Live chat with Sam Smith.
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I left a comment on the blog last week . .
And to my surprise, Sam actually e-mailed me back to respond. He said he’d be stunned if Vinny is fired during the season. After the season, he said it’s probably 50-50, but Sam is guessing he’ll be back.
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
last week I would've been stunned too
but they’ve looked SO discombobulated since then…
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 28, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
Sam usually responds
even if it’s a grammatically-challenged one liner, but he’s real good about getting back to those who email him.
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by Ugh It Live! on Jan 28, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
so you're saying I have a chance?
by ImmanuelKant on Jan 28, 2009 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Unless you ask a real stupid/nonsense question,
in which case you’re on your own, but I’d be surprised if he didn’t respond.
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by Ugh It Live! on Jan 28, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
No.
If we aren't careful, the leanness we now feel will be the starvation of those we serve.
by Chi 'Till I Die on Jan 28, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
Mine
Do you think the Bulls will ever trade one of the former big 4 who are now turning into the cap hold big 4: Nocioni, Ben Gordon, Kirk Hinrich, Luol Deng?
What trades do you see happening this year, if any?
If not this year, do you think a trade will be set before next year begins?
What does the team think of Noah and Tyrus? Do they still have the high hopes some of the fans do, or are they getting tired of the slow development (esp of Tyrus)?
Are Noah or Tyrus on the block?
Is Vinny on the way out?
Is Pax on the way out?
I can’t partake in the chat, so if anyone wants to ask some of these it would be awesome (of course then post the link here :).
I plan on asking
From what you’ve seen so far and based on past experiences, do you think Derrick Rose has not only the physical skills, but mental skills/determination to be the leader of an elite NBA team?
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
You should add...
or do his deficiencies of getting to the line, getting rebounds and lack of playing defense concern you?
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Good points
but do you think that can be chalked up to rookie inexperience or bad coaching? Both?
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by Ugh It Live! on Jan 28, 2009 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
yeah, both
but also, just… abilities. It’s a combination and hard work and good coaching don’t mean they MUST improve. There’s a chance he may never be a good defender. I’d like to think that’s unlikely, but…
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I think he's got all the potential
to be a great defender in the NBA. I’m not positive but I don’t think DWade (to whom Rose has been compared with) was known as a great defender in his rookie year.
Similarly, once Wade got into the playoffs and went 100% to the rim, he started getting the calls, and hasn’t stopped (almost to a fault) getting them. Hopefully this will happen with Rose, assuming the Bulls make the playoffs this year/next year in the next 5 years.
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by Ugh It Live! on Jan 28, 2009 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
I mean Kirk Hinrich never got the calls either as a rookie….oh wait….
But anyway, I think he’ll start getting some calls, it’s a bit crazy that he gets next to none.
I think the defense would come.
I do know Wade was more apt to take the chances on D and put a body on his guy a bit more than Rose, but I do think actually as a rook Rose is more explosive and a much much better passer than Wade was (and less apt to make TO’s)….
I think Rose’ll be pretty damn good, coaching or no coaching.
I don't think it's ONLY about not getting calls.
I think he does a lot of trying to avoid egregious contact so he can still get a good shot off. I don’t want to speculate as to how much one is compared to other.
And he definitely seems to have the physical tools to defend, but he doesn’t, or hasn’t, yet had the mental tools to do so. He’s not aggressive at all on defense. Maybe he just doesn’t “like” contact in the sense that… on offense, it makes it harder to score, on defense, you can get fouls called on you, which is bad.
Anyway, that’s all obviously speculation. And I think that mindset can be changed, by him, by a teammate, by a coach, whatever. But if that is the case, there does need to be a conscious effort for it to change. That doesn’t mean it will, though. I just wish someone would have taught him or he would have changed by now.
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Here you go
3:49pm
Sam, do you believe that Derrick Rose has been held back in any way by Vinny DelNegro’s coaching? It’s obvious at this point that defense is not a strong point of this team or coaching staff, but Rose looks especially overwhelmed on fighting screens and taking angles.
