Bucks acquire Richard Jefferson for Yi, Simmons
by Bulls4Ever on Jun 26, 2008 2:21 PM CDT
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Just saw this out there. Trying to confirm it. [confirmed. -ed.] Looks like Skiles got himself a new guy. I doubt they still draft Joe Alexander if this is true. I also wonder if this means M Redd is going or staying. Cant wait for tonight. Has anyone else seen any reports of this trade going down? So i guess the trade is Bobby Simmons and Yi for R Jefferson.
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Good trade for both teams. NJ gets a decent(cheapish) young player and cap savings for the summer of Lebron, and Milwaukee doesn’t have to witness Skiles destroying the psyche of Jianlian. Plus Jefferson’s a solid defender and easily the best player in the draft.
So does Milwaukee go for a big man now or someone like Augustin?
"Me like to shoot much" - Andres Nocioni
by BNeL21 on Jun 26, 2008 2:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I say big guy...
They only have Vilanueva and Bogut now…
Please Pax!!! Can you trade Hughes???
by bull83 on Jun 26, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They just
signed M Williams to a big deal last summer i think they are ok at PG. I think they go big and drop the Australian to the 4. Maybe Lopez if he’s still there.
by Bulls4Ever on Jun 26, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anda Gallinari, Kosta Koufos and DeAndre Jordan...etc
Please Pax!!! Can you trade Hughes???
by bull83 on Jun 26, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deandre Jordan + Scott Skiles
Haha, that would be almost as good as Jianlian and Skiles.
"Me like to shoot much" - Andres Nocioni
by BNeL21 on Jun 26, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeAndre Jordan
has seen the biggest drop in his draft position. Mocks have him falling to the end of the first round. He’s really not a center. He’s just 7’0 tall.
by NBA Observer on Jun 26, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tah
Please Pax!!! Can you trade Hughes???
by bull83 on Jun 26, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that could be the best he can get with #8.
Love should be gone by then; Maybe Lopez
Please Pax!!! Can you trade Hughes???
by bull83 on Jun 26, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love or Lopez
I don’t know if either guy is around at #7. Lopez should be.
by NBA Observer on Jun 26, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
draft s/b trade. oops.
"Me like to shoot much" - Andres Nocioni
by BNeL21 on Jun 26, 2008 2:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice
So what’s more obvious: Kevin Love to Minnesota or Lebron to New Jersey in 2010?
by Jobu on Jun 26, 2008 2:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think
Mayo goes 3rd to Minnesota.
by Bulls4Ever on Jun 26, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn
I was really looking forward to seeing how Skiles would deal with Yi. Skiles might have created an international incident.
by Big D on Jun 26, 2008 2:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
All these trades
and I can’t think of a team more crowded than the Bulls…
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Jun 26, 2008 2:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe there won't
be any room on the team bus for Hughes. We can only hope, right?
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by cranscape on Jun 26, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is good news for Yi
and me as well since I won’t have to suffer through watching Skiles try to coach him.
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by cranscape on Jun 26, 2008 2:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
With the 10th pick
in the 2008 NBA Draft, the New Jersey Nets select Joe Alexander out of West Virginia.
Mandarin speaking buddies with Yi. Also, no more SF logjam in front of Joe.
by NBA Observer on Jun 26, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, you aren't kidding
you really do have psychic abilities.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 26, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
China has no growth
and Jay-Z really is a dumb investor.
Just blink with me baby.
by NBA Observer on Jun 26, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the point was
the ‘Alexander speaks mandarin’ stuff has been out there, yet you phrase it like it’s your own profound creation.
Which, for the umpteeth time, makes you sound like a tool.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 26, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yi and Alexander would be a decent combination.
They can switch offensive and defensive roles at forward.
formerly sbulls
by Scotter on Jun 26, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And
have a secret language. :D I still think all the French speakers on the Bulls should capitalize on that.
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by cranscape on Jun 26, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You gotta believe they used to gripe in French last season.
Unless Boylan is a closet French speaker, I guess.
If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.
by wjb1492 on Jun 26, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my first reaction
is that this is bad news for the Bulls, it makes one of our division opponents better. R Jeff is proven and is way better than Yi will ever be, in my view. Although, I see why NJ does it, because of their rebuilding project / quest for LBJ.
by fundamentallysound on Jun 26, 2008 2:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I would say Williams-Redd-Jefferson-CharlieV-Bogut
may be the worst defensive lineup in basketball…but then again Skiles has proven he can work magic on that end.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 26, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was a rumor from the Milwaukee Real GM board of
Hinrich for 8th pick plus Desmond Mason and Charlie V. I thought maybe Skiles wanted to go small ball with Mo, Kirk, and Redd. This probably kills any chance of that though.
formerly sbulls
by Scotter on Jun 26, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Skiles would get rid of Charlie V
Only guy in the league with less hair than him.
by JeffD on Jun 26, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That really isn't fair to Kirk
to finally get rid of Skiles only to get on another team with him. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
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by cranscape on Jun 26, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look on the bright side
Kirk wouldn’t have to uproot his new family.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on Jun 26, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In general, I'd agree
But maybe a half season with Boylan makes Skiles look not so bad? He’s a non-communicative ass, but his coaching made slighly more sense.
If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.
by wjb1492 on Jun 26, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He might come to blows with Charlie especially...
probably Redd too. They put no effort into D and Charlie looks like he doesn’t think on the court.
But depending on how they use their pick – they could very well be a 7 or 8 playoff seed next year.
by swede2287 on Jun 26, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lebron is a growth guy
Teach me Madarin King James.
by NBA Observer on Jun 26, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think Milwaukee ends up trading Redd too
So maybe they go with Eric Gordon or Bayless at #8.
"Me like to shoot much" - Andres Nocioni
by BNeL21 on Jun 26, 2008 2:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Where though?
Sixers? They have 11 mil in cap space, but they still have to pay Igoudala and Lou Williams.
Who else can absorb 17 million?
by NBA Observer on Jun 26, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt the Sixers because I assume,
they eventually want to get Iggy and Thad to the SG and SF positions.
formerly sbulls
by Scotter on Jun 26, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The rumor I've seen
Has them sending him to Cleveland for Wally’s expiring contract and other pieces.
They don’t need to find a team with cap room in order to make the trade.
"Me like to shoot much" - Andres Nocioni
by BNeL21 on Jun 26, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this puts them in win-now mode
and not only that, with Jefferson (and Gadzuric and Williams) they’re likely not having a ‘2010 plan’ anyway (might as well, who’s coming to Milwaukee as a FA), so Redd’s salary isn’t as crippling.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 26, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit
I just keep waiting for ONE of these news breaks to be about the BULLS!
I heard Roy Hibbert's workout is scheduled for next week.
by BigBenign on Jun 26, 2008 3:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm surprised the Nets would take a glorified salary dump
for Jefferson. I guess it’s 2010 at all costs.
Straight-up for Odom made more sense though, you’d think they could work within the parameters of 2010 while still getting back someone who will help them win in the interim.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 26, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
New Jersey was reportedly looking to cash in on young players before this trade.
so add Yi to Kristic, Boone, Williams, Williams, Ager, new draft choices…they won’t keep all of those guys (I assume Devin Harris is safe)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 26, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
brainstorming
Warriors still have a huge trade exception. Wonder if they’ll absorb a Nets contract to get Yi in the Bay Area.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 26, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They don't really have any other large contracts past 2010 except Vince
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by BNeL21 on Jun 26, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, good point.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 26, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This could
be the end of the VC era as well. Wouldnt be surprised to see him shipped out tonight for an expiring deal. I would say maybe Marbury but that would probably be counter productive considering they are both in the LBJ sweepstakes..
by Bulls4Ever on Jun 26, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
the reports were that the Nets were going to go the other way, make another run around VC and Devin Harris. Of the guys I listed, I don’t think they have enough assets to pawn Carter off on anyone.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 26, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about VC
To GS for that 10mil exception they have and maybe a few young wings they have. Dont they still got that kid they drafted last year? Nelly wants to win now and with Monta, BD, and VC that would be a pretty nast lineup. Worst D in the league but htye would score the most.
