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This game is abysmal

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Jan 12, 2009 9:17 PM CST reply actions  

Blazer fan here

You have a lot of talented players… lacking court chemistry and direction.

when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.

by Net Ranger on Jan 12, 2009 10:21 PM CST up reply actions  

really?

when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.

by Net Ranger on Jan 12, 2009 10:26 PM CST up reply actions  

good idea

post a animated gif to slow the page down!

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 10:27 PM CST up reply actions  

this team has quit

on 3 coaches in 2 years, fun times to be a bulls fan

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 9:17 PM CST reply actions  

He had pretty much stopped coaching at the end too

Unless insulting your players in the press is considered coaching.

Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0

because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger

by Big D on Jan 12, 2009 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

suit Patrick Kane up

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 9:18 PM CST reply actions  

Because we have no semblance of an offensive system

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Jan 12, 2009 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

that's our scheme

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

he doesn't even touch the ball lately

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 9:21 PM CST up reply actions  

"Gooden, who's played well tonight.."

Neil funk is either blind, or a certified retard

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 9:21 PM CST reply actions  

LOL

Funk: “Drew Gooden whose played well tonight…”

by reprisal on Jan 12, 2009 9:21 PM CST reply actions  

sounds

like a “NOT” joke…

by thebullsbeat on Jan 12, 2009 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice D on Outlaw, Lu

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Jan 12, 2009 9:22 PM CST reply actions  

man

this team is just dumb, either help or dont, but dont stand in the middle

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 9:22 PM CST reply actions  

Rose just got abused by Bayless

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Jan 12, 2009 9:23 PM CST reply actions  

So the award for Mr. Career High night for tonight’s game is TRAVIS OUTLAW. Congratulations Travis!

by Dils on Jan 12, 2009 9:25 PM CST reply actions  

His career high for points is 22

dont know about rebounds

"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 12, 2009 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

statistically its probobly his 3rd best

He had a 22/10 and a 15/15… but this is probobly his best overall.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jan 12, 2009 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

22 is his high, i think?

he is 15 and 13 right now

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

who woulda thunk it?

usually its a post player

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

his career high is 36

but that was on the last day of the season when the 32 win Blazers (2 years ago) where getting obliterated by Golden State.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jan 12, 2009 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

i can't believe

Pax thought the VDN experiment would work

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 9:25 PM CST reply actions  

Is it time to bring back Boy*#n?

VDN has our only legitimate defender on the bench. Thabo was too effective to get back on the floor. Tyrus has been completely shut out of our so-called offensive sets. Rose keeps getting burned, but I still love him. If Luol continues to play so poorly, we will have to start calling him _eng.

What would a real coach do with this mess?

If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard

by Tyrusmancrush on Jan 12, 2009 9:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Is this a recording?

Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0

because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger

by Big D on Jan 12, 2009 9:27 PM CST up reply actions  

bad tyrus impersonation luol

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 9:28 PM CST reply actions  

man VDN love Gooden

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 9:29 PM CST reply actions  

Well it was nice seeing you Tyrus and Thabo! Go ahead and get dressed, have a good evening.

by Dils on Jan 12, 2009 9:30 PM CST reply actions  

I can't believe thats all we see of Thabo

he actually looked food

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

mmmm i like food

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 10:29 PM CST up reply actions  

depends on the food.

I like food that have a lot of ingredients that complement one another.

by PatBull on Jan 12, 2009 10:32 PM CST up reply actions  

corndog with 2 sticks

when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.

by Net Ranger on Jan 12, 2009 10:35 PM CST up reply actions  

lol

i just saw that!

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 10:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Noce and Gooden= more offensive rebounds for them

dammit

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 9:30 PM CST reply actions  

Anybody who thinks Rose is an elite PG this year

Please explain Rose getting torched by Blake and Bayless

by YaoPau on Jan 12, 2009 9:30 PM CST reply actions  

and don't forget Augustin of the Bobcats.

And the other PG’s who torched him in games past.

by PatBull on Jan 12, 2009 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

We should just trade him

that way we don’t have to hear the bitching everytime he doesn’t play like Kobe

by gobulls1124 on Jan 12, 2009 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

um, no shit?

wtf are you trying to say?

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Jan 12, 2009 9:35 PM CST up reply actions  

holy shit they called a foul for Derrick!

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 9:31 PM CST reply actions  

god dammit catch the ball

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 9:31 PM CST reply actions  

Gooden is the poster child for a stat guy who team loses. He’s a poor man’s Elton Brand

by Dils on Jan 12, 2009 9:32 PM CST reply actions  

has he even stood up this gm??

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 9:32 PM CST reply actions  

VDN

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

they are taking jumpers

take it to them now

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 9:32 PM CST reply actions  

Looked like Bayless flopped

But no rookie is gonna get that call

"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 12, 2009 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

that was a bulldozer

should of been a charge

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 9:34 PM CST up reply actions  

thabo please

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 9:33 PM CST reply actions  

Why is TT not playing?

They’re going small. So, lets try to take advantage on the paint

by bull83 on Jan 12, 2009 9:33 PM CST reply actions  

Vinny has basically been subbing him in/out

only when Aldrige is in

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 9:34 PM CST up reply actions  

he is playing the "matchups"

why not play to our strengths once in a while

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 9:35 PM CST up reply actions  

gordon playing like crap today

Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens

by Yibs on Jan 12, 2009 9:34 PM CST reply actions  

vdn has to play the veterans in the 4th

it doesnt matter that tyrus got oden in foul trouble

by rosefromconcrete on Jan 12, 2009 9:34 PM CST reply actions  

by the way

stacey should know that roys game is completely different than wade’s

by rosefromconcrete on Jan 12, 2009 9:35 PM CST reply actions  

BG! :)

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 9:36 PM CST up reply actions  

derrick getting aggressive?

more please

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 9:37 PM CST reply actions  

Love the aggression from Derrick

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Jan 12, 2009 9:37 PM CST reply actions  

I just don’t see how the kids can grow (TT and Thabo)and play with Rose when they don’t play.

by Dils on Jan 12, 2009 9:37 PM CST reply actions  

the Bulls are only down 6

but i dont even care anymore

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 9:37 PM CST reply actions  

ok... we really need to stop giving up so many threes

we give up a ton of layups and threes, the two highest reward shots in the game. ugh.

by fundamentallysound on Jan 12, 2009 9:39 PM CST reply actions  

we allow too much dribble penetration and dont play good help d

a recipe for disaster…however, we dont play thabo, tyrus or noah in the 4th…our 3 best defenders until kirk gets in game shape

by rosefromconcrete on Jan 12, 2009 9:41 PM CST up reply actions  

please put thabo for BG

Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens

by Yibs on Jan 12, 2009 9:39 PM CST reply actions  

Vinny is the classic example of a cluesless, stubborn loser.

He is no better than B%$l#An. At least the former retard actually got to sit next to Skiles long enough to learn something. Vinny makes me sick. Tyrus, Thabo rot on the bench as the Bulls once again, have a complete 4th quarter collapse with their veteran non-defending, non-rebounding veterans.

FIRE DEL NITWIT AND GET A REAL COACH.

If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard

by Tyrusmancrush on Jan 12, 2009 9:43 PM CST up reply actions  

i agree

the one area they are much better is interior defense…and roy is a beast…but i think the talent level is close

by rosefromconcrete on Jan 12, 2009 9:42 PM CST up reply actions  

oh come on

we are way more talented than you guys. and believe me you guys want it that way… otherwise being compared to us would make you guys even look worse than you already do. remember: blazers = western conference = 23-14.

our talent almost totally exceeds the bulls talent. just take a look down our roster and get a clue.

Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

by aryamehr on Jan 12, 2009 10:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Can you please not troll

it’s been a good night, both fanbases getting along. Please do not post inflammatory comments.

thanks.

by Cablinasian on Jan 12, 2009 10:24 PM CST up reply actions  

im not trolling...

im telling the truth. i feel bad now though.

sorry boys, if ive offended anyone. im all for peace among fanbases!

Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

by aryamehr on Jan 12, 2009 10:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Rose drive and 4 Bulls watch

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 9:39 PM CST reply actions  

over

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 9:40 PM CST reply actions  

and thats the end of that chapter

Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens

by Yibs on Jan 12, 2009 9:40 PM CST reply actions  

Wow, Rose keeps getting abused by Steve Blake

this is sad

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Jan 12, 2009 9:41 PM CST reply actions  

This is coaching 101. If there is someone in the paint to stop the threat of somone scoring then they can’t drive and kick. That’s where a shot blocker like Thomas comes in

by Dils on Jan 12, 2009 9:41 PM CST reply actions  

Hughes only has

7 minutes tonight I’m sure we’ll see him yet.

by sue369 on Jan 12, 2009 9:41 PM CST reply actions  

yeah, I bet he comes in very soon

for no reason at all

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Jan 12, 2009 9:42 PM CST up reply actions  

thank god for kirk

Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens

by Yibs on Jan 12, 2009 9:42 PM CST up reply actions  

de ja vu

Chicago... Where giving up career nights happens

by Yibs on Jan 12, 2009 9:42 PM CST up reply actions  

recced

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Jan 12, 2009 9:43 PM CST up reply actions  

can we fit 12 men on the floor

at the same time?

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 9:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Tim Duncan

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 9:45 PM CST up reply actions  

he missed 10 days with a injury

this is his second game back.

"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 12, 2009 9:47 PM CST up reply actions  

woops thought you were referring to Rose.

and Roy is exciting… did you see some of his last minute bombs this season? He’s been clutch and he drives as well as anyone. He’s just having a bad game.

by fundamentallysound on Jan 12, 2009 9:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Boring? no way

Not flashy yes…but his drives are amazing.

