No Doug Collins after all
by vanillablue on Jun 6, 2008 3:45 PM CDT
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[From the FanPosts. I wasn't completely against Collins, but him backing out sits fine. What doesn't is yet another public show of incompetence by the Bulls. Oh well, happy Friday everyone. -ed.]
Looks like Doug Collins will not be the coach next year.
Sez Collins:
This is absolutely mutual. When this first came about, there was a tremendous amount of excitement about this possibility. And I'm losing that. The feeling now is more, 'Should I do this?' Once I got to that point, it meant no. I always make decisions yes is yes, no is no and maybe is no.
I'm not fluent in coach-speak, but I think that translates to "they didn't offer me enough money."
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sounds more to me
like he was disheartened by the whole song and dance that the Bulls have been giving him and their reluctance to pull the trigger. It also probably didn’t help for him to hear the Casey was leapfrogging him for the front-runner position in the search.
by fundamentallysound on Jun 6, 2008 3:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats it my thought as well
It had gotten to the point where it would have been almost embarrassing.
by JeffD on Jun 6, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1080i or 720i?
To me this is the dilemma the Bulls face. Recently I was in Bestbuy scoping some TVs. The 720 is ok, it gets me a flatscreen tv at a cheaper price, but the 1080 is more expensive and the quality is way better. The Bulls want to bring in a quality coach, but doesn’t want to spend the money. I believe Reinsdorf thought Collins was a quality coach and since he has been in/out of coaching, his asking price would’ve been cheaper. But like all cheap TVs they break after a year and “you get what you pay for” in which Collins would have felt the grid of the NBA and quit after a year or two. This front office has 2 choice try their luck with an unproven guy, which is likely to fail and set the team back. Or bring in Sauders a at his asking price, and at least if Flip fails, this team would’ve progressed further than with a rookie coach.
by Soloistic on Jun 6, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What the hell are you yammering about
First of all, it’s 720p. And I can only assume you mean 1080p instead of 1080i, which is old technology.
I think Doug realized that Jerry was waiting for Doug to withdraw personally because Jerry didn’t have the cajones to tell his “son” that he would prefer not to hire him out of fear of risking their friendship. Jerry had to have the media communicate that, along with Casey’s rise, for Doug to get the hint. But Jerry wasn’t man enough to tell Doug himself, and Doug, as a good friend would, did this to save Jerry some face and to move on with his life. Jerry dawlded on D’Antoni, and he pussed out on Collins. We can’t put the failure to hire a coach on Paxson. I just only hope the Bulls don’t screw up the first pick now because they are very much looking like a incompetent, dysfunctional organization. The front office has just embarrassed itself this offseason without doing anything but winning the #1 pick.
by messwiththebull on Jun 6, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whew, another bullet dodged
Let’s just hope that talks w/ Avery aren’t rekindled
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by snley on Jun 6, 2008 3:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We know what's going to happen
Jerry won’t be able to decide between Dwane or Chuck, doesn’t like Avery, doesn’t have time to see Kurt and Brian because Thome may have broken out of his slump, and he wants to save dough so Pete Myers will get the job. Jerry has no problem having to fire him.
by messwiththebull on Jun 6, 2008 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would have been impoosible
to kill my enthusiasm after landing the 1st pick. After all this coaching crap, the cheap ass Bulls have found a way to do it. I just hate Reinsdorf so much.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if you can't get a coach
when you have several good young players and the #1 pick in the draft…something is seriously wrong with the organization. this should be a plum job. the fact that d’antoni and now collins have turned down the job under odd circumstances is a huge red flag. wtf are pax and reinsdorf doing?
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by vanillablue on Jun 6, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What we have here is a failure to communicate
I think its pretty obvious that pax has to wait until after the finals to interview a couple of guys since their teams are in the finals (rambis, shaw, thib)...why he doesnt just come out and say that is beyond me.
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by CONOR6 on Jun 6, 2008 3:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You might like this post
http://www.blogabull.com/2008/6/5/546318/dwane-casey-is-the-new-fro#6601237
We are in the midst of a “Paxson of Love” reality show.
by NBA Observer on Jun 6, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe most people are fine with this.
You guys really want the people mentioned to coach this team(Corbin or Casey)?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 3:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i want him to make sure
about shaw, rambis or thib first
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE
by CONOR6 on Jun 6, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
didn't want collins either
so I guess I’m ‘fine’ with the outcome here. but now I’m wondering how we’re going to get anyone to coach this team, besides some faceless assistant who will come cheap.
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by vanillablue on Jun 6, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i highly doubt they will hire someone without a face.
paulie, you gotta be kidding me, man.
by MarketMaker on Jun 7, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or avery or D'antoni or Flip or Carlisle or Larry Brown or anyone with any type of experience
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In other words, you wanted to be appeased by a name more than an actual fit or talent?
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by snley on Jun 6, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
Unless you have the IQ of a dog, that’s a ridiculous statement to make. Name doesn’t mean jack shit.
by Illini15 on Jun 6, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Name's not important to me
I was simply asking if name is all that’s important to Juiceboxjerry. Judging from his comments, I would guess yes
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by snley on Jun 6, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, I was referring to juiceboxjerry.
