First, way to go Sacramento Bee for confirming that the Bulls at least have ‘some’ interest.

If true, Pax is going about this the correct way, start with Hughes.

Spencer Hawes had a decent first month and is still very young. Sort of a shame if they dealt Noah for him less than two years after taking Noah first. But I can see why Hawes/Thomas makes more sense than Noah/Thomas. Also don’t see the Kings doing it.

I would not do Gooden+Noah/Thomas for Miller.

 I think you keep Gooden as part of a better trade. Why would the Kinds want Hughes?

Taking Hawes over Noah to the long list of Paxson re-do’s. Man, if Pax discovers how to time-travel, he could really put a decent team together.

why do they keep trying to get younger?

Trade ID #4912506

We trade Hinrich and Gooden for Sac’s Bobby Jackson, Kenny Thomas and Spencer Hawes.

For Sac Town they get a legit starting Point and Gooden’s contract that end’s this year. We get some scoring punch off the bench with Jackson, keeps gordon in the starting line up and with Jackson’s contract coming off the books this year it gives us the option of reinking Ben longterm. Kenny’s contract somes off in 2010 and it gives us two years to evaluate Hawes.

not Spencer Hawes.

Makes it sound like a rational person would prefer Kenny to Miller. I don’t think so.

Some random thoughts I haven’t been able to put together into coherence.

• Hawes bugs me. I thought he measured out quite poorly athletically, and nothing he’s shown since has really changed my mind. Still, I can’t deny that he pretty much brings what we need to the table. On paper. He hasn’t exactly put things together IMO.
• Given the choice, I think the ideal pairing with him is Tyrus, but the difference isn’t a very huge one in my mind. They’re all pretty big question marks.
• However, there’s a huge and important reason to trade Tyrus for Hawes instead of Noah for Hawes if we have the choice. Since Hawes was drafted in 07, not 06, he’ll still be on his rookie deal, thereby greatly facilitating efforts to get under the cap while keeping a solid core of players together while luring a FA. Hawes is on the books for a tidy $2.5M. Tyrus will be a messy RFA who at a minimum will want a couple times more than that, even if he hasn’t consistently accomplished anything.
• I don’t see how Larry Hughes makes any sense whatsoever for the Kings, who are at least three deep in guys I’d play before I’d consider playing Hughes (KMart, Salmons, Garcia).

The original quote seemed to indicate the Kings wanted Gooden “and/or” a young player. Perhaps a straight up Tyrus for Hawes trade would suit them. Salary filler (Quincy Douby for example) would have to be added on their part.

I could see this being somewhat sensible from both team’s perspectives.

• As pure players, I think Tyrus brings more to the table and more right now. And the Kings have more of the right sort of players to put around him, and they’ve got enough salary coming off the books in the next couple of years that re-signing him doesn’t create the sort of issue for them (via 2010 planning) that it does for us. Having to pay him a year sooner than they’d have to pay Hawes isn’t a big deal, especially if they think Tyrus will be the better player and better fit down the road. With Jason Thompson as a big center type himself, that’s reasonable to believe.

• On the other hand, for the Bulls, it’s sensible to trade a 2010 unfriendly PF, for a 2010 friendly big guy, which we need in the worst way.

• All that said, as much as I’m pessimistic on Thomas, I’m pessimistic on Hawes. And I can see why Thomas might come around on us and Hawes might generally just blow chunks. So despite being able to rationalize it in many ways, I’m not really comfortable with it at the moment.

but the guy seems to injury prone??
he didnt get a lot of minutes last night

Not that Hawes is any kind of all-star…but when did Noah become one? People are giving Noah WAY too much credit in this thread. Too many people suffering from Paxson syndrome – falling in love with our players.

I’d like to start with Kirk Hinrich and Joakim Noah. For the obvious 2010 reasons.

If they will only take equal or better contracts back, then Noah and Hughes works wit hme.

I think Tyrus Thomas wil greatly benefit from having a veteran big man along with him. He looked really good playing with Wallace his rookie year. I think it’s similar to our other young bigs with AD.

But I like Brad Miller. He’s a legit center, and fits our offense with his jumpshooting. It’ll be nice to have a big man that can pass it back out to the perimeter as well. Getting rid of Noah in the process would just make it all the better.

I don’t know what kind of player he will become, but it should be noted that he is just 20 years old and did not start playing center until his junior year in high school due to a late growth spurt. We were all crushed in Sacramento when the Bulls and Warriors took Noah and Brandan Wright just before our eventual selection of Hawes, but we kind of like the kid now. Time will tell.

Noah to Hawes in the ’07 draft, I think Hawes will be the NBA player. And Noah will not be.

Noah makes me sad.

do it NOW pax!

D Rose
D Wade
C Bosh
C Kaman
L Deng

Then I wake up.