Oh jeeeeeeez
Latest update of the never-ending coaching search:
WSCR-AM (670) reported first and the Sun-Times confirmed that Bulls chairman Jerry Reinsdorf wants to take as much time as he felt necessary to make sure he would be hiring Collins for the right reasons and not allow his close relationship with Collins to cloud this important decision.
Collins is said to understand Reinsdorf taking time to give the final OK. Collins, who at times has described Reinsdorf as being a father-figure, has made it clear to the Bulls and others that the only team he wants to coach is the Bulls. He has rebuffed overtures by the Phoenix Suns to become their next head coach.
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The Bulls are not believed to be interested in Saunders, though things could change if Reinsdorf rejects Collins at this late stage. Sources close to the situation still expect Reinsdorf to ultimately hire Collins.
Bulls general manager John Paxson is said to be spending his time this week — while waiting for Reinsdorf's decision on Collins — trying to determine which player to take with the top overall pick in the draft.
So frustrating.
The way this is worded jives with this report that Reinsdorf is the one who pursued Collins, not Paxson.
Just....ugh. I know there are worse owners out there, and an owner is completely entitled to be involved in the coaching carousel (the Pistons owner supposedly had a hand in Flip Saunders' undoing) ...but this just makes Paxson seem so impotent.
Maybe even Reinsdorf himself is starting to tire of 'Drew Diligence' (that's an alias Pax checks into hotels under) so he took the initiative and called up his old pal Collins to 'help a friend'. Or maybe Pax suggested a choice amongst the 647 assistant coaches he interviewed, but Reinsdorf didn't feel comfortable (especially after botching the D'Antoni pursuit) going with a rookie head coach.
Just hire Flip Saunders then.
Flip Fever hasn't caught on here completely, but I think that not only has his past successes (he's actually presided over an above-average offense) indicated that he's a better candidate than Collins, he's also without the 'will likely eventually freak out' baggage and the accompanying 'needs a succession plan' baggage.
But also, nearly as important (for selfish reasons, sure): nobody would have to deal with this Collins-Reinsdorf-Paxson-cominghome-bestpals.....crap. It's all just so much crap.
(Though maybe Paxson's tired of it all himself. There could be a possible out waiting for him.)
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hmm...
(i dont have a comment, i was just expressing my thinking sounds)
Tyrus Thomas
-"Million dollar talent, ten cent head."
by bulls*hit on Jun 3, 2008 9:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I must say...
that for as much shit as people like myself and others have given Pax, it’s beginning to appear more and more likely that Reinsdorf is constantly pulling the strings. Why doesn’t he just GM the team himself if he’s not going to let Pax make the decisions?
by Illini15 on Jun 3, 2008 9:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ick
This whole coaching search is getting annoying, but I’ll pass on Flip. Have you seen how confused he looks on the sidelines? Dude can’t make in game adjustments either. He came across as a coach that can be run by the players in Detroit, plus as an avid Pistons hater, I don’t want any of there leftovers (need i remind you of the BW experiment)
by seventytwo&ten on Jun 3, 2008 9:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Doug's technically a Pistons leftover
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 3, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really can't believe you're on the Flip Saunders bandwagon.
It’s. Flip. Saunders.
I’m not all for Collins either, but at least get behind a guy who knows how to make semi-competent adjustments during a live game.
by Illini15 on Jun 3, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bandwagon?
Flip doesn’t have a bandwagon, he rides the short bus!
by seventytwo&ten on Jun 3, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like Flip as a coach either
plus it looks like his head caught on fire and someone tried to put it out with a shovel.
let him do a year or two in the TNT League.
by Orlando Woolridge on Jun 3, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and for the third time.. neither to I
I can’t understand the hcsc and yfBB love here?
by exult463 on Jun 3, 2008 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought I explained all that...
He gives them what they’re used to looking at.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on Jun 3, 2008 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's more to coaching
then reading reactionary comments from fans game-to-game.
What were the big adjustments he was supposed to make? Amir Johnson for ‘Sheed? I actually think it’d be a nice change to see a coach to play his best players the most.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 3, 2008 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
think of it as only comparing him to Collins. It’ll make any love strong.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 3, 2008 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At this point, I just compare whoever we get to Boylan
As long as he’s better, that’s a small victory given the current state of Bulls management. Sadly, I’m serious.
by Illini15 on Jun 3, 2008 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't any of these Flip negatives
make you nervous?
This whole process is just making me hate Paxson more by the minute. Well, not hate…
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on Jun 3, 2008 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess?
all coaches have a tuning out factor, I think Collins’ is way more likely to have it happen than Saunders based on their areas of emphasis.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 3, 2008 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know what you mean
I don’t know what to hate more, Paxson’s constant hesitation and indecisiveness or Matt’s love fest for Flip Saunders :-p
Seriously though…nothing that Flip has ever done outweighs Collins that much to me. It’s like asking someone “which would you rather have, a papercut or an eyelash in your eye?” One is a little less annoying and irritating depending on who you ask I guess.
by NormVanBeer on Jun 3, 2008 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sh*t
I punt, maybe Pax will give Mike Ditka a ring
by seventytwo&ten on Jun 3, 2008 9:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that by far
the most interesting nugget of information from this post is that Paxson checked himself into hotels using the alias Drew Dilligence. EWWWW!
