Michael Beasley holds court

Matt, did you check out the pictures at bulls.com

So when are the Bulls doing interviews for assistants?

by KT on Jun 18, 2008 8:11 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs

Hopefully soon...

I like B’ Easy, hes a funny guy. Look, we’re gonna be a better team no matter who we get. Still i would rather get D Rose. We NEED a floor general!!!! I am sick and tired of watching CP3 and Derron Williams run circles around us!!!!

by JohnnyKilroy on Jun 18, 2008 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Last time I checked...

... CP3 and Derron Williams were not in the NBA finals. Derek Fisher & Rajon ROndo however were. We need a scorer (and Beasley is the best in this draft class) not D Rose.

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by Vangelis on Jun 19, 2008 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Last time I checked,

Just a year ago, Tony Parker was MVP, and the Celtics most dominant scorer was a wing player.

by RogersPark Kris on Jun 19, 2008 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

(Finals MVP)

by RogersPark Kris on Jun 19, 2008 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The point is...

... scorers are more important at crunch time than facilitators (i.e PGs). Just look at the list of finals MVPs (and in fact MVPs overall) and you will struggle to find any PGs. Beasley is the best scorer in the draft…

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by Vangelis on Jun 19, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chauncey Billups

I didn’t even look that up.

by hscs on Jun 19, 2008 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Steve Nash... twice

I didn’t look that up either.

by hscs on Jun 19, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rose won't be able to score in crunch time?

Paul and Williams don’t?

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 19, 2008 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Beasley...

... IS a better scorer… and rebounder etc. etc. The number of PG MVPs in the League’s History is very small. There is a good reason for this… PGs don’t win titles, scorers (surrounded by good defenders) DO. That’s why Beasley is a no-brainer IMO.

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by Vangelis on Jun 19, 2008 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

how many undersized frontcourt players win MVPs?

the answer is ‘who cares?’.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 19, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

they're all there, aren't they? ugh.

Think Ron Adams is wearing a sweater vest and shorts combo, or a onesie?

by hscs on Jun 18, 2008 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know why...

...but I love Del Negro in the workout shorts and the white pullover, collared shirt. It’s just so… coach-like. He’s got the style down anyway.

by tyger1147 on Jun 18, 2008 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think

that’s Gar Forman, not Ron Adams.

by kig on Jun 18, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I stand corrected

by hscs on Jun 18, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

no Mike Brown

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 18, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I stand corrected again

The Bulls need to hire new organization guys that can’t be mistaken for old organization guys in low res jpegs.

by hscs on Jun 18, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well Brown's a new hire, pretty much

and thus hasn’t reached the status of ‘organizational guy’. You can’t cast out people like Adams and Myers, you just can’t.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 18, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Almost had a heartattack

Thought u meant clevaland Mike Brown….that dude is..wats the word ? a herb sounds fitting

by Belize on Jun 18, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ha

that’s a good one

John Paxson has been like family to me. I can no more disown him than I can disown my white grandmother, who also was unable to pull off any deals for superstar free agents or hire a top-notch coach.

by preverbal on Jun 18, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

Q. Is there anything to set straight about how you attended five different high schools?
A. “I went to five different high schools. There’s really know explaining around it. Nothing’s normal. The average height is 6-feet. I’m 7 inches over. That’s not normal. Nothing’s normal. It’s just the path that I went. Everybody has their different paths and mine was just a little longer.”

That’s a weak redirect, but he’s trying. I still want Beasley to give a straight answer as to why he has attended so many schools. If you were interviewing a candidate that had 6 jobs in 6 years in 6 different cities, what would you think?

by NBA Observer on Jun 18, 2008 8:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

If it was during high school, nothing

I had 4 jobs myself.

As far as changing schools, I’d assume many of us didn’t have that option – there was one high school in my town, my parents certainly weren’t letting me live away from home, and I had no special talent that would make people want me to come or lead to multiple adults advising me to move elsewhere.

Here's to what was suppose to be the most exciting offseason in years, but has instead spiraled downward into pitiful morass of indecision. Cheers!

by wjb1492 on Jun 18, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought he gave a decent answer.

I don’t remember which source reported it, but he said he changed schools because he was looking for the best fit for his basketball talents. To me, he came accross as a guy who at a very young age knew exactly what he was about, and while he still had the opportunity to control his own destiny he tried to do just that.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on Jun 18, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sort of Like Jordans Son?

Jordan put his younger kid in a different high school that had a better basketball program and better players so that he could get adjusted to that.

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, Bullshooter, and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light....

by piccolomair on Jun 18, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well maybe

Jordan’s kids go to Loyola Academy because it’s a prestigious school, and Michael Jordan wouldn’t send his kids to public school even if it was New Trier. Maybe it was about basketball, but I don’t think that’s the whole jist of it.

by Ozzie Montana on Jun 18, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i thought

it was the younger jordan’s own decision to switch from loyola to whitney young, not by any pressure from mj. that was the impression i got from whatever i read about it.

and hey – as an NT grad… i can “proudly” say my team faced darius miles at the state tournament or whatever, his senior year. ;) i don’t know how often NT qualified but that year they had it on TVs everywhere around the school so people could watch haha. oh New Trier.

by Jaina on Jun 18, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I didn't mean to imply there was some kind of pressure

But, these are MJ’s kids, basically whatever they want they are going to get. If they want to go to Loyola, Notre Dame, or IMSA, they would go.

by Ozzie Montana on Jun 18, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Its one thing

to change schools once or twice, but more than that seems a bit…excessive. If anything, even in the most innocent of reasons, it would seem detrimental to switch basketball programs that much. There is something to be said for sticking it out in one place for a while. You have to deal with the same people and not move on after you’ve done damage.

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Jun 18, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

In the end, I think all this supposed character stuff

won’t be what pushes Beasley out of the top spot.

I really think it will be his height. A 6’7” power forward will have a really tough time inside in today’s nba.

Beasley will have to move outside and play mostly as a small forward. He will lose some of his ball handling and quickness advantages he’s had vs power forwards.

I think he’ll still be really good…but in a Carmelo Anthony sort of way, not as a beastly inside dominator.

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by alec on Jun 18, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Unless he grows like Tyrus...

Actually I think he’ll be fine inside anyway. He may not be as tall as some, but he’s not soft or scrawny.

Here's to what was suppose to be the most exciting offseason in years, but has instead spiraled downward into pitiful morass of indecision. Cheers!

by wjb1492 on Jun 18, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm trying to think of a way to draft him as a 3.

Does that make Deng the odd man out?

…and will Hinrich be adequate to run the point? I’m generally not that big a fan of Hinrich, but could it be that he just hasn’t had anyone worth trying to pass the ball to? Would Beasley solve that problem?

A Bulls front line of Noah, Thomas and Beasley would seem to have a nice balance of offense and defense. And you gotta believe that Beasley would make Gordon’s job a whole lot easier. Don’t know about Deng’s BYC status, but I think if you trade him before signing Gordon???

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by alec on Jun 18, 2008 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, we aren't going to agree on Kirk, but what's new?

We have too many guys I like on the team. I think I’m guaranteed to be sad, either from a trade standpoint or a minutes standpoint.

Here's to what was suppose to be the most exciting offseason in years, but has instead spiraled downward into pitiful morass of indecision. Cheers!

by wjb1492 on Jun 18, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was with you until

you said “Gordon.” Had you said “Thabo” it would have been 100%.

by hlac on Jun 18, 2008 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

D Rose is great...

... but Beasley together with Noah & TT will be off the hook!!!

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by Vangelis on Jun 19, 2008 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

In today's NBA, size is becoming less of a factor

This is especially true at the PF position where more and more players with perimeter skills are playing. In the dead ball era of the NBA, when the position of PF was there to stand tall, rebound, and knock opponents on their ass for coming into the lane, height was more important. Are we watching the same games? Either way, a player as skilled as Beasley is likely to find a way to score whether or not they give a couple inches to the guy defending them.

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by snley on Jun 19, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I want my #1 picks do play on both ends.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 19, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Should have thrown in a disclaimer with that post

I’m not advocating Beasley over Rose. I’m just trying to get alec to shut the hell up about Beasley not fitting in as a PF in “today’s NBA” because he’s 2 inches shorter than ideal.

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by snley on Jun 19, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've rethought it, and I love Beasley as a power forward.

I also love him as a small forward.

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by alec on Jun 19, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

PF?

Are we fooling ourselves into thinking this guy is a PF who is going to play in the post? I think he is more Carmelo Anthony then Elton Brand.

by chlutz508 on Jun 18, 2008 8:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

RE: PF?

Definitely Dude… He may have the muscle to bang and the standing reach to hold his own in the paint, but i’d rather see him do that against 6’6’‘-6’9’’ SFs than 6’10”-7’0” PFs. After watching these playoffs, you can see a similarity to Beasley’s and Paul Pierce’s game (plus Leon Powes ability to get to the line).

Seriously how crazy is the fact that every time Powe went up, he got the lay-up and/or Foul.

by Rodman91 on Jun 18, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

At least someone agrees with me

That said, we dont have a player on the roster that can do what Beasley can do.

by chlutz508 on Jun 18, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Beasely can do things

but you have to get him the ball. In this area I think teams will struggle to get it into him. He’ll be fronted by defenders with someone cheating on the back side if they try to go over the top.

by NBA Observer on Jun 18, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I Disagree.

Beasley doesn’t need to receive the ball in the post.

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by alec on Jun 18, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreeance.

Especially if we’re continuing with the Pierce comparison. Beasley will be able to break down the defense and generate an inside-out game either in the post or on the drive. And if he’s playing SF, I don’t doubt that he’ll be able to post up almost anyone set to guard him (especially after playing PF for so long).

I used to be a very pro-Rose guy. After reading more about Beasley, I’d be fine with him too. I think it would mean more radical changes to the roster, but I think he’s a sure thing. Either way it goes, we’ve got a franchise cornerstone.

by arjoseph on Jun 18, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

6'10 or 6'10...

... Beasley is a player with the personality to make things happen and the skills to become a great scorer in the league.

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by Vangelis on Jun 19, 2008 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

but what if he's 6'10"?

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 19, 2008 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So now Beasley is a small forward?

The Fizer alarm pops up yet again.

by RogersPark Kris on Jun 18, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lakers interior D is shit

ABC crew thinks Odom is a strong defender. They think Gasol is too. When did that happen?

The Lakers are mediocre to poor defensive team especially in crunch time. They’re not stopping anyone in the post. They’re best bet is push the player further out and then double him.

by NBA Observer on Jun 18, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Powe's a PF

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by snley on Jun 18, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

6-10 to 7-0 power forwards?

Do you realize that the Celtics just won the title with James Posey playing the bulk of the power forward minutes? With the new hand checking rules, teams play smaller more often with shooters to space the floor, so guys have room to penetrate.

by rb22 on Jun 18, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The bulk?

Posey did play some PF minutes. Mostly it was in losses.

by NBA Observer on Jun 18, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wasn't it their primary 4th quarter lineup?

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 18, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

(especially before PJ Brown came aboard)

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 18, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What regular season?

Was Posey playing PF in the regular season? The Celtics played so many postseason games I’ve completely forgotten there was a regular season.

rb22 brought up the title so I took that to mean the path in the postseason to get there.

meh. I like small ball. I just like small ball when they can play effective defense and still rebound defensively.

by NBA Observer on Jun 18, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just Losses?

They used small ball in the wins too. One of the statheads could probably look this up for us. Posey played the 4 for them alot in regaular and postseason, and he’s usually their 4 to close games in the 4th quarter.

