TUESDAY'S WORST Andres Nocioni, Bulls: Even though the Bulls beat the Kings, Nocioni gets this...

TUESDAY'S WORST
Andres Nocioni, Bulls: Even though the Bulls beat the Kings, Nocioni gets this spot because he squeezed off 11 shots in just 12 minutes of action and missed 10 of them on the way to a three-point performance.

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Only 2 Bulls players are capable of a game as above.

Nocioni is 1 of them. we all know the other.
(last name rhymes with Spews)

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by chicago-homesick-blues on Jan 7, 2009 10:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Actually, I'm pretty sure BG- and any "shooter"- is more than capable of this.

Anyone else see the entire West Coast Circus Trip this year? BG was awful. Every shooter has an off night. Also, Rose was 2-for-10 in the first half Sat against the Wolves… and that was mostly missed layups, so yeah.

What bugs the shit outta me about Noc is his whining. This was ugly, but wasn’t as bad as one of his bitch-fests.

by smash! on Jan 7, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Add Tyrus, Gooden to that list

by YaoPau on Jan 7, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

How bout TT with 2-17?

by PatBull on Jan 8, 2009 12:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

His era needs to end.

Before anybody’s. I think it’s delusional to think anyone needs to be got rid of before this guy.

Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!

by tyger1147 on Jan 7, 2009 10:43 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I would rather have Noc then Hughes on the team.

"Rest satisified with doing well and leave others to talk of you as they please"

by Bigred15 on Jan 7, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I still believe (how stupid am I?) that Paxson will become competent...

…and eventually direct Del Negro not to play him, hire a new coach who won’t or just sending him home. When that happens, they have a fat expiring contract.

They don’t have that with Nocioni.

Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!

by tyger1147 on Jan 7, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'd rather have Noc than Gooden

At least Nocioni fouls out before he can accumulate significant minutes.

by YaoPau on Jan 7, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

EVERYDAY'S WORST: Andres Nocioni

http://awsomepeoplesearch.com/

by NormVanBeer on Jan 7, 2009 11:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Even when he was hitting his shots?

You know, that 3 game stretch when he hit like 20+pts one, game, had 18 or 19 in the next 2?

Just contesting the “everyday” part. This feels like blind hatred on your part.

by PatBull on Jan 8, 2009 12:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

your feeling would be correct

http://awsomepeoplesearch.com/

by NormVanBeer on Jan 8, 2009 8:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

not to mention

you give 3 games out of 35 when he’s been not terrible?? Give me a break. If your argument is a 3-game sample size, you should just go away.

http://awsomepeoplesearch.com/

by NormVanBeer on Jan 8, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

This morning on 670

Hanley briefly went through the trade assets, and insisted that while Tyrus and Noah have no value, Nocioni does because he plays hard.

This is absolutely insane, but please let it be something Hanley’s actually heard, and not just Hanley not knowing what the hell real value is.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 7, 2009 11:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

hell

if other GMs think he actually has value, i hope pax takes advantage of it. :P

by Jaina on Jan 7, 2009 11:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

If another GM thinks it, I'm sure Paxson does, too.

I’m sure he wants Nocioni to provide an example to Thomas and Noah on how to play hard. He doesn’t even care if, in his mind, it hasn’t worked yet.

Plus, we’ve heard (or a sportswriter did and we read) that Paxson isn’t necessarily pursuing 2010. That makes Nocioni’s contract less of an issue to him (or a non-issue, since he gave the contract).

Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!

by tyger1147 on Jan 7, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

His value is in his fist

pump it baby!!!

by J Theory on Jan 7, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think KC made a very similar statement.

by CJ Bulls on Jan 7, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

It could be what Hanley heard from the Bulls

De gustibus non est disputandum

by Sports2 on Jan 7, 2009 1:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

well that cuts all sorts of ways

heard from the Bulls that other teams want him? (yay)

heard from the Bulls that the Bulls value him? (barf)

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 7, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know

I think he needs to be put on the shelf for a few months. His whole playing at a 100% all the time and not resting up during the summer have to be hurting him. Maybe with a chance to rest and heal up all his nagging injuries we might see a return of t he guy who filled the UC with NO – CI – ON – I chants.

by silentpete on Jan 7, 2009 11:37 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

People are slowly starting to realize how bad he's been

The truth is, he’s played this year like someone who doesn’t belong in the league. He’s become completely undisciplined both offensively and defensively. He just fires up jumpers whenever he catches the ball, and he doesn’t even try to stay on his man anymore. When he and Hughes are in the game at the same time, there’s no ball movement whatsoever out there. I don’t know if he’s playing hurt or if he needs a strong coach (like Skiles) to rein him in, but either way, he shouldn’t be out there.

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by Big D on Jan 7, 2009 11:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

If we're ripping Noc for shooting wide open jumpers

could we at least get an alternative such as “pass it Noc” or “dribble penetrate”?

Last night Noc was taking WIDE OPEN shots. They were not falling. Noc is asked to shoot. A shooter can’t just pass on wide open attempts.

Dog him for the failure to drive when it’s the one resort a shooter has to use when their shot isn’t falling.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Jan 7, 2009 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

EXACTLY.

And blame the coach for keeping him in the game… But like I said in another post, at least he wasn’t bitching at the refs at all last night. PROGRESS!

by smash! on Jan 7, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

fine, blame Vinny

but if Noc goes 0-10 again, he should just take off his shoes, leave them midcourt, and retire.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 7, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

(think of the cap savings)

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 7, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm thinking

about this for now.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Jan 7, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

same deal with tyrus?

Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens

by Yibs on Jan 7, 2009 7:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

um, no?

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 7, 2009 7:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Of course not.

Why should it be the same deal for a young player who is oozing with unfulfilled potential and a never ending stream of on court issues (dunk contest comments, deliberately taking a day off due to sulkiness, 2-17 games)?

by PatBull on Jan 8, 2009 12:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Thomas contributes in ways besides shooting (most of the time, exclusively besides shooting)

if Noc isn’t hitting shots he shouldn’t be on the court.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 8, 2009 9:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The correct spelling is

“L a r r y H u g h e s”.

by Granny Waiters on Jan 8, 2009 12:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Here's the issue for me:

he didn’t stop shooting. Immediately. When he got the ball, he shot. Jacking up 10 shots in 15 minutes is a lot for anybody. For a eighth man, who’s cold, it’s just unacceptable, stupid play.

I have a lot of criticism for VDN. But for me, his worst trait is that he caters to vets (Nocioni, Hughes) who shouldn’t be making mistakes that they do, while punishing young players who need need the experience.

And are better.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Jan 7, 2009 12:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

12 minutes, actually

by Jaina on Jan 7, 2009 12:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i don't doubt if Noc was 3-11 instead of 1-11

he would’ve remained. It’s that kind of learning curve with Vinny

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 7, 2009 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

What was the alternative?

Play Hughes more? Play Thabo more?

The Kings were collapsing on all of our guard penetration. We have to play 3 point shooters. Hughes and Thabo really aren’t 3 point shooters. Wait, why don’t we have more three point shooters?

I need to update my sig.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Jan 7, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs