Bulls elect captains, and more Bulls season predictions
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 26, 2009 5:45 PM CDT
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The players voted captains for this season (ht: Chicagoist, of all places), and your winners are holdovers Hinrich and Deng, and new captain...Jannero Pargo Lindsey Hunter [I swear that post originally said Pargo]. This process and result never manages to get less lame. I know they're mostly in charge of talking to the officials, but is it that crazy for the captains to perhaps include your best player (Rose) , or the actual vocal defensive leader (Noah)? And this raises the Lindsey Hunter uselessness index to unprecedented heights.
With everyone practicing again, it looks like no prediction revisions are necessary, though I suppose Rose missing nearly all of preseason doesn't exactly help his great leap forward.
A few Bulls season previews were unveiled lately:
- ChicagoNow: (45-37). I poked at Doug a bit on my awesome twitter feed for his cheesy intro, but all in all he's not really as optimistic as he says. And he's one of the rare folks who isn't absolutely expecting Rose to become much better next season.
- By the Horns: (46-36). Now this is outright optimism. 'No sweat' on losing Gordon, Pargo is "a fearless and streaky shooting assassin", the Bulls have height and depth and skills, and bench guys good enough to startfor most other teams. And while it correctly illuminates the discrepancy between the Bulls offensive and defensive rebounding, the solution to the defensive rebounding is Noah&Thomas rebounding harder.
- BullBearSock: (48-34). Certainly comprehensive, though praising Salmons for being less of a black hole than Gordon isn't a good start.
- Marc Stein unveiled his initial power rankings, projecting a 'modest improvement' and a 5th seed.
- Basketball Prospectus has two projections, one for 36 wins and another for 45. And as a later announcement, you should all buy BP's book. It even features a blurb from yours truly, and it's actually in praise of a Bulls player.
Elsewhere, KC has some choice quotes (ht: ChicagoNow) from Luol Deng about his progress this preseason. It sounds like Luol acknowledges the lack of 'lift' he's shown, but feels it's a form of rust and conditioning, not some lingering aspect of the injury. What I do quibble with is this insistence (from no less of a source than Deng himself) that he needs 'rhythm' and a 'system' to be effective. If that is true, that's not a $70m player, even when healthy. But that contract's long done, so I'll settle for him being mildly overpaid as a 'system' player than wildly overpaid as a jumpless one.
And as a random other link, Steve Schanwald (yes, that one) explains why the Bulls moved their home start times up from 7:30 to 7 this season.
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Pargo
Jannero Pargo is the glue that holds this team together!
by chapuforyou on Oct 26, 2009 5:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
captains?
Pargo? Deng?
It does get any worst than this…
"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"
by exult463 on Oct 26, 2009 5:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oops I read it wrong.. Pargo is not elected captain!
But wimpy Deng is!
"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"
by exult463 on Oct 26, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait u didnt read it wrong...matt wrote it wrong>?
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on Oct 26, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does it seem like the Paxson's Bulls are homie like an adult park district team?
"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"
by exult463 on Oct 26, 2009 5:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That article says Hunter is the third captain - not Pargo
That would make a bit more sense than Pargo at least.
by SouthernCub on Oct 26, 2009 5:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wtf...
I swear it said Pargo.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 26, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or maybe the news about pargo sitting had me transpose it in the captains announcement.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 26, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't give a damn what Luol says,
there is no reason he should be in such poor shape. He’s lumpy, slow and has no explosiveness. I can understand the latter, as hopefully that will return as he recovers, but to be in such bad shape? He’s an NBA athlete, and as such, should be among the best conditioned athletes in the planet, and anything less is a disappointment in my book. (I could rant for days on this topic, as out-of-shape pro’s piss me off like nothing else on this earth.)
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
by dakoose on Oct 26, 2009 5:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He had a stress fracture in his leg, so he could not train this off season like everyone else.
Of course he is going to be some what out of shape. At least Noah looks great.
by Unrealcity on Oct 26, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I wouldn't give the guy grief for being out of game shape this time...
Missing an entire spring/summer of floor time with the leg injury will keep you out of game shape.
by SouthernCub on Oct 26, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well you could try swimming if you really were serious?
"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"
by exult463 on Oct 26, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He DID swim. A lot, apparently.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 26, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can't train his upper body.
I’ve weight trained for years and had my fair share of injuries, and never once has one injury kept me from training a different part. Meaning, when I strained/kind of tore my rotator cuff a few months back, I could still do my flexibility drills and work lower body. When I had a tearing in my quad I trained my upper body and maintained my conditioning. I’m just some guy with a gym membership, Luol has the worlds finest equipment and first class trainers, he could and should be in shape. With the season opener just a couple of days away, I think it’s unacceptable for Luol, or any other player(Hunter) to be so soft at this point.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
by dakoose on Oct 26, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Title meant to read he CAN train his upper body.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
by dakoose on Oct 26, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did train
his upper body didn’t he?
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 26, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure don't look like it.
He’s never had an NBA body, but this year it’s worse than before.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
by dakoose on Oct 26, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it does
look like it. I thought they said he put on 5 #’s of muscle.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 26, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
5 lb's of muscle is nothing over the course of an entire offseason, especially
without the energy expenditure of practicing. And unless you’re well defined, a difference of five pounds is tough to spot.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
by dakoose on Oct 26, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear you -
I’m so sick of hearing about how hard Luol works. If Luol works as hard as everyone says, he would be absolutely cut.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Oct 26, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN 1000 reports
its not pargo its lindsey hunter…is brad miller to baddass to be a captain?
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on Oct 26, 2009 6:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Brad would be a good choice too.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 26, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea an actual veteran
who is good….really IT CAN happen, someone tell the organization quick
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on Oct 26, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Miller makes more sense than Hunter...
I realize Hunter is a nice guy and all, but I feel like you actually have to play in order for the captainship to mean anything.
At least with Deng and Hinrich, they have a reputation for being amicable with the refs and they’ll both play 25+ mpg.
by SouthernCub on Oct 26, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Brad's waiting for next year
When Lindsey can officially move to the bench and he can take over the role as “formerly solid contributor now collecting the league minimum while providing nothing but veteran presence on the bench.” Of course, I would expect and hope that Brad could still deliver more on the court than Lindsey has in his tenure with the Bulls.
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Ronald Reagan
by snley on Oct 26, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
isn't one of the few responsibilities of the captain talking to the refs?
and hunter will never be in the game…
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 27, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
never say never with vdn
"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH
by Illini0509 on Oct 27, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In this article it says
the captains meet with the officials before the game. I think that’s where people are confused.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/basketball/bulls/1847911,CST-SPT-bull27.article
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 27, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like deng and hinrich
but this is obviously an honorary or political thing.
the real captains are noah, rose, and miller.
the name of the team is The DIAMONDBACKS
by marionette on Oct 26, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh
I think you can say that noah and rose are the best players on the team, or the favorites (of the fans) on the team, but i dont think that relates to teh captains gig. The only special ability (at least league wide) the captains get is the ability to talk to refs. From that aspect i really cant see noah and his energy man child attitude will actually help to work over refs, might actually annoy them more. Noah is definetly a leader on the defensive end on the court, but its less “hey everybody get in your spots” and more “ARHHHH LETS GO BABY!!!” and though that helps motivate a team, i dont think its the same as leading it or being captain like…
Rose will be a captain next year no doubt, he still has the humblest attitude and reallly looks the part of the youngest and shyest member of the team, so he probably didnt even raise his hand to be nominated. Next year the coaches will no doubt push him inot that role….
Deng is regarded league-wise as some peace negotiator, prime minister leader type individual, if nothing else this puts him in a great position to talk to team mates (even if they think he is full of crap) and refs. Aside from that maybe the teams third best player even now (sad huh) and is a veteran of the team.
Hinrich i believe is the most captain like. Even in 2k10 they talk about him being an extension of the coach on the court, and even in the skiles days he was that kind of player. I question how good he is with the refs, but in terms of leading a team, he might know the plays on both offense and defense better than vdn ( i know, thats not saying alot) he is a shy media guy but on the court, especially on the offensive end he is the most vocal constantly talking to guys and telling them where to be. I figure that hinrichs handles the team elements of a captain, while deng handles much of the league elements of being a captain.