Sorry for the confusion.
by Illini15 on Jun 6, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Experience doesn't necessarily mean effective, or you know, that it's the right fit
Come on now
by Illini15 on Jun 6, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Such bullcrap,
do you guys work for the team? At least those guys are known commodities. All these other guys are just a crap shoot for the third largest media market in the country, with the first pick in the draft!
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you want a known commodity with a serious flaw just because they are a "name"?
Thank God you’re not our GM.
by Illini15 on Jun 6, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What the hell are you talking about? What flaw?
So you want some douchebag off the streets to just come in an coach this team for his first head coaching job. PLEASE! Jim frickin Boylan was a highly regarded assistant and was interviewing for teams last year! Does he have flaws?!!!
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone that believes this whole
Jerry and Doug are best buddies bullshit is blind. This a huge organizational issue, and Jerry Reinsdorf is out of his mind!
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you need to step back from the computer for a minute
Maybe take a few deep breaths…
by Illini15 on Jun 6, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As redundant as of a response as this is
Remember that dude named Phil Jackson? Where did he come from?
A known flawed commodity is not necessarily better or worse than an unknown. At this point, I’d rather gamble on an unknown than voluntarily hire a guy we know isn’t right for this group of players.
by Illini15 on Jun 6, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So all of the known guys were wrong for the job?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
None of it has to do with money right?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miraculously, all of the high priced, known coaches
were the “right fit” for Reinsdorfs cheap ass.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, they really weren't.
They dropped the ball on D’Antoni, but if you’re breaking your keyboard over your head thinking about the rest of them, you’re seriously delusional.
by Illini15 on Jun 6, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wanted D'Antoni
But it’s not like we should be crying over any of the others.
Carlisle is Skiles-lite, Larry Brown would probably quit after a year (possibly less), I’m not even going to address Avery, and Flip isn’t able to get it done with a loaded, veteran roster.
Sorry I’m not thrilled by any of them. I’d rather take a chance on a guy who could possibly be a much better fit.
by Illini15 on Jun 6, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it does turn out to be Thibs,
this whole debacle could strengthen his “hand” with the players. He could walk into the locker room as the guy the Bulls wanted all along.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on Jun 6, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he could say it
but only he and bullshooter would believe it.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 6, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he and who?
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on Jun 6, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh
couldn’t resist.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 6, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn, matt. after reading this...
i looked up bullshooter’s last comments to see what transpired. my hopes were really dashed. after all the incendiary comments he made on this site, i thought his last ones would have been pretty awesome, but unfortunately they were pretty benign. i’ll agree that he was unbearable at times, especially when he just shot down peoples’ opinions without providing his own, but on the other hand this site has been tough to comment on since the bulls won the lottery. bab might be well served to have someone shooting down some on the idiocy that has flooded the board in the last few weeks.
paulie, you gotta be kidding me, man.
by MarketMaker on Jun 7, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So the statement you want to make
to your fanbase after a horribly underachieving season is that, Tyrone Corbin is gonna be the coach to take us to the promised land? Especially after already missing out on two prominent coaches.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Study after study has shown that fans care about one thing and that's winning
If this whole debacle ends with the Bulls getting a coach who’s going to best help them win, the PR mess will be quickly forgotten.
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by snley on Jun 6, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only people excited about
the Collins hire were people who don’t know anything about this team. If you can’t figure that out, then you just don’t get it. Who cares what the general fanbase thinks; get the right guy to coach these players. That’s all that matters.
by Illini15 on Jun 6, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bullcrap, I know
the Bulls team pleny, and I wanted Collins so waht does that mean? I’m not a Bulls fan? Gimme a break the Bulls keep screwing up and guys like you let them off the hook with your flawed logic. They’re the joke of the NBA right now but i guess that’s just because people like me?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not everyone is "let them off the hook"
Collin was no Riley or Jackson. He was average coach who was likely to burn out in a few years. All talk of Collins came with a “succession plan” involving a groomed assistant. At best he was the guy to keep the seat warm until a quality candidate became available.
So some of us are not letting them off the hook as much as we are quasi relieved that Collins was not hired.
It appears though you had your hopes up on this guy before he was really hired.
"If you're not going to compete, then I'll dominate you." MJ
by Rankdog on Jun 6, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
collins was good
he got the bulls to the point they were when jackson took over. he took they to the conference finals and jackson was a student of his
by FUTURE12 on Jun 8, 2008 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't go that far re: Collins
But I’m not with the juicebox saying that hiring ‘noname’ means cheap.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 6, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think hiring a non-name
means cheap at all. What i’m saying is, you lose out to the first guy you really want (D’antoni), you don’t follow through with the second guy (Collins) and you don’t even interview Avery Johnson or Larry Brown. Not to mention Rick Carlisle, who also wasn’t the right fit. I think there’s a bit of a paatern here. And i’m not saying I liked all these guys either, for the record.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless Pax
Is waiting the Finals to end, and then interview Thibs, Rambis and Shaw, I’m beginnig to think that he doesn’t know what he’s doing. If he’s not thinking in getting one of those guys, this “problem” would have to be resolved a long time ago…
When are you going to do something good Pax?
by bull83 on Jun 6, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You missed a name on your list...
