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Game Preview #45- Chicago Bulls v. Minnesota T'Wolves

As the Bulls embark on their final West Coast swing of the season, they seem to have reached a crossroads. At 18-26, this trip comes at a bad time as the Bulls are in desperate need of stringing a few wins together. While you'd think the first three opponents (Wolves, Clippers, Kings) would provide a bit of schedule relief, we have quickly learned this season that for this team, no win is a gimme. So the pressure is on. The good news is having their two long road trips out the way before the All-Star break means plenty of home games down the stretch to make up ground, where the Bulls remain competitive.

Speaking of pressure, this week's Gordon/Vinny spat brings to light a certain issue with this roster, and an issue that reared its ugly head last season. It seems to me, and perhaps you all will agree with me or not, that the Bulls are a team full of fragile personalities. During last Monday's game against the Knicks, they're broadcasters brought up a point: some of the vets were jealous of Derrick Rose early in the season. Jealous that a talented 20-year-old had just stolen the limelight away from them on this team. Now, I don't believe he did it on purpose since he seems to be soft-spoken and humble, and we don't know if what the Knicks' announcers are saying is true, but I wouldn't doubt it. I think last year showed that if some of these guys aren't coddled enough, they feel slighted. While he says all the right things, I think Gordon is a prime suspect, as shown by his little 'blow-up' on Vinny. His timing was interesting, though, with reporters around to witness it, almost to purposefully make Vinny look bad to gain the upper-hand. Two years ago, the Bulls were labeled as gritty and tough, and they're success was attributed to their hustle and defense. Yes, the defense was good, but i don't believe the gritty and tough part. If anything, they had the hot hand at the time and caught a Heat team heading towards a 15-win season the following year. Last season, gritty and tough went out the window. Their fragility showed. 'Oh, PaxDorf didn't give me my money.' 'Skiles was mean'. Well, perhaps it was Skiles who shouldn't have been fired, as shown my the Bucks' much-improved D. But, you can't fire all the players mid-season, so Skiles had to go. Well, the pressure is on again now as the Bulls are making the national news for the wrong reasons and the season is slowly slipping away. It is obvious that this organization needs to shed some of those 'weak' players and get ones who won't back down from the pressure and perhaps, then, we can turn some of these close losses into wins. It's no coincidence that recent Bulls teams with players like PJ Brown and Antonio Davis were more successful. These are tough vets who don't back down. If this road trip doesn't force Paxson's hand, I'm not sure anything will.

On to the game. The Timberwolves enter this game an improved team from the one we saw in Chicago a few weeks ago, and they won that game. They have won 8 of 10, have more than doubled their win total since the calendar turned, and are coming off an impressive win over the Hornets on Friday. They obviously aren't ready to contend in the West, but their team is taking shape. Al Jefferson is a 20/10 machine, Randy Foye seems to be coming into his own after showing signs his first 2 seasons, and Kevin Love is developing into quite a crafty pro. Love doesn't have eye-popping athleticism or over-powering size, but he does have a high basketball IQ and knows how to use his body and footwork to gain position in the paint and to get his shot off. He and Jefferson make for a troublesome high/low post match-up for the Bulls' bigs, especially if Gooden is unable to suit up again. The only hope is that the much improved Tyrus Thomas can neutralize Love, but its more likely Love can be added to the list of bigs that abuse the Bulls' bigs. I'm expecting at least 17/8 out of Love. I have no hope for our bigs against Jefferson except perhaps getting him in foul trouble, but Noah does not possess the offensive game to make that happen. The Bulls saving grace in this game will have to be the fast break, which they actually have been executing well recently. Get out in transition to try and neutralize the Wolves' bigs. The Wolves average only one less turnover than the Bulls, so fast break buckets will be available, but the Bulls must minimize their own mistakes. The Bulls are just about the youngest team in the league, and turnovers kill a young team, so hopefully Vinny has been driving that point into their heads. The Bulls only scored 40 points in the second half against Toronoto, and it was obvious which team played the tighter D in the 4th quarter. Hopefully the Bulls took some notes and will try to force an equally young team into some turnovers of their own. Its important for the Bulls to try and set the tone on this road trip early, because after the first 3 games, the Suns, Rockets, Hornets, and Mavs are lurking.

GAME TIME: 6pm CST

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This is going to be an ugly game

when it really shouldn’t be.

"He's not scared to take that shot," Rose said. "That's Larry. No matter what, I don't need to remind him to shoot. He's willing to shoot any time."

by Evil Pax on Jan 25, 2009 2:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i just heard on sportscenter

that vnny has apperenly disscused line up changes.
maybe the benching of gordon will come after all

Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens

by Yibs on Jan 25, 2009 2:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

...and this is when the season really goes down the shitter...

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Jan 25, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

watch

he’ll bench rose and thomas and start hinrich and ruffin

larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

by Jbasic89 on Jan 25, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

don't you dare

Vinny Del Negro: "I'm not a puppet, I'm a REEALLL Coach!"

by chibullsfan03 on Jan 25, 2009 5:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The hits keep on coming
An attorney for New York Knicks player Eddy Curry said a woman found slain in Chicago is Curry’s former girlfriend and the mother of his 3-year-old son.

Attorney Kelly Saindon said Sunday in Chicago that Curry — a former player for the Chicago Bulls — is devastated by the slayings of Nova Henry and her infant daughter.

Link

I wish I had a joke for this, but I don’t.

by NittanyCub on Jan 25, 2009 2:53 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Well there's nothing funny about someone being murdered

So, yeah.

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 25, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Two people being murdered.

I mean, i hate Curry as a basketball player as much as anybody else, but this is horrible. … Don’t even know what to say.

"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com

by Prevenge on Jan 25, 2009 5:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

uh-oh, I think the hair is starting to self destruct, he's using on the job...

"One thing I do know is teams like a lot of our pieces. That's not to say they want to give us a lot of players in return, but I know they like a lot of our pieces." - John Paxson (1/21/09)

by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 25, 2009 3:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Juicebox, you can be pretty crotchety,

and sometimes your pessimism bugs me since I try to keep upbeat regarding the Bulls. But that was the single funniest thing I’ve posted on BaB in years. I laughed so hard people in the library turned to look at me.

Awesome.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Jan 25, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you sir:)

Although I’m not sure if I should be flattered for making you laugh so hard or depressed that I come off as “crotchety”.

"One thing I do know is teams like a lot of our pieces. That's not to say they want to give us a lot of players in return, but I know they like a lot of our pieces." - John Paxson (1/21/09)

by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 25, 2009 4:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe they should lose these games

I hate to say it, but at this point I’m thinking that what’s best for this team is that they keep losing and really go down the tubes. For one thing, they would have better odds at a higher draft position. Secondly, it could prompt the organization to shake things up and make some changes (I’d like a new coach, GM, and owner – but I don’t think they’ll go that far).

by SickeyDimpkins on Jan 25, 2009 3:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Agree

100 percent unless they can get a big trade done. Pax better talk to Kerr about Amare.

by chi on Jan 25, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Would be nice

I would love to have Amare here. I think he would be a perfect fit on the Bulls. I doubt it if they could make a trade for him though. Isn’t he a free agent in 2010? Perhaps the Bulls would try to sign him.

by SickeyDimpkins on Jan 25, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah hes a free agent in 2010

But the Suns supposedly maybe willing to try him. Amare with Tyrus and Noah would make us long,fast, and athletic. A lot of alley hoops and blocks, because they all can play their own roles.

by chi on Jan 25, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They better score in 2010

The Bulls better make a splash in the free agent class of 2010! This is Chicago one of the countries major markets and the Bulls are one of the NBA’s marquee teams (well, at least they were). If they come up empty, Paxson should be fired no ifs, ands, or buts!

Unfortunately, I just don’t see the Bulls having enough to offer to get Stoudamire per trade.

by SickeyDimpkins on Jan 25, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe this could work

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=24292381245621661727615510&teams=212128441428&te=&cash= I’ve heard Steve Kerr has interest in Gordon, and Deng is player better since coming back from his injury. He would be averaging a double double, since then, if Vinny would play him in the fourth quarter.

by chi on Jan 25, 2009 3:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That would work for me!

If Pax could pull THAT off I take back everything negative I’ve ever said about him.

by SickeyDimpkins on Jan 25, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Paging Kevin Love......

Your career highs in points and rebounds await.

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 25, 2009 3:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Oh lord yes.

Thank god Corey Brewer isn’t playing. He’d be roving up and down the court like the reincarnation of Scottie Pippen.

As it is, though, I’m putting my money on Randy Foye for the career night in points.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Jan 25, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sabastian Telfair!

"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com

by Prevenge on Jan 25, 2009 5:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why don't Vinny and Pax just switch positions for a week like Freaky Friday

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 25, 2009 3:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Better idea

How about a switch with the Spurs? Vinny and Pax for Popovich and Buford.

by SickeyDimpkins on Jan 25, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I heard the announcers

say that about some on this team being jealous of Derrick. I don’t know that I believe it and any way how would they know that? The Bulls are playing pretty crappy right now so I’m sure there is lots of stuff (true or not) being said.

by sue369 on Jan 25, 2009 4:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

If you watched the games in the beginning of the season...

you should of been able to see that they were jealous. Even Kirk was a little before he got injured.

by chi on Jan 25, 2009 4:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Kirk

ever showed any jealousy. This was discussed in here by some at the beginning of the season when he didn’t start and he never showed jealousy. He was told by Vinny when Vinny came here that he would not be starting so by the time the season started he knew where he stood.

by sue369 on Jan 25, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What?!?!

Wow, that might be one of the single-most ridiculous things I’ve ever seen posted on this site. And that’s saying something.

(not just the part about Hinrich, but the part about “see[ing] they were jealous”)

hahahahahahahaha

Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!

by tyger1147 on Jan 25, 2009 4:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

How can you see jealousy?

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 26, 2009 10:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I get excited every game night

to watch Derrick Rose play, but when I start to watch the team frustrates me.

by chi on Jan 25, 2009 4:11 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

yeah

Rose is the corn on a big terd.

by FUTURE12 on Jan 25, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i second that

Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens

by Yibs on Jan 25, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Never thought I'd say this...

With Gooden not looking like he’s going to play, I sure hope Gray is able to suit up after rolling his ankle in practice. Cedric Simmons being the first big off the bench could be ugly. (Noc doesn’t count). I’m also trying to think of a starting lineup that would surprise me tonight and i’ve got nothing.

by oakdale on Jan 25, 2009 5:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Cedric played well during his 10 minutes of game time.

What’s more likely is that Nocioni will be the first big off the bench, will get torched by people faster/larger/better than him, and then we lose to the previously-stated career high from Kevin Love.

"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com

by Prevenge on Jan 25, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+1 Nice preview

Really good game to enjoy, I hope. Love v Thomas, Foye v Rose, Jefferson v oh, shit, never mind. Can’t wait to see AJ v Noc in the 4th. Repeat of my earlier trade post: Kirk and TT for Miller and Love. If we can get one of their 4 first-rounders, all the better.

by California Al on Jan 25, 2009 5:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Even after the breakup of the Championship Team

They were just easier to watch for me, this team is easily the worst team to watch since before Jordan came here.

I am not counting the 2nd half of last yr, this is basically the same era.

by SouthWestSideGus on Jan 25, 2009 5:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

At this point, there are only two players whose PER's are higher than last year.

And we all know how bad last year was. Sefolosha and Larry Hughes are the only two who have PER’s for this year than they did for last year’s team.

Not Gordon. Not Hinrich. Not Deng. Not Nocioni. Not Gooden. Not Thomas. Not Noah. Not Aaron Gray.

A few of those guys were better for a point (Gordon, Gray), a few were horrible and have been playing better lately (Deng, Thomas), but at this point, only Hughes and Sefolosha are playing more efficiently than they did last year.

Since this includes guys who had been steadily getting better (Hinrich, Gordon, Deng), I choose not to blame any of the players at this point. This team is no longer my favorite team until the organization gets its act together.

(I realize the deficiencies in PER as single statistic to evaluate a player. However, I think it’s obviously telling.)

Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!

by tyger1147 on Jan 25, 2009 5:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Alot of this is prob due to reduced playing time

Did you look into that?

(Not saying that the guys don’t suck… But after getting the 1st pick (and he’s getting alot of minutes) no wonder other players PT and PER is down)

by BAB-Bass on Jan 25, 2009 5:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

PER isn't affected by playing time.

Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!

by tyger1147 on Jan 25, 2009 7:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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Live

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www.iddaliyim.tr.gg

by milleniumprince on Jan 25, 2009 6:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

ok, that's awesomley great...

But is there one that is not in Turkish…

by BAB-Bass on Jan 25, 2009 6:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's always in Turkish

And that guy posts everywhere.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Jan 25, 2009 8:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I would rather listen to the Turkish guys,

than say the Boston announcers.

The season is lost, blow the team up.

by Granny Waiters on Jan 25, 2009 11:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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