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Thomas and Miller back at practice, Rose...still not


You can read varying quotes on the same story at the following beat writers blogs:

Mike McGraw (1:49 PM) <----Winner!

John Jackson (1:50 PM)

KC Johnson (2:07 PM) <----Most quotes award!

While not practicing, at least Rose is running and on the bike, the last we heard he could not run on his sore ankle/achillies.

Some bonus links for you: Bulls season previews at Yahoo!s Ball Don't Lie, and Sporting News' The Baseline.

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Rose really does have the attitude of Larry Hughes

dearlarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanydumbshots was right.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Oct 15, 2009 7:12 PM CDT reply actions  

lolwut

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Oct 15, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

was that by

jojoenglish? i think that was his sn when he was here…

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Oct 16, 2009 3:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I doubt JoeJoe is a Vinny fan,

but I’m sure he’s happy Thabo was traded. He can safely attend the next Bulls mall tour.

by Scotter on Oct 16, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of jojo

I cracked up when I saw the video of Benny the Bull with silly string at the Bulls’ Paint the Town thing.

In honor of the dearly departed, I declare July PB&J month - everyone raise a sandwich to the memory of Ben!

by wjb1492 on Oct 16, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL I'm sorry this is just... what else can you say?

I wanna say this is from 1996, kinda grunge look and the one dude has two earrings.. anyone from blogabull? Everyone was heavy into Pearl Jam and Dave Matthews was getting very popular. I think I see KC Johnson in the back before he worked for the Bulls.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 15, 2009 9:55 PM CDT reply actions  

No, you were right the first time.

"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro

by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 16, 2009 6:35 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

is that Frank Sobotka

from season 2 of the Wire on the far right? i think that actor is from Chicago.

by M 80 on Oct 16, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

you know they say

that excessive use of quotes is a sign of bad journalism. maybe that’s what yfbb was getting at.

as a fellow Evanstonian I want to support KC, but man his writing is just godawful. it’s too bad for him that all those years working with sam smith didn’t really seem to rub off.

i'm hot for teacher

by DLRoth on Oct 15, 2009 11:13 PM CDT reply actions  

He's got to be collecting stories

for his upcoming book: The KC Rules: How Tyrus Thomas is always on the block.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Oct 16, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

that's not what I meant at all

It was just a practice update from KC. The quotes were fine. I was just pointing out the time/quotes inverse relationship.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 16, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

KC's article is 8 minutes better.

See what happens when you work hard in life? I bet if Doug was there he’d have 3 times the about that KC has there. jk

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by SoulEater7 on Oct 16, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Doug would be late posting the blog

after chasing James Johnson around the parking lot.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 16, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Blame it on Beloit

They own him now.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Oct 16, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Can’t believe the Kelly Dwyer hate here. He’s the best basketball writer out there, people. You try his job, really.

by Lu Galasso on Oct 16, 2009 10:29 AM CDT reply actions  

here?

or at Yahoo!

I love me some KD.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 16, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

No one hates Dwyer here, at least not explicitly.

Most of us wish he would spend more time commenting here. And if Skeets came along, I’d be cool with that.

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 16, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yahoo commentators are pretty dumb in general, I'd imagine.

HEre? Meh, Dwyer has his biases, but he’s a good read.

I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]

by Prevenge on Oct 16, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Vinny is encouraging Tyrus to shoot ''open'' 15 footers.
“Tyrus needs to get the flow back offensively and defensively, pick his spots,” coach Vinny Del Negro said. "Be our shot blocker back there. Run the court. Make open 15-footers.

Tribune

I really like how they used Tyrus in the first preseason game in the high screen and roll with Rose. I would really love to see more innovation in this offense instead of give it to Derrick and let him do his thing. Teams are going to double Rose like Boston did in the playoffs so it’s important to get Tyrus involved in the pick and roll. I don’t mind when tyrus shoots in the flow of the offense. It’s when he forces up jumpers that gets to me. I was crying all season for Vinny to use Tyrus and Rose in those sets together. I wanna see how they use Tyrus tonight in the offense with Kirk.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 16, 2009 11:08 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd also like to see more of

this

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 16, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hollinger mentioned this in his Bulls preview

Rose, to an almost comedic degree, does not throw lobs

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 16, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

He was hitting Noah with them with more frequency at the end of the year. The Celtics

series also jumps to mind. Noah had a couple of lobs for dunks courtesy of DRose.

I think it’s an area he has vast room for improvement in, but to a large degree, I think it was because Derrick was so risk averse (he constantly mentions keeping TOVs down as a concern) and he didn’t always trust Tyrus and to a lesser extent, Joakim to go get the lobs. It looked, to my eyes, like at the end of the year he was starting to build that trust, especially with Joakim.

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Oct 16, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

He actually had way too few TOs for a rookie guard.

It’s unusual, but I’d be pleased if Derrick fouled more and turned the ball over more next year if it’s the result of more aggressiveness on both ends of the floor.

by Scotter on Oct 16, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is just a guess

but Derrick seems like the type of guy that really, really takes what the coaches tell him to heart. Perhaps, since he’s young, they kept pounding into his brain “Take care of the ball, take care of the ball.” and it stifled some of his creativity. It just seemed to me like he was an extremely tentative passer. Like he was afraid to make mistakes.

"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro

by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 16, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've said before

that I noticed many more lob passes at the end of the year. I don’t have any statistics of course, but it was noticeable increase in his lob pass frequency.

by runningman on Oct 16, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

All we did last year was run isos and high pick and rolls. We didn't have a lot of success

with the high pick and roll because Tyrus and Joakim aren’t great at setting screens (Noah is better than TT at this, but he’s still not very good) and Joakim can’t shoot and Tyrus can only shoot a little bit — not enough to make anyone scared. So teams sagged off them after the pick, which eliminated the roll part of the high PnR to a large degree. So it instead became pick and pop or a pick and Derrick blow-by to the hoop (which Derrick could do even easier without the screener’s man potentially mucking things up with a double team).

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Oct 16, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

heh....

going through tyrus thomas highlights… here

Maybe this is why Thomas didn’t pass to Rose in the playoffs. He shoot FT’s as well as Rose and rose can just easily get picked off by a Center. (Okay, I’m only partially kidding.)

(oh, and Aaron Gray is still a dickhead. That reminds me of this*, too. What, exactly, has he done again, besides being born 7’2"?)

*bleurgh! had a hard time finding the video of Gray starting down Andre Miller after Rose broke Miller’s ankles… towards the end, briefly

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Oct 16, 2009 12:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Salmons is out tonight. Greeat... blahhhhhh

So Hinrich and Pargo are starters? This seems like one to miss. Yeah I think I’ll just record this and then never watch it.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 16, 2009 2:19 PM CDT reply actions  

It could very well happen in the regular season too. Yikes!

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Oct 16, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

If that happens........... I don't even know what to say. Just bad bad bad.

Thats why I don’t understand the Lindsey Hunter signing. Why would they bring him back? I have already seen more than enough Pargo, Hunter and Hinrich I hope none are on this team next season.

Whats funny is the Bulls were so guard heavy the past couple years now they look thin as hell.

Hot steamy pile of crap behind Rose and Salmons, thats what that is. Thats why I think you keep Byars. But seriously they need to address the back up point guard position.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 16, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Way to lump together a guy who would start on several teams

and a guy who has passed mandatory retirement age. Nothing extreme there.

In honor of the dearly departed, I declare July PB&J month - everyone raise a sandwich to the memory of Ben!

by wjb1492 on Oct 16, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh Hinrich?

I agree he could start for other teams and I hope he is soon.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 16, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather see Thomas than Salmons.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 16, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I know.

Would that bad to start Byars and Hinrich. Give the kid some time.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 16, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

byars is gonna get alot of burn

preseason starters are like the mozzerella sticks at applebee’s. They are the best part of your meal but you only see them at the begining of your meal before they are gone and almost forgotten. The majority of your meal consists of average food which you try to justify as delicious, while its only decent and comes in to big a morsal, and tends to make your stomache sick after you eat it despite how good it seemed to taste…

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Oct 16, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jaina will

shit if Pargo starts tonight.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Oct 16, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA

i just read this.

i’ll take pargo starting for watching the game thomas had.

"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"

by Jaina on Oct 17, 2009 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

in the preseason, at least.

but ugh, was he awful yet again!!

"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"

by Jaina on Oct 17, 2009 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hope TT

can play like he did tonight on a consistant basis. He was awesome.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Oct 17, 2009 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

hell yeah

but yeah, i mean i can’t get too mad at pargo starting. at least he is actually on the team. they weren’t going to start byars or something, and i’d rather have pargo than hunter out there LOL!! as much vitriol as i have for him.

"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"

by Jaina on Oct 17, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes I'd take

Pargo over Hunter too. Won’t it be fun to see what this team can do when eveyone is healthy and can play?

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Oct 17, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am starting to get a bit nervous about the

lingering Rose injury.

"We're gonna hire a motherf*cking coach with NO experience? Not as an NBA head coach, not as an NBA assistant, not as an assistant’s assistant, not as a college coach, not as a high school coach, not as f*cking grade school coach, not as a coach of the Lovabulls, not as a coach of the towel boys, not even as a coach of a dynasty on Playstation. Nothing. Really? Really, Pax?" - 1958ChiTown's Initial Reaction to the Hiring of Vinny Del Negro, posted on June 7, 2008 at 2:41 PM.

by 1958ChiTown on Oct 16, 2009 3:21 PM CDT reply actions  

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