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Game Preview #1 - Chicago Bulls vs. San Antonio Spurs

Wow, it's actually starting. I think it's the lack of seeing Rose in the preseason, but I'm not quite ready. I just hope Rose is though. We'll have no idea until the game's underway how injured/rusty he is, or how many minutes he'll play (VDN says more than 20-25).

And it's not exactly the caliber of opponent he can ease his way back against. Not only the Spurs as a total group, but Tony Parker in particular, who'll really test Rose's lateral quickness and whatever increased defensive discipline instilled by camp Vinny this year.

Star-divide

Because remember, this is the new defensive-minded Bulls we've been told about. Throughout camp it was either that talking point, or the one about everyone really getting along. I hope we see it all tonight, it'll have to be a tremendous defensive effort to stop this version of the Spurs, who not only have a healthy big 3 (it is the first week, after all), but also have that group supplemented on offense by Richard Jefferson and Antonio McDyess.

So I'll certainly be looking for a better defense (and defensive rebounding), but also specific improvements from the Bulls offense to make up for the loss of Gordon. Will Hinrich hit a high % of his 3-pointers? Can Salmons and Deng get to the line? Who's taking the end-of-quarter (and end-of-shotclock when magical ball movement fails) possessions over?

And of course, the excitement that starts every season: what we'll see from Noah and Thomas. Sadly even at this stage of their careers, we really don't know. Though I'd be shocked if Noah isn't beasting out of the gate, even against the Spurs frontcourt. I'll be less shocked if VDN tries any early monkeybusiness with the top-7 rotation, but here's hoping he doesn't.

And the frontcourt they'll be facing now features DeJuan Blair! It's not an issue of teams regretting passing Blair. They all will, it'll be who regrets it slightly less. The Bulls had two shots at him, but it'll also depend on how Taj looks - I'm guessing James Johnson won't be getting significant time for a while - to determine just how bad of a whiff it is. Let's just say nearly the entire chapter of the Basketball Prospectus on the Bulls described how bad of a whiff it was.

The Spurs are already off to a good start, steamrolling the Hornets last night. So they're on the second game of a back-to-back, but it wasn't an especially hard night at the office for them. The Bulls will need every break they can get, so hopefully that combined with an opening night crowd (including me! I'll be tweeting!) can help.

This season will not be an easy watch, but for similar reasons it'll always be interesting. The Bulls are in a fight for these playoff spots from the outset, so every win that can be stored away truly matters. Getting one tonight would be huge, though that liklihood makes it more practical to merely root for them to look like they're on track this season.

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i think you misintrepreted VDN's take on the Rose minutes thing...

Asked if 20-25 minutes seemed the right number for Rose, Del Negro said “hopefully more.”

and if it’s a close game late (i don’t really think it will be), you know rose will be out there if he’s looked at all effective and/or healthy. i think if we get killed, it’ll be 20-25 mins for rose, but if it’s close most of the way, i’d guess it’s more like 30+

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by Calogero on Oct 29, 2009 2:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yup. corrected.

thanks for that.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 29, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

crazy
This season will not be an easy watch

the start to this season will not be an easy watch, but the balance should be a joy. (and you haven’t indicated any difficulty getting your ben gordon fix so far – traitor!) the conference is wide open after the top three, and the bulls will probably steal wins from each of them during the course of the season (tho’ somebody big will have to be hurt to get boston).

if rose is only playing 24 mins tonight, maybe he should come off the bench? parker is the better match for his offense, but trying to defend him could stress that ankle.

sam smith thought they would steal this ’cuz of the old vets on a back to back, but they had it sooooo easy last night. they just collectively sag off the perimeter in their man to man, like those insect-aliens on star trek. gotta be the toughest defense for this bull team to meet.

of course, i’m picking spurs and celts for that reason.

the name of the team is The DIAMONDBACKS

by marionette on Oct 29, 2009 2:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

oh yea

almost forgot. sa didn’t only improve their depth. sure they did…. but the big benefit being they can have 4 three point range threats out there at a time. when duncan is the 5, it’s pure evil.

the name of the team is The DIAMONDBACKS

by marionette on Oct 29, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yay

First preview . . .

First doubts

by Option27 on Oct 29, 2009 2:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nah,

don’t mention it

the name of the team is The DIAMONDBACKS

by marionette on Oct 29, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

speaking of previews...

whats the deal with the preview crew? is that happening or are you taking total control of those responsibilities altogether?

on to game talk…
whats the word on Parker? i heard this morning on the radio he left last night’s game. probably nothing serious but maybe he’s slowed a bit for tonight.
this frontcourt has its work cut out themselves these first 2 games. McDyess/ Duncan/ Jefferson and then KG/ Rasheed/ Pierce. Noah, TT, and Deng have work to do. it will be a good opportunity for Noah though to show if he’s ready to take that next step and become an upper-tier center in this league. i honestly believe he will develop in a year or two into a top-10 center. (i’m not sure if i can name 10 guys better than him right now!)
RJ will definitely test Lu’s leg. RJ has always been active on the offensive end, slashing and driving. Lu should put him to work im the post on D, but we know that won’t happen. but Lu, please, no more ‘jabstep jabstep jabstep jabstep 18ft jumper’.

LETS GO BULLS!!!! i’m so pumped. although i have my league pass, i just love that the first 3 games will be national tv (so all can see our amazing team) and then in Miami (so I can see our amazing team).

we went out for pizza after the game. -dave wannstedt

by BULLieving in Miami on Oct 29, 2009 3:17 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

good question

game previews will definitely be a group effort. Figured opening night was a special occasion.

I haven’t figured out the mechanism to assign game yet, but look for something over the weekend.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 29, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

awesome

i’m game.

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by BULLieving in Miami on Oct 29, 2009 4:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 29, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah! the MSU guy

I always miss the guys that used to post a lot. It’s like they got a life and left me behind.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 29, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Imagine if Thomas had a legitimate threat to steal his minutes?

I will be interested to see the total Win Shares (or APM adjusted to wins) of Gordon vs. Pargo* and Gibson vs. Blair. My guess is that it will account for a 4-6 win difference.

*I have no idea how to account for this since the minutes will be different, but we should try nonetheless.

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by tyger1147 on Oct 29, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I know I am in the minority, but I

hope that VDN uses Rose sparingly until the medical staff is absolutely certain that his injury has fully healed.

A chronic injury to Rose would, for all intents an purposes, end the season.

"We're gonna hire a motherf*cking coach with NO experience? Not as an NBA head coach, not as an NBA assistant, not as an assistant’s assistant, not as a college coach, not as a high school coach, not as f*cking grade school coach, not as a coach of the Lovabulls, not as a coach of the towel boys, not even as a coach of a dynasty on Playstation. Nothing. Really? Really, Pax?" - 1958ChiTown's Initial Reaction to the Hiring of Vinny Del Negro, posted on June 7, 2008 at 2:41 PM.

by 1958ChiTown on Oct 29, 2009 3:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The injury will not heal all season

The injured area makes it like plantar fascitis. Every step he takes it delays the healing. Every leap he takes it delays the healing. They already had him in the air cast for a brief period, but that didn’t change anything.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Oct 29, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where did you her Plantar Faciitis?

If that is true, I definitely agree, but all the reports say that it was just sweeling on the tendon near the ankle, whereas Plantar Fasciitis is in on the soles of your feet, the tendons connecting the balls of your feet to your heel

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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 29, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dr. NBAO

says it ‘makes it like’ plantar fascitis.

I’m not a fake doctor, so I can’t corroborate that.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 29, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Oh, I see, missed that, my bad.

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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 29, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've never heard a diagnosis;

they’ve actually been fairly elusive in that regard.

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by MPG on Oct 29, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you saying

the injury reports may all just be subterfuge to fool our opponents?

The way I have read it is this.

Rose: Play me. It’s not perfect, but I know my body.

VDN: It’s preseason and we need Rose healthy. Rest is good.

Bulls Team Physician of the year 2008-09: I’m not clearing Rose to play.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Oct 29, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure why the Bulls do things-

there doesn’t appear to be an underlying design to a lot of their decisions. But it’s worried me that I haven’t heard the name of the tendon, or the MRI findings, as teams generally tend to release the information when the diagnosis is benign. Here’s what I think – they don’t know what’s up with him. They used the phrase fluid behind the tend before – which could mena something as simple as edema or scary as indicating outright avulsion. And I think you’re probably right with respect to how the conversation plays out. But I hope the Bulls have been mindful of how weird Derrick is with respect to the possibility of damaging himself. Examples – the weird braggadocio with which he talked about nearly blowing out his knee by practicing to hard. More recently, he actually referred to “telling doctors what they want to hear” so he could play more.

