Open Preseason Thread: Bulls at Indiana Pacers
Hey! Bulls are back! The excitement that only a first-round playoff loss can instill has yet to be quenched.
As it turns out, I'm out of town to watch a far more depressing and awful team, but I'll catch up on the tape sometime Sunday. This one is on CSN+ locally.
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Starting Line Ups
Bulls starters: Deng, Thomas, Noah, Salmons Rose/Pacers: Granger , Foster Rush, Ford
he tweets and talks at the same time?
talented guy
by kig on Oct 2, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Should the the regular starting 5
It’ll be interesting to see how they play together. Deng was shut down shortly after we got Salmons (and he wasn’t 100% in the short time they played together), so this is really our first chance to see those 5 together.
If it's online anyway someone please post a link
I’m not local.
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links??
Probably against the TOS. But if you accidently posted it, I won’t tell on you.
download TVAnts
and check http://playandwatch.co.uk
Anyone with an audio only link?
nba.com should have it, but it’s pulling up yesterday’s Utah/Denver link
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another link
http://isportslink.blogspot.com/2009/10/chicago-vs-indiana.html
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When I try to follow the link,
asks for a password.
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by MPG on Oct 2, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know why
It didn’t do that for me. Let me try it again.
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
I just tried the link again
It worked fine for me
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
What about the link basketball smurf put up
That still works for me
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Pretty sloppy
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
Noah with four shots -
you KNOW its the preseason. :)
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by MPG on Oct 2, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Hes at least making them look good
unlike some growing freak of nature shooting the J’s.
DA CUBS DA BEARS DA BULLS
LOL
bring in JJ!
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the Bulls desperately need to install a structured offense
its like guys run up the court taking turns
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 2, 2009 6:20 PM CDT reply actions
pretty helter skelter.
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by MPG on Oct 2, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
Ugh
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working link
http://www.ballerstube.net/2009/10/watch-chicago-bulls-vs-indiana-pacers.html
Bulls fan since 1986.
That's weird
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
This one's working for me, too.
In honor of the dearly departed, I declare July PB&J month - everyone raise a sandwich to the memory of Ben!
Dear Tyrus: You're not a jumpshooter
If he hasn’t figured this out by now, he probably never will.
So pretty by Rose.
totally in control. He can get that shot anytime.
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One, anyway )
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by MPG on Oct 2, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Tyrus looks active tonight.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 6:25 PM CDT reply actions
Taj first off the bench
over JJ
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Richard
looks like a darker Noah with the ponytail.
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
he looks like...
DJ Evil Dee (is on the mic, come on kick it!)
LOL
yeah he does
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Salmons aggressively looking for his shot every time he gets the ball
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 2, 2009 6:32 PM CDT reply actions
Get used to that
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Lindsay Hunter
Yuck!
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
God Hunter sucks.
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Lindsey Hunter is TRBL.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 6:33 PM CDT reply actions
This better be the only time we see him this year
the preseason
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word.
is Kirk not playing tonight?
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by MPG on Oct 2, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Hamstring
Neither are Brad or Jannero
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thanks W-
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by MPG on Oct 2, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
No prob
KC had a post up just before the game. Brad’s out with a groin. I don’t remember him saying anything about Jannero other than mentioning the sports hernia surgery, but I suppose that’s plenty for a preseason game.
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And, of course, Aaron
with that contagious stress fracture.
So we should see lots of Lindsey and the dead men walking training camp invites.
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hamstring
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
thanks
hopefully nothing serious. i can’t bear to watch Lindsey back up the point guard position, even in the preseason
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 2, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice rebound by Taj in traffic
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Taj is awful at finishing.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 6:35 PM CDT reply actions
let's give him a few more chances.
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by MPG on Oct 2, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
That was two easy ass looks and he blew them both. Obviously too early to make
any definitive determinations, but it’s not encouraging.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Well I assumed he wasn't going to be that great at finishing
Isn’t he a hustle/rebounding guy. I was thinking him being good around the basket would be a bonus.
Those were dunks through contact and he didn't get through the contact. But he is a rail, so not all that surprising.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Jeez.
Do you know you nervous these dudes are? Give him a chance. You may be right, but wait to the second half to declare him a poor finished.
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by MPG on Oct 2, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
The good news is we're used to bigs who have trouble finishing. ;)
Our standards should be nice and low by now.
