At SF he’s just plain. I’ve always thought he matched up pretty well at PF.

Offensively he’s just another SF, and a slow one who has trouble getting by the more athletic ones (read, all of them). Defensively, again, he can’t guard many of them worth a damn because even though he’s physical he’s typically pushed further out on the perimeter or “tricked” (not hard to do) into getting laughably out of position.

Defensively he’s undersized but he seems to get out of position less against fours, perhaps because he’s playing closer to them. And there, he’s playing physical and being annoying, which is his strong suit, but he’s doing it against guys that can’t just blow by him usually.

Of course he’s undersized there, but aside from the big guys that really shoot over him, it seems less of an issue to me.

And offensively, since he plays further away from the basket (and can shoot from there) than your typical four, he opens things up a tad and keeps a rebounder further away from the basket.

Buddies always make the same subtle arguments about players on the Bulls…and Noc always seems to come up…..a lil from the typical convo……
We wouldn’t ever bring up Noc needing to be traded if he made 4mil…..
Larry Hughes would be the perfect veteran off the bench if he made 5 Mil……
Kirk would be the best guard off the bench at either position to the tune of about 30 minutes a game if he didn’t the organization didn’t pay him like he was gonna be the cornerstone of the franchise for the next 10 years…
I love Noc,and I hope we can keep him,but all the signs say that you can’t overpay everybody from 2004-2008..and then add a big contract that replaced another big contract…

took it off of youtube!