That being said, i rather have brad miller be the captain aside from lindsey hunter, i mean hunters already a freakin assistant coach, does he really need to have the title of captain too. Miller is actually good on both ends of the court, can lead a team with play and enthusiasm, and has respect (fear) from the league, he can talk to refs and knows how to talk to refs, and will actually be in games playing for regular minutes…..
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on Oct 26, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There will be problems..it is no way Deng can fulfill Vinny anticipated hope! The Battle begins and Deng hates pressure..
“We do have other guys who have versatility, but you need to have your top players play at a high level,” Del Negro said. “That’s the way it is in this league.”
2006-07 was a “ship passing in the night” when defenses were not considering Deng, but keying on other offensive weapons on that team. Now scouting reports have been produced and defensive assignments communicated on how to stop Deng, and they determine it doesn’t take much. So at least he believes he can do other things for 71 milion.
I’m never in favor of a captain who’s primary concern is correcting his personal game, because he therefore is not in position to expect or demand more from other players.
"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"
by exult463 on Oct 26, 2009 6:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
interesting
“Derrick Rose said he’s hoping to become a captain as soon as next year.”
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 26, 2009 6:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, there goes my whole
“we got our number one option and undisputed leader” deal. Sheeeeeeeeeyet.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Oct 26, 2009 6:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why not elect Aaron Gray as captain?
He is our tallest player.
[barf]
by KentuckyBullsFan on Oct 26, 2009 6:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Captains are voted on by the team
If Rose keeps improving as we all assume he will, he’ll be elected Captain next year
by wiltfongjr on Oct 26, 2009 6:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
who cares?
players vote anyway, and it didn’t even say who put their names in for contention. yeah it’s kinda lame, but the outside perception of leadership evidently isn’t the same as the one from the players’ perspectives.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
by Jaina on Oct 26, 2009 6:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think
you are right that the players see the qualities (perception) of a leader differently from the fans.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 26, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Calogero mentioned .."drew gooden was captain last year...man that was dumb."
you give these players to much credit.
And remove responsibility from the backoffice and coaching staff who all continuelly run the Bulls like my local park district.
"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"
by exult463 on Oct 26, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you don't
give them enough credit.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 27, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow! that interchange sounds exactly like a disagreement I might have with my wife!
"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"
by exult463 on Oct 27, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
straight up dysfunctional!
I guess we you go to work tomorrow, you can think…your boss really isn’t you boss, but maybe you and your co-workers see you as the real boss but you don’t get the pay like the boss or have any authority? Dysfunctional!
Who really cares what these players think? They need instruction and guidance. Something this organization has proven time and time again, it LACKS! Actually most of them are suck-ups and shouldn’t be given too much authority many times or the choice to select a captain…
They can’t even select a Captain! First two, now three, next they will have four captains, eventually 8 captains? Kiss a$$ players!
"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"
by exult463 on Oct 26, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty discouraging
when your captains are a 6th man, a quiet, walking injury with arguably the worst contract in the league, and a 38-year-old who can barely play basketball anymore. I can understand Rose not being a captain since he doesn’t exactly say much, but Noah should have been the #1 choice by far. He plays hard, is the most vocal player on the team, and is constantly trying to get the team fired up. This is just another disappointing move in a long line of them for this disappointing organization.
by Illini15 on Oct 26, 2009 7:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
walking injury with arguably the worst contract in the league
Luol Deng is so outside the realm of “worst contract in the league,” it’s laughable.
by NittanyCub on Oct 26, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really though, if he plays all season like he did this preseason
then he won’t be “so outside the realm” anymore, that’s for sure.
by Illini15 on Oct 26, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Skiles praised Deng for his work ethic
Deng’s earning his money by having to play for such hysterical fans. It’s unfathomable.
Deng is a hard working guy Coach Skiles says is one of the few NBA players who plays to his physical potential.