Mike, South Loop, Chicago
Tough question because Rose has gotten so much time to play. Usually players are held back by lack of PT. Rose is finishing games and being put in position to take big shots, but I do agree that on defence he needs some more coaching. He is a quick learner and I think will be a good defender because he is strong, quick, and willing. But you can’t ask a head coach to do everything. One flaw in the Bulls staff has been the veteran assistants. It seems they were brought in for guidance. But Harris and Bickerstaff don’t seem to work with players much so I would like to see someone perhaps brought in to do that more. Mike Wilhelm and Pete Meyers are widely respected but they have to do a lot of the advance scouting and game prep. It seems the Bulls need a little more help working with the players on the floor.
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by Ugh It Live! on Jan 28, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
Harris and Bickerstaff don't work with the players much?
WTF do they do all day? What a joke of an organization.
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After he said that I put the question in asking
what exactly Harris/Bickerstaff DO as coaches and he never responded…guess he was too busy answering questions about picking up the check for Neil & Stacey and why Scottie Pippen isn’t the Bulls head coach.
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by Ugh It Live! on Jan 28, 2009 5:06 PM CST up reply actions
I think I might ask about West or Colangelo or what people would JR look at...
or does he have a plan for replacing Paxson. Or does he even care about this team anymore.
ARGHHGH!
3:08pm
What do you think is bugging Nocioni this season? I know they’re losing, but he’s seemed abnormally upset over it. I’ve found it strange.
Cameron, Chicago
I think you’re exactly right. I’ve noticed a much higher level of frustration from him this season which is why I think he’s most likely to be traded. In part because he has a lot of value in the league and you can get something for him and also his increasing frustration level. He’s had a lot of success in basketball, a gold medal with Argentina, and a playoff run with the Bulls. It’s tough for a veteran like him who plays with a high level of energy, almost a frenzy, to play with so many young players who make mistakes on the court, particularly Noah & Thomas who are getting more time now.
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
Well, he did say he thinks he's most likely to be traded.
I have no idea how he says that, but I hope-to-god it’s true.
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by tyger1147 on Jan 28, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I like how Thorpe says NO to Marbury to Boston and Smith says YES
Just goes to show (sort of), these guys know nothing more than we do when they aren’t using sources or evaluating basketball.
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This "live chat"
isn’t very live. You have to refresh to see the new posts, which come at the top and are confusing at first to read. I’ve seen better live blogs at KSK, but only now there’s no dick jokes.
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
Do you know how long this is supposed to go for?
He sure is taking his time to put up questions and answers
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by Ugh It Live! on Jan 28, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
I just realized
I asked a question to myself. Woops! Sam’s ‘live chat’ has me baffled…no wonder BaB was created.
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by Ugh It Live! on Jan 28, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
that confused me as well
it’s pretty lame so far…and even his chats have the big font, heh
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Here you go Matt
3:16PM
Do you think Ben Gordon is young and worthy enough for the Bulls to keep around as a starter/backup at both guard positions?
Jim, Chicago
At one time I would have liked to have done that and I’ve recommended it before because I’ve always felt it would be difficult to replace his scoring, but I think relations between Ben and the team especially in light of the latest little incident with the team fine for being late, have detiorated. I’m not sure Ben would embrace the kind of 6th man role with the Bulls that he might now somewhere else. He’s turned down big contracts twice and the Bulls rejected one once apparently. So there’s a growing history here that would make me nervous about bringing him back. I like Ben as a player and if he embraced the 6th man role he’d be one of the best of all time but he doesn’t seem to want to do that.
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"One of the best 6th men of all time" does not equal "good enough to start on shitty team"
I’m glad I got that cleared up.
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I replied to that w/ the question to the effect of
Why do you think BG only deserves a spot as a 6th man? He’s been the leading scorer for 4 years on the Bulls, doesn’t that at least warrant a starting spot?
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by Ugh It Live! on Jan 28, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
I posted a similar question of
why is Ben always a candidate to be moved to the bench
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not trying to be an ass
I can only think of one starting sg that is similar to ben gordon, and that is michael redd. Other starting sgs are or at least were good defenders, good ball handlers, good at getting to the line, good passers etc (not meaning starting sgs ARE ALL of these things, but a combo of them) Ben and redd are the only two starters i can think of that are single dimension, and i would say that redd still has a upper hand because he at least isnt as turnover prone (career 1.65 vs bg7s 2.45). I think that is why he is a 6th man. A starter has tons of responsibilities aside from just scoring, its also why i embrace kirk as a 6th man because if he just had to be a starting sg, or a starting pg, his flaws would prevent him from being productive.
Thats just my reasoning, i welcome arguments.
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the problem with that is
we’re not comparing Ben to the rest of the league. We’re talking about the Chicago Bulls. You’re gonna tell me Ben isn’t the BEST SG on THIS team? The best SG should be starting, end of story.
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I agree he should be starting right now
but longterm that is the problem. Ben gordon is not a starting sg, if he is a starting sg on your team, then your team has problems….hence the bulls. Thats what i think everyone in the league refers to when they talk about ben gordon being a good sixth man, they are in a nice way saying, man the bulls have problems. Its not bens fault at all, the team was built idioticly.
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i didnt say he shouldnt be a sg
he obviously is one, im arguing the responsibilities of a starting sg. Riddle me this, why does manu come off the bench? Its not for the publicity.
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because Sam Smith told him he could be the best of all-time at it!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 28, 2009 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
Good Guess!
but no. Its because manu cant handle the responsibilities that come with the starting role. He is an extremely passionate player, much like noch, he goes all out on the court. He has no regard for his own safety when driving at the rim, and he exausts alot from himself when on the court. All are good things to have in a player, especially one with such tremendous skills as manu, however it also makes him a liability as a starter…he is more prone to injury, he can step away from poppovichs schemes to start games with, he has to go at it (and man will he go at it) with fresh sgs at the start of game which can lead to mistakes or fouls on his part hindering him for the rest of the game. Thats why manu doesnt start, but at least poppovich understands to let him finish. Vinny should realize that much about ben gordon.
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yeah, I don't think it's that complicated.
Pop just likes the gimmick, the Spurs can handle it as a team, and Manu gets to ease his body with fewer minutes.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 28, 2009 5:41 PM CST up reply actions
touche sir :)
i still dont believe im completely wrong though….
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just thought you might like this read, or not...
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/77656-the-manu-effect-where-your-starters-are-not-your-best-five
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that is ridiculous, i'm sorry
manu has led his countrymen to more international success than they have ever experienced before in basketball. He is a rock star in Argentina and the designated big shot hitter for the Spurs and has won 3 NBA championships. He could definitely handle the responsibility that comes with starting.
He doesn’t start because the Spurs like to go to Duncan and Parker at the beginning of games, and Manu when he comes off the bench becomes the primary scorer. Whenever the Spurs have a rough stretch, they move Manu right back into the starting line up.
When the Bulls get Parker, Duncan and Finley, than maybe making Ben Gordon the 6th man will make sense.
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 28, 2009 7:59 PM CST up reply actions
He doesn’t" the Spurs like to go to Duncan and Parker at the beginning of games"
how does that justify putting manu on the bench? they could easily go to duncan and parker with manu on the floor starting, in fact it would be easier to. Also i think the two years manu started the most he got injured (because he played less than 82 games those years) not to mention that marv albert mentions it in 2k9 ( heh)
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Well, if Manu's going to just sit there on the wing watching Duncan and Tony go to work
then, yeah, it’s a lot easier to let him watch from the bench w/ Bowen and Finley as the spot up shooters until Pop feels they need Manu. Those would be wasted minutes on the floor for Manu and if they want to limit his minutes anyways, they better make every minute he’s on the floor count.