"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 12, 2009 9:46 PM CST up reply actions  

oh give me a break

roy’s easily top ten in the league and hes a total monster.

Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

by aryamehr on Jan 12, 2009 10:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Word definitions:

“Not flashy”
does not equal
“sucks”

"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com

by Prevenge on Jan 12, 2009 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

VDN has sat all gm

what coaching has he done?

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 9:45 PM CST reply actions  

3 guards!

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 9:46 PM CST reply actions  

Relax guys

I think Noc and Gooden can bring us back even and another overtime results.

by T2fan on Jan 12, 2009 9:46 PM CST reply actions  

So, Deng never plays the 4th quarter

and today played 7 minutes… Can someone explain to me what is going on Vinnys head?

by bull83 on Jan 12, 2009 9:47 PM CST reply actions  

Noc is -16 tonight dudes

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Jan 12, 2009 9:48 PM CST reply actions  

My god he sucks!

Even though he’s got 7 pts, goes 1-5 (with a desperation 3pointer at the end of the third which shouldn’t count), 4 rebounds, 2 assist, a block and drew 2 charges, his -16 proves he sucks the most!

by PatBull on Jan 12, 2009 9:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Except he wasn't the main man guarding Outlaw.

Outlaw scored 25 points in 34 minutes, about 12 mins more (or a full quarter) more than Noce has played.

Also, Noce was on LMA a lot of times so I’m guessing we’re counting both LMA and Outlaw’s points against Noce? Man, the man on OUtlaw sure had it easy, knowing Noce was gonna get the blame for Outlaw’s points.

by PatBull on Jan 12, 2009 9:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh right...

That’s why you said Outlaw torched him all night long.

But now, Im guessing Noce got torched by Outlaw (33), LMA (8pts), Oden (17pts) and Przbilla (2pts).

Heck let’s throw in Blake (16pts) and Roy (11pts) as well.

Damn! Noce gave up 87pts to 6 players? Trade him to the Raptors!

by PatBull on Jan 12, 2009 10:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Oden hasn't even played the 4th

they are just playing with us

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 9:48 PM CST reply actions  

They got the scouting report

VDN will do as much as he can to ruin the 4th, and the bulls players will do the rest.

by reprisal on Jan 12, 2009 9:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Paxson

Get that Jermaine O’Neal trade done NOW you testicleless nimrod! Noc will get hurt and that trade will get completely nixed..watch

by illini23 on Jan 12, 2009 9:50 PM CST reply actions  

bunch of rumors covered in the fanshot/post section today

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 9:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Hats off to Vinny...

If I were Thabo and Tyrus I would take VDN to an abandoned alley and knee him in the junk until dawn

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 9:50 PM CST reply actions  

what a jag

that man is. look at how the blazers play – defense, offensive sets, patience, teamwork. look at us: disorganized, no help D, no effort. Adios, VDN.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Jan 12, 2009 9:54 PM CST up reply actions  

How could they be so stupid as to hit him in the groin?

Judging by the way Vinny has handled Larry Hughes this season, he obviously has nothing there.

Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0

because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger

by Big D on Jan 12, 2009 10:12 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe because

you can’t hit him in the head either?

by j_myx on Jan 12, 2009 10:12 PM CST up reply actions  

0 shots for tyrus.

That is sickening, shows how hard it must be for him to play off of gordon and gooden. I’m sick of this shit get rid of gooden, gordon, hughes. These guys are ball hogs, gooden takes way too many long jumpers, gordon has his five ball hog look like an ass out there moments, and Hughes well he’s a lost cause and sadly deserves better than our team at this stage in his career. It’s not like he’s better than thabo.
I’LL GIVE VINNY UNTIL THE ALL STAR BREAK TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER TO BELIEVE IN HIM OR GIVE UP. NOT LOOKING GOOD THE OFFENSE LOOKS LIKE COMPLETE FUCKING SHIT.

by armstrong2389 on Jan 12, 2009 9:51 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

BG only has 10 Shot Attemps

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 9:52 PM CST up reply actions  

ok guys

I take my leave now. See you all at our next dissapointent

by thebullsbeat on Jan 12, 2009 9:51 PM CST reply actions  

it was real

it was fun
it was real fun :(

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 9:53 PM CST up reply actions  

if by "fun" you mean, "want to stab my retina out with a ballpoint pen"

then yes, it was very fun

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 9:53 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah, that about describes it

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Where is Sefolosha?

He was having a good game.

"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 12, 2009 9:53 PM CST reply actions  

Can you now see why there's so much cursing over here?

It’s insufferable watching this team.

