on Oct 30, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

give it up for that Noah pass to Luol.

by YaoPau on Oct 30, 2009 10:12 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

for sure. im glad they are using noah as a passing weapon.

even last night when noah didnt have a prayer of working individual offense outside of putbacks, noah was still able to be a threat with his passing. though i felt they kind of went away from him in the second half.

Monkeys are like nature's humans.

by TheMoon on Oct 30, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Tyrus and his monster 3rd quarter was my focal point of the night

Tony Parker had zero 2nd half points, but he should have two 4 easy ones. They were layups that Tyrus took away from him with terrific hustle. They are layups Tony Parker makes all the time. That’s his game to slip in the paint and get easy ones. It’s how he finishes 5th in the NBA in points in the paint last season and shoots over 50% from the field.

Tyrus and his two blocks were screaming at Parker that you will get nothing.

Where was the crowd though? The Spurs rebounded one block and Bonner put in a floater. But the 2nd block should have put the fans on their feet in preparation for the transition bucket executed from a 5-4 advantage as Parker was still on his butt at the other end.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Oct 30, 2009 10:20 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm curious

about how Derrick’s ankle feels today. I really hope he’s ready to go tonight.

A lot of positive things from last nights game. Very nice to see Derrick play even though he was in pain. Lu and Kirk looked great last night. Hope John can start hitting some of those shots he missed last night. The organization said the team was moving to a more defensive direction and it showed last night.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Oct 30, 2009 11:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Congrats on a great season opener.Hopes are up again!

Last night I counted 5-7 jumpshots Duncan made over Noah all of them from the left.Remember that off the glass?Is there anything Noah could do or is it impossible to defend that kind of shots.I was kinda mad to watch that.

General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.

by Azabullsfan on Oct 30, 2009 11:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You want Duncan to go to his left when he's in the mid post on the left side of the court

This is where he takes his Timmy Tumbles trying to beg his way to the charity stripe.

Noah should use both hands and shake them in Timmy’s face showing him the middle. Noah was showing him the baseline.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Oct 30, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even if Noah didn’t do his best on defense,it’s still Tim Duncan I mean really the guy is the best PF in 10 years.Some ppl say Timmy is the best ever and you can make a good point,so Duncan scoring that much and rebounding like that doesn’t hurt that much.When you say that Noah is going to guard him 1 on 1 you expect those numbers.VDN picked his poison and it was Timmy we didn’t double team him so 1 on 1 with Noah and we lived and won.Good job VDN !!!!!

by bears rock on Oct 30, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crap my bad he is a C

by bears rock on Oct 30, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I actually prefer it when big time scorers put up big scoring numbers. Bulls fans should know what can happen when your scorer just does everything and the other 4 have the best seats in the house. You lose a lot.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Oct 30, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WATCH OUT....

Now Rose is starting to get foul calls going his way. If he starts to get more foul calls he can become way more efficient this year. Hope this continues!!

The Dude Abides

by Savage23 on Oct 30, 2009 12:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Was the uber-creepy MJ impersonator

Kobe Bryant?

Sorry, wrong MJ, I know… couldn’t resist…

"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris

by bullhockey on Oct 30, 2009 12:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thoughts

Some quick observations…

Overall – the team played with a lot of energy, which is great to see. It seemed to me that the Spurs were missing a lot of open shots though. Jefferson comes to mind for a couple of wide open misses, and while he is a streaky shooter, it seemed like we were getting some of the benefits of playing the Spurs off of the back-to-back when those weren’t falling.

Hinrich – played great off the bench, especially defensively on Manu. He looked very comfortable and when the Bulls went to the smaller lineup w/ Deng at the 4 they were really playing well.

Noah – if he is becoming the leader of this team we are in really good shape. Great on the boards and I actually think he did a decent job on Duncan when he faced up against him. He challenged the bank shot all night, but there’s a reason Duncan is the best PF in the game.

Deng – was encouraged by the return of his mid-range game, but the most impressive play for me was when he seemingly skied for a rebound in the 2nd half. He came down awkwardly and lost it in the corner, but there seemed to be real explosion.

Tyrus – if he plays like he did in the 3rd quarter all season the Bulls will be playing a game 1 at home this year. I did like what Gibson brought to the table as a bench guy with a lot of energy. Maybe a Joakin lite?

by ThisIsJustBanter on Oct 30, 2009 1:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Salmons missed a lot of open shots.

He was 1-9 from 3 point range, most of those open. It’s what happens, and there was a post earlier where i explained why i’m skeptical of the fatigue theory on the 2nd game of the year. When the Bulls lose one of their league high number of back to back games, you won’t hear excuses then either.

Deng definitely stepped it up from preseason, effort-wise.

No way Tyrus can play like that all year. I’m hopeful that he can have a quarter like that each game. Might be enough.

by runningman on Oct 30, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bulls Lineup

How awesome is it to see the Bull’s starting lineup going 6’3, 6’6, 6’9, 6’9, 7’ this year…I got so used to having the duhons/gordons/nocioni/wallace undersized starters the past few years that I forgot what an actual decent sized NBA lineup looks like! I understand that size isn’t everything-but it is fun to know that we aren’t going to go into too many games undersized with this lineup

by BooRad16 on Oct 30, 2009 1:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Bulls players

have size AND skill, which makes all the difference.

But yes, it’s great to see the Bulls “go big”. It wasn’t even a possibility in earlier years.

by runningman on Oct 30, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome game to see live.

Some thoughts:

1. Uber-excited that we can win without shooting well. Just saying.

2. We should have won by more. Two reasons: first, Duncan was unguardable. Noah did a good job I thought preventing him from getting position or taking it to the hoop. The only times I remember Duncan getting in close were on rebounds or drives against Brad. I’d rather have Duncan shooting 15-footers than 5-footers — he just happened to make all of them. Won’t always happen.

Second, we let up in the last two minutes. After Pop sat the starters, the Spurs reserves came out with lots of energy and tightened a 12-point game considerably. Another minute on the clock, and it would have been tense. Not a good sign. It was disappointing to see the Bulls relax so much at the end.

3. Matt, you forgot to mention the quite hilarious “Songs of the 80s” video on the Jumbotron. I know we’ve seen clips of these guys singing corny songs before, but I’d never seen them with this level of “production quality” (including Stacey as emcee). Too many great nuances to name (like the obviousness of Deng wearing sunglasses so he could read a cue card with the lyrics to a song he obviously didn’t know). Relatedly, Aaron Gray is horrible at promotions — his eyes dart from the cue cards to anywhere but the camera. He knows he’s not supposed to stand there reading, but he is too shy to look straight forward. Highly enjoyable.

4. I also enjoyed the ginormous ladder intro with Benny ascending for God-knows-what purpose to that incredibly dramatic Russian music (the name of which I can’t remember at all, but that pops up in movies all the damn time). Wondrously absurd.

I thought we fought in Iraq for freedom of speech

by arjoseph on Oct 30, 2009 1:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

sorry, its from carmina burana.

Monkeys are like nature's humans.

by TheMoon on Oct 30, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice. Thank you very much for the correction.

I thought we fought in Iraq for freedom of speech

by arjoseph on Oct 30, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs


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