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That's what I thought.
I like how Ben Gordon disappears from the Bulls after they make the trade for Ellis and the trade for Kaman, both of which doesn’t involve him.
And then he uses Rip Hamilton, who the media is criticizing the Pistons for benching, and Manu Ginobili, who is on a championship contender to knock Gordon for not accepting the sixth man role. How is coming off the bench on a championship contender comparable to coming off the bench on one of the worst teams in the league?
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Its ridiculous
Hamilton comes off the bench because detroit has 2 shooting guards and a combo guard all of about equal ability. Chcago clearly doesnt have that issue. And with all due respect to Pop, the Ginobli thing has always been a silly gimmick, one which is jettisoned at the first sign of trouble (e.g. the New Orleans series last year).
"Hamilton comes off the bench because detroit has 2 shooting guards and a combo guard all of about equal ability."
I would suggest that this is EXACTLY the situation we have in Chicago…
And by "exactly," what I mean is that we have three guards of fairly equal ability levels.
Especially if you’re talking about their all-around game. They all have flaws. BG’s flaws are clearly ball handling, passing, and defense.
who is the second shooting guard?
look, gordon is a shooter. heinrich is a combo. rose is either a combo or a point. gordon gets the 2 spot because he is the best shooter of the bunch. will you start kirk over rose? there is no dilemma here.
This was hilarious and awesome.
It reminded me of those times on Muppet Babies when Gonzo would throw his nose into the air and go ballistic. That’s what the Bulls’ ineptitude has done to Sam Smith. He held it in…held it in…and just went gonzo.
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by MPG on Jan 26, 2009 1:32 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Re: Miller, Kaman
I’ve changed my mind-I’d rather have Pryzbilla.
With our shooters
jumpalot all of them, Przyz is the better option anyway.
See rim. Go there. See ball. Get ball. See Rose. Pass to him. Repeat.
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by NBA Observer on Jan 26, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions
sad
Cuban is saying players may become available, like Pau Gasol last season, for economic reasons with the economy reeling and teams beginning to feel the effects of sponsorship declines.
Unfortunately, the Bulls will act like one of the ‘reeling’ teams and not take advantage.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 26, 2009 2:35 PM CST reply actions
See White Sox offseason moves
The economy IS INDEED factoring Jerry’s moves.
It’s hard being a Bulls fan
That Warriors trade was RIDICULOUS
We couldn’t get Monta for Hinrich, Noc, and Tyrus… and he’s thinking we can get Maggette and Brandan Wright. Eesh.
they supposedly already want out from under Maggette's deal
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 26, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
he is the ideal $50mil bench player for us
combine that with taking on about a billion in guaranteed money for a 5 seed team and Pax should be all over this trade
I realize that, but
no GM is dumb enough to trade for a starting lineup of Hinrich-Crawford-Stephen Jackson-Noc-Biedrins. Not to mention Brandan Wright is putting up serious numbers in limited action.
I was just pointing out that Maggette isn't an asset
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 26, 2009 6:46 PM CST up reply actions
I dunno... there seems to be some bad blood over Ellis' injury.
And I’ve heard they desperately want to be rid of Maggette
But still how can you simultaneously pine for putting Ben Gordon on the bench and trading for Monta Ellis. Even if you think Monta is a better player, is he really that much better? Is he any sort of a fit next to Rose, or do you really want two guards who can’t shoot? It’s just crazy.
Along with Maggette who’s on the fast track to being the Larry Hughes of tomorrow.
I like Brandan Wright. And in the abstract I like Monta Ellis. But this is just freaking goofy. But still Sam’s gotta come up with something.
I think the omission speaks for itself
Gordon can score, but he won’t be doing it for the Chicago Bulls anymore.
If I have to factor the biggest gamble of extending Deng, extending Gordon, playing Thomas, or playing Noah, I’ll always come away thinking extending Gordon was the biggest gamble.
Sam talks about Ben’s scoring as difficult to replicate, but how difficult can it be if you’re on a roster with an atrocious defense?
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by NBA Observer on Jan 26, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
Just as difficult?
What does an atrocious defense have to do with our offense? Without BG, we’ll be a team with an atrocious defense AND an atrocious offense, which is, to say…even worse than what we are now.
Not really sure what you’re getting at here.
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Whatever.
It’s semantics, anyways. We would be mega-atrocious on offense without BG. How do ya like them apples?
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The poor defense leads to rushed offense
Gordon misses so many assignment it’s pathetic. But he rarely misses an opportunity to dribble out the shot clock and force a bad shot or just turn it over.
With Hughes on the roster the last thing I want to see is Gordon miss a few games. However, if we didn’t have Hughes I’d love to see no Gordon to see what the team produces.
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by NBA Observer on Jan 27, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
Ben was on the best defensive team in the league
He’s not the problem with the defense…look down low.
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This is just wrong
Watch Ben Gordon after the opponent puts up a shot. He’s a spectator. Just like Noc, the two of them think defense is between you and the basketball and nobody else is out there. This is rec league defense.
Box out any opposing shirt in your proximity and go get the flipping basketball. Gordon misses this assignment on a regular basis.
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by NBA Observer on Jan 27, 2009 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
Ellis can shoot
He just can’t shoot from distance.
I don’t get the enthusiasm to pair Ellis with Rose. They seem like the same player with Rose being a better passer and defender and Ellis having the superior mid range game and finishing ability. I know Ellis plays almost no defense, but excuse for the Nellie-ball effect. I do think if a coach asked him to play defense it might spook him out of his terrific offense.
The real problem would be Rose, Ellis, and Deng on the court together. You’d have almost no perimeter shooting threat.
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by NBA Observer on Jan 26, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
This team would be desperate for 3s. We’d have a rotation that features Rose, Ellis, Deng, Maggette, Thabo. They might challenge for fewest 3s made in a season since the 80s.
And if anyone thinks BG is selfish
Wait till they see Maggette play. The guy plays every game like he’s going to get a new contract.
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Jan 26, 2009 7:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
gets to the line though
Is tall enough to finish? Does he turn it over as often as Ben?
I think Maggette will look like trash playing in the Nellie ball system. He’ll be most effective in a slow half court game with a strong defense that gets him transition opportunities.
12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.
by NBA Observer on Jan 27, 2009 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
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