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Draft post-mortem: 2nd round happens, Bulls still have Derrick Rose

They drafted Sonny Weems at #39, but word from the comments section is that ComcastSportsNet reports that Paxson is swapping that pick somewhere for some foreign player to be named later. [UPDATE: It's Omer Asik.]

Whatever.

Bulls draft grade is A++++++++++

They have their point guard and leader for the future. And despite Pax's insistence on soft-pedaling (almost to turd-in-punchbowl levels), I'll consider him the point guard and leader of the present, too.

Not much to add. This pick was assumed weeks ago, so we've already been pretty immersed in the 'next step'. There was a chance that some of the roster would be changed over on draft night, but not much of one. The real fun on that front will begin in July.

There's still a very long and complicated way to go. For now, I'm just happy to have seen the night the Bulls drafted Derrick Rose. And it still seems unbelievable.

(By the way, how unexpected was it that all the Beasley trade talk was Riley bullshit all along? )

 

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heh

live on comcast: Kirk Hinrich blooper reel.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 26, 2008 11:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You know

Im really trying hard to become a fan of d. rose, but it seems everytime i hear of rose being drafted, on tv, at work, among my friends, or on this blog, it is coupled with hinrich hate….and thats putting me down more then making me happy…..ehh not really expecting anyone to care….im just saying….

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, Bullshooter, and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light....

by piccolomair on Jun 26, 2008 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gordon could move just as much as Kirk

So keep your head up, you and sue just may have time to complete your shrine o’ Kirk.

by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh im a fan but not delusional

I can see hinrich staying for a year, if im lucky two, but if rose pans out how everyone is sure he will, hinrich has gotta be gone by years 3 for roses contract extension. My consolation prize is actually the banishment of Gordon, it wouldnt be fair to a hinrich fan if gordon wins the great hinrich v gordon debate by default here in chicago.

Umm…depending on how things go in the next month or so, expect utter silence with occasional 12 paragraph (to remember the great white american pg) in any order from me.

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, Bullshooter, and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light....

by piccolomair on Jun 26, 2008 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeesh, just be a Bulls fan

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 27, 2008 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Cant Idolize a Team Matt

.....

alright i wrote a little rant here, and deleted it cuz its a little too early to be so dramatic in my writing especially since hinrich isnt gone yet, and i have yet to see d. rose play. Um….GO Bulls!! (:-/)

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, Bullshooter, and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light....

by piccolomair on Jun 27, 2008 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well that's fine

but don’t expect the media and Bulls fans to idolize a player. Except Derrick Rose, of course!

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 27, 2008 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hang in there Pic.

No one knows for sure what will happen. In Pax’s press conference last night he was asked about the log jam in the back court and he said he could see Kirk and Rose in the back court and then said he could see BG and Rose too and then added Thabo to that list and as an after thought included Hughes. Here’s something you might be interested in -

http://www.theconverseblog.com:80/2008/06/converse-blogs-weapon-wednesday-kirk.html

by sue369 on Jun 27, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the best part about that Pax quote

was that he went over every guard saying how they can fit with Rose, and at the very end added “we also have Larry Hughes”.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 27, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait are those shoes for sale

Or are they fan made?

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, Bullshooter, and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light....

by piccolomair on Jun 27, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh i found out

Player exclusive shoes….Hinrich really needs to pull a ben wallace….

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, Bullshooter, and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light....

by piccolomair on Jun 28, 2008 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry.

I thought they were cool though.

by sue369 on Jun 29, 2008 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

VIVA EL BULLSHOOTER!!!!!!

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, Bullshooter, and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light....

by piccolomair on Jun 27, 2008 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

who?

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 27, 2008 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I heard actually that

New Orleans sold their draft pick for cash to try to make a run at Gordon this offseason…..

I wonder….unfortunately I don’t think a trade of Gordon-Nocioni-Thomas for West works for the Hornets….

by majoyenrac on Jun 27, 2008 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw that, too

BG would fit nicely on that roster as an outside gunner. The Bulls might have some competition for Gordon this summer.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on Jun 27, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they're not under the cap, so it's not much of a competition

and I can’t believe the Hornets are contemplating a midget backcourt!

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 27, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not even making a first round pick, selling it for cash

doesn’t help them? good.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on Jun 27, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they're not trying to get under the cap, but stay under the luxury tax

so selling the pick helps them a bit, but not enough for Ben Gordon money.

They don’t have much to trade either. I’d think any possible scenario where they get Gordon would involve a third team taking Peja.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 27, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's one-dimensional, like Gordon

so what’s the difference :)

Maybe Pargo will reunite with Skiles too…I’m very excited to see how much Skiles wants to get ‘the band’ back together.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 27, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rotting on the Suns bench

I’m sure they can have him for some cash.

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by snley on Jun 27, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why not

Thats what the bulls (according to blogabull) are contemplating, and another thing:

cp3/bg7 >d.rose/b.gordon

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, Bullshooter, and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light....

by piccolomair on Jun 27, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was being sarcastic.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 27, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ooops..

umm so was i??? ......

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, Bullshooter, and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light....

by piccolomair on Jun 27, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point, Piccolo

and to tell the truth, I have a feeling they’re going to end up backcourt mates. I don’t feel that would be the best combination of guards, but I think it’s what we’re going to get.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Jun 27, 2008 7:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the Euro big man...

The two we’re talking about on here are Asik and Pekovic—and those were the only two that Hollinger would have recommended, after Galinarri, using his draft rater. He said Pekovic would have been third on his board if not for the contracts. Both project damn well.

The first is Omer Asik, a Turkish center who played for Fenerbahce Ulker in Istanbul this past season. In 279 Euroleague minutes - granted, a smallish sample - his performance projects to 12.2 points and 13.5 boards per 40 minutes, with 52.3 percent shooting and a 15.23 PER. He blocks shots, too, setting a Euroleague Round of 16 record for rejections this year.

He’s 22, 7-feet tall with a decent frame and relatively new to the game and still improving. So what’s the hang-up? Apparently he signed a five-year deal to stay in Turkey with no buyout, meaning he might not play in the NBA for a long time. That would be a shame. I have little doubt that Asik should be a lottery pick, but the contract issue may leave him as a mid-second rounder.

The second is Nikola Pekovic, a 22-year-old Montenegrin with a similar contract problem. Pekovic was little-known 12 months ago but absolutely dominated in the Euroleague this year.

My numbers from 2008 suggest he could start for most NBA teams tomorrow -

18.3 points and 12.0 boards per 40 minutes, with 51.4 percent shooting and a 17.09 PER.
I take this with a bit of a grain of salt, because his numbers from 2007 were terrible, but only a bit - if it weren’t for contracts I’d have him rated third on my board. Yes, third.

Unfortunately, you won’t be hearing his name until much later. Pekovic signed a big-money deal with Panathinaikos in Athens - reportedly for 4.5 million euros, which at the current exchange rate is about 300 billion dollars - making it all but impossible for an NBA team to sign him under the rookie salary scale. As a result, he seems pegged for the early part of the second round. Nonetheless, if I’m the Timberwolves I take this guy at No. 31 before Adam Silver gets to the podium.

They’re both 22 and would be ready to contribute in a couple of years. Both were also drafted in the second round meaning the Bulls could pay them whatever they wanted to bring them over—not being relegated to the rookie scale of the 1st round. If it’s either of these guys, that’s not a bad project.

And yes, still having Derrick Rose at the end of the night is pretty awesome.
(nice tag, too)

by tyger1147 on Jun 26, 2008 11:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I read on realgm it was Asik

I’ll create a separate thread for all things him when it’s official. Then I’ll re-link it when NBAO is running the site in 2012

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 26, 2008 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Comcast just said Asik

It’s not Pekovic, but… woo hoo!

by YaoPau on Jun 27, 2008 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

now the bulls have a guy whos name (and religion???) resemble mine…woot woot!!!

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, Bullshooter, and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light....

by piccolomair on Jun 27, 2008 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pax seemed pretty jacked up about this Asik guy.

And on Chad Ford’s draft review he said he could be the steal of the second round. Also that John Hollinger thinks his numbers were top 10 worthy, pretty high praise.

by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 27, 2008 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OFFICIAL OMER ASIK THREAD

Here. Dump all your Asik knowledge.