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Jan 12, 2009 9:54 PM CST up reply actions  

"matchups"

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 9:54 PM CST up reply actions  

ha

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Jan 13, 2009 1:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe there was another Foodgate

Headband Gate, whatever gate that happened …

by T2fan on Jan 12, 2009 9:59 PM CST up reply actions  

SOL....sobbing out loud. Vinny keeps Tyrus and Thabo and Noah glued to the bench as he

drives the Bulls right off a cliff. Does anyone notice, when the crap starts flowing, he put his head down and rubs his closed eyes, maybe to wipe off the cobwebs? since he obviously is not watching what is happening on the floor.

Watch the Blazers work the ball to the open man. Now watch the Bulls run a playground pickup game offense, where there are no plays, no execution, no brains.

If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard

by Tyrusmancrush on Jan 12, 2009 9:54 PM CST reply actions  

Del Negro is a pathetic coach

Just look at him on the sideline. He doesn’t coach…He just sits there with his hand on his face with his head down. I don’t blame him though, he wasn’t ready to be a HC and the only person that would have given him a job is John Paxson. The 2nd worse GM in the entire NBA.

by illini23 on Jan 12, 2009 9:55 PM CST reply actions  

He's garbage:

we have the most primitive offense in the league. Possibly the worst defense. No teamwork.

He needs to be fired.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Jan 12, 2009 9:56 PM CST up reply actions  

C'mom Rose

One more assist and you get a double-double

by bull83 on Jan 12, 2009 9:56 PM CST reply actions  

whatever

he played poorly. awful defense, missed layups.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Jan 12, 2009 9:57 PM CST up reply actions  

wtf

here comes Thabo!!! Is VDN the only coach who puts in a starter in garbage time

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 9:57 PM CST reply actions  

Noce is averaging like 3fouls per minute

these hacks are getting stupid now

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 9:57 PM CST reply actions  

Obviously Thabo needs to start bitching in the newspapers

Apparently that’s the way to get playing time here.

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by Big D on Jan 12, 2009 9:57 PM CST reply actions  

he must think its the 3rd quarter or something

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 9:58 PM CST up reply actions  

IS THAT THABO?!!?!??!

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by Illini15 on Jan 12, 2009 9:58 PM CST reply actions  

king sucks

stacy king sucks, the guy was a complete bust need i remind you with the bulls….

by armstrong2389 on Jan 12, 2009 9:58 PM CST reply actions  

Yes!

Double-double for Rose
Is like a win for the Bulls :s

by bull83 on Jan 12, 2009 9:59 PM CST reply actions  

Noc is just giving up

6 frustration fouls?

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 9:59 PM CST reply actions  

Career nights:

that’s what we do, baby.

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by MPG on Jan 12, 2009 10:01 PM CST up reply actions  

ANd here I thought all VDN's positivity

was supposed to help us.

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by MPG on Jan 12, 2009 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Welcome to the 2008-2009 Chicago Bulls!

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Jan 12, 2009 10:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

Hughes and Noc come first

by bull83 on Jan 12, 2009 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I disagree

He is a terrible player and has no business in a pro basketball uniform. If you can’t be bothered to lift a weight or run laps in the offseason, then there is no reason I should pay to watch you. I boo Noah on a regular basis, just as I boo VDN and Larry Hughes.

by Stay Chisel on Jan 12, 2009 11:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I can't wait to see what hughes says after the game

i expect a kc johnson article on playing time specifically hughes.

by armstrong2389 on Jan 12, 2009 10:00 PM CST reply actions  

They needs to make that trade.

And if they can trade for Travis Outlaw, they need ot make that too. Better D than Deng. Better shooting. More athletic. Cheaper.

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by MPG on Jan 12, 2009 10:00 PM CST reply actions  

I don't think you want Outlaw

not a better defender (just loses his man, all the time, and poor with defensive rotations), a streaky shooter, a black hole on offense. A frustrating player. go to Blazers Edge and read back a week at the Trade Travis posts. A game winning shot and tonight’s game have swung it in the other direction, for the time being. Games like this don’t come that often

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by Honka Playboy on Jan 13, 2009 1:20 AM CST up reply actions  

BOOOOOOOOO.....

honka…cummon now.

sure travis ain’t no lock down enforcer type of defender…but I can’t think of many more second unit guy’s that play off the ball like travis does…almost 50% of his blocks come out of nowhere …. that’s gotta count for something right?

Travis’ll be no lebron james..but he’s no larue martin either…..

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by faith on Jan 13, 2009 9:27 AM CST up reply actions  

He is certainly not LaRue Martin

but he’s been in the league six years and still gets lost in the zone, loses his man on the perimeter, forgets to box out (a big problem when he at the 4). He has spurts of defensive concentration, spurts of great shooting. As for the help defense, how many blocks is he getting this year? Compare him to the beleagured Tyrus Thomas of the Bulls, comparable size and leapability. TT help defends.

I’m not knocking what he does – but he is not the cure for what ails the Bulls

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by Honka Playboy on Jan 13, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

hes also been passing the ball quite alot more latley,

it just hasnt been showing up on the stat sheet. hes not as much of a black hole as your making him out to be.

They LIED!!!

http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html

by maid tu rek on Jan 13, 2009 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't know

some shots went down last night. But 0 (Zero) assists. If some of those shots hadn’t fallen, we would be singing a different song. He’s confident right now and we want him shooting. When he isn’t, I don’t like what he brings

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by Honka Playboy on Jan 13, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree that there are nights that leave me frustrated,

but he really has been showing improvement on alot of those areas that have caused two fist sized bald spot on the sides of my head. The assist is kinda tricky, since its only telling the story of “Made” shot imediatly after the pass, with out any other dribble. I watch almost every game at least twice, and sometimes more,(basicly to look for what others complain about or double check any of my own observations, and it another round of fun) and i promise you that hes been passing the ball. He’s also been looking for rebounds quite a bit more as well, but not nessassaraly boxing out. at any rate, the guy can ball. But im still not completely relaxed with him on the court unless its late in the fourth. He fricking shines bright when the game matters. Fingers crossed he keeps this up.

They LIED!!!

http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html

by maid tu rek on Jan 13, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Hughes will say

CLEARLY we lose when I don’t get enough minutes.

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 10:01 PM CST reply actions  

And he'll play 25 minutes in the next game

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by Big D on Jan 12, 2009 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

that was disgusting

the team showed no life at all

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 10:02 PM CST reply actions  

They did for

a short time in the first quarter.

by sue369 on Jan 12, 2009 10:03 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah, when they were running

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by tyrus4prez on Jan 12, 2009 10:04 PM CST up reply actions  

and then VDN went and messed it all up

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by Illini15 on Jan 12, 2009 10:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I have to say, however, I am impressed

with the folks at BEdge. They showed restraint tonight.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Jan 12, 2009 10:03 PM CST reply actions  

The night is young

don’t count us out yet…

Actually, that could be a bad sign for you… we would never show this much restraint against a Boston or Orlando…

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 12, 2009 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Do you talk smack to the Lakers?

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Jan 12, 2009 10:13 PM CST up reply actions  

pardon

Lakers fans.

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by MPG on Jan 12, 2009 10:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Because they so richly deserve it!

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by MPG on Jan 12, 2009 10:14 PM CST up reply actions  

probably

but there’s not much smack to be said to them… we beat them last year, but have gotten slapped around so far this season

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 12, 2009 10:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Season series is not over

keep the faith.

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by MPG on Jan 12, 2009 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes

Laker fans and Blazer fans get along like cats and dogs.

"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 12, 2009 10:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I just caught the game...

and I have never seen the United Center SOOO empty…

I hope this is a wake up call…(Because abysmal play from our guys and horrible coaching don’t seem to be enough…)

by Agusnico on Jan 12, 2009 10:04 PM CST reply actions  

Good game Chi-Town

Derrick Rose is a Stud

Oden...Aldridge...Roy.....THE REAL BIG THREE

by CroRupt on Jan 12, 2009 10:04 PM CST reply actions  

This is like high school gym class...

the Blazers are the jocks, and they somehow all got to be on the same team. The Bulls are the “other” guys: Nocioni is the foreign guy that plays really hard even though he doesn’t really know the rules, Gooden is the annoying tall guy who pays no attention on defense and thinks he can shoot so he just stands around waiting to get the ball so he can jack up another jumper, Hughes is the guy who everybody knows is garbage but he hogs the ball anyway and shoots every time he touches the ball, Deng is just the average tall guy that never really played any sports but just runs around and manages not to make any difference in the result either way.

Just fuck this whole team, except Rose.

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by kite on Jan 12, 2009 10:04 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

The guys we don't play are pretty good.

They just don’t effect the game too much, since we don’t play them.
Weeeeee coaching!

"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com

by Prevenge on Jan 12, 2009 11:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Well....you guys held Roy down

He played like dump (for his standards).

"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 12, 2009 10:06 PM CST reply actions  

and LmA

He played bad too.

"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 12, 2009 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

No, we suck and you guys have a very good up and coming team

It’s been good to see Bulls and Blazers fans getting along this time around

by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 12, 2009 10:09 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

No, we really do suck.

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by Illini15 on Jan 12, 2009 10:14 PM CST up reply actions  

"good defense":

“run around and be all confused about what to do because the head coach doesn’t know what he’s doing”

"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com

by Prevenge on Jan 12, 2009 11:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Norm Van Lier on Portland: "Good young talent . . . with experienced coaching."

Hmmm, could he be drawing a contrast there?

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by Big D on Jan 12, 2009 10:08 PM CST reply actions  

old talent?

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 10:12 PM CST up reply actions  

bingo, yahtzee,

we have a winner….

nah, jk.

I just felt bad for the lack of Troll-age tonight and wanted to liven things up

by Bust a Bucket on Jan 12, 2009 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Poll question:

Key to season turnaround?
kirk’s return
luol’s return
defense picking up
trade to switch things up
big man veteran

wheres “real coach at?”

and the “all of the above” choice?

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 10:11 PM CST reply actions  

VDN

VENERAL DISEASE is not as NASTY.

If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard

by Tyrusmancrush on Jan 12, 2009 10:11 PM CST reply actions  

Seriously...

that’s like half our games right there…

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by MPG on Jan 12, 2009 10:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Please keep posting this the rest of the season. It's way too awesome.

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by Illini15 on Jan 12, 2009 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

i like this

you should make a continuously updated fanshot of this or something

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

LMAO! rec'd. Although he didn't score THAT much,

that Dan Gadzuric game still makes me cringe when I think about it

by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 12, 2009 10:17 PM CST up reply actions  

And Oden would have had a career high if they had played him a little more

At least they had some mercy on us.

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by Big D on Jan 12, 2009 10:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Deng sucks!

Cubs suck!

Trade someone please!

by ImmanuelKant on Jan 12, 2009 10:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Sigh

Way to represent your demographic, bud.

by NittanyCub on Jan 12, 2009 10:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Imperatively,

I am categorically offended by your posts.

"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
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by Prevenge on Jan 12, 2009 11:08 PM CST up reply actions  

quote of the night at BE

 I’m trying to troll, but can’t

they just keep saying "No, we really do suck"

The Truth About Darius

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 10:19 PM CST reply actions  

I just wish they would leave

Even though I only like about half of the actual posters here, if that, at least there’s a common ground for liking the Bulls the most of any team.

I don’t know why they have to post on another blog when their own blog gets more hits. They make me a sad panda.

by NittanyCub on Jan 12, 2009 10:26 PM CST up reply actions  

:(

when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.

by Net Ranger on Jan 12, 2009 10:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Why are you choking your dog?

Thats pretty sick.

Trade someone please!

by ImmanuelKant on Jan 12, 2009 10:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Why do you get so angry after I made one jab at you?

Aw, did I hurt your feelings? : – (

Here’s an idea: stop being a little girl, suck it up, and stop posting stupid shit about Deng sucking.

by NittanyCub on Jan 12, 2009 10:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Deng sucks!

Welcome to America.

Trade someone please!

by ImmanuelKant on Jan 12, 2009 10:36 PM CST up reply actions  

:(

when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.

by Net Ranger on Jan 12, 2009 10:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Why is saying Deng sucks such blasphemy?

It may be a little over the top, but he sucks right now. It’s true! What’s the big deal? Not to mention that this is a game thread and due to the emotion of the game, the comments here are prone to hyperbole. Just like when people call Derrick Rose god, he’s not actually god and most people don’t think so when they write it. So you need to chill the fuck out!

by Juiceboxjerry on Jan 12, 2009 10:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks jerry! Great analysis!

Those 3 steals and 8-8 from the line with 14 points even only he went 3-10 from the line was horrendous.

And Rose is not a God? Thanks for telling me the exact details of what goes on! JBJ, YOU’RE THE BEST!

by NittanyCub on Jan 12, 2009 10:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I wanna make one thing very clear here.

Let Derrick Rose play a whole season before you call him the franchise. He’s good but he has a lot to work on. Like his Jump shot and knowing when to be a leader. Derrick Rose has his little tantrums a lot do you ever see those? Not good when your a point guard. You need to be composed at all times.

This wasn’t directed at any comments here I just have noticed he can be a bit of a cry baby.

Trade someone please!

by ImmanuelKant on Jan 12, 2009 10:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I know I think it's fair.

He’s not played very well but he will get a pass. He misses people who are open down low like Tyrus or Noah.

I see it every game there’s somebody open by the basket but he’s too busy dribbling and then like waves them off. Um no a point guard should laser that to Noah’s gut. Rose has some flaws. I don’t always like his body language either. It’s gotten progressively worse.

Trade someone please!

by ImmanuelKant on Jan 12, 2009 11:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not saying anything crazy like he should be traded I just have seen

some things I don’t like in him but he can always clean that crap up.

Trade someone please!

by ImmanuelKant on Jan 12, 2009 11:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm sorry for the panda

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"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Jan 13, 2009 1:27 AM CST up reply actions  

I fell asleep at half time

But was Tyrus and Thabo playing bad at least and thats why they didn’t play in the 4th

by Camry on Jan 12, 2009 10:20 PM CST reply actions  

they were playing fine

VDN just sucks a big royal wang

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 10:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Thabo was playing very good

"When I have the ball, I experiment." #5

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 12, 2009 10:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I was going to ask if Deng and Noch were playing like All stars

but now I figure we wouldn’t of been down by double digits in the 4th if they were.

I remember Stacey King talking about Tyrus not being satisfied with his offensive production and he said the important part was he was playing good defense. I think he should of directed that to Vinny since he was the one sitting Tyrus again.

by Camry on Jan 12, 2009 10:26 PM CST up reply actions  

You want me to be positive?

Shucks the Bulls sure looked good in that first quarter! Gee I love this team forever!

Trade someone please!

by ImmanuelKant on Jan 12, 2009 10:31 PM CST reply actions  

least you guys have 6 rings

when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.

by Net Ranger on Jan 12, 2009 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

You have Bill Walton are you kidding?

I would trade him for those rings and the White Sox world series.

Trade someone please!

by ImmanuelKant on Jan 12, 2009 10:35 PM CST up reply actions  

we also have Richard Anderson

but, i’m not throwing him in on the deal unless you buy me a Quiznos.

when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.

by Net Ranger on Jan 12, 2009 10:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Deal the last time I ate at Quiznos the lady

threw my sandwich against the wall because I wanted to change my order to the meetball sub.

Trade someone please!

by ImmanuelKant on Jan 12, 2009 10:40 PM CST up reply actions  

lol

http://awsomepeoplesearch.com/

by NormVanBeer on Jan 12, 2009 10:43 PM CST up reply actions  

wow. what a biznatch

when i get sad, i stop being sad & become awesome again. true story.

by Net Ranger on Jan 12, 2009 10:49 PM CST up reply actions  

That's exactly what I said last game thread

The blatant attitude of “F the team, I’m getting mine” is the worst part of watching this group. I’d have this much tolerance of derailing the team’s goals: one too quick ill-advised shot, I pull you immediately and tell you about it. Second offense, hit the showers, you’re done tonight.
   Pax, in his soft-spoken manner, wasn’t the least bit unclear about this issue. VDN (or somebody) has to say, this is about the Chicago Bulls; check your personal agendas at the door. I will bring in 5 d-leaguers and lose 82 games, but there is not going to be one minute of PT for anyone to showcase themselves. I’m beginning to think my wild idea of bringing in Bobby Knight wasn’t that wild.

by California Al on Jan 13, 2009 12:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Knight would be fine by me

as long as Sprewell is signed to choke the arrogant SOB.

I hear Spree needs the money to feed his family.

by Granny Waiters on Jan 13, 2009 2:06 AM CST up reply actions  

But wouldn't that bring out a whole new set of problems?

What separates a bad shot from Rose from a bad shot from Gordon?

If DRose shoots it, it’s motivated by the “team concept” if Gordon shoots it, it’s from selfishness? Drose did drive and miss a lot (when he could have dumped it or kicked it out). Im assuming that’s still unselfish basketball, but only because Rose did it? If Gordon or Hinrich did it, it’s selfishness?

by PatBull on Jan 13, 2009 3:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Did I in any way say that one is selfish and one's not?

You need scorers, and selfishness is a necessary part of that persona. MJ is the model for scorers. He made the same decisions BG or any other scorer does to “take over”. The difference was that more often than not, he was successful. But even Michael had to be reigned in occasionally. And with age, his sense of timing and cooperation got better. Therefore, his “selfishness” was an asset to the team and generated winning bball. But when Phil first announced that MJ’s scoring and minutes needed to be reduced for the sake of the team, his response was lukewarm: “We’ll see how it works out”. It worked, happily ever after.
   What I’m talking about is the scenario where 5 guys come downcourt to run a set offense. Ball comes over half court and the first pass is made. For no particularly good reason, that player puts it up, contrary to what the coach, the GM, the fans and the other 11 players had in mind. That’s poor basketball. And Vinnie’s response is to get depressed. And that, my friend, is a big part of why I see the team spiralling downward out of control.
   There are three players who are in a career situation where the team’s success probably gains nothing for them, and their losses probably don’t mean jack: BG, Hughes and Gooden. Noc has deteriorated. In BG’s case, it can be argued that it’s at least half mgt’s fault. And he’s easily the most prolific scorer of the bunch, so he does and should wear the “scorer’s” mantle.
     So how do you coach a team where so many in your rotation aren’t necessarily playing for the Bulls any more? Obviously, you need to have the strength to stand up to anti-team behavior in ways other than fining them for petty infractions like headbands and sandwiches. Bobby Knight was just a caricature and embodiment of a coach who won’t tolerate contrarian behavior on the court. When we all see VDN holding his head and leaving the offenders on the court, or hear how B*^$# was literally afraid to say anything to Wallace, it makes me wish for a coach who at least had the balls to confront that crap. Or a player who would. Either way, the message has to be 100 consisten: this all about the team; check your personal agendas at the door.

by California Al on Jan 13, 2009 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Knight as a lame-o Lou Holtz-esque motivational speaker?

or as the coach?