I couldn’t be more in your corner on this one. The Bulls better know what they’re dealing with, and they better be managing it conservatively. Otherwise…we screwed.

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by MPG on Oct 29, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

my lord that was a lot of grammatical errors.

sorry folks…lot of late nights lately.

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by MPG on Oct 29, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

KC said last week

he was told the name of the tendon but couldn’t remember the exact name.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Oct 29, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now is probably as good a time as any to bring up some areas that I think Derrick has to improve this year:

Motor. After watching Westbrook, Rondo and Paul play, this year and last, one area is his overall motor. I watch those guys and they are CONSTANTLY moving and making things happen. Offensively and defensively. Derrick coasted way too much last year in my opinion. I think his steals were one stat that was indicative of that. He just needs to get more active, on the glass, in passing lanes, looking for guys, just everywhere. (by the way, I’m not putting Westbrook in those other guy’s class, just sayin’ it’s a good comparison cause they were both rooks).

Assists. He really did not show very good court vision at all last year. He has to be among the worst at his position at throwing lobs. He never seemed to look for the big pass play ever and even when it was a gimme the pass always seemed to be a bit too high or just a little off. I also think that his assist totals were low because he never patrolled the paint like a lot of great point guards do. He would always go out near mid court and just jet in, really not looking for anybody. I’d like to see him move a little slower, keep his eyes up constantly and become a bit more of a thinker out there.

End of games/quarters. With the departure of BG this particular spot could be very important. It really bugged me because it always seemed like he had no clue whatsoever at the end of games (could very well be coaching). For a guy that has relative ease getting his jumpshots off because teams are so afraid of his speed, and considering he shot the ball so well last year (two point shots) I’d really like to see him use that as more of a weapon in crunch time. For some reason he always seemed compelled to just drive aimlessly into the lane and force up a shot when there were usually 2 big guys back there waiting for him to do just that. A jump shot can be your friend.

Free throws. This one is gonna be huge. He did not get to the line nearly enough last year. A lot of people here think that this was just him being unlucky or simply being a rook and not getting calls, I disagree. Even another rook like Westbrook dominated him in this area and a new guy like Johnny Flynn has already shown a penchant for getting to the line. You have to play TO and play UP the contact in the NBA. All the great ones can do it, he’s gotta learn.

Overall, I think he should do very well. It might be harsh to be so critical seeing as he’s only played one (very good) season, but when a guy is charged with taking an entire (cheap ass) franchise out of mediocrity I don’t see anything wrong with holding him to a little higher standard and nitpicking a little.

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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 29, 2009 4:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

re: free throws

yes, I forgot when mentioning making up for BG’s free throws, that Rose has to pick of some of that slack as well.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 29, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good post.

Regarding your comment about Rose not patrolling the paint, a la Chris Paul, it’s not going to come natural for Derrick. He may never be that type of guy. He’ll probably be the best scoring point guard in year or two, in terms of going one on one in an iso setting. His vision isn’t great and he doesn’t have that smooth dribbling style that allows for Paul to roam in a controlled, slow fashion within the paint. They’re very different players. However, Derrick can be just as effective doing the a) drive and kick thing and b) pick and roll/pop. He’ll demand more help than Paul because he’s bigger and better finisher, so as long as he’s surrounded by enough good shooters he’ll rack up a solid amount of assists.

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by dakoose on Oct 29, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

Paul is amazing at that (Nash is great at it as well), and it might be unfair to expect him to do that, but he does have to get better at pick and roll and slow down a bit

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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 29, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, wanted to mention that in my rant below...

he may just be more of a scoring point guard and never be a double digit assists guy. i hope not but it could be trending that way.

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by BULLieving in Miami on Oct 29, 2009 4:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Why do you hope not?

It’s unconventional, but there’s nothing wrong(in my book) with having a scoring first point guard. Derrick averaged 6.3 ass/gm last year, as a rookie, and I don’t see why he couldn’t a) bump that up by 2 or so assists and b) become more efficient, i.e. cut down on the giveaways. With time, Derrick should have a 3pt stroke, become more assertive and have no problem posting 24-28 pts, 8-9 ass, 5-6 reb and 1+stl per game. In case you haven’t noticed, I’m bullish on Rose, and like Adidas, think he’s gonna be one of the faces of the league in the very near future.

Metal sharpens metal.

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by dakoose on Oct 29, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I also think Derrick can be a very, very good back to the basket PG.