Stephen Jackson for Loul Deng for all you whiners.
by Noe_Valley on Oct 27, 2009 3:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I"d rather have stephen jackson on the court than deng on the bench
by diedaily23 on Oct 27, 2009 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luol Deng has very little physical potential,
that’s why he’s met it. He’s un-athletic(relative to the league), slow, awkward, etc. etc. Even without all that, I don’t buy what Skiles is selling.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
by dakoose on Oct 27, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wasn't drew gooden a captain last year?
man that was dumb.
and i realize it’s a tad early to start talking about thursday night (or for extreme pessimism), but reading over those season previews from all the unbridled “losing gordon won’ t hurt us at all!” optimists, i really can’t wait to see them begin the season long backtrack on that statement on friday morning after the spurs hold us to 70 points thursday night.
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
by Calogero on Oct 26, 2009 7:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DRose is going for 35 and the Bulls will win by 7.
by Stacey_Is_King on Oct 26, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't be surprised if your prediction is right
It’ll help that Rose gets to go against a poor defender in Tony Parker and the old Spurs will be on the second leg of a back to back with Popovich always willing to rest his better players early in the season.
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Ronald Reagan
by snley on Oct 26, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Parker is a poor defender, but Duncan is a sound defender, as is McDyess, and they
will be defending the rim when Derrick inevitably blows by TP.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 26, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so drose shows off his dribble
i mean imagine the performance he did against rondo game 1, and rondo is a really good peremeter defender (supposedly), blow past him, stop before you get too close to the bigs on the inside, pop the j…..thats how jordan would do it (actually young jordan wouldve kept going and dunked it but whateva…)
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on Oct 26, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jordan had a killer fade-away jumper that he could get off against a triple-team.
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 26, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
rose wont be tripple teamed
in the first game of the season…plus he is a pg, who is more than willing to pass and with better players around him, young jordan (pre 90s) was surrounded by a pretty scrappy squad, and showed the entire league he needed to be double teamed since year one of his career….also i just saw that i wrote “so drose shows off his dribble” i meant shot not dribble…
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on Oct 26, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's true
but I think the lanes are going to be clogged since we don’t have any great shooters outside of deng? Do we even have a 3 point threat outside of gulp hinrich?
by diedaily23 on Oct 27, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never should have gotten rid of Larry Hughes or Tim Thomas.
by chapuforyou on Oct 27, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Salmons also
shot over 40% last year.
Also, reports are that Derrick was working on extending his range and looks comfortable out there.
Deng is capable of hitting a wide open 3.
by runningman on Oct 27, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My mistake, for some reason I thought I remembered Rose doing well agains the Spurs last season
In 2 games, he shot 11-32 from the floor for 22 points and not even a single free throw attempt. My expectations for opening night have been greatly tempered.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
by snley on Oct 26, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IIRC,
George Hill did a great job on Derrick. I doubt the same happens this season.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
by dakoose on Oct 26, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
George Hill looks much improved in the preseason at least.
I dunno.
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
by Prevenge on Oct 27, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
[Also, Rose'll probably have lingering effects form the ankle injury?]
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
by Prevenge on Oct 27, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well i certainly hope youre right
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
by Calogero on Oct 26, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Rose
but with his recent injury and the Spurs interior D. I doubt he dominates like that unless he’s hitting his midrange jumpers or getting to the line…
by diedaily23 on Oct 27, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no biggie. they do that to a lot of teams. plus, the bulls were 0-2 against the spurs last year with gordon
Monkeys are like nature's humans.
by TheMoon on Oct 27, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess it isn't really a big deal.
For the Bulls captains don’t do very much. A shake up in the old regime would have been a symbolic and positive indication things have changed though. That the loyalties were shifting to the younger, more talented guys. Hey, maybe being captain could start to mean something again. Just because it hasn’t for years now doesn’t mean that it can’t change. But business as usual this year. That beeping sound is the Bulls backing into the season. Again.
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by cranscape on Oct 26, 2009 7:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess you're right because winning a championship is not a goal
Being a title contender is not their goal
Playing in the eastern conference final is not their goal
Playing in the second round playoff series is not their goal
Making it to the first round and losing would be nice, but really the goal is somewhere between .475 and ,500 winning percentage and giving the fans a reason to come to the game is the primary goal.
Therefore really selecting a suitable captain that will push other players to be all that they can be is not really necessary!