I would say most of the good teams actually close games with small ball, because that is usually their best offensive lineup. The Lakers often put Radmanovic at the 4, Kobe at the 3, and 2 of Farmar, Sasha, and Fisher. The Spurs usually play Duncan with 4 smalls too when they close games with Manu, Parker, and 2 of Barry, Finley, and Udoka.

The NBA is different now with the no hanchecking rules. If you have a guy who can penetrate and make plays, he can do it all day as long as you space the floor for him with shooters. This is why I think we should draft Rose. This is why I think Gordon will be great with him in the backcourt. This is why I think we can play the Noce/Deng combo forward lineup a decent amount. This is why I hope Deng is really working on becoming a better catch and shoot player from 3. This is why I think we need a big who is a better shooter/scoring threat than what we currently have.

I undertand the need to be able to have flexibilty in the roster with the ability to play bigger too, but I think most people on here overvalue size and undervalue shooting and spacing the floor and how much this will help Rose.

by rb22 on Jun 18, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The last sentence is a good point

Posey is a very good defender and 3-point shooter… kind of what we wish Noc was. I’m not sold that Beasley would chase around the oversized swingmen (LeBron, PP) that the “undersized 4” is usually responsible for in those semi-small ball lineups.

by potato0328 on Jun 18, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Beasly audio interviews on 6/17

Mully and Hanley

Waddle and Silvy

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 18, 2008 9:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Let's face it

the guy looks short. Muscley, but short.

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by MPG on Jun 18, 2008 9:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

he has Ben Wallace calves too... Nooooo!

by hscs on Jun 18, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

6'7 is...

... tall enough for what he can bring to the game. Stop being obsessed with this. The whole point of Beasley is that he is versatile and can adapt to whoever is guarding him. He can score both inside and outside…

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by Vangelis on Jun 19, 2008 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How tall is vdn?

Beasley looks only taller by only two inches.

by Blacknight23 on Jun 18, 2008 9:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Beasley's knees are bent and VDN is standing straight up

plus Vinny has the poofy hair, makes him look a little taller than he really is.

by fundamentallysound on Jun 18, 2008 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i found 6'4"

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/vinny_del_negro/index.html

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by tyrus4prez on Jun 18, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So that means....

....Hes 6’2”....

by chlutz508 on Jun 18, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's not necessarily true.

Heights weren’t as inflated in the NBA in the past with the exception of a few players who really needed to inflate their heights If you look at the draftexpress database many players were listed at their barefoot height because that was the only measurement the NBA took at the combine.

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by Scotter on Jun 18, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

do we really need to do photo guessing?

he was just measured a couple weeks ago.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 18, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The only things we can really learn from the above photo:

- MB is sporting the new Jordans
- MB has a growing tattoo collection
- MB looks good in black and red
- VDN has a belly
- VDN’s hair cut is borderline mullet, and it makes him look like Mitch Albom:

by smash! on Jun 18, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Round Mound of Rebound II?

After listening to Beasley and reading his interviews, it’s not really like he sounds like a bad guy… to me he just seems to have the same sort of personality as Chuck. He just seems to be living on his terms and to not have any remorse about that at all. I’m not sure if that’s a good thing or a bad thing honestly… it certainly was both during Barkley’s career. I do think that the psychological evaluations will likely play more into the Bulls’ draft decision than they typically would.

by micah on Jun 18, 2008 10:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree

He sounds like a good guy. I think he is being somewhat unfairly demonized. Doesn’t mean we should take him, but still.

John Paxson has been like family to me. I can no more disown him than I can disown my white grandmother, who also was unable to pull off any deals for superstar free agents or hire a top-notch coach.

by preverbal on Jun 18, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I find it particularly funny that last year one of the big selling points for Joakim

was the need for some “personality” on the team. Apparently that’s no longer a good thing?

Not to mention, it’s interesting when people take his interactions with the media as a sign he’s not taking this seriously. I think he just likes to play to the camaras.