He already finishes well with both hands, he could be very effective in the low block. Look at the guys in our division: Brandon Jennings, TJ Ford, Mo Williams, Rodney Stuckey. Stuckey aside, Derrick could obliterate the other three guys down on the block.

Metal sharpens metal.

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by dakoose on Oct 29, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea, I never understood why the whole "scoring point guard" thing

had such a negative connotation. Seeing as guys like Kobe and Brandon Roy essentially play point guard for a majority of their games and people aren’t bitching about that, I don’t see the big issue.

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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 29, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't have an issue with it

but as far as i can think, past champs and finalists, save Jordan of course, have had that distributor type PG. just the champs alone you have guys like Parker (though that might be a bad example), Billups, Fisher, Jason Williams, Avery Johnson, Kenny Smith, Isaiah Thomas, Magic. and thats not including guys like Stockton, Kevin Johnson, Gary Payton, Jason Kidd.

when i think scoring point guards i think of Marbury (not saying Rose is that), Steve Francis, Penny. guys whose teams fizzled big time. if we wanna make Rose the SG then fine, maybe you bring in a taller ball distributing guard to complement him, ala Ron Harper, but i honestly think a pure shooter next to him (kinda like someone we had) is a better compliment to him. spaces the floor better. i’m of the opinion the possesion should begin with Rose, so he should be the PG.

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by BULLieving in Miami on Oct 29, 2009 4:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

nitpicking is fine

i usually don’t like to nitpick role players because thats what they are: complementary. they usually excel in one or two things but are not usually judged on their overall game. the top two or three players on your team are definitely accountable and open game to criticism, because ideally they should be the ones setting the example/tone for your team.

i agree with the motor aspect. the kid is definitely athletic as hell, but he’s not as active as we would hope. maybe he just reserves the energy to go all out at the rim, or, partiularly on D, he’s just a bit lost out there (totally possible) so he kinda glues his feet to the floor. i agree he has to improve. funny you mentioned Westbrook because although i didn’t see him play much last year, when i did, definitely active and i started feeling he was gonna take the ROY award.

with regards to assists, i actually think he isn’t a bad passer but his vision must improve and maybe just look to be more of an active distributor, meaning don’t just bring it up and the pass it off imediately and call that distributing. guys like chris paul get the assists and still manage to put up 20 points a night, and Rose is way more athletic and more capable of getting to the rim. just look to set up others more. and with the lobs, i don’t know who he played with in high school and i don’t watch much college ball, so maybe he isn’t used to playing with leapers like TT, so he’s not used to that particular play. thats all i could come up with. plus i’m not sure its a part of the offense they practice much. Paul and Chandler had that down to a science. they probably practiced it til they threw up (Semi-Pro reference). they should do the same with Rose and TT.

jeez i’m long winded.

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by BULLieving in Miami on Oct 29, 2009 4:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Well the good thing is

you get a feeling that he wants to be great. He just has to learn that the best players in the world have an affect on the game constantly when they’re out there. Just look at LeBron or Chris Paul, they’re head is always in the game. I think he’ll get better at this, but he’s gotta learn to constantly stay involved

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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 29, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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by BULLieving in Miami on Oct 29, 2009 4:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Agree with you on the passing aspect

I had read numerous scouting reports that depicted Rose as having great court vision and having the ability to create easy baskets for others. I was somewhat disappointed to find most of Rose’s assist last year came when he drove in the lane and then kicked it back out to someone for an 18 foot jumpshot. To me, he didn’t seem to be able to create as many easy baskets for his teammates as was initially advertised. I think court vision is something that in innate so I am not too sure if he will ever be a 10 assist guy. That being said, I still love DR and I hope I am wrong about his passing ability.

by MrBungle on Oct 29, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2nites prediction

Bulls lose in close game. VDN & Bulls use Derrick’s ankle & lack of preseason practice with Derrick as excuse.

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by IamClassic on Oct 29, 2009 4:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

“It’s a process, ya’ know? We’ve had injuries and things, and guys haven’t really played together. I don’t have any magic dust to sprinkle on and make everything work, guys have to practice and work hard and we’re getting guys back and I expect things to get better, it’s a continual process…” – VDN postgame

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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 29, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"I thought Kurt gave us a lift"

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 29, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Parker had a nasty fall last night

One of those brutal have your legs pushed out from under you and fall 6 feet horizontally onto a hard wood floor.

