Preseason open Game Thread: Bulls at Milwaukee Bucks
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 10, 2009 7:30 PM CDT
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Listen, if Scott Skiles wasn't such a damned quitter, he would've been a good coach for this team.
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But we're up 2 at the line! :)
No baskets in the first 4 minutes – yuck.
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Looks like we're off to a rousing start, eh?
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That may end up being the better viewing option tonight....
I guess we start to find out who steps up when the offense isn’t working.
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Ben Gordon!
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Nothing on ADTHE, Justin TV, UStream, etc. :(
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 10, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn, this my first time to join a thread this pre-season and no link is available?
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dios mio..
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by Juan dela Cruz on Oct 10, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Yahoo at least has an updating boxscore and play-by-play
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Here
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=An7Nxo5MltNJWYpDsyG7sPC8vLYF?gid=2009101015
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 10, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Yay, someone made a basket!
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Is Noah the only Bull to show up?
He has 55% of the Bulls points and 80% of the rebounds!
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
5 turnovers already
I’m kinda happy I can’t actually watch this.
by darksmokepuncher on Oct 10, 2009 7:54 PM CDT reply actions
Dang it, you are like half a second ahead of me on every thought I've had tonight.
In honor of the dearly departed, I declare July PB&J month - everyone raise a sandwich to the memory of Ben!
don't worry about it happening anymore
I’d rather go back to doing nothing than watch the bulls suck against the bucks
by darksmokepuncher on Oct 10, 2009 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
2 baskets, 2 assists, 5 TOs
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Up until that Taj miss they were hitting all their free throws....
Other than that?
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wow... we have gotten this low, hehe
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by Juan dela Cruz on Oct 10, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks man, better have this than nothing at all, hehe
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by Juan dela Cruz on Oct 10, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
yes sir yes ma'am? 000000000hhhhhhhhhhhh Jammmeeesss johnnsssoonnnn
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by Juan dela Cruz on Oct 10, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Which is actually exceptionally good, considering how the game started.
Only the one TO in the back half of the quarter, and the shooting picked up a lot just to get over .250.
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I like the look on him.
He’s a cute kid.
In honor of the dearly departed, I declare July PB&J month - everyone raise a sandwich to the memory of Ben!
she is a woman her name is wendy.
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by Juan dela Cruz on Oct 10, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
lol -yes, or a very unfortunately named guy. ;)
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Don't mess with Wendy, she is the moderator when Matt goes on vacation. ;)
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 10, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
no link
I think it’s worse when it is televised (other than nbatv) because it isn’t shown elsewhere. No Bulls on WGN in FL….plus Comcast sucks!
I’ll keep searching though. Looks like their making a little come back…down by 6.
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So I guess Jannero has picked up right where he finished the last game?
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Over 50% of the Bulls points from free throws - WTF?
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
Wonder what the team record for worst shooting night is?
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deng in at the 4
which means James Johnson is exclusively a 3 then?
athletic..
smooth, great vision but definitely takes suspect/forced shots and they aren’t going in for him
Crab dribble ;)
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 10, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Can't finish like Rose on the break. :(
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 10, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Vinny's gonna get really good at half-time adjustments if they keep starting like this.
Bucks aren’t running away though
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after one preseason game
no…but after looking like an nba player for 3 games? we need to find a place for him
come on guys let's win 3 in a row
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by Juan dela Cruz on Oct 10, 2009 8:34 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Matt's going hate the big image.
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 10, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
uhm yup, i know hehe
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by Juan dela Cruz on Oct 10, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Rec'd because it's gonna piss Matt off.
Things could be worse. We could have kept Boylan.
by stupidgenius on Oct 11, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Kurt leading the Bulls with 2 field goals - sheesh!
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
For the people watching on TV
how does Jennings look?
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 10, 2009 8:35 PM CDT reply actions
he looks ok so far hell start eventually over ridnour
by bullsrthebest on Oct 10, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
athletic,
smooth, great vision but definitely takes suspect/forced shots and they aren’t going in for him
sorry
that was supposed to be a reply to bball smurf
Turnovers - Official Dessert of the Chicago Bulls!
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 10, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
BAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAA
I support the Tornado Release [See: Joakim Noah]
Cleveland
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 10, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Err, Detroit
(brainfade)
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 10, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
If Kurt Thomas was on the Bulls,
would VDN call him “Kirk”?
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
Krazy Eyes
is KT’s permanent nickname…
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by Ugh It Live! on Oct 11, 2009 3:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Deng posts up!
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
loved that
don’t know what to call it but the little half spin a couple times to get within range-then with his length he should be able to get that shot off at will down there against most SF
Taj Rises!
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
How has Noah
been tonight?
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
Well, he could have been worse....
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thanks.....
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
Noah is on a 15-pt, 12-board per 36-min. pace.
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 10, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Which would be just lovely were he playing 36 minutes. :)
On a night when no one’s been good, at least he’s not the main problem?
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Not without BG :(
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 10, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Someone will get hot and drop 15 points in the span of a few minutes.
That game will be on tomorrow probably.
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Concerned
We all need to deal with the fact that our Offense will be non existent some nights. Yes this is only the preseason BUT without a proven all-star that we can count on night in and out for 25+, it will happen. I think we will get better as the season goes on however!
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Any night that we have D. Rose - DNP
is going to be a long one. :(
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 10, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
If it wasn't for the fts all going to the Bulls it would be much worse.
32 vs 13? Seriously?
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Shooting's come up to .400
TOs may get to 400 too. ;)
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"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 10, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Recd for being so damn Mean
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on Oct 10, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
You don't remember this guy playing for the bulls?
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/waitegr01.html
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 11, 2009 3:24 AM CDT up reply actions
neil funk thinks everything is a quick or bad shot
its annoying
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 10, 2009 9:31 PM CDT reply actions
Saying Funk is annoying is redundant.
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 10, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
How has he been withough BG to complain about?
Has he found a new whipping boy yet?
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he had a 2 minute stretch where he called every Bucks shot a quick shot
so for now, he is just picking on the other team
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 10, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Hunter gets on the stat sheet with a TO! :(
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
wow...23 TO's.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
And only 21 FG's.
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 10, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, I just realized the Bucks have taken 23 more shot attempts than the Bulls
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So who is winning the hot potato game then?
If they are not shooting what are they doing? FT shooting. Throwing the ball away. Is there a third thing?
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Bucks +7 in rebounding.
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 10, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Bulls with 56 shot attempts, 32 free throw attempts, 24 TOs – I didn’t count the and-1s, but there were a couple of them.
Milwaukee +6 offensive boards, -9 TOs. I know it has to work out somewhere, but I don’t care enough to do all the math.
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Indeed, we will be surprised if Byars makes the team.
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 10, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Bulls too close to the Luxury Tax limit.
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 10, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Those contracts are guaranteed.
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 10, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
They are under contract. Can you cut them?
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You can do whatever you want to do this is America
Just say the contract ended, that’s what I would do!
Not a scholar of contract law, then?
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I think you'd have to arrange a...disappearance.
And Gray is a large body to move.
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The "reply" button is your friend.
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 10, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice open field tackle by James Johnson.
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
Lindsey Hunter should not get 1 minute in the regular season
by Basketball Smurf on Oct 10, 2009 9:57 PM CDT reply actions
Must have heard you so he made a three.
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 10, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Why did Noah just play 16 minutes? Did he get hurt?
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Filling the roster
No Rose, no running, so why play Noah unless you need to rest the guys competing for the roster.
12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.
by NBA Observer on Oct 11, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
All in all, I'm surprised the final result wasn't uglier
Second game in a row they’ve been pretty decent from the 3 – although that’s with lots of Pargo time.
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Of course I see it differently...
The Bulls Brass quit on Skiles not the opposite. I believe Skiles did what he had to do because the organization was not really trying to win a championship with allstar players but only good guys who were the bosses favorites.
Skiles moved on and kept his mouth shut, and also continued to collect a Bulls pay check. He is not the type of guy to stay in a dead in position. Yet he out street smarted Reinsdorf, the double tonque dealing suppose imagined saint. I really can’t blame him!
At least in Milwaukee he can help a team improve, Chicago under paxson has peaked and will only vascilate (between 34 to 48 wins per season) in and out of the playoffs, maybe advancing to second round at best when they are able to make playoffs!
Effectively Chicago has given up its #3 draft pick, next will be #2 Tyrus (yes he’s is the #2 because we have nothing to show for the portland trade to #4) and in two to three years, Rose will fall out of grace. Still in Tyrus case he should have been draft late first round or even in the second round or not drafted at all. Tyrus us still trying to learn how to play fundamental basketball…in the NBA, while most guys learn this in H.S.
Paxson will lose picks #3 then #2 and finally #1 draft picks probably for nothing worth noting.
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How so? what did we get for Ben Gordon?
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isnt taj gibson
from the draft pick we got from the thunder for sefalosha.. and wasnt sefalosha and tyrus what we got for aldridge… i thought thats what it was anyway
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No. Victor Khryapa was the other player.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/khryavi01.html
"Then you need a center so if the ball gets stuck between the rim and backboard he can reach up and knock it loose instead of having to spend 15 minutes trying to hit it with a broom stick." – Sam Smith
by Granny Waiters on Oct 11, 2009 3:29 AM CDT up reply actions
If Skiles hadn't quit, the team would have been unlikely to get Rose.
And this team without Rose is HORRIBLE. Makes me think he was right to quit.
I thought he quit because the expectations from management were too high.
But now I’m wondering if he quit on the Bulls because the expectations were too LOW (plus lazy players who were already quitting on him + his fat contract clause.)
It’s unlikely that Milwaukee will be a contender this year (or even to reach the playoffs) but goddamn he would be better than retarded Vinny.
by KentuckyBullsFan on Oct 11, 2009 1:45 AM CDT reply actions
whatever happened happened
now we have rose.. so its all good.. now we needa get 4th seed to prove to wade that hes the missin piece of the puzzle
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I'm going to get real tired
of yelling @ Kirk…I can already tell. I’m all for developing Jo but we looked bad tonight. 2 starters out – I get it but hopefully the game plan isn’t to give it to the guy nobody guards @ the top of the key while Salmons hides in the corner…
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This was a good example of a game that we needed Derrick.
Hopefully, he’ll be more assertive on offense when we struggle to score points.
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I kinda disagree
I thought this was a good example of a game where we’ll lose with or without Derrick. Derrick is great, but if we plan on winning more than losing this year, we’ll need good play from other people on the team too.
For example, Salmons/Deng/Noah are all likely to be in our starting lineup on opening day. They went for a combined 5 for 20 from the field. We aren’t going to win a lot of basketball games when they are shooting 25% from the field, and that’s before you look at the 27 turnovers.
by darksmokepuncher on Oct 11, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions
We view it from totally different sides.
I see Derrick as being most aggressive when the others struggle. If he can get going – just a little bit – it ends up opening up plays for other people. Seeing Luol try to take over is pretty painful, especially when he’s not on his game.
Anyway, it’s totally hypothetical. Hypothetical in that we’ll never know, and hypothetical in that I’m assuming that Derrick is going to be the kind of player that can selectively take over a game – not just “when he’s feeling it.” If he’s not that kind of player, I think you’re right.
Then again, if he’s not that kind of player…we gonna be baaaaaaaad.
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I'm going to guess
that if you turn it over 25+ times against a Skiles team your winning percentage is less than .100.
No Rose and there is nobody to get that basketball on every board who knows what to do with it.
12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.
by NBA Observer on Oct 11, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree. The NBA is a game of stars.
Derrick Rose looks to shoot more in the second half. The teams ultimate success will depend on Rose….which is the way it should be. What I like about this years team is that in some cases all they need to do is play good defense and Derrick Rose can take over the game if needed.
It appears that the Bulls team may be something like Philadelphia when Iverson was in his prime. Derrick Rose will play the role of Iverson, but only when needed. If the other players got it going I think Derrick Rose will be happy to manage it and if not then he will intervene.
This year he will grow into that role, so in that sense Ben Gordon was a crutch for Derrick because he simply could toss it to Ben and if we lost it was because Ben had an off night, but not this year. If he does it well early then he will be an all star this year as he is being marketed to fans as a star already.
One thing Skiles is good at is getting into the replacement refs
heads. That game was all whistles, just hope that crew gets better fast.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
so whats the score?
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If it helps you didn't miss anything.
During parts I suffered through watching on someone’s crappy webcam feed it didn’t seem like any of them cared how bad they looked or that they lost. It was a very sloppy game and Rose wasn’t playing anyway. If Rose gets injured during the season you probably can expect more heartless games like this one. Not even sticking it to Skiles could get any of the guys interested as I would expect.
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That was to Belize. :(
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that bad?
well it sounds like aaron gray is our only hope now..lol
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