Game Preview / Open Thread #42: Chicago Bulls at New York Knicks
by chgobr on Jan 19, 2009 9:01 AM CST
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PrintToday's Knick game is the half-way mark providing more questions/strong opinions than answers. Our lucky 1.7% turns out to be REAL lucky adding intensity on how to build around Rose. We watch the game today with many questions. Is Hinrich a key to help Rose or a key trade piece to get someone else to help Rose? Is Gordon a great fit with Rose, a great 6th man or not necessary? Can any more can be written about TT's minutes? I anticipate today's game will trigger a new nuance to the TT debate. Will Noah develop into a serviceable center? The other side of the trade debate is who do we want? Who is the piece Rose needs? Boozer, Jermaine O'Neal, David Lee, Brad Miller, etc? Do we do a salary dump hoping for 2010? There is one issue that we all agree. We just don't agree on how to do it. How do we best get rid of Larry Hughes? Sam Smith 1/ 16/2009 thinks Hughes will not be traded until next year because it provides the Bulls leverage to maximize return. Note the highly intelligent question from you know who.
Question:
Hughes, as well documented in your Ask Sam column, appears to be the primary site for the virulent cancer of selfishness spreading to other Bulls. There appears to be almost unanimity to trade Hughes to get inside help. In your Ask Sam column you make great points as to why we should be cautious before pulling the trigger for Kaman, Brad Miller, Dalembert, etc. I desperately want to rid us of the Hughes cancer. However, the more I realize the risks of these trades I wonder if it might be in the Bulls best interest to wait a year before the February 2010 trade deadline to trade Hughes. What are there advantages/disadvantages waiting until before the February 2010 to trade Hughes for some inside help? The consequences of obtaining Ben Wallace haunt this team.
Sam's answer:It is probably what will occur. The Bulls have made it clear they are not going to take on bad contracts or extra money for Hughes, which is why there isn't anything going on. I know the temptation to get someone out and behind you, but like the Knicks with Marbury, it may be best to be patient. At some point, you might be able to use Hughes' money in a deal and next season as an expiring contract with the free agent class of 2010, his contract could actually prove a big asset. So you cannot panic with that, and as many scenarios that come up, in the end I don't see Hughes being dealt this season.
The Knicks: The Knick beat writers, desperately looking for a story have migrated from Marbury to Danilo Gallinari. His 15 minutes and 6 points against Pilly two nights ago somehow make him the headline story in the New York Post, the New York Daily News and Newsday. Duhon's back is bothering him requiring him to leave the game against Philly. The New York Times confirms that the Knicks may be turning to Nate Robinson or Anthony Roberson if Duhon cannot play. The New York crowd via The NY Daily News drools at what could have been if they got Rose.
Playing in his second game after a 2-1/2 month absence due to a back injury will be the Knicks' Danilo Gallinari, a rusty, unproven talent trying to catch up to the rest of the 2008 draft class. Then there's the head of the class, the Bulls' Derrick Rose, the odds-on Rookie of the Year.
If Duhon cannot play the Knicks could really benfit from Marbury. Ooops that train has left the station as Marbury, the poster boy for selfishness, continues to negotiate his buyout.
The Game: These type of games get me nervous. The afternoon Martin Luther King Day crowd tends to be energized. The Bulls track record with games they can win only end up giving me a headache and heartburn. Rose should be able to drive to the basket against the legendary Knick defense. Even with Duhon out the Knicks thrive on being the underdog. Watch out for Nate Robinson, particularly if he gets going early. Lee has been terrific, Chandler and Al Harrington blow hot and cold. Harrington, in particular is a streaky shooter who got hot against Philly with 26 points 7-19. 7-19 is hot for Harrington.
Blogging with the enemy: New York has arguably the best coverage of their team and basketball via the competitive media with New York Post, New York Daily News, and The New York Times. There is also Knicksblogger.net. [ed. note: and P&T!]
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Let's go Bulls
Sorry for the post above.
I hate this midday games when I’m working cuz I can’t snoop here until after the day’s over…….I have this game taped though…
the best thing about mid-day games
is I can take a peak at the score now and then. Let’s hope for a better result than the New Year’s fiasco.
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
Link to game live
can anyone give me a link to this game when it comes on i really want to watch this one
ditto
im at work today, a link would be great
Vinny Del Negro: "I'm not a puppet, I'm a REEALLL Coach!"
by chibullsfan03 on Jan 19, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
Link?
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
no IE for me
homertv no work
dishtv on vacation?
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
So you think the Bulls will stand pat?
Paxson was talking a lot about trades when Hinrich got back…. what was that about?
I'm diggin Hinrich's high socks! Thats a good look for him.
Sam Smith thinks Hughes will not be traded until next year.
I believe Paxson is looking hard to make a move but as Sam said I do not believe the Bulls will take on anything that will put them over the cap or burden them long-term. The problem is that most teams seem to have that same goal which makes it hard to do a deal.
League Pass is free right now...
at least on Comcast in CO!
what's up with
my DishTV????
“Whoever” operates the “on switch” for the game took off on holiday?????
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
league pass is showing the NYC broadcast
They just interviewed Rose and said what do you need to work on the most? His response? He listed everything except for defense…
that's funny
i don’t think his D is bad as everyone here does. seen improvement in 4th Q from him, he doesn’t get calls on D end either. maybe smart not to make public a problem for the refs to screw w/ you on more?
BTW, if you’re responding to my LP not working on DISH, they did take off the sleepy background music, and it shows “CHANNEL 561 GAME IS HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES”. so i am standing by as they suggest.
LP on my computer was never recognized, and apparently you have to fax multiple documents in to them, which i haven’t done. and i don’t have IE w/ Mac for homertv feed. So we wait……
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
quick thoughts
-noah looks active,
-tyrus looks fresh and is playing smart
-deng needs to attack the basket alongside of rose more
-rose is making phenomonal passes, but hes gotta get better on defense
-gordon has been open a few times but hasnt gotten the ball, should really get him the ball more
-for some reason d’antoni is annoying me, everytime his image is flashed on screen i wanna punch him…dont know why…
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
His defense will improve
but actually I think it has since Kirk has been back. Im not sure if its kirks on court example, or if it just happened to come about at the same time, but hes workin harder on D, and trying to use his speed and quickness more
by TruEChiFaN... on Jan 19, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
stamina
defense drains alot out of you, maybe he feels he could push harder and someone with some pg talent will be able to replace him while he rests….im sure he was aware of what would happen before if he was on the bench, hughes is not a pg by any means.
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on Jan 19, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
don't analize
your feelings. just act out on them.
PUNCH THAT SCREEN D"ANTONI!!!! DO IT FOR ME, I CAN"T!!!!!!
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
Bulls gotta stop spending 8 seconds of offense
with the Noah holding the ball at the top of the key and no passing options
from the gamecast
2 shots in 1 minute from Noc
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
Those Noc shots are in the offense
Ben’s shot was terrible tho. Overall game looks real ugly atm.
is this not one of the most idiotic comments i've ever read?
Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!
sorry, but
That was the most idiotic decision I’ve ever seen.
Why would you not take an open shot with time expiring? That’s just dumb…or selfish.
Remember the goal is to score points.
no it's not
it’s ball movement. :)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 19, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
Gooden
not good on the block…even noah, our most inept post player, wouldve dunked that ball.
Hinrich now has an idea of what rose plays like, such great passes, and yet no finish.
Personal note: i like watching rose and hinrich sharing pg duties at the same time, the offense is a lot faster and smoother.
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
one thing
i don’t need to see for myself today, lol!
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
i think they are trying
to go big enough to defend the post, but have a person who can hit a 3….obviously noch is doing neither…..
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on Jan 19, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
thabo for noch
thabo is doing a decent job defending and at the very least isnt forcing his offense.
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
by piccolomair on Jan 19, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
oh hinrich
what the hell were you doing!! was he so happy he made that jumper that he forgot about the game?? (hinrich in his head “man im like bg today”) and gallinari gets the easy shot…..DAMN IT BAD PLAY!!!
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
Nice D by Rose letting Nate Robinson run right by him.
Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!
Yeah, the post up by Nocioni was in the flow of the offense alright.
Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!
Late night in NYC followed by an early afternoon game?
by Diz on Jan 19, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
bingo
it’s a battle of hangover remedies, basically.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 19, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
OMG, that's hilarious! Neil Funk's grandson wearing a BG jersey!
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 19, 2009 12:54 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
that IS awesome.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 19, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
Linup i wanna see for the remainder of this quarter
Rose
Gordon
Hinrich (i know 3 guard lineup)
Deng
Tyrus
The only players that i want subbed in are Thabo and noah
reason: the five (in the lineup) can hit midrange shots and at the same time take it to the rim (with the exception of hinrich) hinrich and rose move the ball phenomonally, and gordon is itching to light up the garden…(or maybe i just wanna see him do it). Deng is big enough to guard ny’s 4s, is strong enough to go inside and maybe might hit a jumper, tyrus is athletic enough to alter shots, and finish shots, plus al harington needs to be stopped somehow.
Thabo is long enough to defend, and can get some shots and at least doesnt force offense. Noah was playing pretty damn good before he was pulled.
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
You can do that against the Knicks
Derrick Rose will lead us back to the promise land.
In Vinny We Trust!
yea
they arent the greatest defensively, but they force the ball to move quickly from end to end (defense to offense) so going small helps at least keep up with them. Thats why a guy like tyrus or deng should be fine playing up one position because they are as big as some of the knicks guys, and can run the floor.
Its why lebron is so good against this team, because he is as big as thier biggest guys, and as fast as their guards..
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
Come on Bulls, cut the crap trying to run with the Knicks
Derrick Rose will lead us back to the promise land.
In Vinny We Trust!
Stacey's right that we can come back b/c its the Knicks but we can't go down huge
Derrick Rose will lead us back to the promise land.
In Vinny We Trust!
Alright back to 7, cut this to 4
Derrick Rose will lead us back to the promise land.
In Vinny We Trust!
But his shot looks good tonight
Minus that last one.
Seriously, it's common knowledge that
Noce is either on or off. Today he’s off. Let’s sit him down, please.
i'm not watching the game
stranded at work. but he has 6reb and 3blk for a team that desperately needs rebounds and defense. He is doing the things we drafted him to do.
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 19, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
Ok VDN couple things:
1) Noce is useless today, take him out and don’t put him back in unless we’re up by 20+
2) I know you want the guys to run and play in transition but don’t let them fall into D’Antoni’s SSOL because that’s exactly what the Knicks want teams to do.
3) Thabo needs to play more in the 2nd half
4) For the love of god do not ever play Noce @ the 5 ever again
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
So can I
assume (from the game thread comments) that we’re down twenty?
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
Yeah, lol.
It’s close.
But we SHOULD be blowing this team out! They’re the knicks…
The Knicks are an atrocious teams
with almost no talent :-] yay
Looks like dish
woke up for the second half…..I’l get to see for myself!!!!
But yeah, I was SURPRISED that Noc has only 11:15 and Gooden less than 6:00, LOL!
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
Neil Funk
“I thought Joakim and Tyrus did a nice job.” wwhhhhoooaaa!
But he always plays well in his hometown!
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Jan 19, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
And by hometown, I mean the town he grew up in, London doesn't count
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Jan 19, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
just tuned in(im at work lol)
deng’s been hittin shots the last few possessions…good to see
Vinny Del Negro: "I'm not a puppet, I'm a REEALLL Coach!"
De-rec that thought
are you serious?
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Jan 19, 2009 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
Rebounding looks good
but Rose doesn’t seem to be quarterbacking the team well this Q. Poor Transition lets QRich go off.
Why can’t we get easy baskets in the paint against this team? I can’t believe I’m waiting to see Hinrich hit the floor!
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
That's the way to play!
NY barely has the talent to SSOL. No one cried when Q left here, his % wasn’t that good and he NEVER posted up.
Play these guys fast, just be sure to get back on D. If somebody looks tired, sub for ’em!
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
Seriously Noce is back in?
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
Insert
Derrick & Thabo. Remove BG/Noce. Kthanks!
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
Hinrich is calling out duhon
he is scorching nate just so d’antoni puts his best defender, duhon, on kirk…..kirk misses killing duhon in practice…. :)
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
if Tyrus
doesn’t see the 4th qtr, I’m done…ok maybe not done but not happy
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
best big man so far in the game
is tyrus (though noah has played well at least on the glass)
im saying the lineup i wanna see is
rose
gordon
hinrich
deng
tyrus
or because bg is missing
rose
hinrich
deng
tyrus
noah
damn…..why cant this happen?
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
I can't watch gm
but it looks like he’s having a decent gm
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
Had to call TO
when half the team (Noc and Gooden) fell asleep. Then vinnie draws up that?
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
Deng and Kirk are hell back!!
Now trade Gooden and Noce and we have a competitive team!!
What happened to the Toronoto trade rumours??
TT and Noah
looked good from the 3rd Q I saw.
Will I see Thabo at all? Noc just made it: 1 of 7!
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
Okay I don't know hot to ask this without sounding like a jerk but its driving me crazy
Does anyone else think Danilo Galinari looks retarded?
That made me laugh!
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
This is just like every game in the 4thwhere Noce plays, and the other offense socres and wins the game
by getting easy baskets. This is where TT and Noah should play
Naw,
ya think?
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
it is so classic it's not funny anymore.... and then VDN will fold his arms and talk about matchups and injuries...
Remember Michael Ruffin is still unhealthy and he might “bring some athleticism”
well
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
What??
How is that foul on Noah?
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
Tyrus in the game
but for Deng???oooh VDN you make me smile
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
Hey at least
Noce didn’t foul Robinson on the breakaway…
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
What's VDN's love for Noce about??
I mean it’s getting out of hand.
Noc will play entire 4th
this time for Deng…
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
kirk finds TT better than
derrick i think but hopefully that’ll change.
derrick is a scoring pg
doesnt have amazing vision…thats why hinrich fits in next to him.
by rosefromconcrete on Jan 19, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
lets keep playing nocioni instead of deng
dengs only been our best player tonight and has the 72 million dollar contract
by rosefromconcrete on Jan 19, 2009 2:02 PM CST reply actions
isiah isnt in ny anymore
you cant hope noc has a good game in order to get a 1st round pick out of the deal
by rosefromconcrete on Jan 19, 2009 2:03 PM CST reply actions
I understand giving Deng a quick rest
but why not put Thabo in there?
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
Rose!@
Coulda had a few more by now had he not been on the bench…
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
i dont know why people defend noc
he is terrible.
by rosefromconcrete on Jan 19, 2009 2:05 PM CST reply actions
Great time to take Noce out
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
We're gonna find out
how good he is when we throw him in a trade to match salaries and he becomes the next Joe Johnson.
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Jan 19, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
uh, I don't think you realize what Joe Johnson was doing when he was Thabo's age.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 19, 2009 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
Still,
hyperbole appreciated.
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
Noah and TT
doing it. Now if Noc doesn’t keep killing us…..
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
I don't have a problem playing Noc when he's ON
But today he’s OFF. He’s 1-9 for god sakes. He needs to come out of the game
WTF
did the link on HomerTV go out for anyone else?
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
Two thoughts...
(1) TT may never be a perennial all-star, but those who want to trade him “immediately” are mentally challenged. He has played well over the last six weeks. Any Bulls fans who don’t acknowledge his improvement have a pre-existing agenda;
(2) I would like Rose to be a bit more consistent and aggressive. He has been erratic over the last month. I wonder if fatigue is beginning to affect him.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
"a pre-existing agenda"
or a pre-existing condition.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 19, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
The problem is people still want him to live up to his draft position.
Where he was drafted means nothing at this point. It’s about whether he can be a good starting contributor or not.
by BoxingHideout on Jan 19, 2009 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
HAHA
nice pose there Danilo
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
tyrus is owning today
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What in God's name prompted this comment?
He’s a moron because he overran a steal? Jesus.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
I love Noah he's a beast on the boards
but keep in mind it is the Knicks and they take a shitload of shots
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
Wasn't that a two, not a three?
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
vinny finally letting tyrus play the 4th...
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
oh yeah
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I fear for the line-up coming out of this TO..
Gooden, BG… Boooooo
Keep the guys who are in!
why is Ben on the bench in crunch time?
by fundamentallysound on Jan 19, 2009 2:18 PM CST reply actions
3-14
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
motherfuck
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
thank god q is an ego maniac...
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and his mom:-)
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
TYRUS SO CLOSEW
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not to start any arguments but wouldn't it had been nice if Pax kept Duhon and that maybe
would’ve made a trade of Hinrich
no duhon is a homo
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
TIME FOR CLUTCH LARRY
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
why would they do that
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Chris Duhon should never be allowed to beat the Bulls.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
No foul on TT there?
He never gets any calls I swear it’s a conspiracy.
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
he got
an offensive called on a pretty spin move/dish when Duhon wasn’t set, lol!
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man Tyrus should have kicked that out and restarted the offense and milked some clock
by fundamentallysound on Jan 19, 2009 2:21 PM CST reply actions
or slammed it
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he was too far away to dunk it and even if he does, it's a 1 possession game with plenty of time
the smarter play was to milk the clock and get a good shot
by fundamentallysound on Jan 19, 2009 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
(jumping in after not watching the game)
well, good to see that the Bulls are now actively kicking Ben Gordon out the door, as opposed to passive-aggressively. Progress!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 19, 2009 2:21 PM CST reply actions
Normally I would agree, but he's been horrid
by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 19, 2009 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
so what, is he the team's 2-guard or not?
it’s been happening nearly every game since Hinrich returned. Gordon is not coming back to be benched in the 4th quarter. If they don’t want him back why didn’t they trade him.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 19, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions
perhaps they tried
but no one wanted to pay BG his $$$ either?
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
maybe not
but don’t even offer him $48m then, unless we’re still under the Noc plan for paying bench players.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 19, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
Such a stoopid 3 by Kirk.
Ur up by one. run the clock down!
I always wondered how Duhon vs Hinrich would look against each other in practice
Finally get to see it
Not good shot
too much time on the clock, the deficit was 1(!!!!) it was very lary hughes-esque….didnt like it one bit….
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yea it was terrible
thats what i was trying to say
soka
my bad… :)
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Good shot in transition when we had numbers
proven out by TT’s reb…
This team has to rebound and defend. (And then PUSH). The plays that really killed were TT almost picking up the ball after Noah/Hinrich stopped NY s/r (not easy to do). Lee gets it instead and flips to QRich, who’d never moved from his 3-spot. Then Kirk’s missed FT (they happen) and he and Noah unable to stop Du on the baseline (when NY quick-shot the shot clock).
The quick shots are usually much better looks than set plays at the end. If Q doen’t get the lucky bounce for his three, we’d have been up and sitting pretty.
BG’s “contract shot” was probably just him forcing it, trying to be the hero. Interestingly, YES apparently had to reach back to ‘05 for the BG game – winner – at – the – Garden highlight. But it was a very low % shot when it seemed he had Lee beat if he penetrates and would’ve had a 2 on 1 with TT at the hoop….
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
Chris Duhon
will haunt this team forever. Fucking Chris Duhon. God I hate him.
WHY WOULD YOU PULL UP LIKE THAT KIRK
WHY WOULD YOU NOT GET THE BALL BACK OUT AFTER THE REBOUND TYRUS!!!
DAMN!!!!
Wow nice time for Homertv.net to freeze
whats goin on??
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
that is ridiculous
how was there no foul called there
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
nice shot gordon
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
well I'm happy he's in
(not watching)
I have to bail now before I see the score :)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 19, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
this team is a few seflish players being traded
from being decent…. ( Noc and Gordon)
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You know what? If Goron made one of the last plays by Rose or Hinrich we would be killing him.
So don’t light him up for trying to make a play!
no
hinrich shouldnt have taken the shot, but at least he was WIDE OPEN…that was ridiculous by ben
by rosefromconcrete on Jan 19, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
he shouldnt have...it was a bad shot
but he was wide open and ben took a TERRIBLE shot
by rosefromconcrete on Jan 19, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions
im pretty sure if BG was int he same spot as kirk that wide open, he'd have shot it too.
Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens
What a crap way to loose
I blame Gordon and the refs.
Dammit
they had time to go for a quick 2. Wtf.
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
and BG loses the game for us...
Thanks BG!
U fcker!
usually hes lights out here at the garden
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
With David Lee right in his face though?
At least drive around him there…
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Jan 19, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
it had nothing to do with the miss free throw from Kirk
or the missed 3 pter he took. It was all BG’s fault. Riiight
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 19, 2009 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
Well, that post was mostly areaction
to last games raection Noc got after his 17-15 preformance where he hit 3 FT’s to get the game within 3 and then everyone jumps on him when he fouls Ginobili.
But blaming this on BG is more valid. That shot was just BS. A contract shot like someone posted below.
For the record I called Kirk out on themissed Ft and too early 3pt, too….
Kirk hinrich takes an unnecessary shot 4 seconds into the shot clock with 30 seconds in the game.
Tyrus misses a point blank put back.
VDN sets a play where Bg is the only option. They were down three and the knicks knew they were shooting a 3.
Kirk missed a free throw.
Derrick, Tyrus, Deng, Kirk, Noah...
The rest of this team can just fuck off.
We win this game if Noce plays less than 10 minutes. Oh and Gooden should also be tattooed to the bench. And just leave BG. If you can’t shoot better than 30 percent, just get the hell out of town.
I hate this team.
nocioni sucks too
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The last two games have been infuriating.
We blew this game and the game against San Antonio.
We should have won both.
Fucking terrible.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
Come on guys that was the right idea.
Ben is the best three point shooter on the team, and we needed a three. Just didn’t work.
he took a 30 ft fadeaway with a guy in his face...
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
haha
that image made me chuckle :)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 19, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
We needed a better play thats a situation I don't blame anyone too much with Vinny being a rookie
but what led up to it was pretty bad
If he was shooting well
But he wasn’t. Rose was the one who should have the ball, drive and try to get a foul
i really hate the knicks more than any other team
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Just when I thought
We might start playing better…We drop 2 in a row. Fuck this team.
Paxson needs to just get rid of gordon and noc asap
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
post-game thread is up
I wound up seeing the score anyway. Damnit.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 19, 2009 2:29 PM CST reply actions
I don't understand why the Bulls were trying to beat the Knicks at their own game
and take quick shot after quick shot when the tempo was in the Knicks favor
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And Duhon is the player of the game...
on the YES network.
Insult to injury.
ughh
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm officially through thinking this team is gonna do shit
I GUARANTEE we’re in the lottery this year. There is ZERO chance we make thae playoffs.
i dont know they have been playing much better lately
mostly due to hinrich and deng coming back and noah and thomas starting to get the minutes they should
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
not just hinrich
but deng noah and thomas have been playing a hellava lot better. Deng and tyrus especially (ty looks like a pf, he actually looks like an nba pf out there!!!!! DAMN!!!). Its just bad luck that gordon and gooden started to play bad, especially gordon sense his 20pts per game really help.
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true
but they have played better. Im not sure about playoffs. The chemistry on this team is awful and VDN is terrible. We still dont run an offense….although Deng has been more active. Deng is an essential part of our offense and even when he plays well it seems vdn has no idea how to utilize his skill sets.
by rosefromconcrete on Jan 19, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
There are parts in a game
where it looks like most of the players don’t know how to take advantage of a situation. Like if we have a chance for a lead don’t take a quick shot or a chance to put a dagger in.
Its pretty tough to watch.
agreed
man that shot by hinrich, for a guy who is considered the smartest b-baller on this team (at least by me) man that shot was bad…..god there was so much fundamentally wrong with shot….the free throw hurt, but that shot was something that just couldve been avoided.
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Yeah I was surprised that Hinrich was the one to do it
He probably is the smartest he isn’t the fastest doesn’t jump the highest or have amazing scoring ability. But manages to be one of the best perimeter defenders in the league and can run a team. But that play made me cringe
But I was hoping Tyrus was going to give it to Rose to drive then see more possibilities we’d have. (but it looked like Rose told Tyrus to give it to Kirk and might of been a reason why Kirk took it too)
Also I wish Rose would just take the game in those moments. Get the ball drive; and Vinny still seems a bit reluctant to put in a group that leans more to defense….even agianst the not so coordinated Knicks defense.
wat happened to deng? he was gone in the 4th once again.
sure vinny did screw it by keeping drew and noch in. but towards the end, deng was non existent
Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens
THABo
he can at least defend…
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its tough for deng at the end of games
our guards dominate the ball and look to score and deng just chills in the corner
by rosefromconcrete on Jan 19, 2009 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
Deng had a double double
Before the 2nd half. Vinny is the damn problem. Inconsistent rotations. I used to get on Deng too, but he is improving, and he is damn good to be 23(when you think about it). If I would have known his age before, I would have cut him some slack. In no way can you blame this game on him.
Deng has shown that he
can play. it’s just that he keeps getting hurt and then mails in a bunch of games. But your right, he is still young.
trust me im not blamin luol for anything
it is up to vinny to let the guys know to feed the hot hands. and luol was amazing today, but they didnt even look at his direction towards the end
Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens
he took a HORRIBLE shot
it was selfish and epitimizes what is wrong with his game
by rosefromconcrete on Jan 19, 2009 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
Lol
Please stop trying to defend him. All he did was take a shot… The ball should have been in Rose hand to get someone an open shot or for him to drive to the cup and maybe get fouled. Ben took a bad shot trying to do too much, like we’ve seen time after time. Two points and a quick foul would have worked out a lot better.
we needed a 3
i wouldve gone for the 3, i didnt mind that gordon took the shot, i wish there was more effort to get him that shot, a screen…..i think he wouldve hit it….honestly…and im a hinrich fan.
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um ok... it really doesn't help
saying you’re a Hinrich fan. lol. We needed a 3 but it wasn’t a good shot at all.
heh
i just didnt want to come off as a ben gordon apologist or something
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I understand
I, like everybody else on this site just hope something is done quick to improve this team.
This type of controversy comes up in nearly all close games.
If a team is down by 3 down the stretch and a player misses the 3-pointer, then he should have taken the ball to the basket. If he takes the ball to the basket and misses, then he should have taken the 3 instead. =/
by RunningRay1987 on Jan 19, 2009 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
U don't take a fade-away contested 3pt shot
with a guy who’s 9 feet tall in your face.
Predictable result. Air-ball
one bright spot
was the way Tyrus is finishing around the rim. I couldn’t believe my eyes when he managed to control his body AND the ball as he went in for a couple of layups.
I’ve never seen him finish like that before. This is skill. Sure he still makes dumb decisions but it seems as though he’s actually IMPROVING!
Noah’s rebounding tonight I’ll take more because of his father’s presence and the knicks defense. But still a lot better then Nocioni. What the hell happened to him since the playoffs 2 years ago?
I can’t help being so positive right now. Tyrus showed improvement! Tyrus showed Improvement?
That being said, I am in full tank this season mode, give Rose Tyrus Deng Noah and Thabo minutes and go for a high draft pick next year/big trade for a center and a shooting guard (I now believe Thabo’s best position is backing up Deng).
One more thought on Thabo
if he can defend a two, he is even faster against most three’s. I don’t know the stat difference for when he’s in the game playing the three, but I’ve seen him poke the ball away a few times this year. And given his size and speed, he makes for a better team defender when the bulls have to switch up against other guards.
Tyrus is looking good
his iq has shot up tremendously. His rookie year i called him an idiot, i believe he was one at the time, now, he gets it….he just needs to hone it
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+1
although i think he’s always gonna be a bit “Josh” (Howard and Smith) on court sometimes. as long as it’s not off court, i’m fine with that.
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
to become an all star or superstar
it takes alot, and i dont know if tyrus can ever be that, but yea…i see him being a starting pf. Man his defense, im loving it (unlike mcdonalds, which i dont like) he uses his jumping ability and just alters everything. There was a shot in the second quarter i believe, q rich did a pump fake, ty jumped straight into the air, q. rich waited for tyrus to come back down so he can take a shot, but ty took way too long up there so q rich took a bad shot. then theres his control on layups now, or how about trying to finish strong, and that spin move into a dunk in the 3rd….damn!
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
also, it would really help
if he could learn the pick and roll.
"As a basketball player gordon is a useless as tits on a a whore" - BigWay (Dec 2, 2008). BigWank, I'll miss you more than all the others. This song is for you, my brother!
That's called "playing your best players",
but “tank mode”. We’re in tank mode right now, minus Larry Hughes.
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
Ben Gordon is injured.
At least that is what it says on an injury note on my fantasy basketball team. He has an injured left groin and sore right ankle. Gordon struggled last season during the stretch that he was hurt, and it was around this same time last season.
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