They say he just had his wind knocked out of him and he is fine. But they kept him out of the game and he didn’t stick around to talk to reporters.

I bet he has a nasty bruise. I’m sure he can play through it, but don’t think he is a 100%. Maybe Rose and/Or Hinrich will have some success staying in front of him. Then the only problem is Duncan, Ginobli, Jefferson, and that 6’5" 300lb dude that gets off on tearing the arms of taller, skinnier forwards out of sockets.

by silentpete on Oct 29, 2009 4:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll be heading out in a couple hours

to enjoy my upper level seats. I think we have a shot tonight, but not necessarily because of what old Sam said about the Spurs on a back to back. Duncan only had 9 points last night and they won easily, and when we say the Spurs’ vets can’t handle back to backs, we’re referring to Timmy, right? I mean, there’s Manu, Finley and McDyess who contribute but the Spurs got a little younger and more athletic with contributions from Parker, Blair, Mason, Hill and Jefferson (assuming he contributes more than 5 points tonight).

I just think the Bulls have a shot to carry over some momentum from the preseason in Noah, Tyrus and Taj and hopefully have Rose back will fire the team up. We also have to assume Pargo’s going to hit a shot at some point if he gets in the game. I think it’s at least going to be close.

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by Rose Colored Goggles on Oct 29, 2009 4:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Poor shot selection put the Hornets in a deep hole last night

The 2nd quarter was a jump shot traffic jam. Everyone was jacking it up. This led to transition opps for the Spurs who used them to get to the line. The Spurs just jammed the ball into the paint on penetration looking for the foul or kicking out for rotation around the perimeter until the wide open shooter was found.

It was very poor play from the Hornets and it is exactly the kind of play I worry our guys are going to put up a lot this year. Our shots either have to fall or we have to get to the line.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Oct 29, 2009 4:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yep. its pretty bad that the three best players in the league (james, paul and wade)

are on teams that are both poorly constructed and boring to watch. this is the best argument for the 2010 reshuffle in my mind.

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by TheMoon on Oct 29, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has anyone really "seen Gallinari play"?

The guy was basically injured all of last year. And just because he’s shown to be a good shooter in limited minutes doesn’t mean I’m ready to annoint him as the Scotty to Lebron’s Michael. Sorry.

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by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 29, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

quick picks on the post

-the bulls passed up on blair twice: The bulls werent the only ones who passed up on blair twice, at least 10 other teams passed up on blair twice…everyone was told to concern for the injured leg, my guess is that the spurs really didnt care who they drafted, picked him being the biggest name they knew, and ended up lucking out….

-Who will take theend of game shots: ::snickers:: Derrick rose at the end of games

Dont ask me what i mean by that…

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Oct 29, 2009 4:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

isn't that what I said?

the Bulls will regret taking Blair. Other teams will too.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 29, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think i was more passing up the fact that you said

the bulls passed on him twice….as if that made them even worse than the rest of the teams..every team passed on him once, and at least a third passed on him twice…the bulls were

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Oct 29, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it doesn't make things worse?

than passing him once?

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 29, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea sorry i was in a rush when i typed that so its wierd...

but yea it does make things worse, im just pointing out that it wasnt just them who made the stupid mistake of passing on blair twice, they were as stupid as a third of the rest of the nba teams…so while the bulls are in the wrong for not using one of the draft picks on blair, i wonder if the spurs had they had two late first round picks wouldve seriously picked up blair….but i guess its more speculation on my part…spurs picked him up in mid second round, i mean at that point in the draft really who was left….although i guess taj gibson really did come out from left field…i figure he was the next good big man after blair that the bulls liked and that was available…can anyone really say anything otherwise?

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by piccolomair on Oct 29, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Teams didn't question his ability, they question his long term health.

It’s still too early to determine whether not drafting him was a mistake or not.

by MrBungle on Oct 29, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He wouldn't have cost them much and would have

been on a trial run during his rookie deal. If something bad happened they don’t have to sign him after his rookie contract was up. If we took that risk with our second pick it wouldn’t have been much of a risk at all really. That deep in the draft any guy you pick might not be in the league after a few years anyway. If he stayed healthy he’d definitely be in the league and be a top ten talent. If he doesn’t…well you got a few good years out of him. Much more than the average late pick. It might have been too much of a risk for the 16th pick, but not the pick we ended up using on Taj.

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by cranscape on Oct 29, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think they would regret it...

If they had actually taken him?

