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The signals suggesting that Mike D'Antoni and the Phoenix Suns will soon part company are only getting stronger.

The loudest hint yet that a divorce is forthcoming came Sunday night when KTAR Radio (620 AM) in Phoenix reported that D'Antoni has suddenly been granted permission to speak with other teams, including Chicago and New York, about their coaching openings.

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If D'Antoni's upset about the "rules" proposed by Kerr and Sarver...

...w/ one of them presumably being more practice time devoted to defense, how is he going to deal w/ an organizational mentality built around defense and nit-picking rules and constraints? If he came, though, I think it would force the organization to loosen up a little. Of course, they’ll both (team and D’Antoni) will be willingly choosing the other side, so hopefully they recognize this (surely), and it will be a happy complement of philosophies and not an ugly contrast of styles that ends poorly.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 5, 2008 8:56 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

headbands aside

it looked more and more like the organization was ‘hands-off’ to a fault.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 5, 2008 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's my impression, too.

I kept waiting for Paxson to assert himself in any way, but particularly about Boylan’s lineups and rotations. It’s impossible for me to believe Paxson didn’t want to see more Tyrus pt than Boylan gave us.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on May 5, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, if Boylan's reign of incompetence is any indication of the future

Paxson’s not likely to interfere in the way D’Antoni runs practices or offensive sets.

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on May 5, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It sounds like Paxson has some of the magic left
Carlisle dropped out of contention even before he stood poised to land the Mavericks’ job.

K.C.’s every interview is official piece.

by hscs on May 5, 2008 9:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I really hope he becomes our new coach.

His up tempo run and gun style would be a great fit with the Bulls young roster.

by MAN in the BOX on May 5, 2008 9:09 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What is more likely and easy :

1) Get a D’Antoni and find a great team of assistants for the defensive part (although D’Antoni may very well be adept at adapting to a more defensive minded roster like they have in Chicago, he may just have played to the strength of his players in Phoenix)

2) Get another “general” (even a little one), and find some great experienced offense-minded assistants with awesome player management skills.

The Game chose him !

by Diabolo on May 5, 2008 9:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I have two worries.

First, did Paxson have the foresight to clear space on his calendar for D’Antoni in the event he became available, or is D’Antoni stuck behind Thibodeau , waiting for the next five-day break in the Celtics schedule?

Second, even if Paxson makes a date with D’Antoni, will Paxson go into it thinking that the Bulls job is so sweet that he expects D’Antoni to sell himself to the Bulls rather than the other way around?

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on May 5, 2008 9:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously?

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 5, 2008 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On your first point.

Seriously ? What other things does Paxson have on his agenda right now that is more important than finding the best coach for his team ? What could possibly prevent him from meeting D’Antoni today or tomorrow (except D’Antoni’s own agenda) ?

The Game chose him !

by Diabolo on May 5, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

kidding on both points...

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on May 5, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fresh start

This would be such a refreshing feeling if D’Antoni coached the bulls. I think it would clean last year’s toxic fumes from the air. The hard defense approach always made me feel that they were trying to hide our lack of offensive coaching (maybe offensive talent, but lets hope not).

by serbstream on May 5, 2008 10:14 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Correct
The hard defense approach always made me feel that they were trying to hide our lack of offensive coaching (maybe offensive talent, but lets hope not).

We should give our opponents more credit. They did scheme against our offense which really wasn’t much to speak about anyway. Our defense is what kept us in games, and competitive in the division. The defense did drop off, but to be down 15 points in the first half in home games is a sign that the problems were much more than defensive lapses.

A strong offense would be a great asset for the Bulls entering next season. We certainly need something that will force opponents to do more than make Ben Gordon make things happen with the ball in his hands.

by NBA Observer on May 5, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Happy players that for most of them are naturally very adept on defense...

...and that will bring defensive effort (solving the deterioration problem of this year).

In other words, if they like the coach a lot and respect him, they will care.