by Bulls4Ever on Jun 26, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly I think the Warriors are better off with Stephen Jackson over VC
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ow yeah
I forgot about him. My bad. Still i just cant see shipping away all they vets and keeping VC (contrary to YFB saying they were making another run). I just dont think VC is down like that. Remeber hes a malcontent. This will not fly with him.
by Bulls4Ever on Jun 26, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Skiles & Yi
I was really looking forward how to say “Doghouse” in Chinese
by Jobu on Jun 26, 2008 3:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It'll be interesting to see
How Jay-Z will use Yi’s name on his next album and what words he’ll use to rhyme with it. I still don’t know how to correctly pronounce the guys name. What rhymes with Jianlian?
"Me like to shoot much" - Andres Nocioni
by BNeL21 on Jun 26, 2008 3:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"somethingsomethingsomething with no panties on"
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 26, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I should flag myself for that one.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 26, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, those leggy blondes
I wonder if Yi ever had a budgie that died…
by Ugh It Live! on Jun 26, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I rap too
me tradee,
andres nocioni,
in exchangee,
for Jianlian Yi.
by NBA Observer on Jun 26, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit Hammond deprives us of Skiles destroying Yi
With Joe Alexander translating “you’re not running hard enough” in Mandarin.
Good deal for NJ. Jefferson was worth too much for what he actually provides, and this just makes the LeBron wooing that much easier.
So who do the Bucks take now? They still have too many forwards, Eric Gordon probably won’t last that long, dare the Bucks take Kevin Love and piss off MJ?
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 3:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
love - but i don't think he'll still be around.
so I think they’d be wise to look at brook lopez.
by swede2287 on Jun 26, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drafting a backup for Bogut?
Why not draft Russell Westbrook, definitley a Skiles kind of guy.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The NBA offseason is truly the most underrated aspect of sport
The only sport where the offseason can be more exciting than the actual games played.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 3:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wonder if Skiles' old pal Jason Kidd is filling RJeff in on lots of good stories?
If nothing else, taking Rose will at least piss off Pat Riley.
by wjb1492 on Jun 26, 2008 3:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jefferson with 4 years left on his contract
So he might not grow weary until year 3.
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 26, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yi
was abused in Bucks scrimmages, daily? Extremely overrated?
Let’s try to upgrade Duhon (+Future Traded Kirk) with the Buck’s Sessions..
by exult463 on Jun 26, 2008 3:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
man, you really love Ramon Sessions
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 26, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, only 3 comments
but it’s Ramon Sessions
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 26, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did average 15 assists per game
in his final 5. I completely forgot about him; there’s no way the Bucks take Augustin with Sessions and Williams already in place.
by YaoPau on Jun 26, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just want some
new blood on the team. Too many sappy players on the roster. I wish we could get Beasley and Rose
by exult463 on Jun 26, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder
if the Nets traded him because he beat the crap out of that guy at the bar that one night.
by Bulls4Ever on Jun 26, 2008 3:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Weren't the Bulls considering making a run at RJ a few years ago
around the time they drafted Deng and were also considering Al Harrington? It sounds now like it was Skiles pushing for RJ and maybe he was pushing again. Then again, I’d try to move Yi off my team, too. He’s a softer version of Charlie V. for crying out loud.
by messwiththebull on Jun 26, 2008 3:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
interesting connection.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 26, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's true
jefferson has got the athleticism and toughness to be a lock-down defender…even though he has yet to be that defender.
I think skiles knows that.
by swede2287 on Jun 26, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
softer than charlie v? that's harsh
He’s got better length – and i think that yi might have a brain too.
by swede2287 on Jun 26, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You think Skiles would want to
coach Duhon or Kirk again? I don’t, and maybe Du,previously his favorite player, may have burnt bridges with the Boylan similiarity comments with Skiles?
by exult463 on Jun 26, 2008 3:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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