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 3, 2008 9:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i still don't get
all of the Flip love going on. It’s not like he’s had THAT much more success than Collins. And while he may not freak out, he will eventually get tuned out. So those cancel each other out. But I digress. At this point, I could completely care less. Just hire a friggin coach already. The whole process has already been botched to the point where it doesn’t even matter what they do from here on out.
by NormVanBeer on Jun 3, 2008 9:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he spent 10 seasons in Minnesota
forget tuned out, he’s the closest thing to Jerry Sloan.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 3, 2008 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN's Sheridan and his take on what happened to Flip in Detroit
[http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=sheridan_chris&page=PistonsfireSaunders-080603 Not a pretty picture..]
And I will now go and figure out how to do links in the new format…
2008 or bust.
by bullshooter on Jun 3, 2008 10:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
okay, shooter, that was basically the easiest thing ever
type in a word, such as “link”, highlight it, and then click the link button. once that opens, copy the address in there and click ok. voila!
by Illini15 on Jun 3, 2008 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
when were those heady days
when we ripped on that same roster because they acted like a bunch of entitled assholes? 13 months ago?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 3, 2008 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't people still rip on them for that?
they’ve acted like entitled assholes forever now, and ultimately it was their downfall. oh, what a shame…
by Illini15 on Jun 3, 2008 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
now it was Saunders fault he couldn’t prevent the 6th Rasheed Wallace season-ending blowup.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 3, 2008 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure Michael Curry will do better
No way will a rookie coach with only a year or two of experience as an assistant will have any problems getting respect from Rasheed Wallace and a veteran team like the Pistons.
by Big D on Jun 3, 2008 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah the trade Rasheed wind is blowing strong though
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by Ozzie Montana on Jun 3, 2008 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember them well
but they seem like a long time ago. Maybe basketball season are measured in dog years.
2008 or bust.
by bullshooter on Jun 3, 2008 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and after reading the article
Flip is the last guy this team needs. A guy that the Pistons didn’t respect? No thanks.
by Illini15 on Jun 3, 2008 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Pistons barely respect themselves
enough to put an effort out there. This is the Pistons we’re talking about.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 3, 2008 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right, the whole team is wrong
and Saunder the guy. I just don’t where the Saunders love is coming from, it’s weird. Are you related to him or dating his daughter or something?
2008 or bust.
by bullshooter on Jun 3, 2008 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
::chortle::
hilarious. who do you think I am, alec?
the whole team isn’t wrong, and Saunders isn’t wrong. They’re about as good as their conference finals finish.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 3, 2008 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
that was flagged. You’re oh so close to my arbitrary banning threshold.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 3, 2008 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well since you haven't really given a decent explanation why
I have to resort to humorous guesses as to where the spring of unrepentant Saunders Love comes from.
And it’s your world, anytime you don’t want me around you should do what you need to do.
2008 or bust.
by bullshooter on Jun 3, 2008 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, now you're just lying
but since you’ve admitted to rarely believing what you say, I assume you didn’t read much of the last Saunders thread. Some were interested in actually discussing the two coaches. I wouldn’t qualify what you’ve done as even a humorous guess.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 3, 2008 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait what?
the thread with 90 comments in it, a quarter of which were mine? I only read 83 of them so far. None of your reasons made much sense to me, but I guess that was just me. Not being Collins was the main thing I got, which usually isn’t strong enough to carry the day even here on BaB. There were some other things about pace and an allusion to “playing his best players,” which is a whole other can of worms.
2008 or bust.
by bullshooter on Jun 3, 2008 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
your retort seems to be
‘It’s what Paxson decided, so we should just live with it”, and your supporting evidence was tallying playoff runs. Which was exposed as weak. But maybe you were busy coming up with your next zinger.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 3, 2008 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
honestly
nobody has come up good enough arguments for or against either Collins or Saunders. All arguments I’ve seen for both have been weak. Everyone is pretty much building strawmen. I’ve yet to read anything concrete posted by anyone (myself included).
by NormVanBeer on Jun 3, 2008 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's coaching
I don’t know what that can be offered that’d be so convincing. Otherwise they wouldn’t be unemployed and/or championship-less.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 3, 2008 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
makes sense
but I guess I would feel better if one was just amazingly better than the other. Picking between two lackluster candidates is pretty pitiful and depressing.
by NormVanBeer on Jun 3, 2008 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd still rather have Thibodeau than either one of them
I was hoping that the whole “I’m taking my time” deal by Paxson was just so he could hire Thibodeau once Boston was eliminated from the playoffs.
by Big D on Jun 3, 2008 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it would've been nice to have seen an interview
Since we’re going through this endless search anyway.
Paxson probably thought he was giving himself time by declaring ‘no timetable’. But he was actually boxing himself in, since it just created a void to speculate what he was actually doing, and in crept the impatience.
If he said he was going to wait until the finals were over to get all possible assistants involved then it’d give him leeway to wait for Thibodeau.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 3, 2008 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought this explanation in particular
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 3, 2008 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this one
I admit, after looking…I was mostly nodding to what other people said more eloquently than myself.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 3, 2008 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or linking smarter people than myself
so, basically you’re full of crap.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 3, 2008 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me ask you a slightly different question then.
Do you honestly believe there’s a chance in hell that Paxson hires Flip? I don’t.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on Jun 3, 2008 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
(There's an "I" hidden behind that little puzzle piece.)
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on Jun 3, 2008 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if he's truly going through a process
sure. If it’s true that Collins is merely a Reindsorf-backed fallback plan, it’s even more likely.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 3, 2008 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gah, ya know what?
I’m sick of you consistently trolling people for biases instead of addressing what are (at their core) just opinions about a basketball team they want to see do better. And yes, especially when it pertains to me. This includes the most hated refrain of all: “chill out, we have no real control”. Because it’s a special lack of self-awareness to think that you’re the only one that gets this grand perspective, as if the rest of us don’t know we’re commenting on a sports blog.
It’s a practice that’s so fundamentally what I’m against when it comes to this site.
The constant contrarian-ism without offering your own opinion…admitting you poke at other users for amusement, admitting you sometimes don’t even believe what you’re saying. All of which would be acceptable if you actually contributed to the conversation in the meantime. Actual intelligent (or humorous, as you’ve suggested) analysis or speculation or opinions about the team, not just about other BaB commenters.
This likely says something about me too, but it really bothers me (again, within the scope of maintaining this website). It’ll only get worse when bigger decisions will be made with this team. And again, I truly feel that you don’t bring enough to the table to justify putting up with the rest. You haven’t shown the ability to contribute with enough quality to justify your attitude towards others. So long.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 3, 2008 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
by the way
I don’t want to read any celebrations over this expected eventual demise of bullshooter. It’s likely I don’t like either side when it comes to any ‘in-fighting’.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 3, 2008 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need a Chris Tucker like damnnnnnnn
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xwohf_5ofvc
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 4, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is.....
Ed Badger still available? He had to clean up Motta’s mess and as long as we can get Wilbur Holland to run the floor while Crash Mengelt cleans up the boards, we should be just fine. Now, it’s time for my medication, wake me up before Barney Miller comes on.
by chetwalkerssweatsocks on Jun 3, 2008 10:24 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Ed Badger?!?
My God – he sounds like a coach from a 1950s comic strip.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Jun 4, 2008 7:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't Know Badger???
Badger did a nice coaching job back in 76-77 when the Bulls were well under .500 and brought them back from the dead. They played Portland in the opening round and according to the ‘great’ Bill Walton, were the toughest opponent they faced in that year – in which they beat a Philly team let by Dr. J, George McGinnis, and Darryl Dawkins. However, his coaching style and manner of dress was a throwback to the 1950’s.
by chetwalkerssweatsocks on Jun 5, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Dumars will get a hankering for his former coach
and steal Collins away, while Jerry examines his soul. Dougie will be content to let the old guys walk it up the floor. And maybe the solution to managing Rasheed is to put his emotional counterpart on the bench. Fire with Fire.
I don’t think Flip is the next Red Auerbach. But, you have to try very hard to come up with a reason why Collins would be a better choice than Flip. Flip actually is creative both on offensive and defense. And there aren’t any leaders on the Bulls that he has to win over.
formerly sbulls
by Scotter on Jun 3, 2008 10:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My fear
is that Flip just won’t be able to get their attention.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on Jun 3, 2008 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He won games in Minnesota with Garnett and mostly crap over ten years.
Take a look at the rosters that won fifty games for Flip. Take a look at the level of journeymen crap that filled those roster. The rosters were such crap that losing Malik Sealy was a huge blow. Flip did have Garnett, but Collins had Jordan and Hill and Flip was winning before Garnett became a truly dominant player, and Flip didn’t flame out twice. Billups also finally became an effective player under Flip after struggling for three different teams.
formerly sbulls
by Scotter on Jun 3, 2008 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Joe Smith was one of their best players!
They had so little depth that they tried to cheat the salary cap just to resign him (and ended up having even less depth when their draft picks were taken away for several years). That’s how desperate they were – they threw a ridiculous (and illegal) contract at Joe Freakin’ Smith just because they couldn’t afford to lose him. Everyone always points out all the first round series those teams lost, but no one ever says which one of those series they were supposed to win.
by Big D on Jun 3, 2008 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do like your Billups point.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on Jun 3, 2008 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about Billups "Finally becoming effective"
He was Finals MVP in 2004. I’d say Flip helped maximize the output he got from Billups and Hamilton, while his biggest failure was not getting enough out of Rasheed.
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by Ozzie Montana on Jun 3, 2008 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was talking about when Flip coached him in Minnesota
by Big D on Jun 3, 2008 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah makes sense
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 3, 2008 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What the hell, do they have ADD?
Flip has made the playoffs 11 years in a row. He has made it as far as Mike D’Antoni has in the playoffs, he obviously knows a thing or two about coaching. He’s probably no better or worse than Collins, but I’m weary of the Flip bashing and Collins praise when only last week Collins was being heavily criticized.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 3, 2008 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"you have to try very hard to come up with a reason why Collins would be a better choice than Flip"
that’s how I feel as well. There are reasons to dislike both, and not being in the holy six of championship coaches brings mostly the same questions regarding all candidates.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 3, 2008 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
re: those questions
JT (Belmont, MA): Yeah, just what Phoenix needs – Flip Saunders. He is great at leading teams to the playoffs and making an exit before the Finals. Is this the NBA chat or am I in the dunce room?SportsNation John Hollinger: This is the part where I remind people that there are three active coaches with rings; two of them aren’t going anywhere and the other would be gone two weeks after you hired him. Every other team is coached by a “loser” if we use this definition as our standard of coaching success.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 4, 2008 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
btw
Hollinger (unsurprisingly) says Flip’s a better choice than Collins.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 4, 2008 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just curious...
“two of them aren’t going anywhere and the other would be gone two weeks after you hired him.”
Jackson
Riley
Poppavich
Which is the one that would ge gone two weeks after you hired him and why?
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Jun 4, 2008 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Riley quit a few weeks ago
Larry Brown is the third.
by Big D on Jun 4, 2008 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess it doesn't matter anyways
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/cs-080603-chicago-bulls-coach-search,0,5447865.story
In fact, there were unconfirmed signals the Bulls also might interview Jazz assistant Tyrone Corbin and Rockets assistant Elston Turner again. Turner, with 11 seasons of assistant coaching experience, would fit the profile mentioned in a Tribune report that said Paxson planned to interview a veteran coach whom nobody had identified.The Bulls aren’t believed to have much interest in Flip Saunders, whom Detroit fired on Tuesday. Sources said Pistons assistant Michael Curry, a candidate high on the Bulls’ list when this search began, would succeed Saunders in Detroit.
Screw Flip Saunders, hire Elston Turner! I guess most people here would rather have him, since unlike Flip Saunders, Elston Turner has never “choked” in the playoffs. Of course, that’s because no one ever thought of hiring the guy before, but why let details get in the way?
by Big D on Jun 3, 2008 10:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It really burns my ass
that Paxson premised this whole coaching search fiasco on being “open-minded” and suddenly a top level coach becomes available and the Bulls don’t even want to talk to him. What the hell.
I’m not even in the “Flip is the man” camp, but Pax has been looking for someone to come in with a workable plan for months now. There’s no harm in talking to the man.
by Sports2 on Jun 4, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get it.
So Saunders lost in the Eastern Conference finals with the 2nd best team in the Eastern Conference. Seems about right.
As for last year… I believe that was a combination of LeBron and Rasheed’s “time to kill my team’s season” clock going off.
by potato0328 on Jun 3, 2008 11:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What the hell is going on in here?
This Bulls news is a daily soap opera. Here is what I am going to believe: Paxson and Reinsdorf have the relationship that they have stated to the media. Paxson picks the candidates, and Reinsdorf has veto power, but otherwise lets Paxson make the call. I’m going with that because everything else is bizarro world material.
I’m not pushing Flip, but I don’t think the lack of respect issue will follow him here. He’s not replacing LB, a coach Sheed appearingly was in love with, nor is he replacing a coach who took a team to two consecutive finals. He’s replacing Jim Bleeping Boylan. Chicago would be a clean slate opportunity for him.
Saunders can coach offense, he can coach strong minded all-stars, superstars, and he can take you to point B. Isn’t that all we’re expecting out of Doug? And Saunders plays young guys, evidenced by Stuckey and even Amir this year, though I’m sure fans would have liked to see them play more. I remember when people said Flip wasn’t playing Darko, but then Darko got exposed.
Just get this over with before the weekend already,
by messwiththebull on Jun 3, 2008 11:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Man
IM waiting for july to come by, we will have picked our rookie, we will have heard some statement of whats going on with our rosters (trades and signings) we will have a coach, then all this stupid speculation and rumor stuff will cease….i hope.
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, Bullshooter, and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light....
by piccolomair on Jun 3, 2008 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah man
that’s when the Hinrich trade rumors begin, your worst nightmare :)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 3, 2008 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The trade rumors began
The day of the lottery,
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, Bullshooter, and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light....
by piccolomair on Jun 4, 2008 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
playing young guys
I think that’s a nod in Flip’s favor as well. He was able to get mid-round prospects in an established elite rotation. The old group of coaches couldn’t even figure out how to get blue-chippers to beat out Smith, Nocioni and Wallace.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 3, 2008 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Dumars ordered him to play them, though
It could just be that unlike the Bulls, the Pistons have a decisive GM who’s not afraid to tell the coach what to do.
by Big D on Jun 3, 2008 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
very good point.
man, we suck.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 3, 2008 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked indeed
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by Ozzie Montana on Jun 3, 2008 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reinsdorf should just put Paxson out of his misery.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on Jun 3, 2008 11:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Or Jerry can just shut the hell up
And worry more about keeping Ozzie partially sane.
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by Ozzie Montana on Jun 3, 2008 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry castrate's Paxson's authority
Then why would any coach take Paxson commands to play certain players?
I’m sure Skiles joked with Boylan about Paxs requests to play certain players:Tyrus!
Why is Paxson interviewing anybody anyway? Let alone, identifying potential candidates?
Thats Reinsdorf job, Paxson is given the responsibility of make the initial telephone call and setting up the interview.
Jerry probably also will select the 1st draft pick or decide to trade it?
If the Bulls get a percentage of the NBA jerseys sold for their player, then Rose will probably sell more jerseys and Reinsdorf will be happy.
So lame, or such lame management.
by exult463 on Jun 4, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha. They're just showing Steve Kerr
at the Cubs/Padres game.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on Jun 4, 2008 12:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Saw that too,
His kid was head to toe in Cubs gear too. 9 in a row baby!!!!!!!!
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 4, 2008 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My 2 Cents
I dont know enough about Collins to know if he can adjust to coaching a different game he has left. He seems to a be good defensive coach and if he can run some and still get the Bulls to execute in the half court and if as an organization the Bulls demand he stick to young players and teach them it can succeed. But thats a lot of ifs… I am not sure if its worth that many ifs…
Flip on the other hand can teach a variety of team concepts both defensively and offensively and keep a good substitution pattern like he did in Detroit and he can develop players like he did KG, Stuckey, Maxiel etc… He even won games with Wally as his 2nd star for a while. I dont care if you have KG thats tough. Here is what I dont like though.. In Boston KG has made Doc look like a genius so maybe Minny was more KG than Flip, and Detroit I think the organization is so strong and players developed because of the organization not Flip. So I am not sure he is good enough of a coach to warrant this team right now. All these assistants out there are too unproven, Avery is too weird for Paxon, Mark Jackson doesnt have experience Van Gundy wont leave his ESPN gig and he is not good young teams coach. I just want to know how come no one has mentioned Terry Porter, he was a good coach does any one know why he hasnt gotten offers yet? I just dont see a candidate out there thats good enough right now… We need something out of left field right now to make this right. This team has so much potential and a lucky number 1 pick.. So many options, so many ways to improve and even make big deals if needed to really be championship material. I think we can get there if not in one year, in two… Can we just hire Phil back…
by NamingRightsOnSale on Jun 4, 2008 3:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea that's exactly
what Paxson needs at this point, another candidate for the job to pop up. This coach thing has officially gotten stupid. I’m all for taking your time to hire the right guy, but at this point whoever they hire is just gonna leave me with a bad taste in my mouth. No matter who they hire, they’re gonna have a hard time convincing me that it is their ideal choice. The combo of Reinsdorf and Paxson have teamed up to make a total joke out of the entire coach hiring process.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 4, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chill
Id rather let them take their time and find the right coach..Theres no sense in rushing it..Thats how mistakes are made .Id feel better that they are taking there time…id feel worried if they did rush the process
by SK23 on Jun 4, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mistakes are also made by dawdling
If Paxson already knows who he wants, why not just make it official with the hiring? If Reinsdorf is holding him back because “he needs time to think”, then I’ll accept that the ineptitude goes all the way to the ownership. However, Pax’s lack of action over the past 2 years has really cost the team. Other GM’s are not afraid of telling the coaches “Play that damn rookie, I drafted him for a reason”, yet Pax was unwilling to do this for Tyrus, and Joakim only got minutes due to the trade of Corpse. If you’re applying to colleges, and you got into the school of your choice, what’s the freaking point of visiting every other school you applied to? It makes no sense for him to “not rush”, he’s had months to scout every coach. He knew Avery, D’Antoni, Flip would all be on precarious ground after this season if they didn’t make the Finals, he knew Carlisle was just waiting for someone to pick him up, yet he hemmed and hawed and now we’re stuck (yes, stuck) with either a retread or a novice assistant. Paxson and his due dilligence can kiss my bony old behind.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 4, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you!
You need to copy and paste that under the argument of anyone who trys to say that paxson is doing his “due dilligence” by taking this long. Enough already!
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 4, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rush the process?
You are aware that they fired Skiles in December right? Also that they have literally interviewed or considered every single possible candidate for an NBA head coaching job? Sorry, but your whole argument of “take your time to find the right coach” turned into a flaming pile of crap about a week ago.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 4, 2008 10:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Bulls are incredibly lucky
that they won that first pick. Had they not there would be daily columns regarding the ineptitude of this franchise. But since they won the first pick I think most columnists and bloggers are holding back a little, because they all can’t wait to write their glorious, “Derrick Rose comes home to save the franchise” columns. Imagine if this coach thing was going down while we had an Augustin/Westbrook debate.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 4, 2008 11:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You know
When I first skimmed/read the ploy for Flip, I was surprised…I haven’t been a big Flip fan, he like Avery was handed a great team and he didn’t seem to motivate them to get them over that hump. He also has done this in the past….
But then I thought about the alternatives at this point 1) Rookie Coaches 2) Doug Collins 3) Avery Johnson 4) Flip Saunders and I thought
Yeah given what we have, Flip’s success as a coach (avg almost 49 wins a yr—-which equals the most we’ve won in the 10 yrs post Jordan in 1 season, he’s avgd)....and I thought, well really if I were a coach, how could I handle the crazy Rasheed Wallace?
I couldn’t handle Wallace and his emotions, I don’t think even Phil Jackson’s zen like self would be able to calm Wallace down when the emotions rule over his talent/game….
So I thought, the fact that Saunders got this team to the ECF 3 straight yrs and 2 of those 3 yrs they saw some ‘Sheed meltdowns (1 of them, they faced a ridiculously hot Heat team that I don’t think anyone would have beaten in a 7 game series at that moment—-the Mavs were the better team the entire year, but the Heat were playing fabulous basketball the last 2 months of that season/post season…..and had the best stretch of them all).....
I think given the Sheed factor (coupled with the complaining of Rip) And the entitlement clauses that those good to great Pistons teams seem to play with a bit too much, that nobdoy could control them. It’s why Larry Brown left when he did, becasue I think even he saw the writing on that wall….and we all have seen how Big Ben has acted away from the Palace….i think the rest of those guys (Rip, Tayshawn, especially Sheed) have that same mentality, if not worse so…..I do like Sheed actually, though I’m glad he’s not on my team….and I would trade Deng and chump change for Tayshawn in a heartbeat… (Prince is one of the most underrated players in the game).
But anyway, yeah I think Saunders might be a great choice….I would be more eager to see him add the offensive fluidity to our team that we sorely lack. I think it was our awful drop in offense that negatively affected our defense….and while Flip has a reputation as a guy who focuses only on offense, those Pistons teams’s defense was as good as ever with Flip at the helm—and without the once great defender Big Ben Wallace….
So yeah I’d fully endorse Flip Saunders….Matt you converted me!
Now we just have to get Jerry R to think the same way.
by majoyenrac on Jun 4, 2008 11:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's great and all
except for the fact that the Bulls aren’t even gonna interview him. So, yea.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 4, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do we know that for a fact?
The Bulls were going to hire D’Antoni, and look what happened there….
The Bulls were going to win the Eastern Conference this year and look what happened there…
The Bulls were going to trade everyone for Kobe and look what happened there….
Doug Collins was going to remain a commentator, and look what may happen there…
Doug Collins was named headcoach by many reports last week and look what happened there…
There was supposed to be a press conference yesterday to make it all official and look what happened there….
We are suddenly reinterviewing folks again for 2nd and 3rd interviews, and yet we supposedly already have our guy…..
Stranger things have happened.
by majoyenrac on Jun 4, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bulls won the 2008 Lottery and got rights to the first pick, and now look what happened...
by exult463 on Jun 4, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Word on the
street is that Paxson is now using E Harmony to try and find the best coaching match.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 4, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He probably makes the candidates take those ink-blot tests
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 4, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stranger things have happened....
Now back to your other point: majoyenrac, your argument about Flip above is good. But the one point about Rasheed Wallace not being tamed by Phil Jackson, I would beg to differ.
I still think Rodman was the biggest head case in the NBA ever, and Phil basically dismantled the nut and channelled the leadership of MJ and Pip to allow Rodman to fall in line. It was masterfully executed. I can only imagine R. Wallace being half the challenge to Jackson.
by exult463 on Jun 4, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rodman didn't exactly "fall in line"
This was a guy who went to Vegas during the Utah series, spent time during the Finals promoting that stupid wrestling gig, and got suspended twice for idiotic reasons. The only difference was that he was not reprimanded for his actions the way the squeaky clean Spurs did. Jackson often just laughed at Rodman’s antics, but he still complained about his lack of focus at times. Phil was just smart enough to realize there was no need to make Rodman’s actions more of a story among the team.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 4, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The rule was basic
Rodman told Phil if I’m not performing in games then chew me out. I deserve it.
Phil copped to it. Seriously though, what coach goes around the locker room with burning sage and fans it in front the lockers of the players he thinks need some extra support that night?
Phil is a rare breed. What was his given tribal name? Swift Fox?
by NBA Observer on Jun 4, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But even Phil's not immune
the ‘04 Pistons title was partially giftwrapped by a completely combusted Laker team.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 4, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perfect storm of ineptitude for the Lakers
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 4, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Kupchak's bench of decrepits
but I think the inter-star bickering had a cause too
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 4, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the fact
That Shaq had started mailing it in. It took a trade to Miami to motivate him back into decent shape. Shaq got comfy after 3 titles and stopped doing the physical training needed to play 82 games plus play offs. It says volumes that Shaq quit on two Hall of Fame coaches.
"If you're not going to compete, then I'll dominate you." MJ
by Rankdog on Jun 5, 2008 2:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shaq wasn't even in good shape for the last of the 2 titles
He basically got himself ready for the playoffs during the season, and was in top form when the playoffs started. Remember his famous line? “I get hurt on company time, I will heal on company time.”
