Shutting Down the Engine That Could
I recently read somewhere (fanhouse.com?) that Bonzi Wells is an unrestricted free agent at the moment. Add to that the fact that there's an impasse with Ben Gordon, along with the fact that the Bulls have a bunch of intriguing parts with no real identity.
Well a bunch of intriguing parts with no real identity also described the Bulls of the Eddie Robinson era.
The Bulls need to make a decision and affimatively choose what their identity will be; not cobble together a bunch of parts that clearly didn't match well chemistry-wise last season, and hope that a rookie PG and a rookie coach can energize everyone. That's not fair to Rose (or VDN for that matter).
So how should the Bulls establish their new identity?
Well, the best teams in the league have proven that you can go deep into the playoffs with 3 stars. And it's not just the Celtics. The Spurs, the Suns (prior to this year), the emerging Magic, the Lakers, the Warriors two seasons ago, the Mavs.
Everywhere you look, it's the tripod approach. You could even argue that the Pistons, the supposed example of no-stars-all-teamwork, got by primarily on the talent of Rip, Rasheed and Billups.
So then the next questions are, who to get rid of and who to keep. I believe that the Bulls should start shedding payroll massively. This means getting rid of Hinrich, and Noc, two guys who most personify the Little Engine That Could team that made it so far two seasons ago. By shedding the salaries of Noc and Hinrich, even if they get pennies on the dollar in return, the Bulls would theoretically free up enough to sign Gordon. Then they can throw a little money at Bonzi Wells and save the rest for upcoming free agents/extensions. (Capologists, please jump in, as I admit that I'm not one.)
You need a tall SG? Start Bonzi. You need scoring punch or a closer? Bring in Ben Gordon, the world's highest paid 6th man. Justify it by emphasizing that he's a closer. And, heck, give him about 15+ starts each season to keep other teams honest. (Or more to feed his ego a little.)
But won't Bonzi have a bad attitude? I tend to think he'd be grateful to join a young team on the rise after the horrible few years he's been through.
And of course, take away Larry Hughes' entitlement minutes. You don't even have to trade the guy, just tell him his minutes are going to take a back seat to Wells'.
Thabo backs up primarily the 3, but can also back up the 1 or 2 as needed. Or you can trade him.
This team won't get us to the conference finals right away, but that is exactly the point. According to this approach, we declare that the three stars are Deng, Rose and Gordon. If they lose a little in the beginning, so what? Let them lose together before they figure it out and start dominating. And by the way, I do believe that when surrounded by jump-shooting weapons such as Deng and Gordon, Rose will find a way to dominate. And for the record, I don't feel Kirk and Noc fit well with Rose, Reinsdorf's favoritism be damned.
This will also give us a chance to see what Tyrus has. Noah has shown some consistency, but no one is exactly waiting for him to build the arsenal of offensive weapons, as his specialty is more along the lines of put-backs and being an energy player. But the real question concerns Tyrus, who has shown flashes of offensive potential. Is he Michael Turner or is he Cedric Benson? Give the man his minutes and let us find out! If the Bulls end up horrible at the 4 and 5 spots and they end up missing the playoffs, then fine. Draft yet another big, and in the meantime, look (again) at free agents.
We've got time; Rose is going to be, what, 20 years old to start the season? Meanwhile, Hinrich and Noc are starting to show some age. By trading them, the team gets younger, meaning more time to grow together while maintaining continuity.
The key here is letting Rose develop, and letting him develop the identity of the team. The Little Engine That Could had a great run, but it just ran out of steam.
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I think the world's highest paid 6th man goes to
Manu Ginobili and rightfully so….
But anyway, Bonzi of 2-3 years ago, sure….that doesn’t seem to be the Bonzi of today (See Hornet’s last year). I’d rather start Thabo, Gordon or Hughes.
The Bulls main obejective/directive this year should be to throw Rose, Tyrus and Noah out there for 30+ minutes per game to see what we have in our young talent. We shouldn’t be brash even after last year. I don’t mind trading any of the former big 4 (Hinrich, Gordon, Deng or Noc if we need to do so) but I really think we need to give major minutes to our next big 3 to see if they are worth retaining.
I think Deng's new contract
signifies the Bulls see him as one of the “Big Three”.
I don’t think Noah can ever be put in that category due to his one-dimensional skill set (hustle, defense, intensity, maybe passing- no scoring skills at all). But he is the perfect complimentary player to a supposed “Big Three”.