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This is a game thread. It's here for being reactionary. ;-)
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL you got me there.
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by MPG on Oct 2, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
i’ve tried that but says invalid embedded code and tells me to go to another page which doesn’t work. thanks for the link tho; just wish it would work.
I don’t know if this link has been posted but try www.atdhe.net
1st quarter impression
- they seem to be trying on D
- Hunter is really bad
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 2, 2009 6:36 PM CDT reply actions
Does Chris Richards have any chance to make the roster?
or should I completely ignore him
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 2, 2009 6:40 PM CDT reply actions
For any that may care...the HD feed is finally working on Comcast.
In Chicago, channel 285.
Why isn't your friendly Bulls Blogger friendly?
James Johnson, nice and aggresive going to the hole.
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2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 6:43 PM CDT reply actions
I swear I was just about to ask you that
My bad. It just occurred to me a second ago.
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I just thought of it
because we have the same issue at work trying to watch football on Sundays. Explorer doesn’t work for some reason.
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i'll say if no one else will
the 24 second commercial girl is hot
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 2, 2009 6:48 PM CDT reply actions
Gee, Neil, who is afraid to "make" the big shot?
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JJ has slimmed down
His body looks good. Someon is going to have to mentor him.
12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.
by NBA Observer on Oct 2, 2009 6:51 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I hate seeing this guy with #7 on
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I'm looking on nba.com
http://www.nba.com/games/20091002/CHIIND/boxscore.html
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Yahoo was updating pretty fast earlier
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Somebody's gonna need to crack TJs Ford.
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by MPG on Oct 2, 2009 6:53 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I take it back.
Dude gets injured a lot.
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by MPG on Oct 2, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Not really
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define well
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
Nobody's gotten hurt.
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by MPG on Oct 2, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
there's that
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
@Indiana
Do we ever play well at Conseco?
12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.
by NBA Observer on Oct 2, 2009 6:55 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
They look best when using the pick and roll
with Noah and Rose
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Noah with 8 boards in 9 min so far
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Tyrus with the jam!!!
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
nice dunk TT
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
We got to 30!
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Bulls should be dominating this game. Winning the turnover battle, the offensive rebound battle,
and getting to the line more, they are just shooting TERRIBLY. eFG% of 25%.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 6:59 PM CDT reply actions
At least that gives them an excuse for the 3 assists
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Plus Danny Granger
is killing them.
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we need to keep our eye on 3 pt shooting all season
only 3 attempts – 1 by Rose, Byars, and Hunter. Of course Kirk isn’t there, but still. Pacers are 2 for 9.
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 2, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Gotta say...
it’s just preseason, but Luol looks terrible.
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Come on Tyrus
lay off the step back jumpers!
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Tyrus's stepback jumper... yikes.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 7:02 PM CDT reply actions
I know.
Seriously – this guy with the jump shots. He can shoot. But after he establishes his interior game. It’s not as if these are wideopen!
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by MPG on Oct 2, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not sure if this was sarcasm, but I'd always rather have Tyrus take an open jumper by
setting his feet and shooting. He’s not good enough as a shooter to be shooting stepback jumpers.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Not sarcasm at all.
He’s a good jump shooter when he’s open and set. But as far these stepbacks, and the occasionaly fadeaway…yikes.
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by MPG on Oct 2, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
we may have to tally vdn's facepalm stats
That jumper was a facepalm+headshake for vdn.
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by NBA Observer on Oct 2, 2009 7:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I almost feel obligated to support his jumpers
Just because I hate to agree with Neil on anything.
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Goddamn, Tyrus is taking the same stupid jumpshots
Maybe instead of hitting the weights, he should have had a brain transplant this summer.
he shoots like he thinks he's a small whiteboy
in a tyrus thomas body
People call BG one dimensional
Salmons with only one reb, no steals, no assists, no blocks in just under 15 min.
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here's what I'm using but you need to use Firefox not Explorer
http://isportslink.blogspot.com/2009/10/chicago-vs-indiana.html
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
the scab refs seem ok
Any issues? I can’t hear the audio.
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by NBA Observer on Oct 2, 2009 7:06 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Not so far
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
If anything it's working out well for the Bulls so far.