"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"
by exult463 on Oct 26, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Just think: at the end of this season, there will only be 4 seasons left on Deng's contract.
Zoink!
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
by tyger1147 on Oct 26, 2009 8:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you just made me sad
Kind of a shame the Rockies aren't around to win it for Balloon Boy
-billyok
by blackoutsox on Oct 27, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Byars update:
Guard Derrick Byars made the opening roster. His non-guaranteed deal can be trimmed before January.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-27-bulls-chicago-oct27,0,2252690.story
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by cranscape on Oct 26, 2009 8:42 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Sweet! kid deserved it.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Oct 26, 2009 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome
He’s better than Hunter.
Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.
by stupidgenius on Oct 26, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
“It’s going to be tough, I’ll tell you that,” Rose said. "I’m like an old man. I gotta wait 20, 30 minutes into practice to get loosened up. And it gets stiff when I stop playing. …
“I think his soreness until he gets loose will be a continual process for a while. He’s out of condition a little bit for how we want to play. He’s rusty. These next two days hopefully he can continue to build like he did (Monday) and get better.”
If Rose is limited, look for Hinrich’s role to increase."
2009-2010 season fail. And the season hasn’t even begun.
by NittanyCub on Oct 26, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well seeing how bad pargo has looked
along with pargo, hinrich, and rose all being banged up, it really makes sense to keep byars, especially since his deal doesnt become guaranteed until january. this looks to me like a win-win situation; byars gets a chance to make a mark in the league, and we get essentially a 2 month flyer on him to see if he can contribute. hopefully he fares better than the last two young guards we took a flyer on out of training camp— gardner and curry
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
by Calogero on Oct 26, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck yes!
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
by SoulEater7 on Oct 26, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it says something that
2 of the 3 captains don’t start and the 1 that does didnt play nearly all of last season. What does that say about the faith our team has in noah, rose, salmons, etc
by The90sBullsRevival on Oct 26, 2009 8:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nothing??
???
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on Oct 26, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
“Pargo is a fearless and streaky shooting assassin”…whoever wrote this should have their blog shut down permanently.
Regarding the captain issue, Kirk has been on the team the longest so I’m fine with that. But Miller and Noah should have been the other captains for sure.
by C Smoove on Oct 26, 2009 9:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well I guess Peter Myers should then be the next coach..
"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"
by exult463 on Oct 26, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he may well be.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 27, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess this isn't a surprise
I was looking at it from the perspective of “the captains should be the players best suited to help the team in that role!” While in reality, if I was the new guy at a company and (for whatever reason) we were voting on captains, I wouldn’t dare not vote for someone who was captain the previous year. That would be making an ass of myself for no particular gain, and I’m guessing that went through the minds of Joakim, Salmons, Miller, Rose, and everyone else.
I was kind of holding out hope that Joakim or Derrick would be elected, but given they have 1.5 years of starting experience between them, there’s a decent case to be made for them not getting it. This year.
by YaoPau on Oct 26, 2009 10:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn't Kirk become captain his second year in the league?
I know his name pretty much demanded it, but it just shows it isn’t unheard of. If only Rose was named Clark or Bruce. Hm.
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by cranscape on Oct 26, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that's right
But… Kirk was also the oldest full-time player on the team that year at age 24 :) Four other guys played 26+mpg (Curry, Deng, Chandler, Duhon). Skiles didn’t have much of a choice.
by YaoPau on Oct 26, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, Kirk will always be older than Rose.
Age-ism!
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by cranscape on Oct 26, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suffer from kirk-ism
and Deng-ism. Vinny-ism.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
by SoulEater7 on Oct 26, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only Rose was named Clark or Bruce.
….OOOKAY….
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on Oct 26, 2009 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You did get what I was saying, right?
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by cranscape on Oct 27, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
probably not
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
by tyger1147 on Oct 27, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why are the players voting?
is this common?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 27, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
...because a vote by Vinny is a vote of no-confidence
by KentuckyBullsFan on Oct 27, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate to correct but I think you meant "a vote of no competence"
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
by snley on Oct 27, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this was the same policy when Skiles was coach! It must be coming from higher up?
especially when one considers Skiles personality! Complete Control!