Here's to what was suppose to be the most exciting offseason in years, but has instead spiraled downward into pitiful morass of indecision. Cheers!

by wjb1492 on Jun 18, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

who doesn't like to play to people of Portugese descent?

by hscs on Jun 18, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

HA!

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by Goostafer on Jun 18, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

just noticed your sig

Is that from Obama’s interview with Jimmy Kimmel?

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by alec on Jun 18, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes it was

"I'm a Bulls fan," -Barack Obama

by Goostafer on Jun 18, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eh, that and consensus I always have trouble with. Nice snark.

Here's to what was suppose to be the most exciting offseason in years, but has instead spiraled downward into pitiful morass of indecision. Cheers!

by wjb1492 on Jun 18, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Joakim provides enough personality for now.

We need to focus on restocking our “serious.”

by potato0328 on Jun 18, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

size complaints

kinda hard to take seriously considering that our SG is 6’1”

by darksmokepuncher on Jun 18, 2008 10:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Has anybody found video

how his press conference after his work-out?

Last year, Bulls.com had all that video, but I haven’t see it on their site yet.

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by alec on Jun 18, 2008 10:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

maybe they're nervous

the Wolves hosted video of Brook Lopez’s workout, and it showed his shot getting blocked by an assistant coach. Whoops.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 18, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Matt,

Do you have a link, or was that video taken down?

by kingj41 on Jun 18, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

here

http://www.canishoopus.com/2008/6/9/549040/video-of-brook-see-brook-l

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 18, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yikes

That was not good.

by NBA Observer on Jun 18, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Firefox 3 blows up when facing a WMV just like Fiefox 2

Disappointing. Not as disappointing as Brook’s workout, but disappointing all the same.

by hscs on Jun 18, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can't stop laughing

at those short shorts….

by gman2849 on Jun 18, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

nice work KC (never thought I'd say that!)

His Beasley story is good. He caught some quotes that I haven’t seen anywhere else. Plus, his whole story had a nice, positive feel—I guess I was expecting him to subtly rip on Beasley.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/cs-080617-michael-beasley-chicago-bulls,1,1899385.story

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by alec on Jun 18, 2008 11:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Since he knows Tyrus is going to be traded

maybe he expects the Bulls to draft Beasley and just wanted to make him feel welcome before ripping him at the behest of the organization.

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by snley on Jun 18, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

From a reporter's perspective

Beasley’d probably be your first choice. You can already tell the guy’s gonna be a quote machine.

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by alec on Jun 18, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

maybe

but it has to be weighed against the easy guaranteed ‘coming home’ stories ;-)

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 18, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

True.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on Jun 18, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Imagine if Bill Plaschke were in Chicago

He’s coming home.

On a jet plane.

He is home.

He walks through the door.

by Ozzie Montana on Jun 18, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

OT - Quote Seinfeld, and Thorpe shall answer!

From his chat on ESPN, happening right now:

Brett (Chicago): You’re killing independent George!!!! What was your impression of Luol and Tyrus while they trained with you? How tall do you think Tyrus is? And they are coming back later in the summer right?
SportsNation David Thorpe: (12:15 PM ET ) They are extremely dedicated professionals. Ty is 6’9+ I think, and very long. I think they’ll be back a few times, but Lu goes to London for his national team duties in July.

Nothing too new, but I thought it was post worthy(which doesn’t mean anything). I like hearing 6’9+ though.

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by BNeL21 on Jun 18, 2008 11:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

if it's OT

put it somewhere else. pllllzzzzzz

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 18, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry

I was just stoked I got my question answered and wanted to show off, as lame as that is. I posted this in the IMG thread too.

"Me like to shoot much" - Andres Nocioni

by BNeL21 on Jun 18, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fact: "MB-Easy" attended 7 high schools in 5 states over 5 short years

He was kicked out of several. Once for putting a dead rat in a teachers desk & another time for signing his autograph on every object in the school, culminating with the hood of the head master’s car. I could see changing once, maybe 3x in extreme circumstances, but 7 times in 5 years? C’mon now.