Why isn't your friendly Bulls Blogger friendly?

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 29, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bulls will regret taking him. other teams will too.

isn’t what he said?????

lol

the name of the team is The DIAMONDBACKS

by marionette on Oct 29, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the the Spurs knew exactly who DeJuan was.

They wouldn’t have their track record if they drafted based on name. I would bet my house that they knew exactly who they were picking (knees and all), and knew exactly who they were passing over.

by silentpete on Oct 29, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair though

the Spurs probably don’t give a shit about anything except for this year. They saw a guy that could possibly be of some help as a super specialist this season ans said “to hell with the medical stuff” Tim Duncan is getting old and their window is closing. I’m sure many other teams were not ready to assume that risk

"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro

by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 29, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's so freakin fat, he's going to get winded after 10 minutes

He reminds me of somebody else. Blair is 2.01 m and 277lbs, Player A is 2.03m and 275lbs. Blair has 7’2’’ wingspan and 8’ 10.5" standing reach, Player A had 7’1’’ wingspan and 8’ 11.5" standing reach.

Congratulations San Antonio, you have Player A Michael Sweetney without the illustrious college career or hype.

by NittanyCub on Oct 29, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm really bad at detecting internet sarcasm

but just in case: he doesn’t look so fat to me:

by darksmokepuncher on Oct 29, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neither did Mike

Haha, look at Drug Lord Tractor Traylor in the mix

by NittanyCub on Oct 29, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We have a winner!

"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro

by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 29, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Put me in coach.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oQ6fBv9KWQ

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Oct 29, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking Lurch

Celtic Pride (obscure, I know).

Yo, coach, I’ll play. Just give me a chance. I can handle the rock.

by NittanyCub on Oct 29, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

very true, but they're moving in opposite directions

Sweetney put on weight after college, whereas Blair is losing it.

and jesus christ….what is Tractor Traylor even doing in that picture, besides blocking out half of the lights in the stadium

by darksmokepuncher on Oct 29, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Tractor Traylor and Mike Sweetney

collided, would they reach critical mass?

"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith

by Granny Waiters on Oct 29, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This game should be a piece of cake for the Bulls.....you ask why?

Last year the Spurs were 54-28 with injuries to key players like Ginnobli. The Bulls were 41-41 while losing Deng.
The Spurs have added Richard Jefferson, Antonio McDyess and DeJaun Blair. They can hardly compare to our big 3 of Taj Gibson, Jannero Pargo and JJ. The Spurs creamed the Hornets with 9 guys in double figures last night while Kurt, Luol and Rose are coming off injuries.
They have Popovich while we counter with Vinny.

Don’t these facts add up to a big blowout by the Bulls? But what do I know? I took the Bears over Cincy last week and gave 3 points to my neighbor who lives and dies with the Cowboys.

If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard

by Tyrusmancrush on Oct 29, 2009 5:06 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

"Wheels" I like that, that one could stick.

"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro

by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 29, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Italian Stallion

I like it.

Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.

by stupidgenius on Oct 29, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm looking forward to

Taj trying to box out Blair for a defensive rebound before Blair does this to him.

by YaoPau on Oct 29, 2009 5:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gotta admit I'm worried about Rose vs Parker.

He’s gonna be rusty and out of shape. Hopefully not pressing too.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Oct 29, 2009 5:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Parker is probably going to torch him.

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Oct 29, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They'll bring Kirk in to put out that fire!

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by cranscape on Oct 29, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, Parker is the type of PG that Kirk also struggles with. Speedy guys go right past him.

See: Ford, T.J.

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Oct 29, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's why

we have Lindsey

by YaoPau on Oct 29, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lol

was wondering why…

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Oct 29, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We better give him a lot of help.

I just hate to see that young man fail.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Oct 29, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is a game tyrus could dominate.

Matt Bonner trying to keep him off the glass? Please.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Oct 29, 2009 5:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

lololol I know alot more about football then basketball,but I can honestly say the bulls will loose.I also see a great game,that will be decided between 4 points.Noah will have a much better game then T T.Deng needs a break out game,idk if he will or tell you with confidence he will but he needs too.If Rose plays and Deng has a really really good game we might have a chance.

by bears rock on Oct 29, 2009 6:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WHO IS PUMPED? I AM!

Derrick Rose will lead us back to the promise land.

In Vinny We Trust!

by DRose#1 on Oct 29, 2009 6:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs


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