Bulls select Derrick Rose
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John Paxson, almost immediately, ruins awesome moment by saying Rose will have to 'earn' his way.
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Nah
even Pax-speak couldn’t ruin this one. This is just sweet.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
I was being a bit dramatic
of course he didn’t ruin it. It’s such a great day :-D
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 26, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't worry Matt
I thought something similar when I heard Pax’s comment!
But yeah…this is a “happy happy joy joy!” day, no question!
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Derrick Rose chat on espn.com now
Hernan (FL): Hi, Derrick. Which one of your new bulls teammate do you look more forward to practice with?
Derrick Rose: Tyrus Thomas. He’s used to playing the typ of game tha tI play – the uptempo game.
Classic Pax. What do you expect, though? Ha!
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Rose
BTizzle (AZ): Rose, do you think there will be some competitiion between you and Kirk?
Derrick Rose: I don’t think so.
hahaha
ha!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 26, 2008 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Taken from espn.com's draft coverage
http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/nbadraft/draftCast/index
Hernan (FL): Hi, Derrick. Which one of your new bulls teammate do you look more forward to practice with?
Derrick Rose: Tyrus Thomas. He’s used to playing the typ of game tha tI play – the uptempo game.
Gavin (San Diego): Derrick, huge fan…what strenghts for bulls and areas you can still improve?
Derrick Rose: Defensively, we can get better at. Of course, offensively.
gmoney (New Jersey): Rose how does it feel to be put into the role of revivng a storied franchise like Chicago?
Derrick Rose: I’m put in a perfect situation so that when it does happen, the biggest thing is just getting into the city.
christian (New York): hey derrick, who are you looking foward to guard in the NBA.
Derrick Rose: All of them, becuase I’m going to have to guard them.
Derrick Rose: I love all the fans. I hope you keep on supporting me.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
Sorry, not sure what happened w/ the blockquotes, everything's from the chat
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
So, to recap
The Bulls can get better defensively. And offensively.
Alrighty then.
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yeah LOL
whenever I hear Pax Speak i try to tune it out
"There is no 'i' in team, but there is in win."
--23
by Orlando Woolridge on Jun 26, 2008 8:02 PM CDT reply actions
We can translate it into normal speech
“He’s obviously going to have to earn his playing time.”
Translation:
“I like him better than our current players, but don’t want to get too excited, and hitch my fate as GM to his fate as PG. “
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
Derrick Rose is an interesting guy...
Is it me or does he not have much going on upstairs? I know Beasley has looney tunes, but Rose just has static.
It's just you.
He’s obviously a quiet guy. and seems somewhat unsure in front of the camera. W/ time, he’ll be fine.
Everyone said he was a leader.
He did say he’s worked on being more vocal. I don’t think he’ll be a vocal leader right off the bat. Hopefully, that’s the biggest thing VdN works w/ him.
Yeah and it's not like can be this swashbuckling leader right off the bat
The guy’s a rookie on a team of mostly hardworking guys. It shouldn’t take huge motivational speeches to get them going in the right direction again. As long as Del Negro reminds him that he was the 1st pick and should assert himself as one on the court, he’ll be fine.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
We hired a basketball player
not an inspirational speaker. He is 19. He will learn how to be more comfortable with the press and have some things ready to pull out and say. If that is all he ever does in that area I don’t care. His basketball is all I care about. It isn’t like any of the questions these players get inspire high IQ answers anyway.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
I don't like anyone left in the draft.
slim pickings
I really like Darrell Arthur
Maybe not for the Bulls, but I like him quite a bit as a player.
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IMO, you really can't go with *all* kids
While I may think that Arthur will be as good as Gooden in three years, there’s no way I’d want Arthur as a 3rd or 4th big behind Noah and Thomas. I’d prefer a Joe Smith-type to help develop the team by pushing them towards victories, and someone whose development won’t be stunted by playing limited and inconsistent minutes.
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I think what bugs me most about Pax's comments
Is that it gives him an excuse to not fix the roster by the start of this season. I mean – that’s ridiculous. If we start the season with this backcourt, I’m going to be pissed, even with this being happy happy joy joy time.
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That's what worries me
We need to make a move even if it’s just shipping off Gooden/Hughes.
We need to do something
sweet dreams are made of these
"There is no 'i' in team, but there is in win."
--23
by Orlando Woolridge on Jun 26, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
what is wrong with Arthur?
"There is no 'i' in team, but there is in win."
--23
by Orlando Woolridge on Jun 26, 2008 8:57 PM CDT reply actions
Bucher just reported
he has a previously undisclosed kidney problem.
He refused to do blood work for teams tht had him in for a look.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
and there you have it
"There is no 'i' in team, but there is in win."
--23
by Orlando Woolridge on Jun 26, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
That's a huge pick-up for the 27th pick
If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.
As long as they don't have to
hook him up for dialysis at half-time.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
That's mean. Let me take that back.
He seems like a great kid. And his mom was the best mom interview of the night.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
No. Someone on the ESPN chat. But Draft Express is hearing something is going on.
That Portland is getting Batum.
Admittedly, neither is very reliable, but it makes sense.
I hope Paxson and Vinny Del Epithet don't make Rose's minutes a source of
consternation and frustration all year.
That is one of the two things that can turn a joyous season into a long, miserable one.
The other is that Beasley (or Mayo) thrives and Rose struggles. The second guessing would be intolerable.
I cannot WAIT to see Rose in the UC. I haven’t been this excited in a decade.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
agreed dude
on both points
haven’t been this excited in A DECADE
and if they fuck up his minutes it won’t be a good scene around here.
"There is no 'i' in team, but there is in win."
--23
by Orlando Woolridge on Jun 26, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
P.S. I don't care what Hinrich/Gordon have done or earned. Similarly, I don't care
whether the team plays better with them on the court during Rose’s first season. I don’t care.
You spent the NUMBER ONE PICK IN THE NBA DRAFT on this player. That makes him the future of the franchise. Start him. Play him. Play him more. Keep him in at the end of the game. Minutes mean development.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
DeAndre Jordan could slip
Nathan Jawai, Richard Hendrix
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
i thought Jordan was going number 3?
"There is no 'i' in team, but there is in win."
--23
by Orlando Woolridge on Jun 26, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Naturally the Bulls pick 9th now
Miami could get CDR?
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually nvm they don't pick early enough
Seattle can draft him, Minnesota can draft DeAndre Jordan.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
They're saying Seattle gets DJ White and Detroit that 32 pick
If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.
That's more than a little crazy
One part says no way they all slip to 39 and Pax really ought to look at moving up, because any of them are a steal in the 2nd. On the other hand, they just keep slipping, and I’ve been thinking that for about 7 picks now.
If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.
What about Bill Walker?
I wouldn’t mind taking a chance on him in the 2nd round. He’d have been picked a lot higher if he could have gone pro out of high school two years ago. The injuries have killed his value, but the 2nd round is the time to take a gamble on someone.
I don't know which team could use him before the Bulls
But, if Jordan is there I say we pick him. Imagine Jordan and Tyrus with Rose.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I just don't see Paxson taking that kind of guy.
So many work issues. So many questions. Not over someone like CDR.
Guard rotation
Rose, Kirk, BG, Hughes, Thabo, CDR?
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Kirk and Hughes don't exist for the future of this team.
This team is building for three years and further out. You think a 30 year old Hinrich or 32 year old Hughes really factor into that? And if CD-R is better than Thabo (he’s younger, too) then that makes Thabo expendable.
A rotation of Rose, BG and CDR three years from now? Yeah, I dig that.
I would love that rotation
Move Thabo full time to SF when Nocioni gets traded
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL...nice!
"Me like to shoot much" - Andres Nocioni
I can't believe the T'Wolves would take him over Jordan.
Two guards? Chalmers and Mayo and Jefferson? I guess that’s something to build off of.
Yeah and Foye and McCants
And Telfair…..
McHale is an idiot.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Im so surprised
Jordan was supposed to go in the top 20
Bye Bye Jordan
we’ve already had enough Jordan anyway.
the name’s retired.
"There is no 'i' in team, but there is in win."
--23
by Orlando Woolridge on Jun 26, 2008 9:52 PM CDT reply actions
Bulls could really be a draft night winner
if they jump up for CDR here.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
Guys, maybe you liked him, but there was no way Paxson was taking Jordan.
He probably didn’t research him because of where he was projected to go, and you have to research a guy w/ that many questions.
He will suck on the Clippers
So if we get CDR or Jawai I’ll be happy.
Plus Hendrix is still there as a last ditch optoin.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe the Bulls could still swing a trade for Jordan
CDR would be nice but another G?
I doubt Pax would do it
As tyger pointed out
Assume Kirk and Hughes are not part of the rotation.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Why? Who is so good that is part of the future?
Can you guys not see beyond the next year?
Kirk is too expensive to stay a backup for longer than one year. Hughes is gone. Thabo is a SG/SF.
That leaves a PG, a SG and a SG/SF. Adding another SG/SF isn’t killing things.
no reason at all to take cdr
Too many guards as it is.
We can not draft another guard
I don’t care if CDR is there or not.
It doesn’t matter who we take now, they’re not going to make the team anyway
This would also be a good place
for a intl player.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
Hendrix would be a good pick too
Him or Walker.
The ultimate Skiles player
He’s going to be amazing on defense.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Gordons no guarantee
Hinrich should be moved it would be the worst thing to bench Rose.
Bill Walker!!!
"Me like to shoot much" - Andres Nocioni
I'm a big weaver fan
he can play point, has size, and played for good college teams. he was better than CDR
I don't get it
If we’re going to get another guy around that height, why not get CDR?
and why hasn’t CDR been taken yet?
by darksmokepuncher on Jun 26, 2008 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Weems is a good athlete.
Him and Tyrus can have their mini dunk-offs
by RogersPark Kris on Jun 26, 2008 10:03 PM CDT reply actions
Interesting
"Me like to shoot much" - Andres Nocioni
They're classifying him as a F? A little on the short side, no?
I’m not familiar with him at all, I confess.
If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.
Wow.
I did NOT see that one coming.
Other than the possibility of a sitcom named “Sonny and the Pooh”, I’m not sure where this gets us.
by BullsFanInSeattle on Jun 26, 2008 10:05 PM CDT reply actions
LLLLLLOOOOLLLLLLLLLLL
I can’t stop laughing…
First, we don’t draft a big guy, because we need one
Second, we let CDR go to new jersey to get this weems
FUCK YOU PAX!!!
Please Pax!!! Can you trade Hughes???
Hmmm, they're saying Chalmers is going to Miami
so if true, Riley got his defensive guard that can share ball handling.
If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.
Definitely a good pick up. Even if Wade ends up leaving...
...Chalmers and Beasley is nice to build off of.
They're going to be right back in it next year.
Especially if they can get something better at C. That team is going to be a huge improvement over this season’s fill-in D Leaguers. (Who I do recall beating us…)
If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.
Im glad we didnt get CDR cuz we have Thabo
but we really needed a big guy like that Jawaii guy.
Thabo could play SF
They are interchangeable.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
If we weren't going to get CDR
then we shouldn’t have drafted another guard at all
by darksmokepuncher on Jun 26, 2008 10:08 PM CDT reply actions
WTF is Pax doing
If we’re gonna draft a guard then we should have took CDR.
But we should have fucking taken a big man.
Seriously I have no idea wtf Pax is doing
draftexpress
Sonny Weems closed out his college career on the highest note possible, putting together an excellent NCAA tournament leading 9th seeded Arkansas to the second round, where they were blown out by North Carolina. It probably won’t be the 8-20, 22 point game he finished up with against UNC, but rather his game-changing performance in the first round against 8th seeded Indiana (31 points, 12-14 FG) that raised quite a few eyebrows from the many scouts in attendance. In hindsight, this weekend will probably end up looked at as being just what the doctor ordered in terms of kick-starting the pre-draft process into high gear for him.
In terms of physical attributes, Weems grades out very well at the shooting guard position, showing excellent size at 6-6, a solid frame, a good wingspan, and very nice athletic ability. He is very agile, fluid and quick off his feet, and even explosive in some instances, fitting the bill and then some for an NBA wing player.
Most of Weems’ offense comes off his jump-shot, where he is at his best coming off screens and elevating from mid-range distances. He sets his feet quickly, and has a high release point on his jumper, adding in a slight fade-away that makes it pretty difficult to guard. He can put the ball on the floor once or twice and pull-up off the dribble semi-well, creating very nice separation from his defender in the process, a testament to his athletic ability. His shooting mechanics are not consistent and he has a few fundamental flaws that hinder him from being much more effective from long range, but his good touch and solid overall scoring instincts allow him to get by with what he has at the current level of competition he plays at.
Weems’ jumper loses accuracy when he’s unable to fully set his feet before he releases it. He has plenty of wasted motion, starting off with the fact that he brings the ball down before bringing it back up, and then cocks it behind his head for good measure, which doesn’t allow him to get it off as quickly as he should. He seems to kick his feet out unnecessarily after elevating off the ground, fading away for no particular reason, which hurts his percentages as well. In the tape we saw, he looked infinitely better with his jump-shot when he made a conscious effort not to fade away and came down on two feet, something he should certainly work on to maximize his potential as a shooter.
As a slasher, Weems is strong and athletic enough to get to the rim off one or two dribbles and will generally finish well once he gets there, but he’s not crafty enough to consistently create his own shot even at the college level. His ball-handling skills are poor, as he’s unable to change directions in traffic or execute any real advanced moves against opposition. He doesn’t like finishing with his left hand, gets to the free throw line only about twice a game, and also lacks polish on his mid-range jumper.
Defensively, Weems is extremely poor, clearly lacking awareness and fundamentals, not getting in any type of real stance, getting lost within his team’s scheme on a regular basis, and often resorting to just gambling for steals and chasing after the ball instead of rotating and playing sound defense. He has all the tools to be extremely effective in this area, so it’s a bit surprising why he can’t translate them into success on this end of the floor. His junior college roots likely have a lot to do with it.
Weems is a team player, though, not being selfish in the least bit, and looking more than willing to give up the ball within his team’s offense. He executes their sets crisply and seems to have pretty good court vision, particularly in terms of making post-entry passes.
All in all, Weems still seems to have nice upside despite being finished with his college career, and could emerge as a viable NBA player down the road if he’s willing to work on his very obvious, but very correctable flaws. Becoming a consistent shooter and a reliable perimeter defender should be his first priorities, but he’s a guy to keep an eye out for, even if he doesn’t make it in the first go-around. He has a chance to make a strong impression in a few weeks at the Portsmouth Invitational Tournament, where he should be one of the more interesting player for NBA teams to take a look at. We should keep in mind that he’s still only 21 years old.
Dude, he's wicked athletic with a sick offensive game. I don't mind the pick at all, even though I wanted CDR.
I watched tons of SEC basketball and loved him all last year.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
I only saw his 2 tourny games
and he looked like the best player on the floor.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
I went to Kentucky for college and I also follow SEC
He had 26 points in Kentucky to keep them in the game scoring 22 in the second half, against Indiana in the NCAA tourney he scored 31 points. He looks like a player.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z64oJTF0Au8&eurl=http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/sonnyweems.html
Looks like Pax is planning on unloading some guards, and finally having some size in the backcourt.
Guy is great on offense. He'll look pretty awesome next to Rose on the break.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Too bad you can't sub out defense-offense consistently in the NBA
If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.
So they went for the athlete.
I’m really disappointed in not getting Douglas-Roberts, but I’m not sure I hate this pick. Only because it was over CDR.
Wonder what BG is thinking,
after he was commenting on having too many guards just with the thought of drafting Derrick. Now there’s an even bigger logjam around that 2 position.
If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.
He thinking
Taking the MLE and playing for the Knicks doesnt sound bad.
I doubt he's worrying about a second round pick
Sonny Weems is the one that ought to worry, because barring trades that clear the guard logjam he might not even make the team.
I'm not talking about being worried for his job, but about his impression of
what the team is doing and even wanting to stay. He says “too many guards” and the Bulls add two more?
If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.
could you people please overreact more
its hysterical. 2nd round picks rarely matter. and that goes for your precious CDR as well.
I'm pretty sure Duhon was a 2nd round pick
and he gets more than enough playing time
by darksmokepuncher on Jun 26, 2008 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah cause no one of importance has ever come out of the 2nd round
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
you are right
CDR is the next MJ. Damn that pax. ME ANGRY
by DangerMouse on Jun 26, 2008 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
what is everyone saying
They are criticizing a player they have never seen play over a guy the entire NBA passed on. No one wanted him, hence 2nd round pick. But he is the next Arenas, so have your hissy fit
by DangerMouse on Jun 26, 2008 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
This makes me think Pax already has some trades lined up...
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
I'm not seeing one
What are you imagining? Where do you think Hinrich/Hinrich/Hughes/Gooden can go now?
Please Pax!!! Can you trade Hughes???
Hinrich, Gordon, and Gooden can go a lot of places.
Hughes? Probably nowhere for now, sadly.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
No trades?
I thought we were going to make some noise tonight now im thinking Rose is riding the bench.
Our two most valuable guys can't be moved right now. Chill out for a week or two.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Uh, no.
"Glen Davis??? wow!! We had Glen Davis, his name is Michael Sweetney" - tyrus4prez
by NittanyBull on Jun 26, 2008 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I think VDN's definition of "earning time" is different that Boylans
No matter what Pax does to thin out the guards, I have no doubt Derrick will get plenty of minutes, unless he demonstrates a complete inability to handle it.
If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.
I think that's a little over-reacting
Ben Gordon represents one of the “logjam” guards and can’t be dealt with (or dealt, for that manner) until next week. I think a lot of our strategy in the remainder of the offseson revolves around the Gordon/Deng RFA dealings.
--Torch
Which is what Paxson said.
To paraphrase: I’m not worrying about anything other than the draft until after we figure out what’s happening w/ our free agents.
Draft -> RFA’s -> Trades
Surprised that Paxson didn't reunite Rose and CDR.
It may have eased Rose’s transition.
In any case, second round picks rarely matter.
That being said, this pick clearly has to signal an imminent guard trade.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
Yep - exactly what I just said. It's pretty obvious.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
You could be right.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on Jun 26, 2008 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think there's really a "right".
Just that one shouldn’t think anything is eminent from a 2nd round pick.
Yeah, true. I didn't mean to pull an NBAO there.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
He looks hideous
HIV Positive Magic Johnson looks far nicer.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, we really do aspire to be Phoenix, huh?
If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.
Bulls must need the cash
After all, they spent so much money on a head coach.
Has Rose said what number he'll wear with the Bulls?
"Glen Davis??? wow!! We had Glen Davis, his name is Michael Sweetney" - tyrus4prez
Rose #
He basically said, I don’t care, just give me a number and let me play…
I don’t remember the exact quote, but he certainely didn’t seem to worried about it.
I would guess he wears #25, it was his High School number at Simeon. He wore #23 in college, but obviously that’s not gonna work out well at the UC.
So next week the negotiations begin
They have to extend the QO’s by the 30th in order to have the right to match offers.
lol - Chad Ford's instant draft analysis
The Bulls get one of the best athletes in the draft. Weems really wowed people at the NBA combine in Orlando. However, Chicago seems to have a glut of guards.
If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.
I just want to see Hughes out of a Bulls jersey
I can live with Hinrich not being traded, and having him start instead of Rose. I wouldn’t mind Hinrich/Gordon, Hinrich/Sefolosha, Sefolosha/Gordon. But seeing Rose ride the pine anytime while Larry Hughes is chucking his 38 field goal percentage on the court will make me lose my mind.
God I hate Larry Hughes.
"Glen Davis??? wow!! We had Glen Davis, his name is Michael Sweetney" - tyrus4prez
by NittanyBull on Jun 26, 2008 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe they'll suck it up and buy him out?
I can dream about it, right?
If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.
25
Odd number.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
It is
So is Dengs, Gordons, Noahs, Nocionis,
Was that a real comment?
"Glen Davis??? wow!! We had Glen Davis, his name is Michael Sweetney" - tyrus4prez
by NittanyBull on Jun 26, 2008 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
The one we should have taken :\
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
I'm over it now
Most likely the pick ends up in the D League anyways.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Perhaps
they will eventually trade for a big guy who has been in the league for a while. We are very young and will have time to shop around.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
Alright this is running dry
We’re going to have a LONG time to dissect Rose.
Hopefully Paxson gets his mind right and works out the BG and Deng situations quickly. If there’s a chance to move Hughes and Noce, for the love of God do it.
It’s going to be a great offseason!
Care to recap, for those of us who don't get it?
If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.
And it doesn't sound like
they’re going to move Gordon/Hinrich/Thabo since Pax thinks Rose can work well with all of them. And he doesn’t want to rush Rose, aka he’s coming off the bench.
PROCESS, PROCESS, PROCESS!!
You know, for all the talking that he does about media speculation,
Pax has a kind of passive-aggressive way of just further encouraging it.
If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.
interesting...
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Paxson speaking live on Comcast Chicago
stating that Bulls will not rush to trade backcourt players b/c Rose is so young.
feels Rose can play with Kirk and with Ben
won’t rush with Rose because Rose is so young
preaches patience
interestingly, says that he received one offer today for number one pick that was “okay,” but ultimately decided not to take it
PAXSON STATES THAT WEEMS IS PART OF DEAL FOR PLAYER WHO CAN’T JOIN BULLS FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. SAYS BULLS TARGETED TWO PLAYERS AND GOT BOTH?
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You got to it first
That sounds interesting Weems is gone in a few minutes and I guess we will eventually know who we are getting for him.
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Guess it is likely a foreign player?
He mentioned it would be a couple years before we can get him. To me that sound like a foreign player.
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Rudy Fernandez from the Blazers/Spain?
or some slow 8 foot tall East German/Russian?
by KentuckyBullsFan on Jun 26, 2008 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
You know there are no more East Germans, right?
If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.
lol
Maybe we can get someone from the USSR.
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no I had no idea,...then I guess he must be from Yugoslavia
...
Maybe Tiago Splitter? Draftexpress says the Spurs drafted him in 2007.
by KentuckyBullsFan on Jun 26, 2008 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Link - Tiago
In recent drafts of years past, he was always mentioned
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tiago-Splitter-25/
by KentuckyBullsFan on Jun 26, 2008 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
The problem with East German athletes is
you can never be absolutely sure about the gender (like in the Olympics)
by KentuckyBullsFan on Jun 26, 2008 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I dare you
to tell an East German that to his face. That is after you find an East German.
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link
http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2000/07/37631
“E. German Olympic Dopers Guilty”
ok I’ll stop with that now.
....
BUT SERIOUSLY…PAX has scouted TIAGO SPLITTER FOR YEARS.
I can’t think of any other relevant foreign players who were drafted in recent years if its not Splitter or Rudy Fernandez
by KentuckyBullsFan on Jun 26, 2008 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
a couple of years? what? you mean weeks?
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Sounds like he didn't mention Hughes at all?
Am I hopefully reading too much into that?
If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.
He did
but it was like an after thought at the very end of the list of guards. :D
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That's not so bad, I guess. I was really a little hopeful he just got left out.
Poor Larry – I just can’t get on board with him being on the team. ;)
If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.
To be honest
it seems like he had a bad taste in his mouth when he said his name. So I guess Pax is not immune to what we all suffer from. I am still glad we got rid of dead weight Ben Wallace (just think of all the offense we can get just by not having him), but it sure would be nice to have Larry bought out or benched or shopped or something.
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True, if I had to pick between Ben Wallace and Hughes, I'd take Hughes
But it’s sort of like picking between a broken leg or an appendectomy.
If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.
More Paxson Live....
Tyrus will be better player because of Rose
Rose puts TT in position to use athleticism
Don’t expect Rose to lead right away
in interviews, Dorsey said Rose cautious early on and then gained confidence. At tourney, Rose told Memphis team that he was going to go out and score more, then he did..
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That's all 5 Jayhawks drafted!
Happy for me, even if no one else cares. :)
If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.
Pax said, "You might be right."
to a reporter. Who did the reporter say?
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
I couldn't hear it!?!
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by 1958ChiTown on Jun 26, 2008 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Comcast confirms it is international player.
Bu haven’t said a name.
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Deal is currently being finalized according to Paxson.
Staff in the Bulls organization is currently working on it.
Per Paxson, league rules prohibit him from naming the player until the trade is finalized.
That’s what he said, at least.
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by 1958ChiTown on Jun 26, 2008 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Foreign player, right? So it means that the announcement is on hold until somebody
figures out how to pronounce the player’s name.
/”We’re waiting, Red Kerr!”
//”What do you mean come back tomorrow?”
by KentuckyBullsFan on Jun 26, 2008 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
It would have to be
one of the earlier 2nd round intl picks.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
Couldn't it be a pick from a prior year?
I was thinking international player, still without contract and playing overseas, drafted #20-40, in 2006-2008.
by BullsFanInSeattle on Jun 26, 2008 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe that Paxson said that the player was from THIS year's draft.
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by 1958ChiTown on Jun 26, 2008 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Man, I think we have it bad,
then I think about how many players Portland has to sort out. And how many are going to be up for extensions at roughly the same time.
If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.
Celtics buy Walker from the Wiz.
Dammit.
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He is the number one pick.
play him. Any other team would play their number one pick. If we send ours to purgatory I’ll be pissed.
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Based on Paxson's comment about having to wait a few years, my
guess is that the player is Pekovic, the big center.
From Draft Express:
“Nikola Pekovic has reached an agreement with Panathinaikos for, apparently, the following three seasons. He will only move to the Greek powerhouse after his current season with Partizan is finished.
Pekovic blossomed this season into one of the most productive inside men all over Europe, which combined with his youth, made him one of the most attractive players on the European market. Rumors say he was paid as much as 4.5 million Euros (6.55 million dollars net) for three years, which is similar to the type of money this year’s #1 overall pick will receive in gross terms. This move is a clear statement by the player towards a future in the European scene for the mid-term. He hasn’t even waited for the NBA draft to evaluate his options at the American league. In the end, this is certainly a hit to his draft stock. Since any team drafting him in the end of the first round will likely never see him step foot on an NBA court (because of the extremely limiting rookie scale), it’s much more likely that he goes in the 2nd round now”
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Comcast says they are still looking into it.
Pekovic sounds promising I guess. Whoever it is the reporter dude said that he was described as a first round level player who won’t be coming over for a couple years. That’s all they said so far though. Could be Pekovic.
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That's probably the best guess.
I don’t think it’d be Asik because I don’t know why Portland would need Weems.
Another outside possibility is Nathan Jawai, if Indiana wanted to jump over New Jersey to get Weems.
by BullsFanInSeattle on Jun 26, 2008 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I was under the impression
Jawai would have been able to come play right away. Was he planning on staying away for a couple of years too?
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I think Norm Van Leer is drunk.
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Rose gave a great interview
to Comcast.
He’s very likable.
Throwing out the first pitch at the Cubs-Sox game tomorrow.
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I can't wait for the reception he recieves
It’s going to be a great moment
by Edicus2288i on Jun 26, 2008 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Stacy King is analyzing Rose's suit.
And I’m watching him do it.
I’m giddy.
Can this really be the day I have been waiting a decade for?
Is Rose our next homegrown superstar?
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Just out of curiousity....
...who were our other homegrown superstars?
MJ was from NC, Payton from Miss, Pippen from Ark, etc.
I don’t remember Chicago enjoying something quite like this before. The blush came off Eddy Curry, unfortunately.
by BullsFanInSeattle on Jun 26, 2008 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
We ship our homegrown stars to other teams.
Most recently, Wade.
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By homegrown, I simply meant that Rose was drafted by the Bulls and will (hopefully)
develop into a superstar with the Bulls and (hopefully) spend his best years or his entire career in Chicago.
As a sports fan, I have always preferred players who fit that mold (Jordan, Pippen, Payton, Singletary, etc.) over players acquired through high profile free agency transactions or trades. There is something superficial, mercenary, and unsatisfying about building a champion the way that Boston did this year. Just my opinion.
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by 1958ChiTown on Jun 26, 2008 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Gotcha
I agree. While I don’t think it should change the Bulls’ evaluation of Rose that he’s from Chicago and loves the Bulls – it sure does make it more likely that he won’t bolt for the cash in a few years like some others might. And that makes me happy.
It’d be really sweet to have a Hall of Famer Chicago sports personality who was born & raised here, who won state titles and pro titles.
by BullsFanInSeattle on Jun 26, 2008 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Absolutely.
Absolutely agree. Chicago has always been a city with a unique sense of civic pride.
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by 1958ChiTown on Jun 26, 2008 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions
from ford's
The Blazers agreed to send Asik to the Bulls for three future second-round picks. I think Asik could be one of the steals of the second round … if he ever comes over. He’s a hyperactive rebounder and shot-blocker with good athleticism. John Hollinger said his numbers suggest he should’ve been a top-10 pick. He’s a talent, but he may be in Turkey for the next few years developing his game.doesn’t say anything about weems, though.
Draft Express
With two more years left on his contract, and no NBA out clause, it will be a while before the team that drafts him sees dividend from the pick, which could be viewed as a positive by some. His team is currently playing in the finals of the Turkish league playoffs, and he won’t be able to come over for private workouts until probably the middle of June, which eliminates the possibly of getting a physical at the Orlando pre-draft camp or playing at the Reebok Eurocamp in Treviso.
Emphasis mine, of course. That certainly fits in w/ Paxson saying he’ll be across the pond for a couple of years.
From Hollinger
Actually, there are two other foreign players that I think might be better than Gallinari, and both are in this draft. Unfortunately, contracts may get in the way of either ever coming to the NBA.The first is Omer Asik, a Turkish center who played for Fenerbahce Ulker in Istanbul this past season. In 279 Euroleague minutes - granted, a smallish sample - his performance projects to 12.2 points and 13.5 boards per 40 minutes, with 52.3 percent shooting and a 15.23 PER. He blocks shots, too, setting a Euroleague Round of 16 record for rejections this year.