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I agree
with yfbb here. Manu can be a starter, but Pop likes the whole save his legs thing. He’s proven a solid starter in the playoffs as well….but he definately jolts their offense when he comes in….and that’s the argument for Ben, a weak offensive team might benefit to have it’s really great offensive player as a spark off the bench. Popovich saw the Skiles tactic and how it worked with us and copied it with his team. And Parker and Rose on the speed factor are pretty similar……
I dont know about that
Ray Allen was a better defender and rebounder than gordon. Though it wasnt any high level of such talent. He also had more assists. He wasnt by any means exceptional in any of the categories, but he could definetly contribute more than bg7 could on all ends of the court, especially defense and rebounding
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Seriously...
Look here. That’s all three of them through their fifth season, which just happens to be their age 25 season for all of them.
You compared him to Michael Redd. Ray Allen was virtually the same player as Michael Redd. Look at them in their first five years. Only difference? Much more assists for Allen, much fewer turnovers for Redd. They’re virtually identical everywhere else. Neither are perfect comparisons to Gordon, but if you’re doing one, you’re doing the other.
I have no idea why you argued this point.
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To a lesser extent
Gilbert Arenas
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by Ugh It Live! on Jan 28, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
ehh
id argue arenas is WAY better at scoring than gordon is, he gets to the line alot more, and he can definetly play the point, he has tremendous ball handling ability and passing ability, he just rarely uses them since he can score his way out of situations. Id say ben gordon is a poor mans arenas….
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You make a good case but I'd argue that Arenas had a better team than BG
Compare Arenas’ first 5 years with Ben’s career so far and in regard to your points you almost nailed it.
FTA:
Gordon: 1,475
Arenas: 2,384
AST:
Gordon: 1,078
Arenas: 1,858
TOV:
Gordon: 886
Arenas: 1,152
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by Ugh It Live! on Jan 28, 2009 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
Also take into account
that Ben’s 08-09 season is included in there and it’s only 1/2way through.
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by Ugh It Live! on Jan 28, 2009 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
man
that fta difference is huge! I want to see numbers like that from rose….
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I know it's ridiculous
dude had 640 and 799 in 04/05 and 05/06 respectively…he had to have been atop the leage in 05/06.
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by Ugh It Live! on Jan 28, 2009 5:24 PM CST up reply actions
If you think about it
consider if rose got the calls he deserves, you know when he is fouled but theres not call. He would be easily our top scorer in terms of ppg….he is at what 16.8 right now. He is fouled at least 4 times when attacking the rim, and the foul isnt called per game. thats 8 more fts, thats 24pts!! That would be the difference between a win and a loss for half the games weve lost this season.
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I know there's gotta be somewhere out there
where you can find out how many fouls are called on a specific player. For instance, the # of fouls called on DWade vs. DRose. I guess you could just take the FTA and divide by 2 but that’s not the most accurate #.
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by Ugh It Live! on Jan 28, 2009 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
I suck at finding stats like that
or maybe its because im just lazy…i guess now i know how michael redd feels when playing defense.
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am i not allowed?
also i didnt think you’d mind since i wasnt being completely ridiculous in my arguments…then again maybe you really dont care but see it fit to point out that its not surprise that i would argue ben gordon as a starter….
…its kind of my fault, i came out boldly with the concept that im a hinrich fan, and thus maybe anything i say pro hinrich or anti gordon isnt taken seriously because it is at least anticipated that there is going to be a huge bias involved. Although if it means anything, i do try to be sensible and objective in most of my more serious points…..then again…you probably dont care either way :)
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I don't "care" like it's anything meaningful in my life that matters.
I do care that it fosters good discussion on basketball on a comment section of a blog about basketball.
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And of course you're allowed.
I just think it’s funny.
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Oh, and this comes after I read your "not ray allen"...
…point above… which I find to be completely and utterly ridiculous given your own comparison to Michael Redd.
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Mess with a tyger, and your gonna get bit
or something like that?
at any rate, i just looked at the stats from nba.com player cards for both allen and redd….you are right they are very similar. Ray allen being slightly better than redd i suppose. Although through observation i would say allen is much better at defense than redd is. Either way, it just proves that gordon doesnt contribute well enough to be a starter, since his numbers are only similar to starting sgs in the categories of scoring alone.