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LOL
Harter
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
I hope Deng continues to get to the line this year
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Kirk looks totally bored.
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sooo....
tyrus is just getting all those jumpers out of his system before the season starts, right? right?!?!?
Why are Brad and Kirk not playing tonight?
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Groin and hammy, respectively
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It's amazing they're anywhere close to in this
(I know, preseason and all, but I always want to win)
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Again, if they were shooting worth a damn, they'd be dominating.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions
True
But we’ve also played end of the bench guys and scrubs who won’t even make the team more than they have.
They’re not doing much outside of Granger.
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91.5 points per 100 possessions is pretty good. Just gotta get the offense working (aka make some freakin shots).
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2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, 19 of those points are from the FT line
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This is not the way I want to see Tyrus playing again
shooting jumpers all the time and having only 2 boards!!
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Yeah
he didn’t do much but miss shots and foul.
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
if he's gonna foul
at least let it be an entertaining martial arts type foul
Right lol
Like a roundhouse kick or a chop to the neck!
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
After watching that half, I'm pretty glad the regular season is a ways away
Vinny should have a couple of clipboards worth of stuff to work on when they get back to the Berto.
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Yeah the play in London tuesday
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Leaving Sunday, I believe
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Damn..
my link died.
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here
http://www.atdhe.net/9516/watch-chicago-vs-indiana
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't have an HD feed, unfortunately.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
The link above works
make sure you are using Firefox not Explorer.
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Tyrus to the rim
someone talked to him at the half!
Could this be?
Did Vinny do something good at halftime? ;)
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I'm gonna say yes.
You know how ridiculously optimistic I am.
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by MPG on Oct 2, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
who's limping?
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
it was Tyrus
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
Salmons looks great, still.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 7:38 PM CDT reply actions
Pacers look really sloppy this half
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Jerome James and Aaron Gray!!!
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Oct 2, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah it's good to see him not settling
for those 20 foot jumpers
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Apparently Noah :(
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Oct 2, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I would have been shocked to see that heave go in.
Looked like Manute Bol out there.
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Oct 2, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Noah with the 14 footer! WTF!
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 7:41 PM CDT reply actions
LOL Noah with the 16 footer!
I want him to take it, though. Needs to get accustomed to it.
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Taj looks decent
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purty. Gibson w/the J
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Man, Luol made me eat crow.
15 pts on 9 shots is pretty nice…has played well.
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Deng may end up with more free throw attempts
than field goal attempts.
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Oct 2, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd rather have Richard than Gray
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
how come?
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by MPG on Oct 2, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Good enough for me :)
though seeing Aaron dunk…also crazy.
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by MPG on Oct 2, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Because he's at least active
Gray is a big stiff
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
tyrus better not be injured...
who’s gonna shoot the terrible J’s for us??…oh wait, apparently Noah
he has a concussion
won’t be back tonight.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
u sure??
thats just the way he always looks. haha
yep
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
that was a joke
dude just looks extremely uneducated
Maybe he just went to update his Twitter page
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
There is a NBA rule against that this year.
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Oct 2, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I know I was just kidding
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
He played af Florida with Noah
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Some bum named Derrick Byers
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
My feed just froze
wtf??
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Same here.
Back now.
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Oct 2, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Holy crap
Taj with another jumper!
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Lindsey Hunter looks 20 lbs heavier
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
by bigballa10 on Oct 2, 2009 7:51 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
And 20 years older.
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Oct 2, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
At this moment
everyone on the Bulls has at worst a 0 for +/-, and we’re finally back to a 1:1 A/TO ratio.
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Dammit everybody can shoot better than Tyrus
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
T2 can shoot like that too
when he’s open.
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by MPG on Oct 2, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Bulls will jack up his stats to prepare for a mid-season trade
They even let him shoot the technical ;)
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
Like block by jj
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Yeah they look pretty bad
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
But at the half, we were losing to them
And beating the sucky teams is far preferable to not beating them.
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2 assists for Rose is 25 minutes. hm.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 7:53 PM CDT reply actions
Damn straight.
It’s almost as if the game didn’t matter. :)
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by MPG on Oct 2, 2009 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Only 9 TO's
excellent
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Hope Head gets kept by the Pacers.
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
Me too
I’ve liked him since he was on that show with Eddy Curry and Sean Dockery in HS.
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Taj has a pretty nice looking jumper.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 7:59 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah and he shoots it with confidence too
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Yep. That was his billing coming out.
Reminds me a little bit of a less athletic, but hustling Channing Frye.
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by MPG on Oct 2, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Hibbert stinks.
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
Word.
And I think he’s better than Thabeet. :)
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by MPG on Oct 2, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree he is
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
i remember last season
when tyrus blocked him like 5 times in one game lol.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
JJ
4 pts, 4 fouls, 0 reb, 0 assists, 0 stls, 1 blk, 1 TO
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
i cant believe king/neil even thought of comparing taj's athleticism to tyrus'.
tyrus would have destroyed mcroberts on the layup he just had.
I know. Hilarious.
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by MPG on Oct 2, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah Tyrus would've killed that
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Taj is like a less athletic, more focused Tyrus with a better jumper. Weird.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 8:03 PM CDT reply actions
So our starters can beat up their starters, and our scrubs can beat up their scrubs
But looks like our scrubs can’t beat up their starters.
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You say that like winning tonight is the point
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I wouldn't have put the starters back in.
It’s the preseason, and the first preseason game. I’m happy with what they did to start the third, and they’ve all played roughly 20 minutes or more. I think that does plenty for their confidence.
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He probably had a plan to play them a certain amount of time
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Not necessarily the starters, but at least some of them
Without them the game is not that interesting
Well, that's true
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Yeah Hunter is still in Vinny
please take him out
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
BG flashback lol
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
geez.
starters back?
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Damn Lindsey
has he been hanging out with Jerome James this summer. He’s really big!
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Dunleavy! Jesus!
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I'm going to just put this out there
I like Taj. I hope he totally proves me wrong and becomes a decent player.
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Did you split up Drew Gooden into Salmons and Gibson?
Salmons has the beard, Gibson the foul-line jumper and the rest of the looks.
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
Damn McRoberts
I didn’t know he had it in him
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
haha
McRoberts.
What was Noah doing on the pick and roll?
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So did I hear right....
T2 with a concussion?
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So Taj is definitely growing on me.
I can now fully support him sitting on the Bulls bench. And if he does this a few more games against better competition, I might even start wanting to see him get minutes when it counts.
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I co sign that
He plays smarter than TT already.
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Cause he's older. :)
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by MPG on Oct 2, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
I was thinking that as I typed it.
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Granger is in mid season form
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Lol
guess who just started trying?
Rose is gonna beast this year.
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This has been kind of a weird game for him.
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I'm not gonna miss BG too much
Sorry guys
by Option27 on Oct 2, 2009 8:15 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Taj is pretty good on the offensive glass
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
I was just thinking how crazy it is that Taj is winning us over while JJ sits on the bench
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Byar looks decent too
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Byars I mean
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
I'm trying not to get attached to him
I hate goodbyes.
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LOL
I know. There is not way any of these unsigned guys make it. We’re too close to the tax.
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Hah
Taj is now the Bulls top performer on yahoo, and they don’t even have a photo of him.
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I think Taj has shown
that there is no reason why Tyrus is not on the boards. He is playing the same position in the same offense and is very active on the glass.
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
I know
if he turns out to be pretty good I will happily eat crow.
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
You should have been against Johnson and Mullens, not Gibson. He always looked like a sleeper.
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
We had a Blair thing going here, same as you guys
It didn’t really matter who Gibson was.
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Well, I really liked him for a second round pick. That seemed fair. Where you picked in the first would have been high.
Our Dante Cunningham pick looks surprisingly good, too. Might be something in a while.
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
Not necessarily on the second first round pick.
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100 Points!
I was actually worried for a while that we wouldn’t even break 30 in the first half.
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That's Hunter's first 3 in 5 years!!
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
fantastic d by JJ
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Pre season or not
He looks very comfortable and he’s playing with the starters. He’s definitely going to push Tyrus.
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
I could swear that earlier he was talking about Stinson getting in the game
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found money!
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I kind of like that
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LOL Gibson
17/7/3/1 in 25 minutes.
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I was just gonna post his numbers. Very impressive thus far. It's only one game, but he looks very good.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
kyp, luther head is not a 3pt shooter.
stacy brings the same zeal and integrity to his analysis that he did to playing in his career.
