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Bulls edge Bucks in preseason home opener: quick recap

Milwaukee Bucks center Dan Gadzuric, right, walks off the court with Brandon Jennings thinking how much of an ass Neil Funk is for ripping on him the entire twelve minutes he played, while going 4-7 from the field with 10 rebounds  (AP Photo/Charles Rex Arbogast)

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Milwaukee Bucks center Dan Gadzuric, right, walks off the court with Brandon Jennings thinking how much of an ass Neil Funk is for ripping on him the entire twelve minutes he played, while going 4-7 from the field with 10 rebounds (AP Photo/Charles Rex Arbogast)

No Rose, Thomas, or Brad Miller (flu-like symptoms, according to the TV broadcast). The Bucks were without Andrew Bogut, which helped make Joakim Noah look damned excellent tonight. Maybe with Bogut on the court Noah would've merely been 'really good', because 20 pts and 16 rebs in 34 minutes is impressive against anyone. Noah just looks bigger this season, and certainly doesn't have the look of last season's slow (and winded) starter. In a season full of reasons not to get excited, Noah having a stellar year will be reason enough to watch.

Unless the season-long campaign to push Tyrus Thomas out the door for 24-year old Taj Gibson excites you? Maybe it's just Stacy King leading the Taj fan club, but it's getting annoying already. King even uttered the dreaded line "Vinny going to have some real interesting lineups when he gets everybody back", though in his defense I think he meant that as a good thing. Can't we just be pleasantly surprised that Gibson isn't a stiff? If Taj has to play a lot, and James Johnson has to play at the 3, this team is in trouble. 

And yes, I throw in that bit about Johnson realizing Deng was awful again in tonight's game, and after a decent start to the preseason it's now two games in a row where he looked out of shape to the point of looking still hurt. Even on what could be considered a good play, one which after a nice steal where he drew the foul, it still looked like Deng settled for the foul instead of being able to dunk on the run. But while I'm not worried until the real games start, I'll be really worried if this does continue through the regular season. 

In other things to look for in meaningless scrimmage action, Hinrich was 2-4 from three, and I won't even care if he still misses layups like no other guard (of quality) in the league, as long as he hits open 3s and plays defense, which is his role when Rose comes back.

Though that defense wasn't really much to brag about when looking at how well Brandon Jennings played. Incredibly fast, and I was really impressed at how aggressive he passed on the fast break, effectively beating the Bulls back on defense with the pass instead of his own speed. Our own explosive young guard may not quite have that court vision (not that it's a big deal given his other advantages), but it'd sure be nice to see him back, and everyone in their real roles again. Like Pargo being on the bench, for one.

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by Belize on Oct 14, 2009 1:12 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i love jennings' game

i was imagining rose with all his talent making some of those passes and goddamn rose would js be sick with that vision

by sin on Oct 14, 2009 3:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he learns to play defense under Skiles,

i think he’ll be damn good. granted he could just as easily wind up in the Skiles doghouse.

by M 80 on Oct 14, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jennings has shown already that he's able to get steals

I know that doesn’t equal defense in the Skiles mold, but all the has to beat out is Luke Ridnour…

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 14, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could see him starting at some point for the Bucks.

But he looks like a poor man’s Allen Iverson. He is a tiny little fella. Might wanna put some muscle on the frame. But he is quick. Derrick will have a field day with that kid.

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by SoulEater7 on Oct 14, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, no doubt Rose is the better talent

I was just pointing out that Jennings does have something Rose is lacking, and that’s the vision (and confidence, I guess?) to make risky passes in transition.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 14, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah he might be a better passer.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 14, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

confidence

thats a good term, i think rose came in with the first pick, and thrown into alot of pressure, despite the organization claiming they wanted to start slow with rose, it was pretty clear that everyone was looking at rose to be the next great bull, the next jordan, the savior of the franchise. rose seems like a kid who wouldnt want to let people down, humble and all that jazz. Its a nice personality, but i wanna say it could also be what hinders him a bit

I think Anyplayer would react that way, i think about wade, nad he had pretty good numbers and showed ability pre shaq, but having shaq to play with him, wade got to take more chances on both defense and offense. Look at rondo, he can gamble whenenver he wants in games, especially at first with garnett and piece and allen all there to back him up. Jennings doesnt have anyone to back him up, but he also is in a franchise that hasnt won or has been respectable for a very long time, not only that he wasnt a number one pick regarded as a savior, he can play however he feels until someone tells him not to….

Give rose some time, or give him a true mentor, and id expect some (good) craziness from him…

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Oct 14, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well since day 1 Rose has talked about how important TOs are to him

So it might also be that he doesn’t attempt risky passes because he is actively trying to reduce turnovers.

by jpm356 on Oct 14, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

witht that speed jennings has

i wonder how many times he’d blow past rose

by sin on Oct 14, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if Jennings was drafted with playing against Rose in mind?

You see that kind of stuff more in football, where intra-division rivalries are a bit more important, but I can see why a team that plays Rose a few times a year would consider an aggressive, ball-hawking PG a priority to try and match the teams they face (slightly) more often.

by Sports2 on Oct 14, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

never

as in ever

The only way you can avoid making a mistake is not to make a decision . Our Owner´s philosophy-

by Belize on Oct 14, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ramon Sessions

he was better than freakin luke ridnour, i mean didnt he once get a double double against the bulls before the end of the half?

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Oct 14, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he was let go for tax reasons

so I shouldn’t complain, other teams let guys go for financial reasons too. Oh wait, their market is freaking Milwaukee.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 14, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but luke ridnour

i mean obviously bg was the best sg on this team, but there was always arguments for guys like kirk…but luke ridnour vs sessions? they played the same position, except one was really really good at it, and the other just had a better shot

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Oct 14, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't Ridnour get a ridiculous number of votes

for last year All Star team? Maybe they are delusional.

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Oct 14, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wasnt it cuz of china

all the chinese were watching yi jian lian, and along the way they saw luke..and were like look at that white boy go!!!! but yea im pretty sure it had something to do with the china bias…

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Oct 14, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

when i read your last paragraph

i almost wished rose did play…i didnt watch the game but…i think having rose play against pgs that may be better (or do something better) than him helps rose evolve his game. I think in preseason he played against jason kidd, and he went off because everyone was saying how rose could be good maybe even as good as kidd, and rose played like he wanted to be good now, or devin harris…although rose (and everyone else) was getting torched by harris i remember rose going right back at harris (too bad he got no fouls while harris got tons) and then of course the magical boston series….rose went at rondo (especially game one) showing him that whatever rondo could do, rose could do one more (litterly doing this several times, rondo gets a layup, rose a layup and a foul) eventually even playing some clutch defense in game 6 showing rondo “hey…i think i might be able to do this better than you too..”

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Oct 14, 2009 1:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

AP should hire Matt as a caption writer!

Milwaukee Bucks center Dan Gadzuric, right, walks off the court with Brandon Jennings thinking how much of an ass Neil Funk is for ripping on him the entire twelve minutes he played, while going 4-7 from the field with 10 rebounds.

"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith

by Granny Waiters on Oct 14, 2009 1:48 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We have to come up with some kind of phrase for when this happens

like the funk zone (I know that sucks), but it’s the inevitable point in every game where he just starts ripping on a player constantly like the guy just beat up one of his grandchildren. Seriously someone’s gotta pull him aside during one of these tirades and tell him to shut the fuck up.

"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro

by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 14, 2009 2:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've got it!

“Neil Funk announces a game”
You could make a children’s book!
“Old Neil looked down
at the court big and brown,
players moving so quickly
he can’t tell Rose from Gray!”

I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]

by Prevenge on Oct 14, 2009 2:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gray moving quickly???

"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith

by Granny Waiters on Oct 14, 2009 5:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gray moves fast enough

that Funk can’t tell who he is.

I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]

by Prevenge on Oct 14, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I commented on that to my step-dad, who watched the end of the game with me.

Neil Funk is just an asshole. Last time I checked, Dan Gadzuric has been in the NBA about 10 years now. I’m not saying Milwaukee’s that good, but you have to be at least decent to stick around that long.

by Cosmis on Oct 14, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nah

just have to have one silly-ass team sign you to a 6 year contract.

But before he signed that contract, he was pretty good. And…playing the Bulls frontcourt always makes him look better than he is.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 14, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm kinda surprised they don't feed him the ball more down low.

He’s not awful.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 14, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

except an not much of an actual offense for himself

if his shot gets consistent hes gunna be a beast

by sin on Oct 14, 2009 4:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This will get shut down in the regular season

when defenders start giving him Rajon Rondo like space to shoot the ball.

He may set a new record for shortest time span played to get into the Skiles doghouse.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Oct 14, 2009 7:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i know it seems like a bad tandem, but maybe not. skiles' teams have always been fast-paced.

in fact his fastest teams have usually been his best. it was pretty amazing to see jennings especially in the first half, how his speed dominated the game so that even the bulls seemed to join in.

by TheMoon on Oct 14, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was great to see

Noah get involved on offense. He even made some nice hook shots I had never even seen him attempt before.

