You know you loved the teen wolf look.

Could be because I have almost the same hair-style.. ;)

You North Americans will just never understand hair.. :P

I know it can’t work against every team, but thought it was great with the ball movement of Hinrich-Rose-Gordon and the ball movement was better actually (given an off Gordon night) with Hinrich-Rose-Thabo.

Hinrich’s crappy inbounds pass…was the result of an even crappier VDN inbounds “play”

You forgot to mention the throw the ball away with 4 seconds left and a two point lead.

What was funny was because right then and there I was thinking "God I’m so glad it’s HInrich throwing this in and not Chris Duhon—remembering that Kings game last year where Chris was just like—here take this from me and score a layup)….

I don’t know what happened on that play….

Though to be fair overall I thought Kirk did a good job, esp on the 2nd day back.

Been pretty consistent. That’s the case with many SG’s. I mean look at the Blazers game, Roy was missing his shots that night……and I think they played better when they didn’t focus on him. That’s a rarity for ROy, but it happened.

I like Kirk, and I do think a role player in the 2 guard spot would be great for us considering our needs down low.

I need to see Kirk a bit more at the real 2 before I say he’s better for this team…..

I do think BG’s better for this team as constructed, but if we get a low post threat who can also defend ont he other hand, Hinrich’s ability to pass and defend might make him a solid combo 2….and I’m a sucker for the 2 pg attack if we have the players to support it (right now we don’t).

improvement is how he consistently moves to keep his man in front of him. And though he’s made a few plays (surprising blocks/steals) his help D is as bad as everyone else’s, and I don’t see him fight through screens, like ever.

They have a long way to go on D this year.

That might have been his BEST GAME int he 4th, he looked like the former rookie 6th man of the year award winner Ben Gordon in the 4th (and played a solid rookie game in quarters 1-3 giving him most of those 10 assists).

Actually some of those plays really were WOW plays, I kept rewinding the DVR and watching and rewatching. THat last play were Rose flew into the lane picking holes in like 4 defenders of the Raps (including Bosh on the weak side) was stunning. You could see Bosh’s facial expression was essentially saying “wow” too and that is one of the true superstars in the league.

If Rose can keep doing those things, he can be more than Wade on offense. He’s quicker, he’s more crafty with the shot vs dunk, and he’s a better ball handler…..that was a stunning 4th quarter display.

I’ll take the anecdotal evidence.
Also, he got blocked by the rim. :P That’s never good.

Though was just hitting some incredible shots. He looked like the overall #1 last night.

Deng was covering him quite a bit, there were moments where the Raps forced those screens that Deng couldn’t recover from (like you guys are always on Noc about)….

That’s because other coaches can see that the Bulls are a horrid team defense – defensive team. I think our man to man is for the most part ok, but we have lost all the team defense principles that we had under Skiles (or it might have been we never had them, but under Skiles we stayed on the man in the outside regardless and just tried to funnel them into the paint so that Brown, Chandler and Wallace could clean up). Without those cleanup guys (who we may get if VDN kept playing Tyrus and Noah) our guys have to learn defensive switches.

I think if anything the defense has to get “more complicated” for this bunch, because right now we don’t seem to have any real defensive strategies other than, cover your man one on one throw screens, no switching folks ever, give up easy layups when they force screens….unless we have Tyrus and Noah out there who’s natural D tendencies can win out at times despite the defensive coaching….

Harris and Bickerstaff should know better to tell VDN how to help with the D side.

I did think the motion was solid for good chunks of the game, and when guys were passing, it seemed Vinny’s offense was working….problem is we’d pass for 6-8 minute stretches then get bogged down in the one on one style.

Rose corrected that style by saying screw it, you guys we’er winning when we pass, but when we play the one on one we lose, so after we started the one on one in the 4th again, Rose was like “I have to win this one for us” and he finally took over.

I hope he stays aggressive….he’s a superstar already if he does—even with the D deficiencies, and I thought at times his D was on pat tonight (though I guess Calderon was hurt)…

I know you’re not talking to me here, but I’m flip flopping quite a bit.

Problem is I like this bunch, we’ve followed Kirk, Ben, Luol, Noc for a while and 2 years ago we were really good with them…..

Kirk’s a main guy that turned the franchise around when he came in, and had 1 awful year and then got hurt this year before he could redeem himself.

Ben and Lu have always been professionals, and it’s always been a concern because they aren’t superstars but are good enough for the $10-12M a year if we can keep them.

Noc plays really hard, but is now on too big a contract…

It’s hard. I’d like these guys to stay and see Tyrus and Noah and of course Rose blossom….but I’m losing patience so I want to blow it up…..too.