OK, honestly,
Who here had Taj down as leading scorer for the game?
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And only 1 rebound from a double-double!
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The Bulls dominated the glass, and Taj was a huge reason why. He and Joakim combined for 19 boards.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
What the hell?
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Taj!
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions
Gibson doesn't stop!
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Byars looks more comfortable than JJ even
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Byars looked really good..
Nice shot, 6’7", fundamentally sound… I’d rather pay him 1M than pay Aaron Gray. Sigh.
All in all, that was fun.
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Can't wait to see what negative twist Matt comes up with. ;)
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Of course that it's just a pre season game
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
T2 injured! J2 bad!
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by MPG on Oct 2, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay, honestly, who here wouldn't rather have Derrick Byars over Aaron Gray?
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 8:33 PM CDT reply actions
i was thinking the same thing
does signing him to the rookie minimum put the bulls in the luxury tax? We need a young, athletic 2 in case someone goes down.
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 2, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
It's also pretty funny that he decided to take number 7. It'd be HIGHLY entertaining to watch him
take #7 and develop into everything the Bulls wanted BG to be (M2GWCDaS). I’m not saying it would happen — it wouldn’t, in all likelihood — but it would be hilarious.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Aaron Gray?
I was thinking him over Pargo (since they both play the same position), we should trade Pargo for a 2nd round pick and sign DB7
him over Hunter?
byars played in europe
and was so bad, that I would look somewhere else.
how many times has dude tried out for Bulls squad?
"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"
No Pargo, no Kirk, and Salmons did most of his work from the elbows in.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Why low % 3pt when you can shoot a jump shot?
Bulls had better shoot fewer three’s since they are taller and have the ability to play closer to the basket.
Byars launched 5 and made 2.
1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box
by fundamentallysound on Oct 2, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Now seriously, Boozer, Okur and Millsap will be a good test to Taj
If he does well, I’m all for playing him this season a couple of minutes. He really impressed me tonight. But Hibbert and McRobert are no stars
huh that didnt make sense
wouldnt money be the main motivating factor for trading either of those two for reinsdorf and crew? plus why even mention it at such a random time?
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
it was just a joke. I just think they need to cut bait with the Skiles/Pax era.
I think Deng is a decent player but I don’t think he fits the team anymore. Same with Hinrich.
But my point was they can’t really be traded because they make ass loads of money.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
i know i may be in the minority
but i don’t think either one’s contract is THAT bad.
i think deng has this year to redeem himself, otherwise, yeah his contract is a load of garbage.
and hinrich makes too much to be the 3rd guard, but he’d start on a lot of teams and his contact is probably worth it then.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
yeah but he plays with the Bulls and doesn't start so it's not worth it.
Deng can’t stay healthy and his game hasn’t really expanded. I just don’t want those players around Rose. I’d rather have cheaper younger more athletic players with Rose.
Part of me thinks that Deng thinks that this is his team. It’s not.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
i was talking about trade value though.
no, hinrich isn’t worth it to our team, but there’s a reason portland was pursuing him heavily. he was worth his contract to them.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
The U.S dollars was worth more at one time.. it has no signs of every returning to that value
"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"
I totally disagree about having them around Derrick
I think veteran players (those who actually play meaningful minutes) help, and I think it helps to have some guys with different strengths on the team.
Are there guys somewhere in the universe who are a better theoretical fit next to Derrick? Sure – but I’m far from sold that the main criteria for that are cheaper, younger, and more athletic. Meanwhile, we’ve got guys who are reasonably athletic and quick – not that it’s their primary strength, but then that’s pretty much what Tyrus has going for him and how’s that working out? And they’re also good locker room guys by all reports I’ve seen and have some experience in the league. There’s a difference between being open to making good trades and dumping good players just because they aren’t the ideal fit.
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my fault
i thought the money sign was reffering to how the bulls organization thinks about money first, and thats why i thought the joke (i knew it was a joke) didnt make sense cuz if anything they should trade those two more for the sake of saving money…..
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
I was surprised that the scab refs seemed pretty decent
It’s hard to judge from a low-intensity preseason game, but I wouldn’t have noticed any difference if I hadn’t known the refs were different. I might have been wrong about the replacements being a disaster. The regular refs might want to consider swallowing their pride and giving in, because they certainly aren’t going to have any sympathy from the fans.
I am actually looking forward to the scab refs in the regular season
No Dick Bavetta is a benefit in my book.
12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.
by NBA Observer on Oct 3, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
second that..along with no joey crawford
"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"
Is anyone elses
page not showing the fanposts?
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
it did that to me randomly twice
its not that it didnt show it…the template changed
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
It's fine now.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
I really liked Byars and Richards they look like they can be productive bench players.
It’s only one game but Richards got ripped. Byars can shoot from any spot on the floor but I guess both will be cut right? I’d rather have Richard over Aaron Gray and I would take Byars over Hinrich.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
Byars over Hinrich?
Let’s not get too carried away.
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Really?
I’d take a younger longer SG guard over and over paid over rated back up pg/sg with an inconsistent shot. I’m just cynical though.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
No, you're just making judgement off of a preseason game against the Indiana Pacers.
Back off the ledge.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 3, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
ledge?
I love this team but it’s time to move on with some of these players who haven’t really done much other than eat money.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
ledge? preseason game? Byars potential? has nothing to do with it!
BigBalla10 said it.. if the org moves BG for Kirk, even if Byars had hidden Jordan potential it would not matter!
"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"
Hinrich doesn't just eat money
Really now …
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
Really, the Krik bashing is hystrical
He’s one of the better guards in the NBA at his present salary.
For Chicago, he’s expensive given the commitment to Rose but the vet isn’t complaining about backing up Rose.
When Krik’s traded, it will happen, it will be for good players or draft picks,
I wouldn't say cynical as much as basing your opinion on a checklist of characteristics rather than on-court results
I’ll give you younger, longer, and cheaper. But what makes you think he can go from D-Leaguer to 3rd guard on a team that plans to make a reasonable challenge in the playoffs?
D-League stats from last season for Byars: .475 fg%, .383 3%, .753 ft%, 16.8 ppg/36, 2.63ast/36, 4.57reb/36 – that’s D-League again, and as one of the top options on the team. Now I’m not saying he’s got no shot in the NBA, and if you wanted to argue him over Lindsey to hold down the bench I probably wouldn’t even blink. Why you think he brings more to the team than Kirk, I don’t get. I think you’re too focused on the contract issue.
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I can just tell.
I have watched Hinrich for six years now this will be his seventh and I’m just so sick of his dopey ass in a Bulls jersey. I don’t understand this cities infatuation with mopey short white QB’s and PG’s. (Rex)
Just because you don’t play well in the D-League doesn’t mean you can’t play in the NBA. If you’re playing with bad players bad things happen. Maybe if he’s paired with real basketball players he can open looks. He’s good enough to get a call up. But lets just march out the same over paid average players (Hinrich and Deng) who don’t even fit the team anymore. Lets be honest if it wasn’t for their contract I have a feeling these guys would have been dealt by now.
Sometimes those fringe players thrive in a good system around good players where they don’t have to be the man.
I think they Bulls should do everything in their powers to try and trade Hinrich and Deng.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
If it wasn't for their contracts, there'd be little point in wanting to trade them
Lu and Kirk are both legitimate NBA players – complementary players, but among the top 30 at their positions. If you just consider play and not contract, Kirk’s a great guy to have as a third guard; he plays both spots very well for a backup and is a legitimate starter at PG. If he can stay healthy, Lu’s a borderline all-star talent. Put either of them on a lower contract and they’re a steal.
I’m not saying untradeable by any means – but IMO only in a good deal. The team does need to stick guys out on the floor who can play. I’m seriously baffled that you’d rather gamble PT on a fringe NBA player in the hopes that he does better against NBA opponents than he did in the D-League. I wouldn’t consider a salary dump unless the Bulls are totally out of it mid-season with no hope of making a playoff push to help entice a free agent.
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comparing either Hinrich or Deng to Grossman is ridiculous
those guys could start just about anywhere in the NBA. Grossman’s career is over.
I guess I can understand someone wanting Hinrich and Deng gone, but thinking you’re going to replace their production with a D-Leaguer is absurd. I’d rather the Bulls not be unwatchable like they were the first half of last season.
by darksmokepuncher on Oct 3, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
and honestly, what "fit" does this team have?
with VDN running this team, our best bet is to just put the best players on the floor, and hope they can make something happen.