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 13, 2009 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Actually, Matt, I've always found Knight to be a bore as a speaker

But read my post above; I see a need for someone who will confront anti-team behavior in a right here, right now manner. If you weren’t supposed to take a contested long two 7 seconds into the clock, you should get the appropriate feedback right now. A flying folding chair is preferred to seeing the coach burying his head in his hands. Hell, even Zenmeister called out MJ or Shaq or Kobe from time to time. VDN seems to only be able to confront players on a rookie contract.
     As a secondary argument in defense of a Knight type: do you think he’d have any tolerance of the Paxdork non-action this far into this year?

by California Al on Jan 13, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

the next and only thing I want to hear about Bobby Knight

is when he dies.

Not saying it has to happen soon or anything, I just have no use for him.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 13, 2009 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

ok, forget Knight

Do you get my point about correcting the indulgent attitude towards losing basketball? I can’t stomach that Vinnie seems to have zero tolerance for young players (Thabo, TT and Noah) who make rookie mistakes, and 100% tolerance for vets who deliberately f*** up the team.

by California Al on Jan 13, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

definitely.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 13, 2009 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

What excuse will Vinny make tonight?

Hinrich and Deng are back, so he can’t blame injuries anymore. Maybe he’ll blame the weather.

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by Big D on Jan 12, 2009 10:44 PM CST reply actions  

he said

they need to practice together since they have this whole “new group” back together and build chemestry

clearly that is it, and not the benching of ThaboThomas

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by chibullsfan03 on Jan 12, 2009 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

VDN should legally have his middle name changed to:

Excuses…………then he can rightfully say that
Ecuses is my middle name.

And I recommend instead of keeping his first name, Vinny, I think it would be more appropriate if he changed it to Bullshit.

If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
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by Tyrusmancrush on Jan 12, 2009 10:56 PM CST reply actions  

I'll say this

something has to happen here soon. This whole thing has fishtailed. I would think some heads will be rolling sometime this week. The Bulls have been run into the ground with bad everything and selfish players. Damn Pax.

I still can’t believe people pay over 800 dollars for those front court seats. Yeah I know to them it’s like 20 bucks but still.

Trade someone please!

by ImmanuelKant on Jan 12, 2009 11:01 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah, but I wasn't too big on Skiles being the problem

From what I’ve gathered, Skiles lost the team because he wouldn’t stand up to Wallace. I guess it’s a conspiracy theory on everyone’s part as to why he wouldn’t stand up to Wallace, but i don’t believe the various stories that he was “afraid”. Skiles is the guy who once challanged Shaq to a fight, no? Does it make any sense that he’d be afraid to tell Wallace what’s what?

My thinking is that management basically told Skiles, or implied to him, “hey, we just paid $60M for this guy, you need to work with him”. And so Skiles accommodated him and lost his authority.

That doesn’t mean I think Skiles was perfect. He definitely fucked up Chandler and possibly scapegoated Tyrus. But looking back, I think the basic thing I see is that the Skiles was the glue of this team. And I don’t see any reason that he would have suddenly just started taking Wallace’s shit. It really doesn’t seem like his personality to do so. Perhaps that’s why he was more than willing to quit?

He looked at the situation and said “look, you brought me in to coach this team, you gave me this player who doesn’t respect me, and you’re tying my hands as to what I can do about it. F this”

The obvious comparison would be to Jerry Sloan. For several years, Skiles was to the Bulls as Jerry Sloan is to the Jazz. I wonder if Greg Ostertag is comparable to Tyson Chandler in that sense? He and Sloan eventually kissed and made up.

But yeah, what makes Jerry Sloan be Jerry Sloan is being in charge. The moment they let someone in that locker room be the boss will be the first time. The Bulls pretty clearly let that happen with Wallace, and I’d be shocked if Skiles were some sort of willing enabler to that.

De gustibus non est disputandum

by Sports2 on Jan 13, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Well there have been a lot of coaching changes this year so far...

I really can’t say how good or bad Vinny is as a coach, but it seems that Skiles is/was better. Maybe he needed a bit of flexibility at times. I can’t imagine Chicago would suffer through to many more bad seasons without yet another coaching change.

Anyway, as far as fan from other fanbases visiting your website. I sort of thought that was what SB NAtion was about to some extent. Fans for other cities sharing thoughts about basketball and various games, players, etc. I agree trolling and inflammatory comments are in bad taste, especially when the other team is winning.

Some impressions. Rose is a good players and will be great. Hinrich seems like a good role player and starter in the right situation. Nocioni seems like a good role player. Gooden can be adequate on offense, but looks slow on defense. BG is a good offensive player. Gray and Noah…an upgrade can’t be that hard soon can it? Thabo, yes, more of him.

Deng seems to be about as good as he is going to get. No offense, but after Rose, I don’t see any marquis players. I read that TT was doing pretty well when given consistent minutes. Perhaps the staff needs to take a more dedicated approach in developing him better. Which brings me to Larry hughes. From the outside in, I don’t understand the hate for Hughes. Is it his play or demeanor? or both?

This isn't the Lakers,...
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by GameFace on Jan 13, 2009 5:38 PM CST reply actions  

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