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Gar Forman: still full of it

As I've said many times this offseason, the first official one of the Gar Forman GM era: until proved otherwise, I can't trust what he says.

And that doesn't mean he needs to tell the truth, or that it effects his job performance. Though it's not a good sign when your crowning achievement in the front office was taking over the Luol Deng negotiations, I'm willing to give him a shot.

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(Actually, we don't know how much he can really do, with the assumption that Paxson still wants to build a team yet just didn't like the messiness of the media or agents, and then the Chairman selectively meddling without seemingly any pattern.)

But no matter the reasons for doing so, Forman was clearly lying when he said at the outset of this offseason that re-signing Gordon was the top priority. And last week ChicagoNow found this juicy quote from Foreman regarding the Bulls aborted pursuit of Carlos Boozer:

Forman added that while he had trade talks with every team in the league, he was inclined to bring back the same team that gave Boston everything it could handle in losing a seven-game first-round playoff series.

"We like the team that we have," Forman said, "and really this summer we had a lot of opportunities to change our roster if we wanted to and we wanted to let this roster continue to grow together."

As Doug Thonus points out in the ChicagoNow post: um, no, it's not the same team if your leading scorer is let go.

And even if that's just an inference on the reporter's part, and Gar means that this roster (minus Gordon) is the one to build around, the opportunities to change the roster weren't passed up because of some love of that roster, but because that roster was up against the tax this season and they want cap room in the offseason.

(also, wag of the finger for romanticizing the Celtics series. In terms of adversity it was Garnett's doctor that gave the Celtics all they could handle)

The quotes from Rose are interesting too, though ultimately innocuous. He sees Boozer as a frontcourt talent the Bulls don't have, and it's something he would like as a PG. And while it doesn't mean he'll be thinking twice when his extension comes up, or that the Bulls had to absolutely rush and get him superior talent to run with, or that Boozer is even the right target...it's just a reminder that it's not about going into the luxury tax for Ben Gordon, or for getting the 14th roster spot on a minimum deal. It's just a means of doing what it takes to get Rose a contending team.

They chose not to go into the tax to do it, so they're trying a different way. The beauty of this way is that even if it fails, at least it wasn't expensive. But it'd nonetheless still be a failure, and these extension talks always seem to come faster than you'd think.

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Wag of the finger indeed...at Ross Siler.

Lowly Jazz writer romanticizing the Bulls playoff run against the defending champs (forgetting somehow that both teams were missing starting forwards)…inferring that somehow our GM was talking about that team, rather than this team…

And I actually agree with yfbb on this one point, the moves were not made this summer because of a love of this roster, rather because they were not the right moves to be made to improve the roster…While a healthy Boozer is somewhat of an upgrade over Tyrus, is he really worth Tyrus and the salary filler it would take to get him here for a one year rental? Is he worth the dollar for dollar tax? I don’t think so…nor do I think any of the players that changed teams this summer are worth it either…

So, yffb is right, the Bulls are more in love with cap flexibility of next summer than this year’s roster…but with the quality of talent that will be available vs. this summer, can you blame them? What else is a GM supposed to say publicly?

Why isn't your friendly Bulls Blogger friendly?

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 12, 2009 10:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Eww im sorry

We were looking for, who is Ron Mercer.

I’ll stay on “Organizations missing on the real talent” for 600 Alex

by TruEChiFaN... on Oct 12, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

True, at least we didn’t sign Gortat for 6 mil or year.

Then again, the Wallace year I think we kind of made a cardinal sin by signing a defense only big man when we already were lacking at big man offense.

Even if he held up to his abilities he showed in Detroit, I don’t think he was the right type of player.

I mean, it felt good to get Miller and Salmons for Nocioni and Gooden last year, and it felt good to dump Hughes, but we were already working from behind in those deals. When we step back and look at the bigger picture, we made some bad decisions that ended up being somewhat saved and balanced out by 1-2 good trades last year. Perhaps a net push.

by RyPac13 on Oct 13, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

6 mill a year for a above average backup PF/C is actually a pretty decent deal.

by C Smoove on Oct 14, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be that disappointed with Joe Johnson..

ok maybe I would.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 12, 2009 11:31 PM CDT reply actions  

i googled gar and got this

weird lil critter isnt he?

The only way you can avoid making a mistake is not to make a decision . Our Owner´s philosophy-

by Belize on Oct 13, 2009 12:36 AM CDT reply actions  

fixed all the 'foreman' misspellings

that wasn’t some kind of inside joke, just me being a dumbass.

USE THE SOFTWARE. Actions-> Rec/Flag. Reply to comments with the reply button. Rec good fanposts/fanshots so the crud gets pushed down.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 13, 2009 8:58 AM CDT reply actions  

garnett's doctor?

i recall hearing garnett was unable to make it up and down the court heading in to last year’s playoffs. he got injured, it happens. let’s not try to make it sound like it was some conspiracy between his doctor and the bulls’ front office that gave us that amazing playoff series. also, no one ever mentions that we were also missing deng. lost amidst all of the luol vitriol on this site is the fact that he was our best or second best player two seasons ago.

that said i agree that it’s a farce for forman to claim that we’re the same roster without gordon.

i'm hot for teacher

by DLRoth on Oct 13, 2009 11:26 AM CDT reply actions  

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

It was a joke.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Oct 13, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

A funny joke!

I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]

by Prevenge on Oct 13, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting how the org filled the remaining roster spots quickly with other more talented potentials

fighting for a spot and little to no dollars below cap available?

"I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it."
"Go ahead, make my day"
"We boil at different degrees"
"A good man always knows his limitations"
"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"

by exult463 on Oct 13, 2009 1:51 PM CDT reply actions  

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