Open Thread #48: Chicago Bulls at Phoenix Suns
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 31, 2009 5:50 PM CST
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This one
is extra exciting for me personally. I’m gonna try to get (good) tix out front. If that doesn’t work, I’ll be watching (and tipsy) from the bar.
Can’t lose either way, HA!
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
Might be best to be drunk
for this kind of game
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
This is B.S.
I can’t find one Bulls fan willing to go tickethunting with me cuz of the UFC fight. I bet if we had a winning record….($$%$)
"Kiss my Converse!" - Sho'nuff
http://albaaa.altervista.org/watch.php?id=205
last night this link was the best one. It froze for a few minutes.
How about a link to Penn vs. St. Pierre?
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
by Khalid El-Amin on Jan 31, 2009 7:48 PM CST up reply actions
Just kidding about the fight link btw...
I’m just psyched that the Bulls are fianally on WGN. I hope my eyes can adjust after watching so many pixelated games.
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
by Khalid El-Amin on Jan 31, 2009 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
I'm thinking there will be something that goes down at the all star game...
Although I’m fairly certain there won’t be any all stars involved.
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
by Khalid El-Amin on Jan 31, 2009 8:01 PM CST up reply actions
* and by "goes down" I mean "announced".
But that might be giving Pax too much credit.
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
by Khalid El-Amin on Jan 31, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
When was the last time we won two games on the same season against the Suns?
Just want to know. Not that my confidence is high…
Time to see some STAT
Standing Tall And Traded (hopefully)
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
Nice patience Tyrus
good start
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
Tyrus would have sent that Shaq shot into the stratosphere too
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
Thomas almost made Stoudemire fall over on that jab-step.
As he gets more experience and gets better and can actually finish plays like that, WOW!
Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!
Something tells me Shaq
will make his presence known in the paint to Rose sooner than later
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
Nash just crossed Nash over
Thats all day if he gets the space to operate
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
* Rose crossed Nash over
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
by Khalid El-Amin on Jan 31, 2009 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
He's that good :)
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
by Khalid El-Amin on Jan 31, 2009 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think I'm going to like Deng double-teaming Shaq.
I know Stoudemire is a way better player than Hill, but Shaq is used to kickouts from double-teams for his whole career. Let Thomas help-side defend and if Shaq is finding Stoudemire, then switch up.
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Wow, great energy is doing it well.
Damn, bad foul from Noah. Shit.
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Rose dwarfs Nash in size
crazy
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
Jesus Shaq is a monster
Bring in GRAY! The ultimate Shaq stopper!
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
I'm kidding by the way...
But we all know it’s coming.
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
by Khalid El-Amin on Jan 31, 2009 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
the sad part is that should be expected every game
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
Looks like Porter is the ultimate Shaq stopper.
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
Tyrus block turns into....crap
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
What about that homer tv site?
I forget the actual link.
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
by Khalid El-Amin on Jan 31, 2009 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
Come on guys help him out...
He’s in another country for God’s sake!
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
by Khalid El-Amin on Jan 31, 2009 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
I love when TT blocks like that...
But he needs to learn that he could just as easily catch them like Bill Russell used to do.
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
JC
Rose has six shot attempts already
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
one sweet floater-type-thingy!
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
there it is
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
It looks like Rose is scared to go to the damn basket
"One thing I do know is teams like a lot of our pieces. That's not to say they want to give us a lot of players in return, but I know they like a lot of our pieces." - John Paxson (1/21/09)
TT, your quota of jumpers has been reached this half
please just cut to the basket
ALI
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
Seriously?!?! Gray and Nocioni already?
What that 14-11 lead that bad???
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Especially since Porter out-coached Del Negro and took shaq out.
Del Negro sucks as a coach.
Except that was a slick pass by Gray.
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nice dunk by Rose
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
Sick pass by Gray...
BG blew that last night
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
Rose just dunks it.
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
by Khalid El-Amin on Jan 31, 2009 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
What the hell, did VDN just yank Rose?
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
I absolutely hate this lineup
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
I hear a lot of Wows
when Bulls Rose dunks or TT Blocks.Are there many Bulls fans in Phoenix?
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
There are actually.
WGN superstation.
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
by Khalid El-Amin on Jan 31, 2009 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
Former Cubs fans sort of thing, I think.
Or something.
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Yep...
Spring training is a yearly mecca too.
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
by Khalid El-Amin on Jan 31, 2009 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
I have a bunch of family there...
All snow birds. Cubs fans too.
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
by Khalid El-Amin on Jan 31, 2009 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
Hmmm.OK.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
There's a big Chicago contingent there.
My grandparents live there, and they know a lot of people. But eh.
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
Nice...
They’re trying to run Shaq into the ground.
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
Remember Shaq being in foul trouble against Sweetney?
Lets see what our bigs can do with Shaq.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
man, VDN is outcoaching Porter so far. I feel bad for Suns fans.
by fundamentallysound on Jan 31, 2009 8:33 PM CST reply actions
I still hate this lineup.
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
by Khalid El-Amin on Jan 31, 2009 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure.
The Bulls are nine-deep in the first quarter.
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OTOH, if they're able to run them out of the game by the end of the game....
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he switched to a zone D and messed up the Suns play on that Shaq turnover. Porter was expecting
man to man. Porter also is allowing himself to buy to into taking Shaq out because of the Bulls fast-breaking.
by fundamentallysound on Jan 31, 2009 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
But yes Porter isn't doing much to exploit it.
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
by Khalid El-Amin on Jan 31, 2009 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
What's more likley?
Aaron Gray getting a shoe deal or Tyrus Thomas learning how to use his jump shot effectively.
I would DEFINITELY rock some Aaron Grays!
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
by Khalid El-Amin on Jan 31, 2009 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
You mean the AG 34's?
"One thing I do know is teams like a lot of our pieces. That's not to say they want to give us a lot of players in return, but I know they like a lot of our pieces." - John Paxson (1/21/09)
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 31, 2009 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
Please tell me there really is something called the AG 34's...
I’ll be buying them tonight if so.
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
by Khalid El-Amin on Jan 31, 2009 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
If only it were true
"One thing I do know is teams like a lot of our pieces. That's not to say they want to give us a lot of players in return, but I know they like a lot of our pieces." - John Paxson (1/21/09)
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 31, 2009 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds like something a nurse might wear.
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
by Khalid El-Amin on Jan 31, 2009 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
Oh man, that's rough...
It’s probably because the game is on WGN and nobody here is streaming. Sorry bro.
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
by Khalid El-Amin on Jan 31, 2009 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
Has Nocioni always released his jumpshot on the way down???
If not, he seems to be doing that somewhat often.
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I noticed that too
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
somewhere Eric Spoelstra is not worrying
about his job security
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
incorrect spelling probably, whatever
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
i was hoping you wouldn't find one
because now we have to listen to you rip BG for no reason all night long
I’m just gonna get it out the way now and tell you to “shut up”
…moving on
http://awsomepeoplesearch.com/
You don't get a workable link because you don't know how to reply.
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Noc...
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
haha that'd make a nice t-shirt
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
he ran out of all the bullets from the shots he was taking
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
Uh oh...
That’s what ahppened right before he took a swing at Brad Miller.
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
Nice ball movement
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
Second in arow,Good.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
Thomas and Deng back please.
Deng in for Hinrich (Thabo at the 2 if so wanted)
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sefolosha's jumper looks nice tonight
by fundamentallysound on Jan 31, 2009 8:44 PM CST reply actions
He already tried one a couple of games ago
But at that time the shot was short. But he developed that shot and is brilliant
+10 against the suns..
i know it might be my positive thinking, but looks like the bulls machine has somehow enrolled… i love the way they play since the roadtrip!
Is anyone keeping track of VDN's rotation...
I swear he’s already subbed like 20 times.
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
looks like the WGN camera guys
aren’t having trouble finding more Bulls fans
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
There's more there than at the UC
"One thing I do know is teams like a lot of our pieces. That's not to say they want to give us a lot of players in return, but I know they like a lot of our pieces." - John Paxson (1/21/09)
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 31, 2009 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
Christ, I steop away and Nocioni is still in?
SHOWCASE!!!!
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Over/Under one free throw for D Rose in this game?
"One thing I do know is teams like a lot of our pieces. That's not to say they want to give us a lot of players in return, but I know they like a lot of our pieces." - John Paxson (1/21/09)
under... he's afraid to go inside. He's been shooting floaters and midrange J's to avoid getting into the paint
by fundamentallysound on Jan 31, 2009 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
I'm with ya
"One thing I do know is teams like a lot of our pieces. That's not to say they want to give us a lot of players in return, but I know they like a lot of our pieces." - John Paxson (1/21/09)
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 31, 2009 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
haha @ lane violation for Kirk
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
I'm pretty sure my little cousin
is stronger than Noah on the defensive end
and she hasn’t been born yet
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
Oh man
Derrick. Rose.
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
WOW.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
On offense.
I’m still waiting for those moments on D. Multiple steals, a block here or there. I need to see promise there. Please.
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Derick knew kirk is gona miss.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
If the Bulls win this game with Thomas and Noah playing major minutes....
….I’ll well-pleased.
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Bulls are working the offensive glass pretty well
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
VDN throwing a little 7 seconds or less up in there
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
man that was a block. even the suns announcers said it was
by fundamentallysound on Jan 31, 2009 8:54 PM CST reply actions
If Derrick can just do a few things a little better he's gonna be incredible
"One thing I do know is teams like a lot of our pieces. That's not to say they want to give us a lot of players in return, but I know they like a lot of our pieces." - John Paxson (1/21/09)
Rose has made 3 plays most NBA point guards never make
in the first half of this game
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 31, 2009 8:56 PM CST reply actions
the Suns are a playoff team in the West... the Bulls are just playing better. They are hustling a lot more.
It’s encouraging. Props to the players and to Vinny (pains me to say that) for getting some results.
by fundamentallysound on Jan 31, 2009 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
Rose is boarding hard tonight. Dude is beasting.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
bench-tacular
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
You mean cuz they were playing the Fox football music?
"One thing I do know is teams like a lot of our pieces. That's not to say they want to give us a lot of players in return, but I know they like a lot of our pieces." - John Paxson (1/21/09)
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 31, 2009 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
Wow, odd coincidence. Shaq is on NBC literally right now.
Getting his ass spanked by Tracy Morgan.
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Well, you need to watch The Best of Tracy Morgan to find out.
You’ll see a great skit in that one, but a whole lot of fun in eveyrthing else.
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Grant Hill, really?
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Grant Hill reminding people he isn't Penny Hardaway
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
Fuck.that was sick.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
vinny calling a timeout after that dunk
reminds of lenny wilkens strategy when playing the old bulls. Would call timeout after every big dunk by pippen. grant or jordan to try and keep the crowd out of it
Suns fans from the 1990's are spinning in their grave
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
Bulls are the 7th-best rebounding team in the NBA in January.
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Amazing what happens when your good players play!
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
T-Time isn't getting the help D that he needs
"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."
BG has been forcing a LOT of shots tonight. Almost all of his looks have been forced.
by fundamentallysound on Jan 31, 2009 9:05 PM CST reply actions
he's made some of the shots he's forced, but they have been forced. the last one he made was a good shot, but the one before it was terrible.
by fundamentallysound on Jan 31, 2009 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
seriously
ben only has 6 shots. and he is 4-6. people see what they want
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 31, 2009 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
Look, I love Ben. I'm a huge Ben booster. Seriously, go look through my past posts on the matter.
He’s shot well and he hasn’t taken a lot of shots, but of the shots he HAS taken, a lot of them have looked rushed or off-balance. That’s all I was saying. Christ, guys.
by fundamentallysound on Jan 31, 2009 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
and you are wrong
christ. he isn’t forcing shots. shooting the ball quickly coming off a screen is part of his game
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 31, 2009 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
he's been off balance a lot. I think it might have been partly because the shots he missed
were WAY off, because he was leaning while he shot them. That’s mostly what was sticking out to me.
by fundamentallysound on Jan 31, 2009 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
Well, I guarantee at least ONE was forced.
That second three he made was about as forced as it gets.
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one shot...
with the shot clock winding down
It was winding down becuase he held it for 10 seconds.
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I will say, that very first one was definitely not forced.
I think there was another that was forced for sure. I don’t “remember” the rest.
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This is one of those many instances when "scouting" (or watching the game)...
…complements the use of statistics.
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haha that quote about the "shrimp on the barbie"
so funny… it sticks as a cliché for some reasons… No one puts shrimps on the barbie..
oh, and shrimps are called prawns here.
Nash is such a great finisher for someone whose hand never gets near the rim.
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I forgot Noc can dunk.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
c'mon
that was gray’s fault for not stepping out
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 31, 2009 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
Wow, what a play by Derrick.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
That's your Go To guy ,right there.:)
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
agreed
for all of the nice shots that he’s making, he’s giving them back on the defensive end
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he is not getting any help on the pick and roll from gray
he is not as bad as everyone claims
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 31, 2009 9:12 PM CST up reply actions
u cant get beat on 3 straight possessions....
our your wont have any big guys left to finish the damn game.
gray went up and apologized to Rose
after he hit that jumper. he was suppose to jump out and he didn’t. if you think someone is guarding Nash 1 on 1 you are crazy
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 31, 2009 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
i don't think anyone is saying that he's gonna stop Nash
but his resistence could be a lot better
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get the hell out of here
rose never stops anyone one on one. no excuse for getting beat 3 consecutive times….help defense or not
on the pick and roll you need both guys on the same page
gray was 10 ft out of position 2 times in the row. typical fan, watch nothing but the ball
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 31, 2009 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
rose got beat one on one....
wasnt referring to any pick and roll situations. Hes good…but you dont have to make excuses for the man.
you weren't watching the game
and you are making an ass of yourself. He got beat one on one on the first drive than they ran 2 pick and rolls in a row.
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 31, 2009 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
you dont know shit....
they just showed the highlights to end halftime
I think you might be a bigger jerk than me.
And that’s saying something.
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And I like that Rose was talking to gray about this.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
And he is a Rookie for God's sake.He will improve his D,no question.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
Am I the only one who was screaming
“2 for 1” when they were bringing the ball down with 36 seconds left?
--Torch
Deng plays really good defense.
It’s what makes him better than your typical SF.
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Um... obviously?
I don’t think anyone plays “really good defense” against LeBron James.
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tyrus and noah is in foul trouble
who else is left to play?
Yeah I kind of wish he'd close quarters
when we have the lead at least with a more defensive minded lineup
I don't know if I'd call that "forced" by Gordon...
…but it was definitely not a “good” shot.
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you guys are killin me tonight
with all this “forced” shit…let it go
He was open, it was in the flow of the offense, it went in…end of story
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youre just being an oversensitive gordon appologist...he has been taking tough shots...and he is good at making those.
tonight he is dropping everything so let him shoot until he begins missing then get him out! cuz we can win this game so as no one starts chucking (and missing).
whatever
if he forced it, he forced it…but nothing I’ve seen has been forced. Maybe ONE shot has been “bad”, but the rest have all come in the flow of the offense.
Obviously you guys are nit-picking
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Derrick is looking sick tonight
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
me too, best defensive player on the team.
by fundamentallysound on Jan 31, 2009 9:30 PM CST up reply actions
me 3 but thabo is the best defender.
tyran can become that the second he want to.
I don't want to get too much into this, but Tyrus has been the best defensive player on the team for the last three years. Even as a rookie.
by fundamentallysound on Jan 31, 2009 9:34 PM CST up reply actions
He led the league in DRtg as a 20-year-old rookie.
No one has ever done that under the age 24 or something. And it’s usually done by guys like Garnett and Duncan.
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Wow Neals a moron
"One thing I do know is teams like a lot of our pieces. That's not to say they want to give us a lot of players in return, but I know they like a lot of our pieces." - John Paxson (1/21/09)
Why the F is Hinrich already in?
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Looked like shoe malfunction for Rose.
See how long it takes to get Rose back in.
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This has to be some kind of minor injury
"One thing I do know is teams like a lot of our pieces. That's not to say they want to give us a lot of players in return, but I know they like a lot of our pieces." - John Paxson (1/21/09)
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 31, 2009 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
The officiating stinks.
The Bulls would be up 10 if it was even handed. Shaq knocks Noah down and the ref ignores it. Heavy contact then the Bulls drive the paint, no calls. On the ohter end, incidental body contact is whistled every time.
Even though the Bulls have been just as agressive on offense, the Suns have shot 20 free throws to the Bulls 8.
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
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Ok this is usually where I complain about VDN taking out rose
but having Kirk come off the bench to keep him fresh doesn’t sound too bad hopefully it works. _
What a horrible call
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
that was a block. they only called it because he was coming from behind.
by fundamentallysound on Jan 31, 2009 9:33 PM CST reply actions
hmmmm slow fade....
we lead by ten, and then the funny lineup comes back.. hope it holds till rose comes back! what about thabo? he played decent in his few 1st half minutes..
yes. perfect time to squeeze them with some defense.
id put thabo on Nash. cuz nash aint that quick.
yo da soulsnuffer wont take your soul forever
but as long as your here better take some sould together
soul snuffing is a bidness
and bidness is always first before pleasure
Cuz Del Negro doesn't have quick hooks with Hinrich, Nocioni and Gooden.
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Seriously. Pay Gordon is fucking money.
Tell him he’s a starter and going to get AT LEAST 30 minutes a night. Keep Hinrich and let him come off the bench. Run a 3-guard lineup out there for 5 minutes a game. Everyone’s happy.
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Meh, I still believe in Thomas and Noah and hope for a good draft or future Free Agent.
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Kirk, Gray, Noc are all in
This is awful
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
what is going on?
i don’t get these lineup changes.
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 31, 2009 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
stop the gray hate!
blame it on noce rather! Gray is doing great!
Can you come back on defense after a turnover maybe noce? optional?
oh my goodness
let me guess…that absolutely wide open three that he just took was forced right?
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see, I know a good shot when I see one. That was a good shot, he just missed.
by fundamentallysound on Jan 31, 2009 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
well what was it?
he just missed a shot…what the hell do you want him to do?
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okay, well that's just silly then.
by fundamentallysound on Jan 31, 2009 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
You know when Noc misses an open shot?
And everyone goes crazy off on him . . .
It was kinda like that
It's not his open shots that piss me off
It’s not even when he’s trying to drive and get the ball stripped off.
It’s when he drives to lane, gets stripped, and bitches about it to the refs instead of hustling back on d.
see that is a good Ben Gordon shot... even though he missed.
by fundamentallysound on Jan 31, 2009 9:38 PM CST reply actions
Noce's turnovers always lead to fastbreake forn PHX.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
Thanks.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
Anyone think Thomas will play enough to get a 5th foul?
If he doesn’t finish the game or get the 6th foul, I’m gonna freakin’ flip. (or not)
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everyone:
anytime a Bulls player misses a shot from here on out, we’re all gonna fly off the deep end, shout obscenities, and go crazy ok?
http://awsomepeoplesearch.com/
See?
I could say FUCK NOC, I HATE HIM . . . for missing that wide open shot.
And everyone would get it.
Even though it was a good shot
I am
Quite honestly, I don’t think Ben helps out the team. I think he helps himself.
I know I know I know . . . He scores.
everyone
please commence to ignore anything that Option has to say about Gordon…it’s all idiotic
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Well, as long as you realize you're wrong, I can accept it.
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ill do it for u. fuck noc. i hate him
fucking samll ball idiots cant even run a break
Why people say that that was a good shot.
No it wasn’t. A good shot has to enter the basket. The others are bad shors. Period.
that gets the award for dumbest comment of the night.
by fundamentallysound on Jan 31, 2009 9:46 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe for you, not for me
What’s the point of shoting well and not getting the basket? We won’t win games with good shots, but with shots that enter the basket. Period
good shots are more likely to go into the basket. taking more of those shots = more wins.
they won’t ALL go in though. you dolt.
by fundamentallysound on Jan 31, 2009 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
3 actually
Look, if he can’t the basket, it’s because our range was not good. You can say what you want. Call me names, make funny comments, that wont change my mind. The best shots are those that go in. Not the one that go out.
Note: good shot it’s not the same thing of a contested shot that still goes in
How about 6 fouls?
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
Ever since that stupid asshole took Rose out three minutes into the fourth quarter we've been a different team
"One thing I do know is teams like a lot of our pieces. That's not to say they want to give us a lot of players in return, but I know they like a lot of our pieces." - John Paxson (1/21/09)
*third quarter
"One thing I do know is teams like a lot of our pieces. That's not to say they want to give us a lot of players in return, but I know they like a lot of our pieces." - John Paxson (1/21/09)
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 31, 2009 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
the strangest substitution ever
what was the point? what did he do? VDN is losing it…
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 31, 2009 9:50 PM CST up reply actions
losin it implies he ever had "it"
by fundamentallysound on Jan 31, 2009 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
I really think it was an equipment thing.
He went to the sideline messing with his shoe.
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deng missed a wide open thabo on that last possession.
i wish this whole damn team could pass like thabo.
WAY too much Noc tonight
he’s played almost 20 min…Vinny is fuckin this game up
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at least Noc is out now...
so he can rest for crunch time :/
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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 31, 2009 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
Meh. Thomas has four fouls.
You have to live with it. The problem is if Gooden were back, it’d still be the same.
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Then he gives it right back
"One thing I do know is teams like a lot of our pieces. That's not to say they want to give us a lot of players in return, but I know they like a lot of our pieces." - John Paxson (1/21/09)
when on earth
are the rest of the bulls going to learn that each possession ends up better if thabo touches the ball?
please chill with the thabo talk....
when did thabo become kobe?
Did you just start watching Bulls basketball?
Honestly. Sefolosha started about 15 games in the beginning of the season, and he was fucking awful. Sefolosha isn’t a good player with extended minutes, he’s good as a player off the bench
beginning of the season deng was shooting 28% tyrus 25%
and i agree…you cant have a reluctant sdhooter like thabo in a line up like that.
So you're saying that Sefolosha's potential is synonymous with Thomas's and Dengs'?
Are you a real person?
No,
he was saying that Sefolosha’s strengths don’t work with what were [at the time] the team’s weaknesses.
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
naw..just a fan of defense first players that move the ball on offense
and ive had season tix for a long time.
every time they show the taco bell sponsorship
it makes me want to go get some…
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guys I put up an overflow thread
start posting there…this thread is way too slow
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Has Rose even taken a shot this half?
"One thing I do know is teams like a lot of our pieces. That's not to say they want to give us a lot of players in return, but I know they like a lot of our pieces." - John Paxson (1/21/09)
linkage for the lazy
Vinny Del Negro: "I'm not a puppet, I'm a REEALLL Coach!"
by chibullsfan03 on Jan 31, 2009 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
Giant "ShaQ" Killer!
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
by Azabullsfan on Jan 31, 2009 10:04 PM CST up reply actions
tyrus with a really smart play
even though he was just about to do something really stupid
Wasn't Terry Porter supposed to fix their D?
Derrick Rose will lead us back to the promise land.
In Vinny We Trust!
he is failing
*fixed
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
What the hell was that? OFFENSIVE FOUL
Derrick Rose will lead us back to the promise land.
In Vinny We Trust!
This could get bad really fast :(
I want another win. That would be 3 in a row. We didn’t reach that milestone all last year.
5 on shaq
please, please, please let him foul out before our whole team does
That fucking sucks, use judgment refs
Derrick Rose will lead us back to the promise land.
In Vinny We Trust!
Nobody had that ball...
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Shaq is gone!
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany." - Ron Burgundy
TT with a jumper!!
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany." - Ron Burgundy
Don't speak too soon - this is the Bulls after all
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WTF is that? Get a better shot
Derrick Rose will lead us back to the promise land.
In Vinny We Trust!
They haven't won 3 in a row all season IIRC
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Why are Rose and Gordon both on the bench???
Somebody PLEASE tell me why that is the case. Ridiculous at this point in the game regardless of whether we are winning or not. I want Rose to develop experience at these points in games and I want Gordon on the court anytime it’s like this.
by lexdiamonds0730 on Jan 31, 2009 10:27 PM CST reply actions
Also...
Rose was favoring his right ankle after that dunk.
Man, we lucked up.
Phoenix didn’t hit us in the mouth tonight like a San Antonio, Cleveland, Boston or L.A. I want our two best guards in the game at the end and they are Rose and Gordon. If they are being removed because of defense, then the coaching staff needs to address that issue and see to it that those two get better. But honestly, Nash did more in the last few minutes against Hinrich and Thabo than he did all game. I don’t think Gordon or Rose would have done any worse.
by lexdiamonds0730 on Jan 31, 2009 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
Thabo (in for D) with the trey!
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He didn't decimate anything.
I’ll add you to the chorus of people who treat Steve Kerr’s breaking up the Suns like Jerry Krause’s breaking up the 98’ Bulls. It’s not like he broke up a dynasty or something…unless you consider a team that continually gets to San Antonio a dynasty of sorts.
Phoenix loses because Amare Stoudemire is a knucklehead who only cares about scoring points and being “the man”. 12 pts, 6 rbds and ZERO DEFENSE (the whole Phoenix team is guilty of that though) will not get it. If this guy raises his level of all around play, phoenix becomes damn near unbeatable.
by lexdiamonds0730 on Jan 31, 2009 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe...
before typing you should learn to read. I said nothing of the 98’ Bulls and never wrote anything resembling the word dynasty.