I think TT is definitely the wild card. If he can really show growth this year and be consistent on both ends of the court, than the “Big Three” becomes more defined – Rose, Deng and TT. With Noah in place, the real challenge, as I see it, is finding the ideal 2 guard. I don’t want to start up that debate again here, but I will say that I don’t think BG is the ideal 2 guard. Maybe Thabo can become that by drastically improving his shooting and putting on a little more muscle weight.
I don't know
Tyson Chandler is definately similar/comparable to Noah….but Noah is slightly better on offense at least in his 1st year he was (which you could kind of compare to Tyson’s 4th year—although that’s a comparison that is better for Tyson since he had 3 full years at the pro level).
Noah seems to have a higher bball IQ than Tyson, knows how to be feisty to grab the ball, can catch a ball down low (something Tyson couldn’t do until late the year before last consistently), Noah can dribble quite well, and while his shot is ridiculously ugly, he can shoot FT’s well and has what many have called a very fixable shot.
Chandler’s definately a big 3 in a very solid NO team…..I think Noah can have a similar projectory in a few years.
Noah has a big advantage of seemingly wanting and being a leader on the court, Tyson had a lot of self confidence issues. Tyson’s a better rebounder today and maybe forever will be, but Noah might open some eyes this year if he worked on his game a bit in the offseason (which I hope he did after the legal issues in May)….
I will be happy with Noah
on offense if he can (1)get position down low and score on rebounds/put-backs, (2) catch a pass down low, keep the ball high, and put it in, and (3) when he gains more weight learn to back someone down to the basket for a kick out pass or turn around. Strangely, all the things that Wallace couldn’t do even if you put a red bow on it. Noah can do a lot of that right now. After he spends an off season serious with his work (unlike this off season if reports are correct) he should be able to do those things to various degrees of success.
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hope that a rookie PG and a rookie coach can energize everyone. That’s not fair to Rose (or VDN for that matter).
That’s exactly what they’re here to do. The identity will be a PG running a high-paced show.
You need a tall SG? Start Bonzi.
why, because of his awesome defense? If anything, Bonzi would be the ‘scoring punch’ because you can bring him in for spurts where you’d post him up a few plays. That’s if he can even still play anymore.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Sep 12, 2008 9:36 AM CDT reply actions
but...
I agree that Bonzi can score, and that he’s past his prime. Don’t get distracted by any of that. Bonzi is a placeholder. He brings skill and size (meaning he won’t be posted up as easily). He also doesn’t bring the bad habits of Larry Hughes.
None of that is important. The Bulls should take a step back for the very short term so that they can develop properly and approach something of a peak starting in year 3 of Rose’s career.
Having Hinrich there may hinder rather than help in terms of Rose’s development. Plus, he and Noc are known more for their grit, toughness and never-back-down defense than their ability to hit jumpers at a high percentage. And neither of them personifies the high-octane offense that you mention, in my opinion.
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agreed on that part.
but I think Bonzi does bring the same bad habits as Hughes. Maybe a team could catch lightning in a bottle: Bonzi gunning for that last big contract. But do you see that happening without a veteran team (or coach) around him?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Sep 12, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Hmm... re. Bonzi having the same bad habits as Hughes,
is that right? I was not aware… Maybe he has bad habits but not exactly the same ones as Hughes.
I consider him at least less likely to fancy himself a point guard (as Hughes does), less likely to gamble for steals because he fancies himself a great defender by doing so (as Hughes does), and at least a little less likely to consider himself a the primary crunch-time/last-shot option (as Hughes does).
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Bonzi's a pud
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonzi_Wells
- suspended for two games for publicly cursing at his coach after being taken out of a game
- Bonzi was also fined in a separate incident for making an obscene gesture to a fan. When asked by a media reporter about the incident, he said, “I black out sometimes”.
- Wells was suspended one game without pay and fined $10,000 for intentionally striking and verbally abusing an official in 2000.
- Bonzi and teammate Erick Barkley in 2001 were cited for criminal trespass after they refused to follow the order of an officer to leave the scene of a fight near a downtown nightclub.
- Citing undisclosed reasons by Fratello, he was suspended in Game 2 of the series against the powerhouse Phoenix Suns. He returned in Game 38, only to play nine minutes. Wells did not dress for the series-ending Game 4.
- Van Gundy placed Wells on the inactive list, dismissed him from team practices for over a month, and relegated him to working with trainers and on the exercise bicycle to improve his conditioning. Unsatisfied with his progress, Van Gundy eventually told him to stay away from the Toyota Center.
- Wells failed to show up for a road trip to face the Seattle SuperSonics. His status was unknown, but it was reported that he left a message on athletic trainer Keith Jones’ answering machine. In it, he said he felt like he was “disrupting team chemistry.”
- This whole thing with Rasheed Wallace as the main instigator.
So the theory...
… is we want to put a guy who’s got a fork sticking out of his back (Bonzi) next to Rose, because putting a guy who can actually play next to him might make him develop improperly?
This looks like another “you have to pull yourself up by your bootstraps or you’re nothing” philosophy. Which, in my experience, very rarely works. Isn’t it better to “learn” how to play on a good, functional team than on a mess surrounded by a bunch of Roger Dorns?
If the basic premise is that you “learn by playing”, I want my potential star to learn by playing with other players, rather than learn by playing with a guys who, by their attitude or lack of talent, will send the signal to my potential star that he needs to be a selfish player who shouldn’t trust his teammates.
And beyond that, Hughes looks like a downright boyscout compared to Bonzi.
You pose a great question when you say,
Isn’t it better to "learn" how to play on a good, functional team than on a mess … ?
I actually don’t think that the Bulls were a functional team last year. Their chemistry was putrid, and as mentioned above, their playing styles now clash. Don’t be deceived by the fact that all of them seem to be high quality, nice guys. They still didn’t have the chemistry that they’ll need in order to break even .500. And unless something changes with Gordon, they’re going to continue to lack the required amount of chemistry for a playoff run in the near future.
So, yes, I do believe that chemistry is required of them.
But your comment brings me to another issue, too: duplication. If Hinrich sticks around, and if Hughes gets entitlement minutes, then there’s 2 veteran PGs right there that VDN, or the fans, can fall back on or look to whenever Rose screws up. And because he’s a rookie, he will have some games where he’s just out there learning more than anything else.
It’s not that Bonzi is a savior and Kirk is a bust. It’s that Bonzi (or any other veteran SG who can hold that place) won’t threaten Rose for playing time. Again, it’s not about Bonzi; if he causes a mental block to go up, then replace him with Jumaine Jones or some other guy. It’s more about slashing Hinrich. And Noc. And letting Rose develop along with a new team identity.
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Hughes doesn't want to be a PG
At least, that’s one of the big knocks on him, that he doesn’t like it when teams ask him to play the point. I guess if Gordon’s gonna walk, be traded, or whatever, then Hughes is going to play big minutes probably be what you want Bonzi to be.
But as far as Hinrich and duplication, I don’t see why VDN (or Pax) needs to be saved from the temptation of using Kirk. If they don’t have the discipline to use these guys right in the first place, then we’re in big trouble no matter what. With little kids, you have to hide the cookie jar sometimes. With adults, if you have to do that, you’re probably not really dealing with adults.
Gordon is better long & short term than Bonzi the Whiner Wells...
Bonzi’s best years were in Portland 8 years ago before the Jailblazer experiment nearly self destructed. He’s a headcaser that VDN doesn’t need…I’d dump salary for an all-star caliber player, but Gordon isn’t one yet and may never be (watch his minutes dip again this year.)
As for the triple threat, I think the same could be said for teams with “the one” like Cleveland and L.A. , and teams with a great PG (Utah, Phoenix, GSW, N.O., NJN during the early Jason Kidd Era). A great PG can make a so-so team into a contender (see Nash, Steve; Kidd, Jason; Paul, Chris; Williams, Deron). Most of these Bulls have already shown that they can compete, and they still can. I’d rather trade Hinrich, Noce and whoever for a legit Big who can rebound and post up. Better yet lets see if Hinrich and Rose can CO-exist. If you want to deal away Hinrich, he’s got to get burn and produce.
Gordon will sign the QO and have his minutes reduced or he’ll agree to a contract that is below his asking, and still see his minutes reduced. If he suddenly agrees to a shorter (two or three year contract) and then plays his heart out, the Bulls might be able to find a taker and pair him with Gooden for a decent Big or beer yet, a disgruntled all star.
this short-term contract idea makes a lot of sense
unfortunately due to the Bulls’ lame-ass luxury tax line, they can’t offer him a good enough first-year salary to make a short term deal worth much.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Sep 12, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Noc and Hinrich showing age? Huh?
Captain Kirk is 27 years old. what’s Noc? 29/30? Kirk is just an average guard in this league. Nocioni is average as well.
Rose sets the bar now.
We need to recognize the players who will be a complimentary age and condition for when Rose hits his stride in three+ years. That means certain other players shouldn’t be viewed as part of the final act, Hinrich and Noc among them.
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