"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"
by exult463 on Oct 27, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is Taj Gibson not a Captain?
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
by SoulEater7 on Oct 26, 2009 10:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Forget captain,
the NBA should already start etching his name into the MVP trophy! Reinsdorf better order that banner for the HOF ceremony.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
by dakoose on Oct 26, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude calm down....I think you're getting ahead of yourself.
they should etch the rookie of the year trophy now. Reads… Taj Gibson Vinny’s boy.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
by SoulEater7 on Oct 26, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't really give two cheeseburger shits about the Captains.....
but it’s going to be funny when the players meet the other teams captains… take for example the BOSTON CELTICS with KG, PP, and Ray Allen shaking hands with Hunter, Deng and Kurt.
Ehhhh it’s just so weak sauce and makes no sense but I can’t really figure out any of the Chicago sports teams these days.
I will say I hope all of our ’’captains’’ are playing for other teams next season.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
by SoulEater7 on Oct 26, 2009 10:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why would that be funny?
The captains don’t play a 3 on 3 game. I’m sure Hinrich, Hunter, and Deng are well respected around the league… and obviously on their own team.
by runningman on Oct 27, 2009 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
it is funny. I bet Hinrich gets some respect, doubt the other two do.
It’s mostly meaningless, just a nice reminder to us watching how far our franchise has to go.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 27, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I disagree with your disagreement
The players voted to give Luol the sportsmanship award a few years ago, which indicates they do respect him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Sportsmanship_Award
Kobe also refused to be traded to the Bulls unless Luol stayed, so there has been respect for his game shown as well.
While you could argue that the respect for his game has waned, there’s nothing to indicate that respect for him a a person has went down, which is all i’m talking about here.
I’ve heard nothing but good things about Hunter over the years. There’s no way to quantify what players feel about him, but the fact that the Bulls players voted him a captain when he isn’t even going to play says something about that.
by runningman on Oct 27, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well fine.
I don’t respect that triumvirate, which is most important.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 27, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha. yeah man, captains should be Noah, Rose and Salmons. or even Brad
Fuck Deng and Hinrich.
D ROSE D WADE DESTINY DYNASTY
by Juan dela Cruz on Oct 27, 2009 2:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Screw it
Just have Brad be captain. Just him. I would love that.
by YaoPau on Oct 27, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can imagine it now
Brad Miller wearing like a Naval Captain’s hat smoking some weed, and then he takes it out of his mouth to say “OK guys, now here’s what we’re gonna do,” all the players REALLY attentive while Vinny sits in the corner crying.
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
by Prevenge on Oct 27, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I understand the voting of Hinrich, but Deng? Why?
He doesn’t deserve the captaincy all he did was to rob Reinsdorf, relax and get injured afterwards. Eff Deng, he isn’t even good during the pre-season games.
D ROSE D WADE DESTINY DYNASTY
by Juan dela Cruz on Oct 27, 2009 1:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It seems the players are rational
and don’t decide the captaincy based on how you performed in preseason.
by runningman on Oct 27, 2009 1:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh
I think the players are confused and they think the term captain means nicest guys. But like I said before I miss the days when things made sense to me. I guess it’s no big deal but it’s just the semantics.
(Meat head 90’s moment) I remember when Randy Brown, Steve Kerr and Luc Longley were the captains.
Ok I’m sorry I had to go that far…. but it should be your best players.. Rose, Noah, Miller or Salmons. Behhhh whatever.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
by SoulEater7 on Oct 27, 2009 9:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i predict 44 wins...
"Accept the mystery."
by Andronicus on Oct 27, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if one of the key responsibilities of the captains is to lobby the refs
than wouldn’t we want Rose out there lobbying for more calls? Is Hunter going to lobby for more calls for Rose? Hinrich?
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 27, 2009 5:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
With all the "ums"
that Derrick uses when he speaks it would take ten minutes to get through a five minute conversation.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 27, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
it will eventually have to be his role if he is going to lead the team
public speaking is a skill. it comes with practice
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 27, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eventually yes.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 28, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Ref! Ummm grumble mumble halaksjdflaksdf"
Doesn’t really have a good ring to it.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 27, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
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