The last time we played without Hinrich and Deng it was the first half of last season. Imagine going through that again, only without Ben Gordon.
by darksmokepuncher on Oct 3, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
what production?
Deng is always hurt and Hinrich is more inconsistent than a decent hair cut at Super cuts.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
hmmm
my thoughts are biased….probably….
Hinrich was pretty consistant in what he brought to the table UNTIL 2007, and 2008 he was injured… so for 4 of his seasons he was pretty consistantly bringing this team 16 and 6…I think you are hating just way too much at this point…
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
What production?
Seriously? Last year, in spite of all those games missed to injuries, Kirk and Lu contributed a combined total of 1193 points, 418 rebounds, 291 assists, 126 steals, and 44 blocks, all while shooting a combined 44.4% overall, 40.7% from 3, and 79.4% from the line.
Replacing them with junk wouldn’t hurt at all – except that we saw how much it did when they were both out early in the season….
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thats fine, but I just think the team needs to still build around Rose.
these guys are part of the old regime they may have had some decent stats but then all the better to trade them. Honestly I just don’t think Deng and Hinrich fit the Bulls style anymore. I mean they are very replaceable in my eyes. Im sorry I just think you need to move on from these type of guys. I would argue that Deng and Hinrich are in some ways mentally weak. That when the pressures on in the highest levels they shrieval up. They have also peaked in their potential and won’t be getting much better. So why not trade them while you can get something for them?
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
I don't think any of us said not to trade them under the right circumstances.
But you started the whole thing by saying you’d rather have Byars over Kirk. And everyone who responded to you pointed out that this is ridiculous – no way does Byars even come close to doing what Kirk does for the team.
Now you’re walking down the road of Kirk and Lu contributing nothing (or at least very little) to team success, which is patently false. Team needs to build around Derrick? Great, but how about you don’t propose doing that by replacing legitimate NBA players with training camp scrubs who will be luck to hold down the bench for someone this season.
There are many quite legitimate arguments for trying to trade Kirk and Lu. I don’t agree with all of them, but there are many I do agree with. But they are both good players who have contributed a lot to this team, and who are being counted on to contribute a lot this coming season. IMO, you being tired of them in Bulls unis is a really crappy argument for trading them, and acting like they don’t contribute anything or harping on their flaws as players don’t change the fact that we need someone on the court producing this season. I personally think they’re going to have good years, and have several remaining productive years in their careers. You obviously don’t. I would rather watch Kirk and Lu this season and see the team have some success than start dumping guys – just to be sure we get something for them – and always be on that building for later, perpetually chasing the next unknown superstar treadmill.
In honor of the dearly departed, I declare July PB&J month - everyone raise a sandwich to the memory of Ben!
by wjb1492 on Oct 4, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah
There’s a reason he’s a fringe NBA player. I’d love to give a guy like that a shot too but over Hunter, Gray, Pargo, those kinds of guys. Give Kirk a little more credit than that.
"I'm in the Hall already, on the wall already, I'm a work of art I'm a Warhol already"-Jay Z
Byars lacks the annoying facial expressions.
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Oct 3, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't care I just don't wanna watch Hinrich or Deng on the Bulls.
They are in my Rex Grossman club.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
by SoulEater7 on Oct 3, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Didn't see the game, how was Richard's defense?
I love his measureables: 6’8.75" in shoes, 7’4.5" wingspan, 9’2.5" standing reach. (That’s the same standing reach as Chris Kaman, LaMarcus Aldridge, and Tyson Chandler.) Richard fills a need if he can guard thick PFs.
Deng went to the line 9 times?
Even for the presesaon, that’s pretty good.
Basketball is back…..it’s about freaking time.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
I was going into game thread withdrawal.
Basketball is back…..it’s about freaking time.
"Whoever was responsible for pulling that offer [to Ben Gordon] off the table...bring him before me and I'll punch him right in the face " - Frederick Pfeiffer
by Granny Waiters on Oct 3, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
John Salmons SG impressions
6-8 from the field, no fouls, no assist, 2 boards, 1 block, 1 TO and 3-4 from the line.
The defense wasn’t really strong here. Brandon Rush isn’t really going to stop him.
I missed the second half, but in the first it looked like he was getting good looks from the shots he created for himself.
12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

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