Hollinger on the Euros
His Euroleague stat translator (insider) has been very accurate over the past few years. It makes sense that it'd be a more reliable stat sample than the NCAA.
The reason this works is that there's a predictable relationship between a player's stats in the Euroleague -- the highest level of European basketball -- and what they'll be in the NBA. Crossing the Atlantic does the following to a player's results:
• Scoring rate decreases 25 percent
• Rebound rate increases by 18 percent (there are more missed shots in NBA play)
• Assist rate increases by 31 percent (Euro scorers are tightwads with assists)
• Shooting percentage drops by 12 percent
• Overall, PER drops by 30 percent.In the case of Danilo Gallinari, he projects to a PER of 13.21 -- pretty darn good for a 20-year-old. The caveat is that he did this in just 11 games for a bad team, AJ Milano, that won only three games. As a result he shot more than he would normally at the pro level, and likely a worse percentage. His projected numbers from Europe are 14.5 points per 40 minutes and 37.0 percent shooting; I'd expect the points to be lower and the percentage to be higher unless he's picked by a truly awful team (in a related story, the Clippers pick seventh).
This is a "Year 1" projection, as opposed to the "Year 3" projections I used for the college prospects, and once you factor in his age and growth potential you'd have to presume he'd be up around 15 or 16 by Year 3. If so, it would make Gallinari one of the top prospects in this year's draft, and his status as a likely selection between six and 10 seems reasonable.
Beyond that, there isn't much use for this tool in this year's draft, besides noting that Batum will bust. Everyone else either didn't play in the Euroleague, or aren't likely to come to the NBA and therefore won't be drafted.
There's also some interesting notes on already-drafted players like Tiago Splitter and David Andersen.
Finally, this gave me a chuckle:
I have Michael Beasley and Kevin Love as the two best players, followed by Derrick Rose, Joe Alexander and Darrell Arthur. Gallinari, Jerryd Bayless, Marreese Speights, Brook Lopez and D.J. Augustin round out my top 10, with Mario Chalmers and Roy Hibbert the next two names on the board. Since there's only about 12 guys in any draft who can play, those are the 12 I'm putting my money on.
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I thought the most interesting part of that article
was Hollinger’s rating of both Asik and Pekovic are lottery talents. I’ve read a few reports now that Serge Ibaka is a lottery talent as well, but his European contract will move him into the second round.
I imagine the Stay-A-Few-Years-In-Europe trend will become even more popular in the near future, meaning the #31-40 picks will be worth about 10x as much as the #20-30 picks.
Idea
The NBA should allow teams to give their 1st round picks a non-guaranteed contract. That way the Spurs, Lakers, Pistons, and (soon to be) Bulls of the league can draft euroball players with their 1st round picks.
Spurs have been drafting Euroleaguers for years
They just don’t bother with giving them contracts until they’re ready to come to the States. Even without a contract, the Spurs are able to maintain draft rights to a player.
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Hmmm...
I was going to say they’ve drafted all their euroleaguers in the second round, but you’re right – they took Splitter first round last year.
Still… I think the Spurs can only offer Splitter the rookie contract once he comes to the States. Meaning he might never come over.
From mysanantonio:
Reports last week out of Brazil, Splitter’s home country, placed the value of the contract at several times the maximum deal the Spurs could offer him, just below $1 million for the 2008-09 season.
Now, I’m not sure if that $1 million is the most the Spurs can ever offer him, or if that’s only in place for the next four years. Either way, the NBA’s current guaranteed contract system seems to be pricing themselves out of getting top talent overseas.
Sorry, misunderstood what you meant
It’s not the “guaranteed” status of the contracts, it’s the 1st round pricing scale. For first rounders, the rookie contract is solely determined by when they were selected. Players drafted in the second round can be offered any amount. If Splitter had been a second rounder, the Spurs could have upped their bid.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
I'm not really sure what I was talking about either :)
But does
For first rounders, the rookie contract is solely determined by when they were selected.mean that, four years after the Splitter pick, the Spurs can offer him any deal? If so, that makes things a liittttle better for late 1st round teams, but it still seems there’s an unnecessary penalty in place.
No. They can only offer Splitter the same amount
of money year after year. Whatever is dictated by his draft slot in the year he has drafted. So the contract they can offer has less value year after year with inflation and the falling value of the dollar. Splitter would have to gamble on getting a huge contract 4-5 years down the line that only the NBA could pay him that would make up for the lost money during his 1st NBA contract. Or he stays in Europe and is a near lock to earn several million dollars a year for the rest of his playing career.
formerly sbulls
yeah, and we got Asik. I am very pleased. Hopefully we can convince him to come over.
by fundamentallysound on Jun 27, 2008 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, 2nd rounders don't have a limit on the money they can make.
If his contract is for two more years, then just offer more than what he’s offered in Europe. He’ll be like a true FA, w/ the Bulls the only NBA team able to negotiate w/ him.

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