What the Suns did have was a system that maximized the efficiency of numerous players—Nash, Marion, Amare, and Barbosa. It was clear the team wasn’t a championship team; they were, however, a competitive one and given their last attempt as a unit showed clearly that they could compete as one of the top teams in the West.
What do they have now? A 25-20 record. The Knicks comparatively have a 21-25 record, with a horrific lineup.
That seems like a decimation. Point A to Point B.
by McCabe on Jan 31, 2009 10:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Who gives a sh!t about a competitive team that loses when it counts...
….every time?? When your window of opportunity is closing more and more and keeps getting slammed shut by the same two teams each year. Kerr tried doing something different and the only reason it’s not working is because guys aren’t buying into the part of it where you have to play defense every night.
In pro sports, being competitive without winning the championship at some point is failure!! If this keeps up it appears that they may reach the same lofty place that the D’antoni led Suns reached…which was watching the NBA Finals at home from their couches.
by lexdiamonds0730 on Jan 31, 2009 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
So there's no difference between the 06-07 Bulls and this team?
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
They are both losers!!
06-07’ Bulls team was decent but nowhere near great. It should be obvious to everyone at this point that what we saw was fools gold because we haven’t gotten back to that point. And because Paxson thought they were great he’s fallen in love with our “core”. I like our guys, but if we can get better players then lets do it because we WILL NOT win a championship with this team.
In this league, you don’t strive to be decent. You strive to be great and to win. Now it’s fine to be decent while building toward something (Portland Trailblazers), but if it culminates in nothing and you realize that it’s not going anywhere then it’s time to change direction.
by lexdiamonds0730 on Jan 31, 2009 10:56 PM CST up reply actions
Oh...now I get your argument.
you lengthen your window of opportunity by trading for an extremely old player as your team was clearly in contention for a championship. You attempt to turn your team into defensive stalwarts, despite their having minimal individual defensive skills. Oh and then you trade your best one on one defender for Jason Richardson.
Empirical assertion—statistical backing—even a well constructed argument—any of these things might make this less absurd. But if a team is good and now is bad, that is a decimation. Trying something doesn’t make it right.
ok mccabe. whatever you say.
i was a teenager when the Bulls were winning championships and i remember the feeling of being a champion. i cannot relate to people who are happy simply because their team is “competitive”.
As I said, if you’re a young, up and coming team and you’re “competitive” then that is different. But if you’re a veteran team and the formula isn’t working anymore then you gotta try something different. That’s why the Pistons traded Billups. They got a championship out of it but realized that the conference finals was as far as they could get now. Rather than settling for that, they moved Billups, let Stuckey loose, will let Iverson walk at the season’s end and will start in another direction. You don’t keep banging your head against the same brick wall.
by lexdiamonds0730 on Jan 31, 2009 11:00 PM CST up reply actions
You were a champion?
Did you play on the team?
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
In all honesty though...
…i’m as much of a champion as the old run-n-gun Suns.
by lexdiamonds0730 on Jan 31, 2009 11:05 PM CST up reply actions
The problem is they aren't any closer to being anything good. They're futher away.
And Kerr obviously made his moves to make them better. Kerr has made them worse while not setting them up to be better in the long run. That’s bad management.
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Why, because they won't win 60 games??
Who cares if you win 60 + games and lose in the playoffs (Dallas Mavericks)???
When the Houston Rockets won the championship in 95’ I believe they won 47 regular season games. Let’s see how it plays out. It’s not even all star break yet. So in this case we truly won’t know if they’re better until the post season. For their sake, I hope they don’t meet the Spurs too early…LOL.
by lexdiamonds0730 on Jan 31, 2009 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
You can be a real fool sometimes.
They’re a worse team than last year. That’s in dispute?
They have more salary committed to next year than last year. That better not be in dispute.
They have fewer young, good players than last year. That better not be in dispute either.
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What good young players did they have last year that played tyger???
Besides Diaw. Barnes is productive and is an old man seeing as though he’s a whole two years older than Diaw.
And they are a whole 2 MILLION in salary above where they were last year.
GO AWAY!!!!
by lexdiamonds0730 on Jan 31, 2009 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
Dude, the Suns suck this year by their standards.
Can’t beat a good team to save their lives. Defensively they are worse now than they were under D’Antoni, and now are so committed to throwing it down to Shaq that they are such a predictable team. Shaq should be used as just another weapon on a deadly team, not the primary offensive option.
And you sound like Rick Reilly with this whole “win 60 games but no ring” bullshit. For 3 straight seasons the Suns were in a position to make the Finals because of their style of play. It’s not Mike D’Antoni’s fault Amare Stoudemire is a lazy egomaniac, or that Shawn Marion was worried about what people thought about him while in the midst of an important playoff series. The Suns might not even make the playoffs, and if they do they would just get crushed by either LA, NO, or God forbid they play the Spurs again.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Jan 31, 2009 11:44 PM CST up reply actions
You made my point for me Ozzie!!
My whole point is that if Amare would up his 21 pts 8 rpg numbers and play some defense then the whole discussion of whether Kerr destroyed the team would be moot. Stoudemire longs to be mentioned alongside Duncan and Garnett. Well seeing the impact Garnett had on the Celtic “culture” and the impact Duncan obviously has on the Spurs, I would argue that if either of these guys were on the Suns then Phoenix would be a much better team. I mean seriously, do you think Phoenix would force feed Shaq if Duncan were on the other block? I doubt it. Hell, they probably wouldn’t have felt the need to obtain a guy like Shaq. And do you think Phoenix would be mediocre defensively if Garnett was there? Do you think Garnett would care about Shaq getting as many scoring opportunities as he does? The answer to both Garnett questions is a resounding no.
My point is that this team should be better…and it’s not Porter’s fault, it’s not Kerr’s fault and it’s not D’antoni’s fault. Porter knows the game and is at least a decent coach and D’antoni is a creative mind. Bottom line is players gotta get out there and get the job done and right now the Phoenix players are too busy complaining about everything under the sun and everybody is too busy making excuses for them. Oddly enough, the only guy on the court for Phoenix being held accountable is Shaq. People continue to talk about what he can’t do anymore while COMPLETELY IGNORING what Stoudemire and Nash don’t do (and never have done for that matter).
by lexdiamonds0730 on Feb 1, 2009 2:28 AM CST up reply actions
He took over the second best team in the NBA
And he decimated the franchise, to the point that the team may miss the playoffs. And he did it within 2 years. I know he was a popular player with the Bulls, but there’s no need to kiss his ass.
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
They had the best record in the West last year when they made the Shaq trade
I don’t know if they would have won the championship, but they were one of the 2 or 3 teams with the best chance.
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
How many championships did Phoenix win playing 1000 mph???
Hell, how many NBA Finals did they make playing that way?
Name me ONE NBA championship team in the last 30 years that wasn’t at least decent defensively. The only teams you can come up with are the Lakers (Magic led Lakers and Shaq led Lakers) and the Suns didn’t have anyone as good as the two best players on either of those teams. Besides that though, their style was simply NOT going to win them a championship. So Kerr went in a different direction and if guys on that team would quit crying about how it used to be then they may actually still be one of the better teams. Any team with one of the 5 best PG’s, one of the 5 best PF’s and one of the 5 best C’s in the league should be a top team in the league. Can that really be disputed? It’s on the players and not on Steve Kerr.
by lexdiamonds0730 on Jan 31, 2009 10:53 PM CST up reply actions
You realize...
that you are arguing nothing aside from his having a reason for making moves, not that our statements are incorrect.
Just chill out and shut up.
Alright tough guy.
You win smarty pants.
by lexdiamonds0730 on Jan 31, 2009 11:01 PM CST up reply actions
Good Lord
They ran into superior teams in 2005 and 2006, and weren’t even at full strength both times. In 2007 they had their best shot, and David Stern fucked them over. Those are excuses, but frankly they are good ones. The Phoenix Suns during the SSOL era were mediocre defensively, not atrocious like everyone wants to believe. Their D Ratings over the 3 years were 17, 16, and 13.
They are a worse team now because Terry Porter is retarded. Shaq is not a MVP player anymore. To base your whole offense around a declining star when you have an amazing PG, PF, SG, 6th man, and a bevy of offensive options is just plain stupid. I liked the Shaq trade, but the style of play they implement is horrible.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Jan 31, 2009 11:51 PM CST up reply actions
So David Stern made Stoudemire cross that line in 2007?
Another excuse for a boneheaded move.
As for the style of play, I’m no Suns fan so I really don’t care. But one thing I do know is that whatever style wins in the playoffs is the style to go with. SSOL was not going to win. As I said before, as long as there are strong defensive teams with a bit of offense to go along with that, the style of play the Suns played was not going to win. They simply could not compete when not allowed to do whatever they want offensively. Works fine over an 82 game regular season where you don’t see teams 4 to 7 times in a row. But when a team can focus on you it becomes ineffective…as we saw.
by lexdiamonds0730 on Feb 1, 2009 2:34 AM CST up reply actions
Results speak for themselves.
They did not win. Second place overall is first place loser!!
I’ve got as many Western Conference and NBA Championships as Steve Nash, Amare Stoudemire, Shawn Marion, etc… combined over here in my trophy case.
by lexdiamonds0730 on Jan 31, 2009 11:03 PM CST up reply actions
I am sure...
your invisible enemy feels as decimated as Steve Nash.
Based on Nash's comments recently...
….seems he feels pretty decimated :(
by lexdiamonds0730 on Jan 31, 2009 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
Kiss his ass?
I could give two shits about Steve Kerr. If you knew anything about me you’d know I’m big on players taking personal responsibility for their performance. I just feel that with 3 players who are in the top 5 in the league at their respective positions (Nash, Stoudemire and Shaq) and at the very least a solid supporting cast, there is no one to blame but themselves. Now they could use another shooter, but I get tired of people blaming Kerr and the players blaming the system. It’s not the systems fault that Stoudemire doesn’t understand defensive concepts. It’s not the systems fault that whenever the Suns play the Spurs Tony Parker kills Steve Nash. Man up Phoenix!!
by lexdiamonds0730 on Jan 31, 2009 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
Why has Nash been given a pass his whole career for not playing defense?
Maybe we can?
by Granny Waiters on Jan 31, 2009 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
The only guy people around here demand play defense is....
…Ben Gordon.
Nash isn’t the only one though. Stoudemire is an even worse culprit. Nash doesn’t have the physical gifts to be a great defender (although it’s less about physical gifts and more about wanting to be a defender), but Stoudemire has everything you could ask for. If someone were to build the perfect athlete, Amare Stoudemire would be close to what you’d come up with. There is NO REASON other than himself that he doesn’t completely dominate just about every night!!! He wants to be great so badly. Well the great ones dominate on a near nightly basis. He is no doubt a damn good player….but he’s still quite a ways from being great.
Stoudemire at 26: 22.3 ppg 8.2 rpg 1.8 apg
Duncan at 26: 23.3 ppg 12.9 rpg 3.9 apg 2.9 bpg
Garnett at 26: 23.0 ppg 13.4 rpg 6.0 apg
Malone at 26: 29.1 ppg 10.7 rpg 2.7 apg
Barkley at 26: 25.8 ppg 12.5 rpg 4.1 apg
Now do you think Nash would have to force feed Shaq if any of these guys were in Stoudemire’s place? Probably not. At 26, Barkley would break Nash’s neck, Malone would score 14 pts on fast breaks alone, Garnett would just get in where he fit in and be a great teammate, while Duncan would just flat out be a better post option than Shaq at 36.
by lexdiamonds0730 on Feb 1, 2009 2:49 AM CST up reply actions
There's no\one issue I would raise here -
STAT’s numbers have been badly depressed since Shaq’s arrival. At the beginning of the year, before Shaq started playing every game, Amare was spoken of as a potential MVP. Last season, largely pre-Shaq, he averaged 25 9 and 2 blocks while shooting 59% from the field. That’s incredible.
Whatever the reason, he’s not getting touches, and he have evidence that when he does, he produces wonderfully.
I only mention this because I want to see Amare continue to struggle, and Luol and Tyrus to continue to rise. So we can trade them.
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by MPG on Feb 1, 2009 9:35 AM CST up reply actions
25, 9 and 2 blocks.
For the most part I’ve never had a problem with his offensive output. But the guy doesn’t rebound enough for me (9.6 is his career best while all those guys above have career AVERAGES better than his best season). Also to not be a huge scorer he doesn’t involve teammates enough (as evidenced by his career high 2.1 apg). Now would I take him on the Bulls??? YOU DAMN RIGHT I WOULD!!! He’d INSTANTLY be BY FAR our best player and winning starts with having superior talent and he is no doubt superior talent. I’d give away Deng and Thomas in a heartbeat for Stoudemire. But Stoudemire still needs to do more before he is talked about in the same breath as Garnett/Duncan like he longs to be. Those two are just so much more complete as players than he is….and they were much more complete when they were 26 which makes me wonder if he’ll ever be that way. Is he talented enough to do so? Yes. I’d argue he has more natural physical ability than Garnett or Duncan. But he doesn’t have their mindset and therein lies the difference.
by lexdiamonds0730 on Feb 1, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
since everyone played a great game
can we not put him on the list?
Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens
If the Bulls win, they'll sweep the season series from Pheonix
but does that make up for getting swept by the freakin’ T-Wolves?
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"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany." - Ron Burgundy
1st 3 Game Win Streak In Almost 2 Yrs!
Turning the Corner i hope.
OH MY FUCKING GOD. THIS IS REALLY HAPPENING. RIGHT????
when are we going to add a 7th championship?
by broseleay301 on Jan 31, 2009 10:38 PM CST reply actions
Man i guess tuning in late at BaB helps. 3 game winning streak. The Bulls are ALIVE..... THEY are ALIIIIVEEE.
when are we going to add a 7th championship?
by broseleay301 on Jan 31, 2009 10:39 PM CST reply actions
Wow
Is this not the Bulls first three game win streak in about two years?
by SickeyDimpkins on Jan 31, 2009 10:39 PM CST reply actions
Sefo looks like he's cut out of the same cloth as Ron Harper or Pippen.
not saying skill wise saying like body type.
3 game win streak 3 game win streak 3 game win streak ...
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Tyrus' impact is better than his stats
+18 rating! That block on Amare was clean, man Tyrus is the best leaper in the league, nobody explodes as fast as he does. It is too bad kirk missed him on that cherry on top alley oop.
Funny Shit
Everyone who played had a positive +/- except, yes you guessed it…….
Andres Nocioni
by Avrich on Jan 31, 2009 11:00 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Its Vinny's Lineup
He plays Noc out of position and he s having a horrible year. If you check his stats, he is simply in a slump. Vinny relies on him way too much. When I saw him guarding Stoudemire, I wished they fire Vinny at that time.
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it was also much appreciated
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Some Blazer fans are just ridiculous.
Nocioni has an Olympic gold medal, a bronze medal and a EuroLeague MVP, and now… His legs are broken! Coming to an arena near you.
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 1, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
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