"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver

by wrigleyrocker12 on Oct 14, 2009 7:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

IIRC, the hook shot was one of the things

Noah emphasized in his summer workouts.

"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith

by Granny Waiters on Oct 14, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jennings looked very good for someone every draft expert told me would suck.

Reminded me of the 1st few times people saw Rose and realized he’s quicker than anyone expected.

The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 14, 2009 8:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm soooo ready for the "Brandon Jennings has been playing with a chip on his shoulder..."

…stories that will inevitably be ubiquitous 5 years from now.

Blech.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Oct 14, 2009 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

you mean 5 months from now right?!

by 72-10 on Oct 14, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

35 pts from two post players.

35 points from the PF/C Gibson and Noah. Surprise. That tells me the Bucks had a weak interior.

The point about Gibson-mania is we’re seeing some activity in the post from a nobody.

I hope being excited abut a 26th pick contributing doesn’t ruin Tyrus’ chances of being resigned.

by Noe_Valley on Oct 14, 2009 10:06 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

it shouldn't ruin it

and it also shouldn’t then dampen the enthusiasm for Taj.

But it somehow does. I blame the Bulls for constantly pitting guys against eachother since it helps their contract negotiating position. If they have the foresight of doing that, or it just seems to turn out that way.

I do like Taj, though I wish he was more of a defensive rebounder, the fact that he knows where to be and talks on defense makes him already effective in ways Tyrus isn’t.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 14, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

also

Derrick Byars needs to make the team. Like yesterday.

by Cosmis on Oct 14, 2009 11:09 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Neil Funk said no.

He decides the roster. But I agree they should keep him on. It’s a long season and if Salmons has any injuries that means midget ball. Plus I think they need his shot and I would think a guy like that could thrive off Rose. Sit in the corner and stroke the 3 ball? Thats a fun job.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 14, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Noah was awesome

last night. There was a 1 on 1 interview with Joakim and Will Perdue on Sports Night last night. He talked about his rookie season and how out of shape he was. Didn’t mention being out of shape last season but said he has learned it’s not about just working out but also eating right and getting enough rest. It was a good interview. I checked CSN but they don’t have it on there yet.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Oct 14, 2009 11:12 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

MIP, anyone?

D ROSE D WADE DESTINY DYNASTY

by Juan dela Cruz on Oct 14, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really can't wait for this season.

I think it’s safe to say Noah and Rose are the future. I really wanna see Noah match up against KG thats going to be pretty entertaining. But I think Noah and Rose just wanna win and I think those are the type of guys you need to fill your roster out with. They have the mentality it’s just so fun to watch.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 14, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dunno why..

but im blatantly swagga jacking that quote

"I think it’s safe to say Noah and Rose are the future."

by Belize on Oct 14, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pargo's role

I assumed we signed Pargo to be a mini-Gordon. When we need an offensive boost, play him at SG and hope he gets hot.

But he’s played PG this preseason. And 82games says he played more PG than SG in New Orleans (about a 55/45 split, and he sucked equally offensively at both positions).

APM has him at -2.85 offensively, just brutal for a PG/SG. Surprisingly though, he’s at +2.70 defensively, rating among the league’s best perimeter defenders. I’ve noticed he puts in a lot of effort defensively, but because of his reputation (why?) as an offensive specialist, I disregarded his defense as neutral. It could be a noise issue, but it’s a safe bet that he’s significantly better defensively than Rose.

Maybe Pargo shouldn’t be a mini-Gordon, but a mini-Hinrich. He’ll probably win a game or two with a crazy 15pt quarter to keep his reputation, but he might be better used in a Pargo/Hinrich/Deng/Tyrus/Noah lineup that locks down defensively.

by YaoPau on Oct 14, 2009 11:40 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

so

pargo @ 3? j/k

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by Belize on Oct 14, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yesterday wwas the first preseason game

I watched, and I was presently surprised with his activity and aggressiveness on defense for a guy that I assumed was a black hole on D. He was getting in shooter’s faces, and fighting through screens. If that’s how he usually plays, i’m not surprised that he rates as above average on D. I specifically recall trying to remember his age and wondering how he managed to keep his lateral quickness on D for a guy I probably think is older than he is.

