speculation: Hinrich for Haslem

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 18, 2008 10:46 AM CDT

A Heat official said several teams have expressed an interest in Udonis Haslem if Miami drafts and keeps Michael Beasley, which remains a strong possibility. Haslem could be swapped for a point guard, with Kirk Hinrich, T.J. Ford and Mo Williams in play, and less appealing names (Jamaal Tinsley, Jarrett Jack, Kyle Lowery) also available.

(The big news, of course, is that someone would dare call Kyle Lowry unappealing!)

Haslem isn't equal value for Hinrich, though his contract is friendlier: owed $6,575,000/$7,100,000 the next two seasons. And the roster would be loved by David Thorpe even more.

Bulls could try for major 2010 cap savings by also swapping Nocioni for Blount, but neither Haslem and Blount are good fits with Tyrus/Noah, as they're both pretty slight for frontcourt players. So it'd be a cap-saving move, but I'd prefer to be at least a little choosy in terms of fitting the on-court roster.

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Didn't we already try to go

the gritty, undersized, overachiever route?

Haslem doesn’t upgrade anything. Blah.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Jun 18, 2008 11:03 AM CDT 0 recs

eh

not really moved by this. Plus they would get older, albeit, not by much (Kirk is 27, Haslem is 28).

But according to this post – http://www.blogabull.com/2008/6/16/553272/blogabull-roster-evaluatio#comments – getting older is not favored :)

by NormVanBeer on Jun 18, 2008 11:19 AM CDT 0 recs

cap cap cap cap cap cap

cap!

They’re all just walking contracts :)

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 18, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up 0 recs

yeah, you're right

...perhaps we can take Chris Quinn from Miami…he doesn’t make a lot, he’s sub-par athletically, he can hit the three if you leave him open…plus he graduated from ND! Those things alone would bring tears to Paxson’s eyes.

by NormVanBeer on Jun 18, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up 0 recs

Quinn

He was pretty good last year… hey do you think if Miami got Hinrich they would go after Ridnour, keep Quinn and create the first basketball boy band -32 degrees. Maybe they can get Mark “Mad dog” Madsen to be back-up dancer.

by TRiCioNeRo on Jun 18, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up 0 recs

lol

by NBA Observer on Jun 18, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up 0 recs

I'm assuming

by “pretty good” you mean “decent enough to play significant minutes because of Wade being injured”

by NormVanBeer on Jun 18, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up 0 recs

he actually wasn't that terrible

but that team was tanking, so it’s tough to judge any numbers.

He’s a restricted FA anyway. Bulls could take Marcus Banks back with the trade exception, but the Heat would have to give them a reason to.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 18, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up 0 recs

didn't call him terrible

...he was decent. I just don’t think he was “pretty good”...specifically for the reasons that we both stated. A tanking team with its major star(s) hurt…of course he’s going to look better than normal.

Other than the obvious (Wade) there’s nobody on Miami’s roster who I would want…which includes Marion.

by NormVanBeer on Jun 18, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up 0 recs

Haslem seems like a younger PJ Brown to me

Someone who looks good on a team that has all the pieces to make a nice playoff run, and can come up big in crucial games. So, he may be a nice player with a defensive mindset and all, but on a team that’s going to be going in a million different directions with a new coach, new potential star, etc. his value just won’t be that high.

by Ozzie Montana on Jun 18, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up 0 recs

Brown's far stronger

which is why he can get away with defending Centers. I doubt Haslem could.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 18, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up 0 recs

You know what

I will even go ahead and use Chris Quinn and effecient in the same sentence. Chris Quinn was effecient last year, showed he had a good stroke, distributed the ball (to who I dont know), he did not deserve the Shaq comments at all and I like how he handled them LeBronesque. I would take him over Duhon anyday.

by TRiCioNeRo on Jun 18, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up 0 recs

screw the cap

time to make moves

by Belize on Jun 18, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up 0 recs

Isiah?

Is that you? or are you quoting him?

by TRiCioNeRo on Jun 18, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up 0 recs

Nah

Just a disgruntled fan, tired of saving money on draft picks and low trades…(apart from the wallace trade) I think its time to show the world some Fidelty Bulls nuts and make moves…..

by Belize on Jun 18, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up 0 recs

Lateral move

Its just not sexy enough, I know we save some money but it doesnt improve us. Id rather get a draft pick, shooter and ofcourse the low post scorer. The only thing that works is for the money and im sure there is more lucrative deals to clear cap room. I still would rather Raef and 13 for Hinrich and Simmons. I really think there will be someone at 13 who could help this team alot. We could probably replace Gordon with the #13 I am so done with him.

by TRiCioNeRo on Jun 18, 2008 11:57 AM CDT 0 recs

we're getting the #1 overall pick

that should be so sexy it wears you out.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 18, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up 0 recs

ha!

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on Jun 18, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up 0 recs

It has

My throat hurt so bad when I saw that 9th envelope by the time Freddy dropped his teddy bear I already had a cough drop in. I just mean that theres is so much more we can do with Kirk then send him off for Haslem.

by TRiCioNeRo on Jun 18, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up 0 recs

The best thing about this is

full contact sparring between Udonis and Andres at practice.

Udonis launching his mouthpiece would pale in comparison. And there will be no refs to defuse it all with a well-placed tech…

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by bullhockey on Jun 18, 2008 12:06 PM CDT 0 recs

CAGE MATCH CAGE MATCH

by iBurkey on Jun 19, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up 0 recs

Haslem is way too gritty, experienced, jump-shooty, and non-reboundy for any coach to deny him minutes

Another made up word: de-improving

2003-04 109 ORtg
2004-05 118 ORtg
2005-06 116 ORtg
2006-07 106 ORtg
2007-08 104 ORtg

by hscs on Jun 18, 2008 12:10 PM CDT 0 recs

Im with stupid <---

He was lined up next to Shaq and Zo and he can hit a 12 footer. Shaq makes everyone better unless your smaller than 6’2” and white just ask Kerr, Dontowni and Nash.

by TRiCioNeRo on Jun 18, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up 0 recs

Too shallow at PG

Even if we take Rose, we still need another PG. We still need Hinrich.

by chlutz508 on Jun 18, 2008 12:17 PM CDT 0 recs

don't think he play backup to rose

..and I dont want him learing the basics of turnovers..lol

by Belize on Jun 18, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up 0 recs

what about signing Du to a peanuts one year contract?

and still dumping Hinrich.

by Orlando Woolridge on Jun 18, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up 0 recs

BOOO!!!!

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, Bullshooter, and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light....

by piccolomair on Jun 18, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up 0 recs

BOOOO!!!

I second that!! Chris Duhon is gone.

by TRiCioNeRo on Jun 18, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up 0 recs

Duhon > Kirk

Screw the Star Trek nickname..hes a dud

by Belize on Jun 18, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up 0 recs

Yeah

The Bulls won’t be able to survive without Duhon’s six point contribution per 35 minutes of game time I recall fondly from previous years. The Bulls are already used to not seeing him show up for practice. Won’t be too hard for them to work around him not being at games either.

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by cranscape on Jun 18, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up 0 recs

he's a back up...back up

..granted thabo stays

by Belize on Jun 18, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up 0 recs

He should be a back up, back up

Problem is, he probably doesn’t realize that he should only be a back up, back up. Skiles should be forced to pay for any therapy Duhon needs to help come to grips with the fact that he’s not good enough to be a major contributor on an NBA team.

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on Jun 18, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up 0 recs

Dang!

We should have hired Dr. Phil as a coach

by Belize on Jun 18, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up 0 recs

We aren't having this discussion again

Duhon is the most mediocre player on the team. He’s not Larry Hughes bad, but he’s so “Meh” in everything he does it’s like you forget he exists until you see a photo of him giving some sorority girl a lap dance.

by Ozzie Montana on Jun 18, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up 0 recs