that close or open mindedness has anything to do with it. It just has to do with valuing what a player actually does or what a player seems like he could do. Beasley actually put historic numbers in a big six conference. Rose facilitated for a great team but rarely took over games and people want to draft him based on seeing a few great games in the tournament and a few great dunks and imagining what he could be capable of. I’d rather go with the actual production.

to what?

I didn’t follow college basketball enough that year to really know but I do remember hearing that Deron Williams was what really made that team go. The problem with Memphis is that the system didnt really allow Rose to do a similar thing. Maybe he could have but even still, the system definitely could have allowed him to score more often and CDR was the one who was asked to do that for the most part.

I meant as a whole for the entire season. Of course many people here just want to remember the few great games Rose had in the tournament but I’d rather use the largest possible sample size when trying to make a judgement.

if you read what my comment actually said, Paxson will figure it out by dealing with the roster. If it stays the same, then put him at the 4.

its impossible for a small forward to score in the post. By the way, if you’ve read anything I’ve written it has said that Beasley answers our needs for a go to scorer and someone who can get easy baskets in the paint. Never said anything about low post scorer.

he won’t be facing 6’ 7” – 6’ 8” college 4s on a nightly basis either, and there is no disputing that he fancies himself as a 3 as much as he does a 4 and his own game lends to this ambiguity. He even suggested playing 3 on the Bulls. If we are now in agreement that B-Easy is more of a prolific scorer than post scorer, I view this as a Oden-Durant situation. Both are elite talents, but you take the elite talent at the premium position over the elite scorer at an undefined position (3? 4? even 2 in Durant’s case?).

Rondo also has gigantic GODZILLA-sized hands. Makes sense for a PG.

I was kind of “meh” on D-Rose as well afterwards. And it’s not because Memphis lost.

A #1 overall pick should show flashes of preternatural ability. I didn’t see it in that game. (I saw a few high school highlights as well some steals and dunks and thought the same thing). Blogabullers have said repeatedly that they see a few things that make him comparable to Paul or Deron Williams, and I just did not see:

1. Ability to finish at the rim better than most NBA (point) guards or Dwade? (not in this game)
2. Mentality of pushing the ball like Nash for fast breaks? (not in this game)
3.The claim he is a big point guard who is a great defender (meh, he’s short, D was meh too)
4. Super-duper ballhandling and wants the ball like an elite PG like Kidd or Chauncey and DARES opposite team to come and get him (definitely not, looking at the last minute of regulation, even when the announcers said Calipari wanted DRose to HOLD the ball, he dumped it off )
5. Speed so fast no one can stop him driving in the lane like TonyParker (in the NBA, i have doubts about this…the hope is that the NBA farther out 3-pt line will give more space, but the defending bodies are bigger too, PLUS IN THIS GAME HE’S OFTEN HANGING AROUND PAST THE 3-PT LINE A LOT and dumping it to another player)

Like I said, the youtube resolution was poor, but…he doesn’t seem like a guy who will get double-teamed or have an opposing team game plan just for him like Nash or even Tony Parker. I hope it was just this game.

/don’t care about the missed free throws, care more about him seeming not to want the ball in that never never land between the 3 point line and half-court…especially with the game on the line

I’m talking about multiple regression analysis (GLM) in neuroscience – I know jack about economics, unfortunately. Same thing or different thing? In either case it’s an off-topic thing…and the sort of thing I enjoy getting FAR FAR AWAY from on BaB.

What I’d really love to see is an application of Hollinger’s method on historically great players like jordan, magic, bird, etc…just not sure if we have those stats available. if you could get that extra data it would be a lot more conclusive than this…pile of pink panties, as you put it.

As long as he’s pulling for Rose i’m cool.

I might have missed something but since when was doc rivers a good coach. I know he won coach of the year but so have a lot of other shitty coaches. Ainge got him good players and they won a championship. If i remember correctly, doc rivers was one of the worst nba coaches the past few years and even this year there were a lot of rumblings about his decision making.

During the finals, the behind the scenes doc rivers inspirational speaking was really cliche. All he said was crap like “we made it this far but its not far enough.” I mean, I don’t expect him to be giving away game strategy straight to the camera but not one insightful word.