Isiah Thomas is another big name available.
"If you're not going to compete, then I'll dominate you." MJ
by Rankdog on Jun 6, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this can work if Pax can
figure out how Thomas can coach the Bull and still make trades with Pax for first round picks.
by boerwinkle on Jun 7, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who does everyone want at this point?
I’m going with Ty Corbin, based essentially on two things:
1. Tutelage under Sloan
2. Witnessing of the quick development of Deron Williams
Other than that, I don’t know too much about him, but those two factors are good enough for me.
by Illini15 on Jun 6, 2008 4:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How about Bill Wennington?
Who the hell cares at this point?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm only listing retreads, b/c none of us really know anything about the assitants
My list would go Flip, Bzdelek, Casey. Just from watching that Boston D last night, I like Thibodeau, but would want to know more about his flexibility and offensive philosophy.
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by snley on Jun 6, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thibodeau could be the one guy pax
is waiting to interview…i dont think they have had a formal interview yet, and that may be holding up the show. this coaching search has been frustrating, without question, but when the gm has to make a decision this big, why rush it? i mean, if pax wants tom thib, what the hell is he supposed to do right now?
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by CONOR6 on Jun 6, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aren't you making kind of a
snap judgement?
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by alec on Jun 6, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't I acknowledge that? At this point I really don't care all that much. Corbin's main two selling points are enough for me.
Just hire him.
by Illini15 on Jun 6, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was kidding.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on Jun 6, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Casey
His players seemed to like him, Minnesota fans seemed to like him, he has a history of developing young talent, and he did fairly well as a head coach. Hire Hollinger as assistant.
by YaoPau on Jun 6, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also that he is a Chicago guy helps.
It should be one one of the major considerations, but it is a good tiebreaker if Pax is really stuck on three guys. Atleast he knows better than most about the media circus he would be getting into.
by Devin47 on Jun 6, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's linking the Ty Corbin comment.
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by alec on Jun 6, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I blinked wrong on this one.
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by alec on Jun 6, 2008 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nice, very nice
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by snley on Jun 6, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
KC Johnson's updated article now says
The Bulls now likely will pick from among Person, Casey, Jazz assistant Tyrone Corbin and Rockets assistant Elston Turner. Flip Saunders, fired by Detroit earlier this week, has sent feelers about the Bulls’ job. But it’s not believed Paxson has much interest in Saunders.
That’s not an inspiring list, although who knows, Corbin or Turner could be OK. Pax evidently hasn’t caught the Flip fever.
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by vanillablue on Jun 6, 2008 4:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's truly strange
that ‘Drew Diligence’ can’t even have Flip in for an interview.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 6, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Start recommending this, people.
Let’s get this to the top.
by Illini15 on Jun 6, 2008 4:12 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I say we hire....
Johnny “Red” Kerr….he has coaching experience! lol
CHICAGO MANE!!!!
by YEP on Jun 6, 2008 4:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Now Brian Hanley reports that
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
why, he's a name. :)
He was in NBA Jam.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 6, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice...
Hillarious Matt.
For that matter, so were Jeff Hornacek, Mark Jackson and Avery Johnson. Maybe we should play them against each other and hire the winner.
by kidronmusic on Jun 6, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And to make it interesting
use the code to turn on full court dunks. He’s on fire!
by Petor on Jun 6, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Del Negro has no coaching experience, whatsoever...
How can you interview him 2 days in a row for the head coaching job and NOT interview Saunders or Johnson at all? Maybe they’re already set on the head coach and they’re interviewing for assistants? Or, in my best Sam Smith voice, maybe Del Negro- who was an assistant GM to Kerr in Phoenix- is going to replace Paxson as a GM?
by smash! on Jun 7, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What an incompetent franchise
What does it say about Pasxon and Reinsdorf that two coaches now have backed out of the job after dealing with them? Nobody with a reputation to maintain (deserved or not) wants to put up with their indecisiveness. This is probaby dumb luck, though, since Collins obviously wouldn’t have lasted (apparently he couldn’t even last two weeks – even before he officially took the job!). Paxson better not rush to hire anyone now just to make people forget about this, since he can just wait a week or two and hire Tom Thibodeau (assuming he even wants the job).
by Big D on Jun 6, 2008 4:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How do we know they backed out?
That’s my biggest problem with all these leaks. We don’t know that either coached ‘backed out’. We don’t know if there was a job offer. We don’t know if they did anything more than meet and chat over coffee before deciding that they’re not a good match.
The talks with Collins and D’Antoni could’ve gotten to the 2nd interview at which point one party figured out the job or the candidate wasn’t for them, so they backed out. That’s totally reasonable and completely to be expected.
What is neither reasonable nor expected is that every move, every interview, seemingly every thought by Paxson is now leaked to the media. We’re finding out about candidates before they even interview!! Paxson needs to clean up his front office and stop the leaks, post haste.
by BullsFanInSeattle on Jun 6, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What you say makes sense,
but I definitely prefer it this way.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on Jun 6, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tough for Pax to do
when Reinsdorf is doing the negotiations.
I’m guessing his ‘special’ relationship with Collins meant it started as something informal spawned from Pax’s endless quest. The “helping a friend” bullshit and whatnot.
Then the leaks came from Collins side when it become more serious, and then it all went to hell.
(just a guess)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 6, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reinsdorf
“And I’m disappointed because I won’t be reunited with Doug.”
Huh?? Why even say that? If you were THAT disappointed, then he would’ve been hired now wouldn’t he? JR is speaking out of both sides of his mouth in every situation that comes about.
I don’t really feel one way or another about this. I actually expected it once nothing was announced by Tuesday. The writing was on the wall.
The way this franchise handles things is comical.
by NormVanBeer on Jun 6, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
forget my guessing
I finally read the thing (I read the comments here first, heh), and Reinsdorf basically confirms it:
“While Doug was following our coaching search, he knew it didn’t seem to be going very well,” Reinsdorf said. “Because of his friendship for John and me, he felt he needed to reach out and help us. That’s why we started to talk.
Ha!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 6, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
if you read this thing…Collins comes off as pretty nutty.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 6, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How so?
It really reads to me like he read the writing on the wall and stepped away gracefully while he still could. It’s the most sensible decision regarding the Bulls I’ve seen in a while.
by Sports2 on Jun 6, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's mostly residual after reading the Leahy book
but saying how he ‘loves’ Reinsdorf and how he ‘spiritually’ felt he should coach the Bulls…it kind of ties in to his over-emotional persona that weirds me out.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 7, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right. We don't need a coach who is as unstable as its players
I was high on Collins initially, but can you imagine Collins screaming out Tyrus one day, then the next day hugging him in practice, telling him he loved him? Hell, Kirk could have increased his mope exponentially.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 7, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Paxson ought to shut up and do his job instead of crying about leaks
Every sports team has leaks, but the media shouldn’t even affect anything Paxson does. If he’s that worried about what’s in the paper, maybe he ought to get a job that doesn’t involve being the GM of a professional sports franchise.
by Big D on Jun 6, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if he thinks things would be any better
at notre dame?
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by alec on Jun 6, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
God, I hope so, then maybe
Reisdorf can go on an extended vacation with his best buddy in the whole world, Doug Collins, and we can finally become a real franchise.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the thing...
Every sports team has leaks, but the media shouldn’t even affect anything Paxson does.
I don’t think it does effect what Pax does, it just frusterates him. I think this search would have been the exact same if there were no such thing as media. I think it’s pretty understandable to be frusterated at having millions of people looking over your shoulder while you are trying to make important, difficult and complicated decisions.
I am nowhere near as upset with Pax as a lot of people are.
by kidronmusic on Jun 6, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
I really don’t know why they are making all of this public. And then the half truths get out and they look incompetent. For all we know the Collins thing was clean and normal, but little snippets got out to the media and it has been deemed yet another failure. For all we know this kind of stuff goes on for all the other organizations hiring and they just manage better PR and leak control than here.
The next time I hear anything about Bulls coaching better be when they’ve hired someone. I am tired of these near misses that might not have been anything in the first place and interview rumors and lists of names. Give me a call when they have the contract signed. Everything else needs to be behind the scenes.
by cranscape on Jun 6, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sam Smith indicated on the Tony Kornheiser Show that it was Collins's agent
who was getting word out.
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by snley on Jun 6, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is just comical
I would hate to stand in line behind Paxson at Dunkin Donuts.
by peruvianidol on Jun 6, 2008 4:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the funnier version of the same joke...
If Paxson ever ends up in front of me at Baskin-Robbins (let me try the chocolate chip, hmm, maybe the mint chip, no maybe the caramel…), I will cut to the front of the line.by Stay Chisel on Jun 5, 2008 9:26 AM PDT
by kidronmusic on Jun 6, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he just got it translated
and thought we wouldn’t notice.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on Jun 6, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually...
I hadn’t seen that. You’re right, it’s even funnier when you have to explain it. Thanks.
by peruvianidol on Jun 6, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doug Collins, we hardly knew ye... Oh, wait, I remember now, yes we did.
So, no Doug Collins. Okay. I can deal with that.
And I don’t particularly how this arduous coaching search makes us look in the national spotlight, becuase if we play well next season under the new coach, this will all be forgotten, and if we don’t then this will not matter, becuase we will be a bad basketball team. And that will be worse than just being bad at hiring coaches.
Besides this wouldn’t be that bad if it wasn’t for the media constantly speculating about who the new coach is, and then prematurely annoucing the coach’s for us. D’antoni was mostly our fault. But Pax and Jerry never actually said that Collins was our coach..
I like Brian Shaw or Tom Thibodeau. So let’s wait till after the finals.
by kidronmusic on Jun 6, 2008 4:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This process has been botched.
Whether or not the Bulls ultimately retain a qualified coach, the process employed by Paxson and Reinsdorf has been a case study in poor managment and caprice.
The coaching search has been a public fiasco which has further tarnished an organization that already had a reputation as being difficult and oppressive.
Moreover, the remaining candidates are completely unimpressive: Person, Casey, Corbin, Turner? That’s a laughable list. Sure, they COULD end up being great coaches, but there certainly isn’t any evidentiary basis to believe that is the probable outcome.
Good lord. And these same buffoons (Paxson and Reinsdorf) are responsible for determining how to utilize the Bulls’ number one draft pick. Is there any doubt that we won’t maximize the value of our position?
I used to think Paxson was a great GM. I can’t believe how inept and tentative he has seemingly become.
Maybe we’ll get lucky and we’ll still end up with the right coach and the best player in the draft.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on Jun 6, 2008 4:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
On the brighter side
We’ve all gotten to use and read the word “botched” a lot more than usual, and it’s a pretty funny word. It makes me want to go dig up the Hair Bear bunch on YouTube. Come to think of it, I may well spend my time doing that next year and just not buy the League Pass.
by Sports2 on Jun 6, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just to save you some time
The Hair Bear Bunch is on Boomerang, you can just DVR it.
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by snley on Jun 6, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It takes as long as it takes...
would be nice to get a coach with half a clue about how to get creative on offense, given that this team is like Bruce Springsteen: born to run. Why not try to snatch Nellie away from GS?
by Carlitro on Jun 6, 2008 4:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Someone at ESPN.com commented "Bulls fans get their wish"
Well, Mike D’Antoni isn’t coaching the Bulls, so no wish has been granted here.
It’s hard for me to get too emotionally involved in the coaching search at this point. For one, all of the available coaches are inexperienced and are huge question marks, although I no longer have 100% faith in Pax’s judgement that he’ll choose the right guy.
But the bigger point is, unless the coach they hire is just awful – it’s not going to matter. Whomever is hired right now will not be the coach when this team is ready to contend for a championship. Look around at the current coaching landscape – coaches last a few years, tops, in the same place. Would you have believed two years ago that D’Antoni and Avery Johnson would be pushed out of their jobs within two years?
I expect to be much more emotionally involved in the NEXT coaching search, when we’ll (hopefully) be looking for the guy who can lead us to the promised land.
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by Jivas on Jun 6, 2008 4:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Classic
This had now reached a level of hilarity that I never anticipated with Boylan’s firing.
Here's to the most exciting offseason in a VERY long time!
by wjb1492 on Jun 6, 2008 4:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you kinda had to see this coming after the intial leak...
if the bulls wanted him, they would have made an offer and stoped interviewing around. i mean, it’s like proposing to a woman and then dating other chicks to make sure the woman you going to marry is the right one. why any coach would want to work for the bulls is beyond me at this point.
by jocrucial on Jun 6, 2008 4:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Think about it,
They’ve made the fact that they have the number 1 pick a total non-story! If that’s not an incompetent organization than what is? There should be zero negativity around this team right now.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pretty easy to figure out what happened here
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/basketball/bulls/992575,collins060608.article
Collins was troubled by the perceived angst Bulls chairman Jerry Reinsdorf had in making the decision.
So Collins sees Reinsdorf diddling around, unable to make a decision while Paxson continues to interview other coaches and figures “Why the hell should I get back into coaching if they’re not even sure they want me?”
by Big D on Jun 6, 2008 5:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's no suprise that these bigger named coaches
like to be wooed a little bit. You can’t just dawdle around with guys like D’antoni and Collins, you have to show some excitement and show that he’s your guy 100%.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's true for pretty much anyone
Imagine if you go in for a job interview, the interview is going well, and at the end the boss says “Well, we think we like you and want to hire you, but we’re not quite sure, so we’re going to keep interviewing people. If we decide to hire you, we’ll let you know, but don’t expect a decision in any time frame.” Are you going to be excited about that job? Hell no, and if you have other options you might keep looking for a job. That’s what D’Antoni did, and Collins obviously figured that the Bulls job wasn’t worth the trouble.
by Big D on Jun 6, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, but a guy like Dwane Caesy will
put up with that cause people aren’t knocking down his door to hire him, but guys like Collins and D’antoni won’t
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Update
Selected season ticket holders in the 100 level just received emails from the Bulls inquiring about their availability to meet with John Paxson to talk about the coaching vacancy. My interview is scheduled for Tuesday at the Berto Center. Paxson will be talking to me between meetings with Dennis Hopson and the vendor who shouts “ICE CREAM” at ear breaking levels during Bulls games. What do I wear to this? Do I bring my resume? Any advice would be appreciated.
by Stay Chisel on Jun 6, 2008 5:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Take your clipboard,
and diagram 35 minutes of plays involving Ty playing near the rim and one or two last second plays that don’t involve BG dribbling.
Here's to the most exciting offseason in a VERY long time!
by wjb1492 on Jun 6, 2008 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ICE CREAM! dude deserves the job
He’s obviously a hard worker – I guess you have to scream at the top of your lungs in order to sell ice cream in the middle of a Chicago winter. Beer vendors don’t have to scream to sell beer, but that dude choose to take the tougher path.
by Big D on Jun 6, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO at the "ICE CREAM" allusion.
During the peak of the Bulls’ season in December and January, I hear that haunting cry in my sleep.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on Jun 6, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha. Man I hate that guy.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 6, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just remember the key words
Accountability
Defensive Commitment
Hustle
Process
Due Diligence
At the end of the interview, look longingly into Paxson’s eyes, thank him for the opportunity, and tell him, “I really feel we’ve made a connection here. It’s like I’ve known you all my life and we were just waiting for the stars to bring us together.”
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by snley on Jun 6, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least we aren't the players...
Lu has the org-speak down pat.
As far as the coaching search is concerned, Deng gave only a wry smile, admitting “I really trust the organization in making that choice. Whatever we go with, that’s what we’re going to go with, and we’ll all be in it together.”
I’ve changed my mind. Trade Kirk. Please. Anywhere.
Here's to the most exciting offseason in a VERY long time!
by wjb1492 on Jun 6, 2008 5:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
huh
Org fissures: Deng contract offer not a negotiation, then Skiles private talks with management about the team’s projections for the year, then firing Skiles, then promoting Boylan.
This is a tsunami of org failure.
by NBA Observer on Jun 6, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
'we' - me and my money
:: cue Lu and his agent hitting up the ESPN trade machine ::
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 6, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not excited about...
any of these people that are left….and saying that was anyone excited about the bulls hiring phil jackson back in 89….not to say the next guy will be a diamond in the rough …u never know….i just wish somebody will get hired!!! DAMN!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CHICAGO MANE!!!!
by YEP on Jun 6, 2008 5:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Larry Hughes may end up sitting after all!
This is the best news I’ve heard all day.
by YaoPau on Jun 6, 2008 5:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank God!!!
When are you going to do something good Pax?
by bull83 on Jun 6, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellence in Execution
I would like to nominate Gomer Pyle as the official mascott of this coaching search.
by ziffle on Jun 6, 2008 5:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I Just Heard
that Sister Mary Discipline, the JV Coach at Our Lady of Perpetual Misery, has been offered the job, In addition to wind sprints and extra free throw practice, the new coach believes in tithing and self-flagellation. Lets all congratulate the good Sister. Amen.
by Cannoli on Jun 6, 2008 6:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
AVERY! AVERY! AVERY!AVERY!
Please, this guy is by far the best choice. He would do so good at teaching Rose. I actually wanted him over D’antoni, but hey the Bulls will probebly hire some nameless guy who will do terrible.
by knickknack7450 on Jun 6, 2008 6:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
NO! NO! NO! NO!
The guy is getting way too much credit for essentially telling the Mavs, “Stop running so many plays it’s not what Jesus wants.” He’ll do fine in Detroit, let the Pistons hire him.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 6, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I kind of like the idea
I can just picture Avery telling Tyrus, “Not running the court makes baby Jesus cry”
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by snley on Jun 6, 2008 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Tyrus replies:
“Scream all you want, I’ll just get traded and become the next Shawn Kemp pre-cocaine, cheesburgers, and baby mommas.”
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 6, 2008 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pax has to be frustrated
Two coaches ready to be hired, and Jerry dawdled and pussed out on both. Dwayne Casey or Chuck Person now, maybe Jerry will ask them if they’d be willing to be co-coaches, maybe one per each half because Jerry just can’t make up his mind. The old man had too much wine.
Hopefully Doug comes on board officially as a consultant and boots Jim Paxson out of that role. Or maybe Jim Paxson has already been supplanted by Doug but remains on the ghost payroll.
I am just flabbergasted at this offseason. A unique combination of the serendipity of landing the #1 pick and the display of utter incompetence and indecision in the coaching hire.
by messwiththebull on Jun 6, 2008 7:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree, with that last statement especially
How the hell can an organization screw up such a lucky gift like landing the first pick? Since this search began it’s become more and more apparent as to how undeserving these idiots are of their good fortune.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Out of the coaching candidates still in the Finals....
I thing we should go with Thibedeu. Our roster is younger and quicker than the Celtics’ roster and his defensive style would serve us well. I never thought D’antoni was the right coach for the Bulls. His run-n-gun style would have been fun to watch but thats about it. (Witness the Suns.) As we all know: DEFENSE win championships. I believe this team is on an upswing, the Celtics are shining right now and very soon we too will shine again. We shouldn’t have gotten the #1 pick but we did. I truly believe that whoever the new coach turns out to be will take us to the next level. It is our destiny to return to greatness.
by JohnnyKilroy on Jun 6, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The old man had too much wine
Great Godfather reference….
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by Jivas on Jun 7, 2008 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that this has become a public relations nightmare
I hope they don’t panic and pick anyone. Since it can’t get worse than this let’s go all the way and wait to interview Thibodeau.
by chgobr on Jun 6, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Something is wrong with the Bulls, something is very wrong with the Chicago Press
Paxson is lost like a blindman in a shootout. And those Chicago newspaper… come on! Making things up to sell newspapers such as Collins case and Wade’s trade…
by JustAnotherFan on Jun 6, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i don't know what to think
the whole thing just gets weirder.
pax’s inactions, reinsdorf and his controlling ways, the leak that collins was going to be coach… it’s just incredibly screwed up.
pax may have some degree of ineptitude… but this just seems like it’s beyond his doing at this point. if it weren’t for the leak this wouldn’t have turned out like this. collins calling his “to-be” players before he even has the job… oh i don’t even know.
by Jaina on Jun 6, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
JustAnotherFan is right...
There is something with the Chicago Sun-times that is making this even more public about the collins leak and the wade thing.
by knickknack7450 on Jun 6, 2008 9:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Today just sucks
First Floyd retires, now this?!
BULLSHIT
by Option27 on Jun 6, 2008 9:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Reinsdorf's priorities show
So Jerry Reinsdorf cares more about his friendship with Collins than the future of the Chicago Bulls?
On Wisconsin!
by Looney_Bucky on Jun 6, 2008 10:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He's old and sentimental now, and gets cold easily
This decision had nothing to do with basketball. That’s the part that kills me. It wasn’t even about money. Jerry’s 72 years old and maybe he should pass some responsibilities to his son, Michael, who may spark this thing like Rocky Wirtz has done with the Hawks.
by messwiththebull on Jun 6, 2008 10:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
somebody bring Pop Pop
a blanket.
jesus effing christ the incompetence of the organization is mind boggling.
by Orlando Woolridge on Jun 6, 2008 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pop pop gets a treat?
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 7, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The mere fact that you call making love "Pop Pop" tells me that you're not ready.
They're gonna give daddy the Rain Man suite, you dig that?
by MarketMaker on Jun 7, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a mess...
Reinsdorf stressed that Collins reached Friday’s decision on his own, though he wouldn’t speculate on whether a formal offer would have been made.
No shit Jerry! He reached the decision on his own because you met his offer to coach with “Meeah?” Now I’m not saying I wanted Collins as the coach, but why let it get as far as it did with the media? This all just looks amateurish.
Pax hasn’t adapted since his initial plan failed. When he took the GM job, he knew exactly what he wanted to do: He fired Cartwright and installed Skiles in quick order. The team improved steadily until this year when all hell broke loose. He fired Skiles and stuck with Boylan. If he hasn’t been truly looking for a coach since Christmas, he’s either negligent or incompetent. To still be at this in June is a joke.
It’s like he broke up with his girlfriend when he fired Skiles. All his long term plans were in ruin and now he’s just sitting on the couch watching footage of the ‘93 Finals while “Only the Bulls!” plays in the background.
The only way this makes sense is if he really wants an assistant from Boston or LA, and he’s simply willing to wait for them. Even if that’s the case, why the flirtations with D’Antoni and Collins?
It’s really hard to believe in Pax throughout the last 6 months…
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by mdmnd9294 on Jun 6, 2008 10:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it is pretty obvious
that no matter what Paxson does Reinsdorf will easily undo. Reinsdorf will take the weekend like he’s done the last two times to undo it. What I don’t get is why this all gets out to the public. Behind the scenes stuff should happen behind the scenes. If they just just interviewed some people and picked one, even if it took this long, without all of the public naming and catch and release crap we would still be excited about the draft. Now we got two strikes and are looking pretty dumb.
by cranscape on Jun 6, 2008 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry obviously doesn't trust Pax much
Jerry Krause took a chance on counterculture hero, admitted LSD user, and prior CBA and Puerto Rican basketball coach in Phil Jackson, yet did Reinsdorf take 2 weeks to think about it? Did he have to think about it for weeks when Krause told him, “Let’s fire Doug, Phil is the guy who can take this team to the Finals.” Just stick the White Sox Jerry, they’re in 1st place, enjoy it and leave the Bulls alone.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 6, 2008 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Amateurish"
Bingo. +100.
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by Jivas on Jun 7, 2008 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you were Jerry Reinsdorf
and you were trying to get rid of Pax cheap, can you think of ANY possible better way to do it than this bs? With the exception of actually paying MJ the reward contracts that he so completely had earned, I’ve hated this guy since the first intro of him and Eichhorn. I’m fully expecting a future full of high draft picks getting “tarnished” images just about the time their rookie contracts come up for NBA-type money.
Anyone else notice that pattern? JR’s got the numero uno as his drawing card, and doesn’t need to spend one penny more to attain max sales. He can launch Pax and go cheap on a coach, and with the right spin, everyone’s going to buy in regardless of how obvious it is that it’s a shell game. Reminds me of Veeck, as in blechhhh.
by California Al on Jun 7, 2008 12:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds logical
Reinsdoft is playing a game, which he seems to enjoy. Paxson is the goat.
by exult463 on Jun 7, 2008 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either playing a game
or lost it completely. Like I said earlier, for those who keep bashing Pax, if Pax was in control, Mike D would be the coach, Rose would be the no-brainer, and all we’d have to argue about is who gets how many minutes of launching quick 3’s.
by California Al on Jun 7, 2008 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN: Vinny Del Negro is now the front-runner
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3430388
As Doug Collins stepped away from the Chicago Bulls’ unpredictable coaching search Friday, another surprise surfaced in this seven-week saga.NBA coaching sources told ESPN.com on Friday that Phoenix Suns assistant general manager Vinny Del Negro - despite possessing no bench experience - is getting serious consideration for the job that was widely presumed to be going to Collins for the second time.
Collins told The Chicago Tribune that he and Bulls chairman Jerry Reinsdorf mutually agreed that Collins’ name would be withdrawn from consideration. A week ago, Collins was seen as a lock to leave his post as a TNT analyst to return to Chicago, nearly 20 years after Reinsdorf fired him.
Del Negro, meanwhile, spent Thursday and Friday with the Bulls on an extended interview and was described by multiple sources close to the process as the new favorite, perhaps edging past former Minnesota Timberwolves coach Dwane Casey.
Sure, he has no coaching experience whatsoever – but hey, he had a great interview! Obviously the sign of a great coach is how many times they repeat the word “accountability.”
by Big D on Jun 7, 2008 2:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just a put on.....
I truly believe that the next Bulls coach will come from one of the Finals teams. Pax is just going through some filler interviews until the finals are over. ‘Vinnie Del Negro’? Come on!!! I think our best bet is defensive guru Tom Thibideu.
by JohnnyKilroy on Jun 7, 2008 7:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At this point, all that can really be said is "WTF."
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by Illini15 on Jun 7, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're gonna hire a motherfucking coach with NO experience?
Not as an NBA head coach, not as an NBA assistant, not as an assistant’s assistant, not as a college coach, not as a high school coach, not as fucking grade school coach, not as a coach of the Lovabulls, not as a coach of the towel boys, not even as a coach of a dynasty on Playstation. Nothing.
Really? Really, Pax?
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on Jun 7, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Might as well hire Pippen then
Hell, at least we know he’ll actually take the job, since he desperately needs the money. I always laughed when someone suggesting interviewing him, but he’s just as qualified as Del Negro is.
by Big D on Jun 7, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hearing "Vinny Del Negro" with "Bulls coach"...
makes me throw up a little in my mouth.
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by mdmnd9294 on Jun 9, 2008 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Truly sad
they’ve squandered all the momentum from getting the number one pick. And Jerry needs, frankly, to leave the process to Pax. Let the basketball man make the decision – God knows he finds them difficult enough. Jerry’s new mantra: sign check, shut mouth. Repeat as necessary.
What really bugs me is that we could have had Rose running D’Antoni’s break. Man alive. What bungling.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Jun 7, 2008 12:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's official who Pax and Reinsdorf really are
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 7, 2008 12:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
George Sr.: I don’t have time for your magic tricks.
Gob: Illusions, Dad! You don’t have time for my illusions!
They're gonna give daddy the Rain Man suite, you dig that?
by MarketMaker on Jun 7, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luckily for Pax
There’s always money in the banana stand.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 7, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to try to come up with a nice AD reference
but I think these will work nicely. Good work guys.
by potato0328 on Jun 7, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!
Jim Paxson is a certified analrapist.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 8, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tobias: Oh my god!!! We’re having a fire!!!!..sale.
Tobias: And, scene.
Roger Danish: Uhm. Do you want to try that a little…simpler?
Tobais: [considers for a second]..No.
They're gonna give daddy the Rain Man suite, you dig that?
by MarketMaker on Jun 8, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the Final Countdown...
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany." - Ron Burgundy
by mdmnd9294 on Jun 9, 2008 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently
the biggest requirement of the new coach is that they maintain a home within shouting distance of Jerry Reinsdorf’s home in Phoenix.
by Sports2 on Jun 7, 2008 6:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just give the man some love Pax
The Bulls have also yet to give an indication they are waiting for the NBA Finals to end to request permission to speak to Boston Celtics assistant coach Tom Thibodeau, as expected at the start of Chicago’s search.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 8, 2008 12:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And why not Flip while we're at it?
Even if you don’t like Flip, I don’t see why you would want him excluded from the Due Diligence Olympics.
by potato0328 on Jun 8, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just totally bizarre
as long as it’s gone on this long, why NOT wait for thibodeau? after all the “due diligence” they haven’t interviewed avery or flip (neither of whom i really want, but still), yet they are considering vinny del negro. this is truly wtf.
by Jaina on Jun 8, 2008 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
at this point there’s no reason not to wait for Thibs.
by Orlando Woolridge on Jun 9, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
norm
the next coach of the chicago bulls should be norm van leir
by FUTURE12 on Jun 8, 2008 11:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You would definitely need a succession plan...
Poor Norm would be so frustrated he’d quit or have a stroke by New Years Day. I mean, you can only say you’ll “put a foot in your ass” so many times…
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by mdmnd9294 on Jun 9, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From too slow to too hasty
in the blink of an eye. And didn’t we go from too fast (Dantoni) to too slow (Collins) just as quickly? All this change of pace reminds me of a certain point guard from Memphis….
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Jun 9, 2008 11:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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