I think he’s unbelievably talented & I find him amusing & refreshingly honest, but he’s a risk. I mean, I love that he wore pajamas to school to protest a “no-shorts” rule, but can you just imagine what he’ll do when they tell him he can’t wear a headband? :)

If you haven’t read these, enjoy:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/11/AR2007031101466.html
http://www.miamiherald.com/1261/story/552881.html

And watch these:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2007/03/09/VI2007030901142.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2007/03/09/VI2007030901142.html

by smash! on Jun 18, 2008 11:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

so you think

he’ll wear pajamas to the Berto or put a dead rat in Paxson’s desk?

by NormVanBeer on Jun 18, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he does like fun

A stuffed Wolverine might be more applicable for Paxson’s taste.

by NBA Observer on Jun 18, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah a dead leprachaun might warrant a trade for Sene

I do think his pranks are funny, at least he has a sense of humor that isn’t created and polished by blood-suckling agents and Nike.

by Ozzie Montana on Jun 18, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Speaking of Berto

He fights on Sat night!

by Option27 on Jun 18, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That WashP article was linked here a long time ago.

The only part in that was at all cautionary was the story about Beasley acting up in practice when they were getting ready ot play KU and the coach wanted the team to get serious.

Can we get a ruling from wjb about how that game turned out?

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on Jun 18, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, it's a year old...

it says that at the top of the article. I posted it because there are alot of misinformed people in this forum and I thought links to a few good articles would help clarify some things.

If you read those articles and came away with the thought that Beasley acting up in practce was his only misgiving, you shouldre-read. There are alot more warning flags then that…

by smash! on Jun 18, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here's the opposed point of view...

” target=”_blank”>http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/8238982/Beasley:‘How-mature-do-you-want-me-to-be?’

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on Jun 18, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I prefer to focus on the national championship.

Here's to what was suppose to be the most exciting offseason in years, but has instead spiraled downward into pitiful morass of indecision. Cheers!

by wjb1492 on Jun 18, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

my apologies...

but thank you.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on Jun 18, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seriously, and I've said this before,

Beasley was great in every game I saw him play in. I live in Big 12 country, attend a Big 12 school, and am a graduate of another Big 12 school, so I saw him play a lot. Obviously I have no idea what he’s like in practice, but I never saw him goofing around during a game other than the celebrating they did right at the end of the game in Manhattan when they beat KU, which is totally understandable after ending a 25 game losing streak on your home court.

And as a KU fan, I can say that Beasley terrified me in a way Rose never did.

Here's to what was suppose to be the most exciting offseason in years, but has instead spiraled downward into pitiful morass of indecision. Cheers!

by wjb1492 on Jun 18, 2008 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm completely sold on Beasley.

I have no character concerns…in fact, from what I’ve read/heard/seen, I’d say his character is a net plus.

Beasley seems like the kind of a guy who can lift a team mate up when he’s feeling down or loosen things up when they get too tight.and wound up.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on Jun 18, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do you know him personally? Have you played with him?

If the answer is no, then you can’t really be sold on him based on what you have read/seen/heard. And you can’t know that his character is a plus. And I can’t be absolutely sure that he’d be a bas seed. He could be amazingly entertaining off and on the basketball court, and I could adore him. Honestly, I want to love this guy.

But, no one can take these 3 things he did and widdle them down to “no big deals” or “overblown”. No spin can make it ok that he:

- Locked a dead rat in his teachers desk drawer. Where do you get a dead rat? Can you imagine the malicious coordination that went into that? Can you imagine being that teacher?

- Autographed the hood of the Head Master’s brand new car. Imagine walking out to your new car and seeing someone accidentally dented it. Now imagine instead of a dent, someone purposely wrote “MB-EASY” on the hood of your car… real big… with a sharpie.

- He attended 7 high schools in 5 states over 5 years.
Do you really think that screams “franchise player?” How long do you think it’ll take him to wear out his welcome? Or for him to get bored?

by smash! on Jun 18, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah we all read it the first time you posted it

and like a month and a half ago when the article first resurfaced.

by Orlando Woolridge on Jun 18, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't find your argument the least bit compelling.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on Jun 18, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah it really isn't a big deal

There’s no reason he can’t mature like a normal adult, you’re assuming that the way someone is at the age of 19 is the way he is for the rest of his life. You don’t know him personally either, so basing his personality on his oddball pranks is pretty weird. How do you know that Derrick Rose is a great guy? Because people tell you?

by Ozzie Montana on Jun 18, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Uh

If the answer is no, then you can’t really be sold on him based on what you have read/seen/heard.

Everything you listed you read/seen/heard so…by your own rules you shouldn’t discredit him because of the list you made either. Unless you tasted him perhaps. Have you tasted him? Smelled, perhaps? Did he smell of trouble?

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Jun 18, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No.

My whole point was that you can’t believe stories or hearsay, but that those 3 facts couldn’t be spun in any way, no matter how hard one might try, to make me not worry about them raising huge flags. But oh well, I give up. Clearly I shouldn’t worry. If the Bulls draft him I really do hope you’re all right.

(And I really didn’t realize “dead rats are pretty plentiful.” Who knew?)

by smash! on Jun 18, 2008 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I live in the country - all sorts of dead stuff out here.

Here's to what was suppose to be the most exciting offseason in years, but has instead spiraled downward into pitiful morass of indecision. Cheers!

by wjb1492 on Jun 18, 2008 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Like I said below

most of the jocks I knew in high school did the same kind of things and they became bankers etc. Beasley is at least going to just be a basketball player. Perhaps I don’t expect much out of athletes, especially what they were up to in high school. We certainly hire people who have done similar in other jobs without much comment and allow them to run the world. I doubt Beasley will be creatively using rats in the Bulls locker room and pranks in high school does not mean he is going to become a DUI logging / night club fighting guy either. Although there is plenty of dead animals in Chicago should he decide to pick up where he left off.

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Jun 18, 2008 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can't speak to everything, but dead rats are actually pretty plentiful,

and I doubt that’s the worst thing that’s happened to many teachers, honestly.

Maybe you were a saint as a teenager, but I think I’d almost give Beasley a run for his money, except I had a special talent for not getting caught. And while a remember some of our escapades fondly, they are still things I wouldn’t do now because I grew up. I choose to give Beasley the same chance.

I’m amazed that this kind of stuff seems to be getting almost the same concern as guys have gotten with DUIs, assault charges, theft charges, etc.

Here's to what was suppose to be the most exciting offseason in years, but has instead spiraled downward into pitiful morass of indecision. Cheers!

by wjb1492 on Jun 18, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The jocks

back when I was in high school would often do pranks (with live animals a few times) and were entitlement junkies who thought they were (and were treated as though) they were top of the food chain in school. Yet some of these same guys became bankers and lawyers and other important people. Perhaps we are lucky Beasley is just a basketball player. If anything it doesn’t seem to have hurt his game at all.

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Jun 18, 2008 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Damn, I wish

I’d known you when you were younger. We would have gotten along very well.

by sue369 on Jun 19, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

uh, Sue...as I recall

wjb hopped off the bus with the kids at church camp only to find you lighting fires in the woods.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on Jun 19, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wonder if

he’ll have to sing the KU fight song? Nah, probably not!!

by hlac on Jun 18, 2008 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can't believe...

... how an*l some people are regarding Beasley’s high school pranks. Get a life, please!!!!!

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by Vangelis on Jun 19, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was pulling worse pranks at high school...

... and I now work in financial services management.

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by Vangelis on Jun 19, 2008 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know an "account executive" who can't afford a cell phone!

by hscs on Jun 19, 2008 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Congratulations??

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by Vangelis on Jun 19, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just some more facts to add to my above post...