My problem was more with him playing pg. He was okay with passing, but he only created good shots for people on 1 or two occasions. Most of the time he would give up the ball, and then go spot up on the 3 point line waiting for the ball. The offense ground to a halt versus when Hinrich was in there. When Pargo was pg, Richard usually ended up getting stuck with the ball with the shot clock winding down, and Pargo didn’t move from his spot and go get the ball. He doesn’t seem to realize it’s his job to keep the ball moving, even after he made his initial pass.

It think his failings as a PG are more with his mentality than with his ability.

by runningman on Oct 14, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh hell yes! Bulls play tonight?

Anyone know if Rose and Tyrus are still out? I’d assume so.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 14, 2009 11:48 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I heard on tv

last night that Vinny hopes they will be back for Friday nights game.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Oct 14, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice!

Lets get the band back together. Damn this game tonight is on Comcast sports plus? It says HD but that can’t be HD. That picture is just bad.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 14, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the channel is in HD

though maybe comcast cheaps out for a road game and doesn’t bring the cameras.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 14, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm recording the game tonight so I'll have to pay better attention.. I just recall

the past few times I have watched and I think it’s CLTV for everyone here but the quality just doesn’t seem up to snuff. I guess it’s the Hawks on Comcast so I understand and I do think Comcast’s HD channel does look better then years past. Maybe it’s the CLTV thing I don’t know.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 14, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

CLTV is the regular definition channel

there’s a CSN+ HD channel* that will show the HD feed (if there is one).

*On Comcast Cable, anyway.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 14, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks to be in HD

on DirecTV channel 666.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Oct 14, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i was really impressed with jenning's passing

like mentioned above it was simply amazing that his PASSES were beating the defense.
some passes he was making were from like halfcourt to clear right under the basket.
just amazing

by sin on Oct 14, 2009 11:58 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I remember watching him in the McDonalds all-american game

He was freakin’ awesome. He put on quite a show with his speed and passing. Plus, his hair was cut in this late 80’s box-fade with a part. He definitely stood out.

by Rosenscrubs on Oct 14, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jennings is a beast

I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]

by Prevenge on Oct 14, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Question about Noah's preseason mins

Noah played 34 last night and I know they cooled his mins in the 2nd half but is there a reason for this?

1- Is it just cause Brad is old and even when he dresses they only want him going 10min at most in preseason?
2- Is this the plan the training staff made for Noah because of last season’s 1st half conditioning problems?
3- Is there anyway this is a bad thing cause Noah is gonna have to play a lot of mins this year with Brad resting til the 2nd half of season… and Aaron out til Christmas?( are they planning to keep Richard on 12 man roster til Aaron is back?)

I havent read anyhting on this is people have heard anything I’d appreciate the info.

by Jscho316 on Oct 14, 2009 12:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Noah had a knee to knee collision on a play,

and the training staff likely wanted him out of the game until they were sure it was nothing serious.

"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith

by Granny Waiters on Oct 14, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the reports today said he cramped up

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 14, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brad was sent home

Tyrus was already out, Gray’s already out.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 14, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh...... Aaron Gray is on this team?

I keep forgetting that.

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by SoulEater7 on Oct 14, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

random thought

Deng + Gray for Stephen Jackson. Make it happen

The only way you can avoid making a mistake is not to make a decision . Our Owner´s philosophy-

by Belize on Oct 14, 2009 12:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

um, nah.

but one side benefit: at least the Bulls would stop preaching their friendliness in their veiled Gordon-bashing this preseason.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 14, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jennings is going to be the best PG from this year’s draft, followed by Flynn. He’s gonna be good, definitely better than Rubio.

by C Smoove on Oct 14, 2009 5:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

"Can't we just be pleasantly surprised that Gibson isn't a stiff?

Mmmm! or TT has been really bad except for a number of hopeful games.

If a real #2 pick was performing in Tyrus’s slot we’d be west coast “LA” type temperment glad to just see a low pick like Gibson playing slighty above average for pre-season, but would be strongly desiring our (Bosh,Garnett,Jamison,Dirk,Alridge) type real power forward to return to the floor.

We’re excited together with Stacey King about Vinny deciding between which of the average players to play?

Stacey King with his 6 inch vertical? the same guy who arrived in Chicago during Jordan era and proclaimed “Chicago was going to be dominated by Air Jordan and Sky King” trying to make a name for himself without an all-star players game, let alone a consistent NBA starter?

Well to his credit Stacey King at least had the moxie to put it out there (he had big guns backing him up in Pippen and Jordan!) This present team crew of young high paid guys are afraid of even their own shadows and act and play like they can’t back up anything…

"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"

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