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by Ozzie Montana on Jun 5, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That denial was rather swift from the Bulls
Too swift.
by NBA Observer on Jun 4, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
where was the denial?
All I’ve read is KC’s report that they’re ‘not expected to have interest’ (or something similarly vague)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 4, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're correct
I’m carrying the water for KC before he carries it for the Bulls through the Tribune.
by NBA Observer on Jun 4, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My current preference (and this may change—even by the time I post it)
is the combo of Doug Collins and the Rifleman, Chuck Person.
Person’s been around some good coaches; plus, of all the "apprentices" mentioned, he’s the only one playing under a newly appointed, young head coach. While the other guys may see soon-to-open windows to get the head job right where they are, Person may have a long wait behind Reggie Theus.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on Jun 4, 2008 11:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
KC on the Score
And Mike North with the day off!
KC says he hasn’t heard that Flip is in play, but isn’t discounting it.
Thinks the organization, after losing out on D’Antoni and having the story leaked on Collins, will hire a ‘name’ coach (whether Collins or not) for P.R. reasons.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 4, 2008 1:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea, if they
hired a Chuck Person or Tyrone Corbin, they would get killed on the radio and in the papers. And I think justifiably so, this is a job for someone with some past head coaching experience. The combo of young players, young/first time head coach and high expectations is not a very good formula. Particularly in a large media market.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 4, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the media market doesn't matter
Fans want to see the team win, and usually pay to see it. Local media coverage is negative everywhere but Portland.
by hscs on Jun 4, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha!
I also don’t think people would get that turned off by a rookie coach, they’ve likely given up on this team already, or are excited by the pick. I don’t think ‘Doug Collins returns home’ drives season ticket sales much.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 4, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're wrong
the media market plays a large role in the expectations of the fans. Larger market=high expectations and vice versa. Obviously all fans want to see the team win, but when there’s more coverage of a team in a larger city there’s pressure to win coming from all over the place. Larger cuty means sellouts and season tickets, which means passionate fans that want results.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 4, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hiring a name coach definitely makes a statement.
Look at the Knicks for example. They just hired D’antoni, now imagine if they hired Mark Jackson. Expecations for the teams future are completely different. The team is going to be covered completely different by the media based on D’antoni alone
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 4, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Knicks could have hired anyone
The masses rightfully wanted Isiah out, and anything was probably an improvement. The D’Antoni hire created as many “huhs” as “yeahs.” Not that I can prove it, but MSM and blog reaction sure seemed mixed.
Fan expectations are the same everywhere. Having more traffic on the highway doesn’t change anything. I read the blogs, lived in a teeny town where fishing season is front page news, and deer season means businesses will be closed until noon. People fucking whine about the latest loss just like anywhere else.
by hscs on Jun 4, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah they want results
not necessarily name coaches. The results aren’t coming until next season.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 4, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So ok, at best the media market doesn't particularly matter
but that seems ancillary to the main point, which was that this doesn’t seem to be a job for a newbie given “The combo of young players, young/first time head coach and high expectations is not a very good formula. “
by Sports2 on Jun 4, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well it may require taking a chance
what has Paxson been doing in these interviews?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 4, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and really, how great a risk is a guy like Chuck Person?
He’s been in the nba his entire adult life, and on good coaching staffs for what, the last 13 years?
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on Jun 4, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's not insignificant
the difference between assistant to head coach is pretty large. I’m just saying that’s what these interviews are supposedly for, to try and figure out who can best handle it.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 4, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I completely agree
I am so tired of nitpicking every tiny potential fault of guys like Collins and Flip. We’re only able to do that because they’ve been in the public eye for so long.
Maybe Voltaire’s famous prescription applies: “Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t.”
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on Jun 4, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My guess
Is that he’s been waiting for someone to come in and say he’s got a plan and knows exactly what he wants to do, and that sounds somewhat credible. That is, he wants someone to do his job for him.
D’Antoni sounded like that, but they botched it.
No one else really has stuck out, so they’re thinking of falling back on an old standby and holding the hand of a new guy in waiting.
So I guess that’s the answer… the best guess is that the interviews are to figure out who can best handle it and Pax has walked away from all of them thinking none of the guys can handle it.
Flip a coin about whether he’s right or he’s just scared to death of making the wrong move.
by Sports2 on Jun 4, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course all fans whine,
but more fans whining means more pressure. So does that mean you think that the Royals operate the same way the Yankees do?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 4, 2008 2:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Plus it doesn't matter at all whether
Knicks fans liked the D’antoni hire or not, that’s totally besides the point. The point is that once he was hired EXPECTATIONS CHANGED. The difference between Mark Jackson and Mike D’antoni is expectations, that’s why we’re having this argument in the first place!
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 4, 2008 2:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
click reply
or don’t reply.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 4, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, I forgot to press the damn
reply, so kill me. Give me a break with all the hardcore rules and running around policing every little misstep someone makes on here. It’s a frickin’ Bulls blog and all this smug elitist crap is off-putting and unneccessary. Just like it was lame as hell when you booted that guy (bullshooter, I think) for writing things that you didn’t like. You should be happy that there are even people on here actually talking about the topics that you post.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 4, 2008 2:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
should've hit reply
for that one too.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 4, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is epic
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 4, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's kind of right, though
no need to shit on people if it’s an accident. it’s not like he’s tyrusmancrush (where’s he been lately?) and is continually botching his replies after he’s been reminded multiple times.
by Illini15 on Jun 4, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think its benneficial
It keeps everything organized, all your arguments make sense or are easier to reference. Say theres a big discussion and you dont reply but make your own post….your comments and oppinions might be left out because they are at the bottom of the page. So while everyone elses oppinions are being heard you are hidden, and the only people to read your oppinions will say the words “Hit the reply button” thus your oppinions will be lost, and sadly (hive mentality i suppose) peoples oppinions of you might be lowered just because of your inability to hit a simple button. I dont mean to be rude but i think i was explaining the reasons of why you really should hit the reply button. It helps everyone.
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, Bullshooter, and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light....
by piccolomair on Jun 4, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
every time you hit reply $5 gets donated to the Human Fund
by hscs on Jun 4, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and the BaBanned Memorial Wall
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 4, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just curious what the old, frothing at the mouth posters
are thinking about all this…PaxsonJackson, Colossus, JoeJoe…
any chance for a BaB amnesty day?
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Jun 4, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have to watch out for PaxsonJackson.
There are all of those PaxsonJackson posts waiting to be claimed with the new software.
formerly sbulls
by Scotter on Jun 4, 2008 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
jerry, I wasn't even being mean about it
or I didn’t think so.
It makes things MUCH easier to read. This also goes for ‘why certain fanposts get deleted’.
It’s one thing to admit ignorance or a mistake when using this software. But to say it’s not important because it’s just [whatever this is]...then go away.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 4, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally understand
the reason why there are rules and why reply is neccessarry. Perhaps I overreacted, but since I first visited this site, i’ve felt like every time I slipped up and made a little mistake someone is right there to jump down my throat. Anyway, like I said it was probably just my bad for taking it the wrong way.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 4, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's just because the amount of conversation has inreased exponentially in 2 weeks
I’ve been on this site since January, and the amount of comments can be a little crazy. Add the draft lottery win, and when you have to see threads like “Let’s trade for Jermaine O’Neal” pushing down relevant coaching-related or Beasley/Rose-related articles, it gets annoying. It seriously does make it so much easier when everyone just hits reply, you can grasp the entire conversation, and it prevents people from repeating stuff that’s already been said. When others are using this site just to piss people off for their own personal glee, it’s pretty annoying when the other 99% is just trying to talk Bulls basketball. I highly doubt anyone is trying to act like a dick through an anonymous Bulls blog, but sarcasm definitely gets lost when you’re reading something.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 4, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't agree more that
rules are needed in order for this place not to suck. But while some of those threads (O’ Neal trades etc.) do push the more topical stuff to the side, I think it’s good that people are jacked up about the Bulls and want to talk about different things. Cause even the off topic stuff can create good arguments and overall interest.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 4, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be all for
an infinite ad hoc thread off to the side.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on Jun 4, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
get some ad hoc friends
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 4, 2008 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i must say
the alec/yfbb interactions are easily the most unintentionally hilarious aspect of this site, now that bullshooter is dunzo
by Illini15 on Jun 4, 2008 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's not that bad
most of the stuff is common sense.
1) don’t repeat things that have already been posted
2) hit reply, so people can actually tell what you’re responding to
that said, i’m glad we aren’t flagging people for swearing, like those portland people – wtf?
by Jaina on Jun 4, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that the finals are starting tomorrow
and the Bulls still haven’t decided on a coach; i’ve heard that even if the Bulls make their decision they would not be able to announce it until the finals are over. Now, is that the case or can they announce it on days when the two teams aren’t playing? In other words, are we looking at a for sure week and a half to two weeks before we hear anything about the coach?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 4, 2008 8:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I've never heard of that
Any link for that information?
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by Ozzie Montana on Jun 4, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, not sure
where you can find info like that, but i’m positive that Stern put some sort of ban on announcements like that to keep the national spotlight squarely on the finals. I just wasn’t sure if it only applies to game days.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 4, 2008 9:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lol I don't think anyone will call you out on it again
That does make sense, but it’s a little dictator-esque by Stern.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 4, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB has a policy to keep things quiet during the World Series
I don’t think the NBA has a similar policy. I’m sure if it did, all of the writers would be mentioning that the Bulls’s search for a coach wouldn’t be officially over until after the Finals instead of indicating it could be over this coming weekend.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
by snley on Jun 5, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fast as a snail...
So… it will take another eternity to Pax make decision. Just like he thought too much to go for Gasol and for Garnet and for Kobe… Come on Pax, just decide the damn coach so you can decide the damn pick and the damn trades the Bulls will have to make before the season begins!!! Urgency man!
by JustAnotherFan on Jun 4, 2008 10:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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