This is from The Wichita Eagle in Kansas so I assume it’s a bit pro-MB, but here’s their explanation for Mike’s bad rap:
http://www.kansas.com/sports/story/421117.html

Another fact, people keep saying “he’s just a goof but there’s no criminal record.” I guess they’re not counting the time he was sentenced to 2-weeks house arrest for slashing tires. Granted he was 12 or 13 and I’m sure he’s come a long way in the past 6 years.

by smash! on Jun 18, 2008 12:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

What is everyone's thoughts about this Q&A

Q. What do you know about the current Bulls players?

A. “I know one player’s a great fourth-quarter player. I know they’ve got one Jayhawk (Kirk Hinrich or Drew Gooden) I’m going to have to work really hard to get along with. I don’t know too much about any player. I know a little bit about most. I met some of them, like six.”

I’m assuming it’s Kirk he’d have to get a long with, since you’d think they would trade Gooden if they drafted Beasley. Do you all assume that too? Why would he have to work hard to get along with Kirk? Does Kirk not like K-State? Is Kirk demanding on players behind the scenes? Does he have to get along with Kirk because if the Bulls draft Beasley they are keeping Kirk?

by Mattchoo on Jun 18, 2008 12:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Because Kansas and Kansas State are rivals.

It’s a joke about college rivalries.

formerly sbulls

by Scotter on Jun 18, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol that was way too in-depth

by Ozzie Montana on Jun 18, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're reading WAAAAY too deep man.

And I don’t think he realized Gooden was a Jay-hawk. No rookie makes assumptions about personnel moves before they’re even drafted.

There are a ton of teams out there, he hasn’t followed the Bulls every move (or non-move IMO) like we have; he really doesn’t know too much about them, that’s all.

by smash! on Jun 18, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Haha that's obvious.

He’s a joker – you have to take all his responses with a grain of salt.

by swede2287 on Jun 18, 2008 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i like B'easy

i just want the guy who is more serious about this whole situation. plus, i get the impression that b’easy is trying way too hard to be funny. it is so obvious when people do that, its easy to pick up on. i can see his personality clashing with our current roster more as opposed to rose.

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE

by CONOR6 on Jun 18, 2008 12:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

present company excluded, of course...

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 18, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ha!

huh?

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on Jun 18, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

B-Easy or D Rose

it’s really win- win right? i want a better team. But even moore importantly i want a player who is that key peice to a championship team. that’s who we need and i hope we draft. drafting the next cp3 would be great even the next carmello or dirk. but whoever it is we can’t miss. i don’t see d rose bein like lebron for clevelend, being the home town savior- the king is just a freak of nature. so i hope we pick the right guy and draft the next FINAL’S MVP not just a ‘franchise’ player. it also has to be a player that strikes fear in the other team. look what KG just did mentally to the lakers? they lost the series before it started because KG was just that force that woke them up in the middle of the night. who know’s maybe this kid is the next 6’8 KG, hey KG seems a little crazy at times but all the greats are in their own ways right? Rodman anyone?.

by AFireInside661 on Jun 18, 2008 10:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

12 new posts on this thread, 11 by Vangelis

I still wonder who he wants the Bulls to draft though :-)

The Game chose him !

by Diabolo on Jun 19, 2008 9:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

hey

someone has to make up that 25% :)

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 19, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry about the number of posts!

I appreciate that on some issues (like this one) not all of us will ever agree, but I am very passionate about drafting Beasley and sadly I don’t see many other people arguing in favour of choosing him over Rose!

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by Vangelis on Jun 19, 2008 9:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Our 25%..

... is disproportionately less vocal than the 75%:)

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by Vangelis on Jun 19, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wouldn't it be

proportionate?

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 19, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey Matt...

... I mean that although the opinion poll shows that 25% would choose beasley, the percentage of vocal (i.e who post regularly) Beasley supporters seems to be far less than 25%!

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by Vangelis on Jun 19, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs