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Since Jordan, at what point did you realize things wern't going to work out for the best?

As a wolves fan during Cassell-KG-Sprewell and after, I realized things were not going to work out for the better when Brandon Roy was traded for Randy Foye. At what point(s) did you realize the Bulls were in trouble or really stuck since Jordan last played?

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About the time we all started getting THX 1138 style screen names.

It’s been sooo long, and we’ve been stuck in so many different ways. A few that stick out:

  • I remember the Chicagosports.com running a “Tim Thomas agrees to $67M contract with Bulls” story and then taking it down really quickly the next day when he changed his mind and went back to the Bucks. Of course that was a bullet dodged, as it turned out, but it was pretty crazy to lose out on all those various FAs, then think we got one, then have it snatched away.
  • Message boards alight with the wonders of Chris Mihm’s outlet passing and how it’d save the day for us (as a TWolves fan, apply that lesson to Kevin Love!)
  • Trading Curry and AD coming off a season where everything finally came together was a pretty big buzzkill for me.
  • Trading Chandler in a salary dump about 10 seconds after getting Wallace, and basically not making any real effort to get a piece to get in real contention.

by Sports2 on Sep 8, 2008 7:19 PM CDT reply actions  

you're not?

“As a wolves fan during Cassell-KG-Sprewell and after”

What?

Step 1 - Win lottery. Step 2 - Hire a coach. Step 3 - Win.

by Lt.Dan on Sep 8, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply actions  

When we continued to lose to NJ

time after time and to other teams that had good guards.

by hlac on Sep 8, 2008 9:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Wolves on the slide

The Wolves actually traded Sam Cassell AND a first round draft pick in a sign and trade for MARCO JARIC! They gave him a 6 year $40 million contract. Seriously.

by 0004248939 on Sep 8, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Think about this

Three teams (Boston, Portland, Memphis) are putting together contending squads right now around three players (one for each) who were all with the Timberwolves in the last two years: Kevin Garnett, Brandon Roy, and OJ Mayo. The Wolves meanwhile are patting themselves on the back for the key aquisition of Mike Miller, that’s right, Mike Miller! Only the dead and blind can’t see a losing team at the Target Center.

by 0004248939 on Sep 8, 2008 9:50 PM CDT reply actions  

LOL

at Memphis putting together a contending squad right now !

The Game chose him !

by Diabolo on Sep 9, 2008 2:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

What's wrong with Memphis?

They’ve got a really nice team and the only young superstar in the league (OJ Mayo), it’s only a matter of when.

by 0004248939 on Sep 9, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's the only young superstar

Lebron James is a Republican myth. Dwyane Wade is nice, but he’s not OJ Mayo, and certainly not a superstar.

by 0004248939 on Sep 9, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

More...

In 2002 in a choice between a blooming Chauncey Billups and $2 million cap space, the wolves chose space. They picked up Troy Hudson for a year after that. But on top of that they signed T-Hud to a 5 year $32 million contract in 2003 only to trade for Sam Cassell basically exactly one week after that, Cassell, of course, making $32m Hudson totally irrelevant on the court. Jaric was supposed to take Cassell’s spot as starting PG, but seeing as he has no PG skill or passability whatsoever, he lost his job to Hudson who obviously was still under contract, but then sadly both of them lost their job to Marcus Banks after a trade, who was subsequently cut after the season. So in 2006 when Brandon Roy was available to solidify the backcourt, the wolves were paying $13 million to Marko Jaric and Troy Hudson, both of which were inferior to a player who was cut due to poor performance. So the Wolves did the sensible thing and unloaded Brandon Roy. No way in hell could I support them after that, Go Blazers (and Grizzlies)!

by 0004248939 on Sep 8, 2008 10:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Ron Mercer.

but the Wallace project was a bad wakeup call

by Belize on Sep 8, 2008 10:48 PM CDT reply actions  

For as terrible as you say the Wolves have been (and they have been terrible),

they still lucked into one of the best front court players in the game when they got Al Jefferson in the Garnett dump.

It’s true that a lot of their other moves make no sense. But damn, Al Jefferson would look great in a Bulls uniform.

"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris

by bullhockey on Sep 9, 2008 5:36 AM CDT reply actions  

I think he wasnsaying we should

Trade for Al Jefferson, especially since the Wolves just traded for Kevin Love…Drew Gooden has an expiring deal and we could throw in Noc as well…

by Dionysus2.0 on Sep 9, 2008 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

But they traded 'the best' for 'a decent' front court player

If they kept Brandon Roy KG would still be a Timberwolf.

I don’t understand why everyone outside MN is in love with the Wolves, especially after the trading of Mayo which is the worst move in franchise history. ?

by 0004248939 on Sep 9, 2008 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

when

Curry and Chandler sucked it up in the summer league when they were in their third year. I knew then that these two were never going to be stars and that the Krause plan had failed.

by JSlakov on Sep 9, 2008 9:50 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't know

Chandler’s looking like a star these days and a steal for his $10M a year….and I don’t think that’s all Paul either. Chander is playing like a more mature version of the Tyson we saw the tail end of 2005-2006 or whatever his second to last year with us was…..

But yeah Curry I never thought much of. Still if you could hav eonly combined the two…..

by majoyenrac on Sep 9, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

i have no regrets about chandler

he’s come into his own, but his numbers aren’t that much better than his best season as a bull… he’s just been able to control his fouls so he’s able to get more minutes. but it was clear he wasn’t going to go anywhere as a bull, his morale was destroyed… he had to go.

by Jaina on Sep 9, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or...

… perhaps we could figure out how to, you know, not destroy talented young players and then ship them off for fading old ones.

by Sports2 on Sep 9, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

i suppose i should clarify my point

i have no regrets on giving him up because at that point, he had to go.

however, i obviously would have liked it if it hadn’t come to that in the first place.

by Jaina on Sep 9, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

well

Chandler is good, but he’s not a star. If Curry had been all he could have been, it wouldnt have mattered because Chandler could have been just the defensive force he is, but in order for the plan to have worked they needed at least one star out of the two of them

by JSlakov on Sep 9, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually I regress

I think when I lost my Chandler jersey in cabo and the minute I got back to the states, Chandler got traded. Bad voodoo I say…something in that damn water

by Belize on Sep 9, 2008 5:14 PM CDT reply actions  

I think you need your own Blog

"I knew I'd always remember it as the night me and Michael combined for 70 points" - Stacey King after Jordan scored 69

by Goostafer on Sep 9, 2008 10:47 PM CDT reply actions  

When Jordan came back but couldn't win a title in 1995

What a sack of crap he was.

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Sep 10, 2008 5:34 PM CDT reply actions  

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