Just to be straight, i dont think scoring isnt valued at all at the sg position, nor do i think gordon should be a sixth man right now on this team as currenlty constructed. My initial argument is more to justify why the entire league continues to call bg7 a sixth man and not a starter, and that is because i believe a starter has more responsibilities to the game than just scoring. Defending, rebounding, and being able to control turnovers is also a big part of being a starter and its those things that gordon is exceptionally weak in.
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don't go to nba.com for stats
have you learned nothing? you consistently ask for places to get stats, and no one has ever once mentioned nba.com, save for maybe hot-spots or something.
I don’t like ignorance, but God, do I absolutely hate willful ignorance.
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Im lazy
Willful ignorance indeed…:)
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Around the league
Most execs see Ben as a 6th man, has no PG skills, and Redd is 6’7" and much better player, while Ben is 6’1", you’re giving up a lot of size when you start Ben, and problem has been teams will continue to post up Ben and make Ben defend or the Bulls double-team, Ben is probably a better player coming off the bench then starting, and Ben doesn’t play bigger than his size, the Bulls truely need a traditional 2G.
size dont mean much
but in terms of defense guys who are lengthy have a better chance of guarding someone cuz they can position themselves further away from who they are guarding, to anticipate the drive, and still keep thier hands in the opponenents face to alter shots. The problem with redd is that he is one lazy mo’fo on the defensive end. His size does give him the ability to take advantage of shorter defenders, something that ben gordon doesnt get a chance to do (which is both a weakness and a compliment since he scores so well despite the defender often having an advantage)
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So...no deal?
3:25pm
What is Paxson going to do this trade deadline, we’ve seen this before with little willingness to take action. Thoughts?
several emailers
Obviously the first priority is to trade Hughes. That’s no secret. It’s going to be difficult and I wouldn’t worry about that much. If they don’t trade him they can send him home after the deadline and he’ll have value next season because of the expiring contract. The Bulls will look to make a deal, the most likely players to be available will be Noc and Hinrich, not because they’re not valuable but because the ar valuable. Teams are intersted in them and routinely ask the Bulls about them. If you want to make a deal to get something you have to give up something. However, if a deal doesn’t involve Hughes I’m now thinking that there’s less than a 50% the Bulls would do something now. I don’t think it’s vital to, at this point. The key is this summer with the draft and potential free agency with expiring deals of Gooden and Gordon. That’s when I would expect to see more moves as much as everyone would like to make the playoffs, just getting in for a first round exit it not crucial to the development of this team.
Doesn’t Gordon have a no-trade clause because of his 1-yr franchise tag?
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he does
I think Sam means just letting both him and Gooden expire. But that would still not allow them to be players in free agency (outside of being under the tax enough to use the MLE)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 28, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
Pax can't
Pax can’t afford to stand pat going into the 09-2010 season, he has to get some new blood on this team, this team as constructed is already stale, he need to get as many new faces as possible
If Pax doesn't make some sort of move by the deadline
he really, really needs to be shown the door.
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Do you think Vinny will make a change to the starting lineup to possibly get us off to a better start? Marc, Oak Forest
I hope so. I still cannot quite understand why Vinny keeps Gordon in the starting lineup along side another small guard in Rose. I think it hurts the team and I think you need more defence to start the games. Vinny seems to believe he needs Gordon out there for scoring. If that’s the issue I might consider starting Noc at 4 with Thabo or Hinrich at 2. I do think this current starting lineup needs to be shaken up a bit.
" I've looked at these numbers and decided the #1 problem
is that Ben Gordon is selfish..." -your friendly bulls blogger
this current media structure needs to be shaken up a bit
or a lot.
Even after Nocioni is traded he’ll still be seen as an option.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 28, 2009 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
Then we can have that game where Noc starts for both sides
and we can finally see how great it is to take advantage of him on offense….
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
Oh, a shakeup is coming
Unfortunately, that shakeup will probably consist of a newspaper folding, instead of actually providing better coverage.