Quickly before this Rose post smells like kebab

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 27, 2008 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This 5 year contract might be just speculation

I’ve seen on a couple pages that his contract extends just two more years. Here’s one source.

It’s possible he signed a three year extension with no buyout, and that would suck, but it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense for a player in his situation that worked out for NBA scouts. Until I see hard evidence against it, I expect to see him in a Bulls uniform for the 2010 season.

by YaoPau on Jun 27, 2008 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

btw I shouldn't crap on Riley too much

Chad Ford points out that this provides the old ‘chip on the shoulder’ motivation for Beasley. Well if he needed it in the first place…

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 27, 2008 12:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Isn't Riley the guy

with the notoriously killer workouts to start the season off? If Beasley can manage to get through that mental game then the rest should be easy. I’m not saying he isn’t fit, but you have to have a good attitude to get through ridiculous stuff like that.

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by cranscape on Jun 27, 2008 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really believe he'll be fine - he's got a great attitude on the court and works hard.

I guess I’ll have to learn to like the Heat, since they now have Beas and Mario. That could be tough.

If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.

by wjb1492 on Jun 27, 2008 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

riley seemed pretty bummed after they took beasley...

i think the “higher-ups” sat him down and put their foot down on taking Beasley. Riley has questions about Beasley, but even he realized that he had to take Beasley at 2.

I would think they want to move Marion. It would give them cap space, and I’m not sure about that they like having two big-time forwards. I could see them trading Marion for a point guard. Either way – they’re gonna be pretty good next year. With wade and beasley alone, they sound tough.

by swede2287 on Jun 27, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So can we assume that the 2 most important players on the Heat

Riley didn’t even want until his scouts and partners convinced him?

by Ozzie Montana on Jun 27, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why not

The Bulls are pretty bizarre.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 27, 2008 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How could they possibly justify that?

It’s not like this is a championship team. That would just be lame as hell.

by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 27, 2008 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think there is a very good chance

when you consider the fact that ,unless Gordon refuses to accept a contract, none of the guards are going nowhere.
I doubt Pax will make a move

by Edicus2288i on Jun 27, 2008 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know he's waiting for the RFA's to clear up...

...but Sam Smith thinks they’ll work hard to negotiate w/ Gordon to sign him on July 9th (as soon as allowed). If that happens, he’ll definitely be working the phones to move Hinrich and Hughes. Then, if/when Deng is signed, Nocioni will be going.

I’m totally making stuff up here, but Paxson wanting to re-sign Gordon so fast tells me who has a vision for this team now. Rose, Deng, Thomas and Noah will all be guys who are efficient but not high-volume scorers than will play both sides of the ball. He’ll need at least one guy that’s a true “superstar” in terms of scoring. That’s Gordon.

by tyger1147 on Jun 27, 2008 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really hope we don't offer

Gordon 5 yr/50 mil again.
His fault he didn’t take it last year.
And he did not show us this year that he deserves that money.
If Pax offers him that much, it just goes to prove that Pax has a problem with loyalty to our players. There is no way Gordon is worth that money

by Edicus2288i on Jun 27, 2008 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you honestly think Gordon

is worth that?

He’s a one dimensional sixth man. He can score and that’s all. And he doesn’t he even do that consistently.
He made a bone head move by not accepting that contract last year. There is nobody out there who’s going to throw big money at him anyway, cuz a) Nobody wants to spend that much on a one dimensional player and b) no one is willing to use their cap space.

by Edicus2288i on Jun 27, 2008 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Gordon is one dimensional

is Hinrich zero dimensional?

And even if he is one-dimensional, at least that dimension is the most important in the game.

by JeffD on Jun 27, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never understand the vitriol towards Gordon and Deng for turning down extensions

Hinrich got 5 years and $48.75m. Deng and Gordon get offered contracts that are only 2.5% more money, and they’re criticized for turning it down?

If Gordon didn’t prove he was worth money he didn’t accept, then Hinrich’s basically stealing. I don’t think either’s the case, but I’m saying it’s not fair to single him out.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 27, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The noch contract

Really is the poisen, i dont think there would be as big as a problem if the noch contract didnt take place. Hinrichs contract isnt overly huge, and bg and deng wouldve recieved more money even if they accepted.

I personally wonder how much ben gordon can actually improve, and i wonder if luol deng will ever be able to show up in the 4th quarter, and hinrich probably is never gonna be an all star. I really dont think overall any one of the three was heads above the other, as its been said gordon and deng however probably did more of the important thing in basketball, score, while hinrich especially in this past season had long stretches of bench time, either due to being pulled for no reason, or pulled due to foul trouble, and the hideous hinrich blooper, coupled with the entire teams scoring woes really painted a worse picture for the core then really was.

I think ben gordon and luol deng demanding 60 mil for 5 years is kind of crazy, cuz i think thats all star money, and neither of those two are gonna be all stars.

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, Bullshooter, and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light....

by piccolomair on Jun 27, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just keep in mind how young both BG and Deng are

While it’s easy to assume both have reached their ceiling, they still have a couple seasons to go before hitting their probable peaks. Comparing them to Kirk doesn’t quite work, as Kirk just finished his first year on his extension and was already past his likely peak season.

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by snley on Jun 27, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you also have to look at

how hard Gordon and Deng work on their games.

I can’t say for sure that Kirk’s not working just as hard, but I never see anything about where Kirk’s working out, or what he’s working on. The same thing with Hughes. No word ever on what he’s doning to improve his game in the offseason.

It’s almost as though these guys feel like they’re pros and they’ve got their big contracts to prove it…and all they have to do is come in when camp opens and play.

That is definitley not Deng’s and Gordon’s m.o.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on Jun 27, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still don't understand Hinrich's skinny arms...

...combined in lack of improvement w/ any single aspect of his game. Hell, even Luol Deng is getting slightly bigger biceps (as if that’s all that matters, but it’s at least an indicator that he’s lifting weights). Hinrich should be at least 10 pounds heavier right now. He should have realized his game was “below the rim” by the end of his 2nd year. The only way being that skinny helps is if you’re running around all the time like Reggie Miller or Rip Hamilton, or you’re pushing the ball all the time and neither of those are things that Hinrich (or the Bulls) have done as part of the game plan.

I still like Hinrich, and I think he’s an above-average PG, but he was as responsible for the poor play (and thus the No. 1 draft pick) as anyone last season. He a had a few good games, no great games and whoooooole lot of bad ones. I’ve been a fan of his forever, but reality hits hard. He needs to come back to his old ways to not just be considered a “contract”.

by tyger1147 on Jun 27, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should have added to my above comment...

nor is it Tyrus’ m.o.

By all acounts, he works as hard as any of them…and I think that some of the positive feedback he’s been getting from Paxson recently is an acknowledgement that Paxson recognizes Tyrus’ commitment.

I think the same can be said about Thabo.

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by alec on Jun 27, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought he did bulk up a bit

before last season.

KC’s latest version of the Rose workout story had Hinrich at the berto center too.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 27, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I missed that...good for Kirk.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on Jun 27, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did anyone think Tyrus Thomas would barely play last season?

I’m pretty sure no one would have thought that a year ago. Never underestimate the stupidity of this franchise.

by Big D on Jun 27, 2008 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Howzit going? Everybody happy?

I remember from last year how great we felt in Blazerland on draft night. Anyway good wishes to ya. Rose looks like a hellava player. Congrats

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by 92wastheyear on Jun 27, 2008 12:13 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

It’s actually feels even better cos we had 1.70% of winning the lottery.

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by Azabullsfan on Jun 27, 2008 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quote from year old Sakamoto story about Rose

“I already know what a player is going to do before that player does it. That gives you a whole different perspective on the game. I guess that’s how i get so many assists.”

...remind you of anyone, BaB’ers?

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/cs-080626-derrick-rose-mr-basketball-chicago,1,2261435.story?page=2

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on Jun 27, 2008 12:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

NBAO??

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, Bullshooter, and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light....

by piccolomair on Jun 27, 2008 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 27, 2008 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

that’s good fun.

by swede2287 on Jun 27, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

eh thats exactly what it was...

So i apologize to nbao and hope he doesnt take it personally or anything…if it makes things fair, he is allowed one free hinrich insult (or something…)

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, Bullshooter, and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light....

by piccolomair on Jun 27, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

John Hollinger did a pre draft report

on the euros coming over this year and here’s what he had to say about our guy Omer :

“Actually, there are two other foreign players that I think might be better than Gallinari, and both are in this draft. Unfortunately, contracts may get in the way of either ever coming to the NBA.

The first is Omer Asik, a Turkish center who played for Fenerbahce Ulker in Istanbul this past season. In 279 Euroleague minutes - granted, a smallish sample - his performance projects to 12.2 points and 13.5 boards per 40 minutes, with 52.3 percent shooting and a 15.23 PER. He blocks shots, too, setting a Euroleague Round of 16 record for rejections this year.

He’s 22, 7-feet tall with a decent frame and relatively new to the game and still improving. So what’s the hang-up? Apparently he signed a five-year deal to stay in Turkey with no buyout, meaning he might not play in the NBA for a long time. That would be a shame. I have little doubt that Asik should be a lottery pick, but the contract issue may leave him as a mid-second rounder.”

by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 27, 2008 12:37 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pooh is our choice

"There is no 'i' in team, but there is in win."

--23

by Orlando Woolridge on Jun 27, 2008 12:48 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Meanwhile, in other news....

....Minnesota GM Kevin McHale and Memphis GM Chris Wallace swapped Love and Mayo.

See, there is justice.

by BullsFanInSeattle on Jun 27, 2008 12:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not really a surprise

If they didn’t make those offers, they wouldn’t have the power to match offers from other teams when free agency begins, and they had to be made by June 30th.

by Ozzie Montana on Jun 27, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

gotta vent

If i hear one more person say Rose is “Jason Kidd with a jumper.” I’m gonna drive into on coming traffic. I think Bilas was the first person to say it and then I hear it 20 more times by other ESPN personalities, fing Obama, and then 10k dbags on 20 different message boards. MOTHER OF GOD!!!!!

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by louisiana lumberman on Jun 27, 2008 1:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I really can't stand Pax being so blunt

About Derrick coming in and being careful with him.

Throw him into the fire! He wants to be there from day one.

by Option27 on Jun 27, 2008 1:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Every other basketball

program he’s been in he has gone to the top. Why coddle him here? Seems to me like he does well with responsibility. At least well enough that we don’t need all of this babysitting talk from Pax. Give him goals he can reach but the starting position from the start should be no question.

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by cranscape on Jun 27, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right. He was made the starting PG in Memphis.

Supposedly, he was quiet at first and grew into the leadership role (I think, according to either Dorsey or CD-R). And of course, that’s a huge reason why he’s in Chi-town. Extending that logic…...

by tyger1147 on Jun 27, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you catch that comment Paxson made

about interviewing Dorsey about Rose?

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on Jun 27, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

didn't see that

are we sure it wasn’t an interview for the head coaching job?

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 27, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When Pax said he talked to Dorsey

I immediatley thought of Dorsey’s pronouncement about his sources high up telling him that the Bulls were going to select Beasley.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on Jun 27, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh yeah

completely forgot about that. Pax planting his own misinformation?

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 27, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's on your full press con link

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by alec on Jun 27, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WOW

I dont know man.. I like this guy… He is a winner.. I am so glad we didnt do something stupid and made the right choice… He just seems like a NBA championship winning PG.. I think we are so much closer to winning a championship. Look at what CP3 did for NO I think this guy can have that kind of game if not better cause he has the size. CP skills with Williams size and athletic ability better than both put together. Deng better than any one on the NO roster. We had Chandler, we know NOAH and TY T are way better and D west is just a 15 foot jump shooter. We got a lot of those. Gordon or Hinrich better than MO Pete and Thabo to boot. Noccioni overpaid but productive if his role is limited. oh as paxson said and we have larry hughes LOL

by NamingRightsOnSale on Jun 27, 2008 11:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Frome a Blazer fan to all you Bulls fans

I apologize for any “Blazer fans” who have been rude, crude, or obnoxious. We’re generally friendly folk (see: Mortimer, Dave, Ben, tominhawaii, annthefan), but a few beeps slip through the cracks and raise havoc. They’re just bandwagon fans. A lot of the guys who came in here and stirred up the pot are new to the Bedge, and really don’t have room to be talking.

Hope Rose turns out well for you! Good luck with Omer Asik!

"Beards--they grow on you"

by prezofdeath on Jun 30, 2008 12:12 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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