He’s 22, 7-feet tall with a decent frame and relatively new to the game and still improving. So what’s the hang-up? Apparently he signed a five-year deal to stay in Turkey with no buyout, meaning he might not play in the NBA for a long time. That would be a shame. I have little doubt that Asik should be a lottery pick, but the contract issue may leave him as a mid-second rounder.
If it’s a two year contract and not five this is a great deal in the 2nd round.
formerly sbulls
Draft Express compared him to
Biedrins. I wouldn’t mind that at all, especially as a backup center.
formerly sbulls
He re-signed in December '07...
...but no details of contract length.
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=000709
I’d have to think it a screw-up of the Bulls’ front office if he’s on a 5-year contract rather than a 2-year deal.
by BullsFanInSeattle on Jun 26, 2008 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Sam Smith on now...
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Sam Smith says that Bulls will push hard to sign BG in the next week.
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Odd he didn't mention Deng
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Smith is also going out his way to smoke Milwaukee's hog.
Says Milwaukee had the best draft day.
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Biggest Winner of the 2008 NBA Draft:
The Chicago Bulls.
They somehow traded DJ Augustin (#9) for Derrick Rose (#1), straight up. Genius!
How fun is that?
by BullsFanInSeattle on Jun 26, 2008 11:39 PM CDT reply actions
From Chad Ford's 2nd round analysis
The Blazers agreed to send Asik to the Bulls for three future second-round picks. I think Asik could be one of the steals of the second round … if he ever comes over. He’s a hyperactive rebounder and shot-blocker with good athleticism. John Hollinger said his numbers suggest he should’ve been a top-10 pick. He’s a talent, but he may be in Turkey for the next few years developing his game.
OJ Mayo to the Grizzlies!
For Mike Miller and Kevin love. On ESPN now.
8 player deal?
How bad can it get for Mayo. He goes from incompetence (Minnesota) to apathy (Memphis).
by BullsFanInSeattle on Jun 26, 2008 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmm
Conley
Mayo
Rudy Gay
Warrick
Darko
They are absolutely dreadful up front, but that’s some nice talent 1-3.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Talk about logjam
Conley, Crittendon, Lowry, Mayo, Jaric
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Memphis must have a trade already in place.
Because, I agree 100 percent that the last thing the Grizz needed (they need to be send to the Developmental league or at least sold to a city/ownership who gives a f*ck) was another point guard.
by RogersPark Kris on Jun 27, 2008 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I doubt they do
Chris Wallace isn’t a great GM and Heisley has proven he’s a dumbass.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 27, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Damn
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/news/story?id=3463045
wo league sources told ESPN.com that the Wolves have reached an agreement in principle with the Memphis Grizzlies that will send the draft rights of Mayo, Marko Jaric, Antoine Walker and Greg Buckner to the Grizzlies in return for the draft rights to Kevin Love, Mike Miller, Brian Cardinal and Jason Collins.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions
hm?
Antoine Walker. I kind of miss seeing him play for Miami. His “I didn’t foul” face is the best.
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And his 3pt Celebration Bounce
Is the absolute worst…
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, Bullshooter, and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light....
by piccolomair on Jun 26, 2008 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
So the T'Wolves
are gonna play Love and Jefferson together eh?
That's a small frontcourt
But they will be able to score pretty a lot of points.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Not small if your measuring the width of their rear ends.
They’ll score 40 points and give up 50. Talk about lateral quickness.
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Season...start...NOW! Season...begin...TOMORROW! Season start! Go go gadget season!
It’s not working.
I can’t wait to get back in my seat at the UC.
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Mariotti
pokes fun here at the “he needs time” comment.
at least mariotti gets something right once in awhile.
agreed, I hate to admit it
but I was agreeing with Mariotti in that piece. Of course he had to throw in garbage about Reinsdorf, Krause, etc…
management sez: recommend fanposts/fanshots/comments! Click 'reply' when replying to a comment! Flag jerkfaces!
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 27, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Please don't link to him
I don’t mean to be rude, but we shouldn’t increase traffic to the Sun-Times because they employ someone who routinely writes trash because it makes him more visible.
I hope I’m not overstepping my bounds, but I just hate the “controversy sells” mindset of certain publications.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 27, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions

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