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
what's the point
if John Jackson just moves on to Bulls.com as well? :)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 28, 2009 5:41 PM CST up reply actions
KC Johnson's already on the Bulls' payroll
So at least he wouldn’t have to worry about being out of a job.
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
Followed by Sam's #1 suggestion: rotation consistency.
I need liveblogger consistency
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Noc starting at 4 and Thabo at 2? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
defence
haha
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
Sam's just all about conventional wisdom, isn't he?
There is absolutely no outside-the-box thinking in that head (except for maybe trades, where conventional wisdom might not even exist).
I never read Sam Smith so this is all based off of this, basically.
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he is
such as that the Bulls need Gordon out because they need defense more. As awful as their defense is post-Skiles, the offense is STILL worse.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 28, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
I like the way you wore willing to break up the Bulls roster in your last column do you think the Bulls will actually do it?
I really don’t know. That’s why I play shadow-GM. I did it for Jerry Krause for a number of years and he didn’t listen. Look where he ended up? Just kidding! One reason I came up with that scenario is because I continue to grow weary about persuing a 2010 free agent. We’ve seen it collapse twice. In 2000 and the trades for Curry & Chandler. As you can tell from some of the questions today fans aren’t excited about the way things are going this season. It’s a long way until 2010. If you get there with a stripped roster and don’t get anything it’s a long long way back up again. The key with Derrick Rose is to get another player that is a chance All-Star which is why I suggested Monta Ellis. There are issues with his team and contract. Most around the league feel the Warriors will move him at some point. He’s not perfect with Rose becuase he’s a small-ish shooting guard but is a dynamic player and a chance to be a star. What the Bulls need is a player with a “chance” to be a star. The chances of getting one now (Stoudamire, Nowitski, Bosh) is pretty slim. To get a player like that you have to give up a star and the Bulls don’t have one to give up. I think there’s Ellis and some other good pieces that make sense like Kaman, who also seems to be wearing out his welcome with the Clippers. The Bulls have pieces that teams like and can plug in right away, Noc & Hinrich. The competition in 2010 will be fierce and maybe not wortht the risk.
Tell me how he can knock Gordon for being a “smallish shooting guard” like 3 comments earlier then suggest that Monta freakin Ellis is a better alternative? Dude had one solid year playing Nellie-ball and he’s better than an established scorer?
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
Ellis
Ellis isn’t a better shooter, but he is better player, he can defend better than Gordon, more athletic than Gordon, breaks people down better off the dribble than Gordon, gets to the basket more than Gordon, I would take Ellis over Gordon hands down.
I'll give you the better handles but
I really think it comes down to Ben not ‘playing big’. Guys like Ellis when they drive seem like they play bigger, as opposed to BG who lowers his body and actually is more like 5’11 when he starts to go up to the hoop. The contrast with BG is Rose, who I would say, gets bigger (better body position) before heading into the lane, allowing him the room to get his shot off.
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Jan 28, 2009 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
Someone seriously asked if Derrick Rose was "as nice as he seems"
I get that you wanna know about the rookie and all but c’mon Sam – you pass up on my questions about what the assistants actually have done this year, whether or not the Bulls need a big man coach, and why you think BG really is a 6th man on this team to answer THAT?
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
Do you feel that the Bulls properly develop young players or is it a coincidence that none of our players in recent history have improved?
I wouldn’t say that. I think the difference with some of the Bulls players is they have drafted players who are relatively close to their ceilings because they were more mature players. That lead to the drafting of Tyrus because the Bulls were urged to draft somebody who was athletic and had a chance to grow. I don’t blame the coaching staff for Tyrus’ lack of development (though he has gotten better). They coaches instruct him to do the right things and he doesn’t always do them. Is that the fault of the coach, talent evaluator, player? I don’t fault the coaches because I’ve seen great players improve without being taught. Magic, Isiah, Jordan came back each year with something new to their game. Some of these players have blown off the summer and not done a lot of work with the team. Players develop most in the summer because during the season you have to focus so much on the games.
So Tyrus’ workouts at IMG all last summer go unnoticed and it’s his fault that what the coaches (and he’s already admitted that Harris/Bickerstaff don’t do much) has fallen on deaf ears? Sam’s losing me as a fan as we speak.
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
you forgot the nugget
that Tyrus Thomas is not Magic, Isiah, or Jordan.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 28, 2009 4:43 PM CST up reply actions
That's one of Sam's favorite lines
he uses it a lot so I just kind of roll my eyes at it now.
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by Ugh It Live! on Jan 28, 2009 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
Sam I enjoy reading your stuff. Do you think John Paxson has overrated his "CORE" players. Who was he bidding against when he gave Noce, Kirk and especially Deng all that money?
A legitimate quesiton. I don’t think the contracts for Hinrich and Noce are really out of line with today’s standards. Both are declining contracts which make them tradeable and in part why teams are interested. In two years Noce will be making under $7MM and Hinrich will be making $8MM which are manageable numbers for rotation players. The contract for Deng is questionable to some extent. I think what happened was the team got caught up in the fear of losing both Gordon and Deng without any compensation. You can’t allow yourself to be in position to lose core players like that. Beacuse they grew frustrated at Gordon’s demands and getting to an agreement, it’s not so much that they were bidding against someone else for Deng they were bidding against their future. Perhaps they overpaid Deng for fear of losing him. Still if they want to go into free agency in 2010 Deng’s contract will not keep them from being in position for going after two major free agents and you do have to have guys on your roster and Deng should at least be a solid rotation player so I don’t think it’s a huge problem going forward.
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at this rate
in two years Noce will have the mobility of an amputee
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 28, 2009 5:03 PM CST up reply actions
dont knock wennington
i just realized he was the “gold” guy in the funk and wennington radio show in the last two seasons. I was excited when i heard funk was gona be doing the television broadcast, but after seeing him flub up a few times and finding the radio still to be far more entertaining, i realize it is actually wennington that made the duo special.
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
Sam was a fool in that "chat".
—Nocioni is most likely to be traded.
—Hughes must be the first to be traded; that’s obvious.
—Hughes will have more value next year, even if he doesn’t play the rest of the season.
—Hinrich has a lot of value.
—No one will be traded this year.
—Hinrich will be traded in the summer because they’ll lose Gordon to free agency.
That’s just on “trading”.
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All seem logical
Except the Nocioni Most Likely to be traded, though it’s possible.
We’ve argued to death the Hughes point, and to be frank, I think you’re on your own island there as these comments aren’t just coming from Sam Smith, I’ve read them in snippets on Foxsports, and ESPN…..and it makes logical sense to boot.
I mean if Raef freaking Lafrentz is getting trade considerations, why wouldn’t a 30 year old Hughes (one who is a better player than Thabo and is expiring—meaning he can help a team on the court a bit and help them considerably in the following year).
It’s not rocket science.
because lafrentz is an expiring contract
and doesn’t have to play?
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Logical? Is today opposite day?
Sam contradicted himself repeatedly throughout the “chat” and that’s what I thnk Tyger’s bringing up there.
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by Ugh It Live! on Jan 29, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah.
I don’t blame major for not getting it. It’s genetics.
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blah blah blah.
yeah, foxsports and espn and sam smith are where i would go for original and insightful information. Surely.
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Where would you go then
Blogabull for all your info?
I trust the web sites for the pulse of what they hear from GM’s.
I don't doubt they "hear" things.
I just don’t believe it has much relevance. Especially on this point. What are they echoing? That Paxson thinks Hughes will have more value next year? Probably. I’m not trusting Paxson’s judgment on things right now. Are you?
Or are they echoing that other GM’s are telling him, “Well, we could trade for Hughes now, but we won’t give up much. But we’ll definitely give something of more value for him a year from now.” Does that make any sense?
So, as far as what they “hear”, yeah, they probably hear more than Blogabull. As far as logical thinking? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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