Derrick Byars, does he stay on?

by SoulEater7 on Oct 14, 2009 2:05 PM CDT Comment 39 comments

Just caught this from BC in which Doug breaks down the play of Derrick Byars and his chances to making the Roster
and which he thinks Byars is a long shot to make the team. Neil Funk even mentioned Byars as a long shot I guess due to cap flexibility? I have to say I'm not well versed in the business side of the NBA but just looking at the roster and thinking about John Salmons hamstring injury last season I would have to think he has a pretty decent shot.

Don't get me wrong he's pretty raw but he's also young and cheap and can knock down the three which on this team has kinda become a down grade since BG left. I would say Salmons is the best 3 point threat right now and Hinrich is ok. Pargo is Pargo. I think it's great for Rose to have great long range shooters around him because it opens the lanes for him to do what he does best, get to the hoop. So what do you guys think?

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He looks like he should be in the league,

unlike Aaron Gray and Lindsey Hunter. Seriously, is there a bigger joke in the league than Lindsey Hunter? You would think an older guy like him would be doing everything in his power to maximize whatever little he has left in his tank, rather than show up looking like your typical chubby YMCA baller.
At least there is some upside with Byars. He could end up performing like Von Wafer did after his call-up from the NBADL.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Oct 14, 2009 4:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

In all fairness

Lindsey knew he was going to have a job that didn’t require him to play. He’s going to move into coaching after this, so he’s not worried about that either.

by runningman on Oct 14, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, but how does that justify this franchise wasting

a million dollars+ on an over the hill sack of potatoes?

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Oct 14, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Apparently they want him to mentor Derrick

If they didn’t pay him to be a player, they would have paid him to be a coach. If Lindsey’s contract means they can’t sign someone they want, then we have a problem. My personal opinion is that they signed him as a player because they already decided they didn’t want to sign anyone else.

by runningman on Oct 14, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That in and of itself is something wrong.

An NBA franchise couldn’t find someone better than Lindsey Hunter. For real? There are probably 100 players in the NBADL with more game than Hunter. And in all reality, what is he going to teach rose? A few old man tricks? Waste of money, no way around it.
BTW, this anger isn’t aimed at you, it’s at the franchise.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Oct 14, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hunter is here

for his NBA Finals experience.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Oct 15, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

lol

"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"

by exult463 on Oct 16, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

On topic

I like Byars game. I would definitely find a way to keep him if possible. He’s a guy that wouldn’t screw your team if you were forced to play him.

by runningman on Oct 14, 2009 5:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

No,

we needed to sign Aaron Gray for the QO.
If we can get cap space he stays, if not … we’re not going to go into the luxury tax for Byars.

I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]

by Prevenge on Oct 14, 2009 5:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh, we have $1 million to spend.

Screw it, why not then?

I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]

by Prevenge on Oct 14, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know

I think he could be of value, but the better question would be if he makes it, who doesn’t?

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Oct 14, 2009 5:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

All the other minimum-wage guys on our preseason team that suck?

Well, that was an easy question to answer.

I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]

by Prevenge on Oct 14, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Send him down

to the D league until there is an injury. He’s basically just an insurance policy anyway. And playing every other day in real games will help him develop his game a bit.

by 72-10 on Oct 15, 2009 7:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

in other words

to answer your question more directly, no one we expect to make the roster get’s cut for now.

by 72-10 on Oct 15, 2009 7:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was wondering if

they could send him to the Energy.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Oct 15, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

heh

always representing eh sue? ;)

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Oct 15, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Meh.

Is there a debate over the 14th man? Really?

He could wear a suit on the bench for 75 games, but I don’t think that is worth a minimum contract. At least Gray and Lindsey provide something for the team in practice (a big body and a veteran voice/coach on the floor)

Why isn't your friendly Bulls Blogger friendly?

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 14, 2009 7:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

So you're happy with Pargo and Hinrich all season?

hmm.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 14, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pargo

Hinrich, and Salmons.

Most definitely. Byars isn’t an upgrade over those 3. He’s a fill in for when those 3 aren’t playing. I’d like to have him around for those times, but most likely he won’t be playing when at any point where a win/loss is in question.

by runningman on Oct 14, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and in that sense

they could always sign him for a 10 day contract or whatever if hinirch salmons or pargo gets injured….so its not like if you dont make a move now he will be gone forever (unless some other team signs him, which isnt likely) I like byars better than that richards guy, but it may be because richards reminds me of 07 ben wallace, except without the rep….

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Oct 14, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I dunno,

I’d probably take Smush Parker over Pargo at this point.

I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]

by Prevenge on Oct 15, 2009 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ew

i don’t think even i would do that.

"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"

by Jaina on Oct 15, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Watching Pargo makes me really miss BG7.

damn!

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 15, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

im not a big bg fan

but i concur….i had read the comments here about pargo doing his bg impersonation (or trying rather) but i always just thought it was extra negativity, then watching yesterdays game i was like “BAH!!! He really thinks he is ben gordon…wtf is wrong with him!!” I remember him with the skiles offense, and it was basically spot up shooting for him, i didnt watch him much with the hornets, but all i know is, this guy could create his own shot, but he cant hit it. His three early shots all came in from spot up shooting, or maybe there was one with him taking a screen. Thats his offense, not ben gordon esque catch and shoots, or off dribble shots…bah

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Oct 15, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he took some really bad ill-advised shots last night.

I hope that was just a preseason thing.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 15, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you must not have watched his first stint as a bull.

"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"

by Jaina on Oct 15, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Every time he gets

the ball in his hands in the back of my mind I hear this phrase, “Fire in the hole” You know the ball is going whether it’s on target or not.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Oct 15, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Now imagine Pargo and 20/10 Tyrus on the floor at the same time!

If we thought Ben Gordon was bad, wait until these two get the ball.

Tyrus averaging 20 pts means Tyrus is on crack and will have to take 40 shots per game..

by exult463 on Oct 16, 2009 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he averaged 15 and 8 last february

so it wouldnt be impossible

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart

by Jbasic89 on Oct 19, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

drinking this kool-aid

you mentioned 15/8 in one month span.. that’s not even 20/10 for one month!

The projection was 20/10 for the entire season!

Therefore the chance of Tyrus going 20/10 for the entire 2009/10 season is about .0001% ( keep drinking that kool-aid and maybe add some crack with it because maybe there’s some low faction of a percent chance it could happen?)

by exult463 on Oct 24, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Byars is an upgrade, to these eyes, over Pargo.

Actually passes the ball pretty well, shoots 3s better, and they both play pretty solid D at the 2 slot, but Byars has more versatility because of his length and size.

1. Cut a hole in a box
2. Put your Kirk in that box
3. Make some team open that box

by fundamentallysound on Oct 16, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think that's wishful thinking

Pargo is bad, but Byars isn’t a better player just less familiar.

by Scotter on Oct 18, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i think Pargo is the superior defender

and he may actually be our best defender when it comes to defending small quick point guards. He moves his feet pretty well and has long arms to bother shots. The irony is that he is known as an offensive player but is a bit of a train wreck on that end.

by Basketball Smurf on Oct 24, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs