Bulls edge Bucks in preseason home opener: quick recap
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 14, 2009 12:22 AM CDT
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PrintNo Rose, Thomas, or Brad Miller (flu-like symptoms, according to the TV broadcast). The Bucks were without Andrew Bogut, which helped make Joakim Noah look damned excellent tonight. Maybe with Bogut on the court Noah would've merely been 'really good', because 20 pts and 16 rebs in 34 minutes is impressive against anyone. Noah just looks bigger this season, and certainly doesn't have the look of last season's slow (and winded) starter. In a season full of reasons not to get excited, Noah having a stellar year will be reason enough to watch.
Unless the season-long campaign to push Tyrus Thomas out the door for 24-year old Taj Gibson excites you? Maybe it's just Stacy King leading the Taj fan club, but it's getting annoying already. King even uttered the dreaded line "Vinny going to have some real interesting lineups when he gets everybody back", though in his defense I think he meant that as a good thing. Can't we just be pleasantly surprised that Gibson isn't a stiff? If Taj has to play a lot, and James Johnson has to play at the 3, this team is in trouble.
And yes, I throw in that bit about Johnson realizing Deng was awful again in tonight's game, and after a decent start to the preseason it's now two games in a row where he looked out of shape to the point of looking still hurt. Even on what could be considered a good play, one which after a nice steal where he drew the foul, it still looked like Deng settled for the foul instead of being able to dunk on the run. But while I'm not worried until the real games start, I'll be really worried if this does continue through the regular season.
In other things to look for in meaningless scrimmage action, Hinrich was 2-4 from three, and I won't even care if he still misses layups like no other guard (of quality) in the league, as long as he hits open 3s and plays defense, which is his role when Rose comes back.
Though that defense wasn't really much to brag about when looking at how well Brandon Jennings played. Incredibly fast, and I was really impressed at how aggressive he passed on the fast break, effectively beating the Bulls back on defense with the pass instead of his own speed. Our own explosive young guard may not quite have that court vision (not that it's a big deal given his other advantages), but it'd sure be nice to see him back, and everyone in their real roles again. Like Pargo being on the bench, for one.
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fk brandon jennings
The only way you can avoid making a mistake is not to make a decision . Our Owner´s philosophy-
when i read your last paragraph
i almost wished rose did play…i didnt watch the game but…i think having rose play against pgs that may be better (or do something better) than him helps rose evolve his game. I think in preseason he played against jason kidd, and he went off because everyone was saying how rose could be good maybe even as good as kidd, and rose played like he wanted to be good now, or devin harris…although rose (and everyone else) was getting torched by harris i remember rose going right back at harris (too bad he got no fouls while harris got tons) and then of course the magical boston series….rose went at rondo (especially game one) showing him that whatever rondo could do, rose could do one more (litterly doing this several times, rondo gets a layup, rose a layup and a foul) eventually even playing some clutch defense in game 6 showing rondo “hey…i think i might be able to do this better than you too..”
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
AP should hire Matt as a caption writer!
Milwaukee Bucks center Dan Gadzuric, right, walks off the court with Brandon Jennings thinking how much of an ass Neil Funk is for ripping on him the entire twelve minutes he played, while going 4-7 from the field with 10 rebounds.
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
We have to come up with some kind of phrase for when this happens
like the funk zone (I know that sucks), but it’s the inevitable point in every game where he just starts ripping on a player constantly like the guy just beat up one of his grandchildren. Seriously someone’s gotta pull him aside during one of these tirades and tell him to shut the fuck up.
"That's a spicy meatball-a!" - Vinny Del Negro
by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 14, 2009 2:15 AM CDT up reply actions
I've got it!
“Neil Funk announces a game”
You could make a children’s book!
“Old Neil looked down
at the court big and brown,
players moving so quickly
he can’t tell Rose from Gray!”
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
Gray moving quickly???
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 14, 2009 5:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Gray moves fast enough
that Funk can’t tell who he is.
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
I commented on that to my step-dad, who watched the end of the game with me.
Neil Funk is just an asshole. Last time I checked, Dan Gadzuric has been in the NBA about 10 years now. I’m not saying Milwaukee’s that good, but you have to be at least decent to stick around that long.
nah
just have to have one silly-ass team sign you to a 6 year contract.
But before he signed that contract, he was pretty good. And…playing the Bulls frontcourt always makes him look better than he is.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 14, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm kinda surprised they don't feed him the ball more down low.
He’s not awful.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
except an not much of an actual offense for himself
if his shot gets consistent hes gunna be a beast
This will get shut down in the regular season
when defenders start giving him Rajon Rondo like space to shoot the ball.
He may set a new record for shortest time span played to get into the Skiles doghouse.
12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.
by NBA Observer on Oct 14, 2009 7:27 AM CDT up reply actions
i know it seems like a bad tandem, but maybe not. skiles' teams have always been fast-paced.
in fact his fastest teams have usually been his best. it was pretty amazing to see jennings especially in the first half, how his speed dominated the game so that even the bulls seemed to join in.
It was great to see
Noah get involved on offense. He even made some nice hook shots I had never even seen him attempt before.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Oct 14, 2009 7:23 AM CDT reply actions
IIRC, the hook shot was one of the things
Noah emphasized in his summer workouts.
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 14, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Jennings looked very good for someone every draft expert told me would suck.
Reminded me of the 1st few times people saw Rose and realized he’s quicker than anyone expected.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
I'm soooo ready for the "Brandon Jennings has been playing with a chip on his shoulder..."
…stories that will inevitably be ubiquitous 5 years from now.
Blech.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
35 pts from two post players.
35 points from the PF/C Gibson and Noah. Surprise. That tells me the Bucks had a weak interior.
The point about Gibson-mania is we’re seeing some activity in the post from a nobody.
I hope being excited abut a 26th pick contributing doesn’t ruin Tyrus’ chances of being resigned.
it shouldn't ruin it
and it also shouldn’t then dampen the enthusiasm for Taj.
But it somehow does. I blame the Bulls for constantly pitting guys against eachother since it helps their contract negotiating position. If they have the foresight of doing that, or it just seems to turn out that way.
I do like Taj, though I wish he was more of a defensive rebounder, the fact that he knows where to be and talks on defense makes him already effective in ways Tyrus isn’t.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 14, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
blair is gonna be a beast
The only way you can avoid making a mistake is not to make a decision . Our Owner´s philosophy-
Neil Funk said no.
He decides the roster. But I agree they should keep him on. It’s a long season and if Salmons has any injuries that means midget ball. Plus I think they need his shot and I would think a guy like that could thrive off Rose. Sit in the corner and stroke the 3 ball? Thats a fun job.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
Joakim should get at least 10 points a night.
D ROSE D WADE DESTINY DYNASTY
by Juan dela Cruz on Oct 14, 2009 11:11 AM CDT reply actions
Noah was awesome
last night. There was a 1 on 1 interview with Joakim and Will Perdue on Sports Night last night. He talked about his rookie season and how out of shape he was. Didn’t mention being out of shape last season but said he has learned it’s not about just working out but also eating right and getting enough rest. It was a good interview. I checked CSN but they don’t have it on there yet.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
MIP, anyone?
D ROSE D WADE DESTINY DYNASTY
by Juan dela Cruz on Oct 14, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
I really can't wait for this season.
I think it’s safe to say Noah and Rose are the future. I really wanna see Noah match up against KG thats going to be pretty entertaining. But I think Noah and Rose just wanna win and I think those are the type of guys you need to fill your roster out with. They have the mentality it’s just so fun to watch.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
Pargo's role
I assumed we signed Pargo to be a mini-Gordon. When we need an offensive boost, play him at SG and hope he gets hot.
But he’s played PG this preseason. And 82games says he played more PG than SG in New Orleans (about a 55/45 split, and he sucked equally offensively at both positions).
APM has him at -2.85 offensively, just brutal for a PG/SG. Surprisingly though, he’s at +2.70 defensively, rating among the league’s best perimeter defenders. I’ve noticed he puts in a lot of effort defensively, but because of his reputation (why?) as an offensive specialist, I disregarded his defense as neutral. It could be a noise issue, but it’s a safe bet that he’s significantly better defensively than Rose.
Maybe Pargo shouldn’t be a mini-Gordon, but a mini-Hinrich. He’ll probably win a game or two with a crazy 15pt quarter to keep his reputation, but he might be better used in a Pargo/Hinrich/Deng/Tyrus/Noah lineup that locks down defensively.
so
pargo @ 3? j/k
The only way you can avoid making a mistake is not to make a decision . Our Owner´s philosophy-
Yesterday wwas the first preseason game
I watched, and I was presently surprised with his activity and aggressiveness on defense for a guy that I assumed was a black hole on D. He was getting in shooter’s faces, and fighting through screens. If that’s how he usually plays, i’m not surprised that he rates as above average on D. I specifically recall trying to remember his age and wondering how he managed to keep his lateral quickness on D for a guy I probably think is older than he is.
My problem was more with him playing pg. He was okay with passing, but he only created good shots for people on 1 or two occasions. Most of the time he would give up the ball, and then go spot up on the 3 point line waiting for the ball. The offense ground to a halt versus when Hinrich was in there. When Pargo was pg, Richard usually ended up getting stuck with the ball with the shot clock winding down, and Pargo didn’t move from his spot and go get the ball. He doesn’t seem to realize it’s his job to keep the ball moving, even after he made his initial pass.
It think his failings as a PG are more with his mentality than with his ability.
Oh hell yes! Bulls play tonight?
Anyone know if Rose and Tyrus are still out? I’d assume so.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
I heard on tv
last night that Vinny hopes they will be back for Friday nights game.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
nice!
Lets get the band back together. Damn this game tonight is on Comcast sports plus? It says HD but that can’t be HD. That picture is just bad.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
the channel is in HD
though maybe comcast cheaps out for a road game and doesn’t bring the cameras.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 14, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm recording the game tonight so I'll have to pay better attention.. I just recall
the past few times I have watched and I think it’s CLTV for everyone here but the quality just doesn’t seem up to snuff. I guess it’s the Hawks on Comcast so I understand and I do think Comcast’s HD channel does look better then years past. Maybe it’s the CLTV thing I don’t know.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
CLTV is the regular definition channel
there’s a CSN+ HD channel* that will show the HD feed (if there is one).
*On Comcast Cable, anyway.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 14, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks to be in HD
on DirecTV channel 666.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
i was really impressed with jenning's passing
like mentioned above it was simply amazing that his PASSES were beating the defense.
some passes he was making were from like halfcourt to clear right under the basket.
just amazing
I remember watching him in the McDonalds all-american game
He was freakin’ awesome. He put on quite a show with his speed and passing. Plus, his hair was cut in this late 80’s box-fade with a part. He definitely stood out.
by Rosenscrubs on Oct 14, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Jennings is a beast
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
Question about Noah's preseason mins
Noah played 34 last night and I know they cooled his mins in the 2nd half but is there a reason for this?
1- Is it just cause Brad is old and even when he dresses they only want him going 10min at most in preseason?
2- Is this the plan the training staff made for Noah because of last season’s 1st half conditioning problems?
3- Is there anyway this is a bad thing cause Noah is gonna have to play a lot of mins this year with Brad resting til the 2nd half of season… and Aaron out til Christmas?( are they planning to keep Richard on 12 man roster til Aaron is back?)
I havent read anyhting on this is people have heard anything I’d appreciate the info.
’
Noah had a knee to knee collision on a play,
and the training staff likely wanted him out of the game until they were sure it was nothing serious.
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 14, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
the reports today said he cramped up
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 14, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Brad was sent home
Tyrus was already out, Gray’s already out.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 14, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh...... Aaron Gray is on this team?
I keep forgetting that.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
random thought
Deng + Gray for Stephen Jackson. Make it happen
The only way you can avoid making a mistake is not to make a decision . Our Owner´s philosophy-
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The only way you can avoid making a mistake is not to make a decision . Our Owner´s philosophy-
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Boom!
The only way you can avoid making a mistake is not to make a decision . Our Owner´s philosophy-
"Can't we just be pleasantly surprised that Gibson isn't a stiff?
Mmmm! or TT has been really bad except for a number of hopeful games.
If a real #2 pick was performing in Tyrus’s slot we’d be west coast “LA” type temperment glad to just see a low pick like Gibson playing slighty above average for pre-season, but would be strongly desiring our (Bosh,Garnett,Jamison,Dirk,Alridge) type real power forward to return to the floor.
We’re excited together with Stacey King about Vinny deciding between which of the average players to play?
Stacey King with his 6 inch vertical? the same guy who arrived in Chicago during Jordan era and proclaimed “Chicago was going to be dominated by Air Jordan and Sky King” trying to make a name for himself without an all-star players game, let alone a consistent NBA starter?
Well to his credit Stacey King at least had the moxie to put it out there (he had big guns backing him up in Pippen and Jordan!) This present team crew of young high paid guys are afraid of even their own shadows and act and play like they can’t back up anything…
"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"
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