The Game chose him !

by Diabolo on May 5, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

While D'Antoni probably wouldn't get this team back to the top of the defensive rankings

he should be able to get them near the top in Def Eff while still stressing offense in practices. The Bulls finished 14th in Defensive Efficiency this year and more consistent effort should come simply from having a coach the players like. The Suns consistently finished in the middle of the pack in defense while playing much worse defensive players than the Bulls currently have. D’Antoni may not stress D in practice, but he was doing something right on that end the last few years. The more difficult job for whoever the new coach is will be improving that 26th ranked offense.

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on May 5, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly.

suns were an average defensive team, while playing amare and nash extensively. we naturally have a better defensive team, but a horrible offense, so we need someone to boost our 30th in FG% offense.

by Jaina on May 5, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does D'Antoni have any meaningful

experience developing young players?

Also, how has he handled his bench historically?

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by 1958ChiTown on May 5, 2008 11:22 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Diaw, Barbosa, and Amare were all young players that were developing

I think those guys have turned out OK. These players just never had development on defense. Our roster already has that development. It was impossible to not to develop it. If you didn’t, Skiles and Boylan wouldn’t play you.

So you might say were already developed defensively, we just need something on offense that will help develop our guys.

by NBA Observer on May 5, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Diaw and Barbossa

both took steps back. I wouldn’t say D’Antoni is a great developer of talent.

2008 or bust.

by bullshooter on May 5, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think this was answered in the last thread

about d’antoni…something around the jist of he developed Amare, Barbosa, and gave nash the push towards his mvps. In terms of bench, it was said that pheonix only usually uses about 8 guys in a game. I think he can develop tyrus and teach him how to “run” and “jump higher” and maybe give tyrus the much needed boost to get going. Same with our guards, i think he can give them direction on when to pass when to shoot, and the best ways to attack the rim. I think its guys like aaron gray and gooden who might really suffer, and i fear what hughes might be thinking playing for the d’antoni style of play. I mean, i hope he doesnt think he can run and gun as a one man army…i dont know if i can watch that.

im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on May 5, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gooden should be able to keep up with such a pace.

In fact, Gooden should get plenty of PT if D’Antoni would be willing to go with a three man rotation up front. Gray should be hoping that Paxson trades or releases him if D’Antoni is brought on.

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on May 5, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go go D'Antoni go!

Or go go Gadget D’Antoni!

Or see D’Antoni. See D’Antoni run.

I’m giddy. Its all well and good to agonize over what ifs, but its a miracle that the Bulls may have a shot at a coach like D’Antoni. A freakin’ miracle.

Yes we can. Yes we can hire D'Antoni. Yes we can.
Scoing 109 points/game is change we can believe in.

by preverbal on May 5, 2008 11:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

giddy

sums up the way i feel perfectly.

i think if Pax gets this done it would be the best day from a Bulls standpoint for me since Jordan faced “Byron” Russell out of his jock that night in the SLC.

by Orlando Woolridge on May 5, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OTOH...

...w/ “naturally defensive” guys, getting D’Antoni would be the opposite of getting a coach to fit the players, as, I think, Sam Smith said Paxson said he was going to do. A number of “smart people” think the Bulls would be suited to an offense like D’Antoni’s, but who really knows?

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 5, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

me too

As a season ticket holder, I just want to watch an interesting team. Last season, it was really f’in hard to go to games. Felt like a chore.

Obviously, I really want the Bulls to be good. However, if they’re going to suck, they might as well be entertaining while sucking. I’ll take a run and gun suck over the crap we saw last season.

by Moses Taylor on May 5, 2008 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We have to hire D'Antoni if we can

If D’Antoni is available, the Bulls have to do everything in their power to get him. There isn’t a coach in the world who would be better for what the Bulls need right now. Guys were beaten down by Skiles and need to get their confidence back and start having fun playing basketball again.

And stop it with the defensive concerns. Defense is mostly effort, and guys will play harder for D’Antoni, because they’ll get more into the flow offensively, and the energy will carry over to the defense. We obviously have the personnel to play defense. Guys just weren’t putting in the effort and focus, because they hated the coach and weren’t having fun playing anymore.

As bad as last season was, we shouldn’t be in that bad of shape. Hiring D’Antoni would be the first step to getting things back on track followed by evaluating the roster and seeing who will fit into his system and seeing what value guys have on the trade market. Hopefully a change or 2 as well as using the #9 pick wisely (either in a trade package or for a player who can help) can get us back in the mix in the East.

by rb22 on May 5, 2008 11:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pax needs to get his mojo back

Hurry up and sign Mr. D before your posturing winds up forcing the Bulls to settle for some leftover. Toronto would love to have him and he is in the driver’s seat. The PR value alone of this move is invaluable. Basketball would be rejuvinated in Chicago, so open up the Reinsdorf’s vault so the Bulls can open up the vault of the crypt they spent this season in.

The fans are not impressed that you are going to interview everyone who is available and has a pulse to show what a wise man you are rather than act mpulsively. This isn’t Tibet and you are not the Dali Llama, Pax. Get out that checkbook, and make the call now. You can revitalize your reputaton and the franchise if you do. If you want to permenantly remove the stain of Boylan forever, do it now before you blow it again.

If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard

by Tyrusmancrush on May 5, 2008 12:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Seems like the last time Pax tried to make a big splash

we all got to spend the next couple of years watching Ben Wallace not jump.

My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!

by wjb1492 on May 5, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think several people saw that coming

But were blinded by the “Pax does no wrong” credo and refused to admit it was a stupid move. It was a bad signing, every team makes them, we must move forward from it. At least we’re still not tied up with contracts to Charlie Bell, Bobby Simmons, and Dan Gadzuric.

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 5, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've moved forward from that

But suggestions that Pax “hurry up” and do something, or that PR alone makes it worthwhile bring that signing back to mind. I don’t want Pax sitting on his thumbs out of fear of screwing up any more than anyone else. But I do think this is a significant decision – I don’t think I’d say D’Antoni is so much of a genious that he should be offered the job immediately.

But I suppose at least a coaching mistake is a little easier to get out from under than a bad long-term player’s contract.

My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!

by wjb1492 on May 5, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Time to stop playing around

You hit the nail on the head. Time to stop preening. as Tyrusmancrush said, crack the whip. Go get your man Pax. Nail it down early and get this franchise moving again.

by SlamDunk on May 5, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was fast

Didn’t Pax just go on vacation or was that just last week?

by NBA Observer on May 5, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was a joke

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on May 5, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i was

extremely pleased to read this considering it’s not like he flew out to see avery right away. particularly because if they flew out last night, it was pretty much before the news broke that d’antoni was even allowed to speak to other teams.

by Jaina on May 5, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, it was the vacation portion that was a joke

I was shocked to see that Paxson flew to Phoenix alread

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on May 5, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If D'Antoni gets hired

BG and Deng have to be the happiest of the bunch. Both are perfect for this offense, and I think D’Antoni can get both of them to be more aggressive, getting more trips to the foul line, attacking the rims, trying to be better finishers instead of settling for outside jumpers.

He has a track record of developing talent. Amare, Marion, Diaw, and Barbosa all exceeded expectations under him. Nash had his best seasons ever under him, and let’s not forget how a career scrub like Raja Bell became a starter and one of the best shooters in the league under D’Antoni. He even managed to integrate Shaq somewhat well after the trade, which must have been ridiculously difficult to accomplish on the fly in the midst of a playoff race.

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 5, 2008 12:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Can't or won't?

Shawn Marion wasn’t a great 3 point shooter. His percentages went down every season since D’Antoni was a head coach, and that didn’t stop them from being a great outside shooting team. And, if D’Antoni does get hired, I wouldn’t be shocked to see Deng start launching 2 a game at the behest of his new coach.

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 5, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't it the Bulls coaches

that encouraged Deng to ignore the 3pt shot and work on developing his shot from 12-18 feet? Deng talked about improving his FG% after his second season and the best way the staff told him to get there was to avoid working on long range perimeter shooting and just focus on the midrange game where Deng was already a solid shooter.

by NBA Observer on May 5, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Basically

But, at the beginning of last season, he stated he wanted to start developing more of a 3 point shot, since he had his midrange jumper down pat. He was shooting them more often in the early parts of the preseason, but went away from it after injuries and the season became a colossal waste of time. He doesn’t need to shoot 4-5 threes a game, although I wouldn’t mind seeing Hinrich and Gordon attempting that many. If he shoots 1-2 a game, I’m convinced he could shoot as well as Marion in Phoenix (30-33%).

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 5, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Deng does certain things very well.

He runs around relentlessly and finds little screen opportunities, and when he finds them he’s got good hands to catch and shoot a very effective mid-range jump shot. A coach with a good offensive imagination should be able to figure out how to put Deng’s strong points in play.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on May 5, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would hiring D'Antoni help with contract negotiations?

Not that there is any information to support the notion, but maybe BG and Deng weren’t exactly jazzed up about 5 years of guaranteed money playing for Scott Skiles.

by NBA Observer on May 5, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that had to do more with the cashflow

They would have showed you jazz hands had Paxson offered 65 million.

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 5, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're kinda right about Deng

As a small forward who’s not really a 3 point shooter or a ball handler/playmaker, he isn’t necessarily a great fit, but it depends who is in the game with him. If he and Nocioni are at the forwards together it works, because Noce can space the floor. If it’s a more conventional lineup with Tyrus or Gooden at the 4 though, they lack some of the spacing and outside shooting that’s more ideal to play the way D’Antoni wants to play.

I’m not advocating starting Noce and Deng at the forwards though, because I think Tyrus has the potential to be great in this system. I guess what I’m saying is that I would be more open to dealing Deng if D’Antoni gets the job… or Maybe Deng works hard on improving his 3 point range and his ball handling/playmaking. He is only 23 and is already a pretty good shooter. Plus, I think Mike D would probably give him the green light and instill some confidence in him like he did with guys like Bell and Marion who were never known as 3 point shooters before.

by rb22 on May 5, 2008 1:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Paxson's last big splash was a belly flop of monumental proportions, but

he recovered somewhat on his last dive by dumping our biggest albatross, Ben Nopointsnofreethrowsnodesire Wallace. If he pulls this one off I think most judges would give him a perfect 10. Every player on the roster has to be salivating with the possibility of playing for a players coach who not only can teach. motivate and knows how to win, but also has a sense of humor where everyone around him can share in the laugh. Boylan tried to be clever and funny but never realized people were laughing at him, not with him.

If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard

by Tyrusmancrush on May 5, 2008 1:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Knock on wood, please

I’m absolutely ecstatic at the thought of this occurring, but it seems to good to be true. We shall see.

by Illini15 on May 5, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Salivating

I think all the stars are realigning, and Pax should take D’Antoni’s availability as a sign that indicates the second coming of the Bulls. My guy Noah will be happy and this could only spell good things for a stud like Tyrus. Some things happen for a reason. Out with vindictive, negative trash like Skiles and in with a breath of fresh air like D’Antoni. The only way D’Antoni doesn’t end up in Chicago is if Paxson proves to be brain dead.

by SlamDunk on May 5, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's the Larry Hughes angle in this?

Chances are he can’t get traded and won’t be banished to the inactive list. His shooting as has been terrible and if D’Antoni comes in we assume he’ll only get more looks right? Is there a positive in this? He lead the league in steals a few years ago. Perhaps a more up tempo game can let him flourish in transition and points off turnovers?

by The90sBullsRevival on May 5, 2008 1:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe an even greater pace would help or

just hope that D’Antoni goes with a short bench and severely limits Hughes’s minutes.

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on May 5, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the Bulls were #2 in opponent turnovers in 2006-07

D’Antoni’s teams never sniffed that, and Hughes wasn’t around.

by hscs on May 5, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hopefully D'Antoni can encourage him to get to the FT line more

instead of jacking up those God-awful mid-range jumpers

by Illini15 on May 5, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

give up the dream

Larry Hughes is Larry Hughes. He should be the 4th guard.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 5, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, i know

i was trying to be optimistic for once. bah.

by Illini15 on May 5, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hughes is likely to take as many fewer shots

as he is fewer dollars on his contract.

I’m with Matt, but just make him he 5th guard.

by NBA Observer on May 5, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Larry Would be like the Eddie House on our team

Just let him shoot whenever and make him happy

by Option27 on May 5, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They would just shoot

I wasn’t being specific on the three’s

by Option27 on May 5, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the only thing that could screw this up (besides money)

Is the vacant Knicks GM job. D’Antoni carried two titles in Phoenix until Kerr showed up, didn’t he?

by hscs on May 5, 2008 2:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i somehow think

the knicks’ days of dual gm/coach are over.

i think money will be the only stopper.

by Jaina on May 5, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's Walsh?

Didn’t that ESPN article basically say that Walsh and Paxson have the same titles?

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 5, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Walsh is President of the Knicks

I haven’t seen anything mentioning that he’s even looking for a GM. Who knows if that means he’s actually taking on personnel responsibilities or going to hand those over to the eventual coach?

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on May 5, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I stand corrected

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on May 5, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 5, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Walsh is building an executive chain

like the one he built in Indiana. The Simons are better owners than the Dolans so I’m not aware if there was friction there prior to Walsh arriving in Indianapolis, but I can see why Walsh would want strong execs in between Dolan and the Knicks coaches/players.

by NBA Observer on May 5, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That

article make the case that Walsh will hire Kenny Smith as GM and Mark Jackson as Coach.

Joakim Noah for player/coach!

by marionette on May 5, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't necessarily look for more FTAs

from BG and Lu, Ozzie. D’Antoni’s ‘05-06 Suns (minus microfracture Amare) set record for playoff team w/ fewest trips to the line.

Joakim Noah for player/coach!

by marionette on May 5, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, as soon as I wrote that I regretted it

Hey,who needs FT’s when you shoot 50% from the floor and 40% from 3 :)

Although I seem to recall that logic not working somewhere else….........

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 5, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He wore both hats for the season and a half between Colangelo and Kerr

But, if he doesn’t want to be bothered by meddling owners or executives, I don’t think he’ll want anything to do with Dolan.

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on May 5, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Willing to bet D'Antoni not going to the Knicks

I am certain that D’Antoni’s only interest is the Bulls job. They’re a young team with some explosive athletes, terrific fan base and the Jordan aura. He tried mightily to acquire Noah in the 2007 draft but the Suns were denied by the stars when things eerily, didn’t break the franchise’s way. He’ll get to coach him in Chicago. No doubt, the Knicks would love to bring D’Antoni to New York, but it’s D’Antoni’s call, and he knows that he can win a championship in Chicago.
If the Knicks hire Mark Jackson, it will be a PR move. They are looking for a reason not to be saddled with that albatross. How else can you explain their reluctance to pull the trigger on what many considered a no-brainer.

by SlamDunk on May 5, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jordan aura?

Personally, I don’t see how that matters. Chicago does have a nice championship history, but I think what’s more important to D’Antoni is that Chicago has a roster that can fit his offensive philosophy, they have a GM who isn’t going to try and interfere too much with roster changes unless it’s absolutely necessary, and that the city and franchise will openly embrace a head coach with a career head coaching record above .500 for the first time since Phil Jackson.

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 5, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

D'Antoni seems like the right guy

but where is this development aspect coming from? Diaw and Barbossa both regressed after having good year. Diaw was a contract year thing, too, I think. I don’t think developing players is one of D’Antoni’s strengths. Didn’t he get panned for only going 8 deep this year?

2008 or bust.

by bullshooter on May 5, 2008 2:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

8 deep this year

because that’s all they had to work with. They traded picks and players to get under the luxury tax even though they still broke it. Marc Stein says the Shaq trade put the Suns over the luxury tax. I don’t know how that works since Marion/Banks actually made more money together than Shaq was paid as an individual. The Suns were breaking the luxtax whether they made the trade or not.

Needless to say, the Bulls don’t have that high level talent that the Suns have, but we are a far deeper team.

by NBA Observer on May 5, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most players regress after having a good year

Still, like you, I’m curious as to how much the initial development had to do with D’Antoni as opposed to the players themselves and other members of the coaching staff who may not be following D’Antoni to his next job.

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on May 5, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amare, Diaw, Joe Johnson before the trade,

Barbossa, ... All of these are young players. It seems like D’Antoni at least put them in a position to succeed.

"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris

by bullhockey on May 5, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

One potential way to get rid of Hughes

From looking at every roster in the league, and their salary situations, the only realistic way I can potentially see getting rid of Hughes so far is by trading him to the Pacers for Jermaine O’Neal…

Both guys have terrrible contracts with 2 more years left, but Jermaine makes about 21 million with Hughes just under 13 million. If you add Gooden’s expiring deal of about 7 milion then the salaries match up. I think the Bulls might also have to throw the #9 pick into the deal to make this sweet enough for Indy though.

From the Pacers viewpoint, they save about 8 million in guaranteed salary for 2009-2010, because Gooden will be off the books after next year. They also then have the #9 and #11 picks in the draft this year to get some young talent to build with. I think O’Neal has kind of quit on them and wants out, and I think they’re in need of getting rid of some bigger contracts. Granted they still have to pay Tinsley and Troy Murphy a ton of money through 2010-2011, but maybe they can address that in another deal or 2. At least gettting rid of O’Neal gets them going in the right direction in terms of cutting salary and getting a good draft pick.

From the Bulls viewpoint, I guess the first thing is to figure out if O’Neal is washed up/too injury-prone, or if he’s just fed up with the situation in Indy and needs a change of scenery to get himself going again. He is only 29 years old and has enough skill that he should be able to play at a high level for at least the next 2 years, which he would be under contract for.

I like Noah and Thomas and don’t want to stunt their growth by not getting them enough minutes, but I think a 3 man rotation at the 4 & 5 spots of O’Neal, Noah, and Thomas could work well. That’s 32 minutes each that can be adjusted depending on who is having a good night or is in foul trouble. Plus O’Neal gives a much different look on offense than Noah or Thomas as he is a better post scorer and a better shooter out the about 17 feet. O’Neal is a good rebounder and shot blocker too, so the Bulls should be set as far as interior defense and rebounding.

I also think this helps the perimeter guys on offense and prevents them from having to try to score or create too much, because we’d have a legitimate scoring big man. This would take the load off of Hinrich, Gordon, and Deng and make us a more well rounded team offensively.

I don’t know how realistic this is, but I have been trying to think of any way possible to get rid of Highes, and I know that the only way to do it will be taking back a bad contract in return and giving up a young player or draft pick with it.

by rb22 on May 5, 2008 2:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

send them Noc instead

and keep the pick, because I’d still rather bench hughes and have Noc chuck up shots than see 40 games of an indifferent and whiny JO. However, TT and Noah would have to get more minutes if JO was always out hurt…

2008 or bust.

by bullshooter on May 5, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

O'Neal

Don’t touch him. Injury prone, and a bit of a head case.

by SlamDunk on May 5, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he could be had for Gooden, or even better Nocioni, and Hughes

he’d be worth taking a shot on. If he doesn’t produce this coming season, he makes for a nice, big expiring contract for next offseason or that season’s trade deadline.

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on May 5, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

O'Neal

Ths would only be a 2 year commitment on O’Neal as his contract is up after 2009-2010. We’re already on the hook with Gooden for 1 year and Hughes 2, so I think it could be worth it.

If it doesn’t work out next year, then the Bulls either have an expiring $22 million contract to trade or to hang onto to create cap space for the summer of 2010.

And as far as sending Nocioni instead, the Pacers are trying to cut salary and Nocioni has a longer contract. This is appealing to them, because Gooden comes off the books after next year, and they get another good pick in this year’s draft. They also already have Granger and Dunleavy, who are both really small forwards, so adding another one would not make any sense. We’re all Bulls fans here, but you have to look at these trades from both sides.

by rb22 on May 5, 2008 3:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Use the reply button. It's easy.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 5, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would be great if Indiana would be willing to take Hughes off our hands .

I think they would want at the least our first round draft pick along with Hughes and likely Gooden or Nocioni. Despite his injuries he would be a great addition. Although his offense has not been that impressive recently, he would give the Bulls another terrific defensive, shot blocking big. The Bulls could afford to rest him with his injury history because of their depth. As long as he is healthy for the playoff run, because with his addition, the Bulls would definitely make the playoffs next year (assuming D’Antoni is our coach) and get beyond the first round, at the least. Wishful thinking, maybe, but I don’t think so.

If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard

by Tyrusmancrush on May 5, 2008 3:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

See? I did it twice in a row.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 5, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you sure told him...

well played or something…

Step 1 - Hire a coach. Step 2 - ... Step 3 - Win.

by Lt.Dan on May 5, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What happens to the current coaching staff?

I will confess I am not familiar with any of the Bulls staff outside of Pete Myers, and Ron Adams because Joakim bitched him out. Regardless of what coach is hired, are they going to stay, or be let go to make room for new assistants? What will we do without Myers challenging our players to great games?

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 5, 2008 3:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hopefully they are GONE

Pete Myers? Ron Adams? pfffffft

i’m sick of the culture of losing and that’s all those guys bring to the table.

by Orlando Woolridge on May 5, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

the revisionists sure got here in a hurry…

2008 or bust.

by bullshooter on May 5, 2008 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

calling ron adams and pete myers

losers based on last season is being a little over the top, isn’t it?

2008 or bust.

by bullshooter on May 6, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would have really loved to have Avery

But what do I know?

I was the one that hated the drafting of Noah and now he’s my favorite player.

I just don’t want the Bulls to lose the defensive mind state (that they lost this year already).

I want the players happy and if that means hiring D’Antoni, then be it. As long as they’re better when they’re happy.

by Option27 on May 5, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We need Avery like we need Ron Adams.

Young stallions need room to run, not someone who will turn them into harness racers.
If you’e going to saddle them up, make sure the trainer cracking the whip is someone who recognizes this. My only concern if the Bulls let Adams go is how Noah’s psyche will handle the loss of his spiritual mentor. And then if the next shoe drops, meaning cutting Pete Myers adrift, can the Bulls really afford to lose a quality hall of famer like him? Oh wait, I was thinking of Pete Maravich.

If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard

by Tyrusmancrush on May 5, 2008 4:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Avery is pretty much the worst possible hire at this point. The players would hate him.

by Illini15 on May 5, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The New Slogan for this Year?

Its been said many places since d’anotoni’s name came up, but the new slogan for this upcoming year has to be something like “Prepare for the Running of the Bulls!!!” And if we once again become a 50+ win team, then the slogan should be “No one can escape this Stampede”.....oooh….(crosses fingers) PLEEZE HAPPEN< AND PLEASE DONT HAPPEN LIKE BEN WALLACE HAPPENED!!!!!

im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on May 5, 2008 5:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Marc Stein

Just reported on Sportscenter that he thinks it is very likely he ends up in Chicago and that Bulls players are “very excited.” Nice. Make it happen, Pax!!!!!!!!

by Illini15 on May 5, 2008 5:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

re brood mares

lol. Isn’t it bad enough they were led this year by a bunch of braying jackasses?

If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard

by Tyrusmancrush on May 5, 2008 5:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dont know if this has been said but....

knock 2 birds out with one stone and hire Dantoni to be the head coach (for our offense) and thibedo as an assistant (for our defense)

by eross226 on May 5, 2008 7:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why not go for broke with

Avery Johnson coaching defense?

Oh, that’s right. Because Reinsdorf owns this team, not Cuban.

"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris

by bullhockey on May 6, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

uh

why would Avery Johnson want to be an assistant coach?

This is a irrational-Reinsdorf-hate free zone. It’s not like you even have to look far, you want Robert Sarver owning this team? (seems like) He’s making Kerr say they want D’Antoni to remain coach just so he doesn’t have to fire him (and therefore pay him), and instead make it look like the Bulls pulled him away.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 6, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I brought it up and got a good answer

Thibadeau as of right now (well see how the playoffs fair) is on an assistant on a winning team, why would he transfer and become the assistant on a team thats one lousy season away from rebuilding. Money does make the world go around, but it depends on how much is being thrown out there, you would imagine it would have to be alot. Plus i think if thibadeau did leave Boston it would be to become head coach, i think that must be what most assistants desire.

im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on May 5, 2008 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What I'm expecting and do not know with D'Antoni

1- More threes – we certainly have the team to do this. Gordon, Hinrich, Noc, Thabo,
2- I don’t know how he will use Tyrus. This will be interesting
3- I do not know what happens with Gooden and Hughes
4- Gray will lose minutes
5- Noah should benefit from getting up and down the court
5- D’Antoni certainly is engaging and likable
6- It will be interesting to see who we draft

My primary concern will be defense. We deteriorated defensively and I’m not sure liking the coach is the solution.

by chgobr on May 5, 2008 7:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, certainly numbers 4, 5(A?) and possibly numbers 2 and 3 could help the D bounce back

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on May 5, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i mean, sure

kerr is letting dan tony talk wit teams and sure there have been many sources of dan tony leaving/getting fired, but i still wont believe that dan tony would want to come to the bulls. i wont believe anything until i see some hard-core evidence. remembr sam smith’s article on the OMG trade for AK47?! yeah, i didnt think so. i think that pax will never make things happen no matter what and he even has a history of destroying players, then trading them to blossom (ie Elton, Chandler, Artest). i am anti-Pax but even if he does get DanTony after all the effort, who’s to say it was worth the effort (ie Ben Wallace)?

Finally: The End.

by ChiTownCritic on May 5, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pax traded Brand and Artest?

Really?

I think you are misinformed.

Step 1 - Hire a coach. Step 2 - ... Step 3 - Win.

by Lt.Dan on May 5, 2008 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, no....

Um, yeah…I’m not disputing that.

Maybe read those links next time Skippy. Pax did not trade Brand or Artest. Those were Krause moves. Get your facts straight. Thanks!

Step 1 - Hire a coach. Step 2 - ... Step 3 - Win.

by Lt.Dan on May 5, 2008 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

my bad.

i guess im just so used to blaming paxson for everything :)

Finally: The End.

by ChiTownCritic on May 5, 2008 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

my name's.. not..

“skippy.”

Finally: The End.

by ChiTownCritic on May 5, 2008 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

my bad...

I blame Paxson for that.

Step 1 - Hire a coach. Step 2 - ... Step 3 - Win.

by Lt.Dan on May 5, 2008 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

heh

good one ;-)

2008 or bust.

by bullshooter on May 5, 2008 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha!

We (almost) got your coach!

Finally: The End.

by ChiTownCritic on May 5, 2008 9:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

sorry, ignore that

lol i thought i was on the Suns Blog. my bad.

Finally: The End.

by ChiTownCritic on May 5, 2008 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that...

Doesn’t surprise me.

Step 1 - Hire a coach. Step 2 - ... Step 3 - Win.

by Lt.Dan on May 5, 2008 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

boo!..

surprised?

Finally: The End.

by ChiTownCritic on May 5, 2008 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ummm....


No…

Step 1 - Hire a coach. Step 2 - ... Step 3 - Win.

by Lt.Dan on May 5, 2008 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Trib says D'Antoni wants the Bulls job

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-080505-mike-dantoni-chicago-bulls,0,1914550.story

It also says Paxson interviewed some guy named Mark Dunlap (a Denver assistant). I know nothing about the guy at all, but it would be hilarious if Paxson decided to hire a guy no one’s ever heard of over Mike D’Antoni and Avery Johnson.

by Big D on May 5, 2008 11:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

also in that article is an oddly buried Skiles contract statement...

KC (again in an offhand comment of course) writes that the organization “owes Skiles millions.” Weird how it still hasn’t been stated in a clear way how much is owed or on what terms X dollars are owed. Unless I missed it?

by micah on May 6, 2008 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

skiles is off the books

taking the milwookie head coaching job , he can’t be paid by more than one team.

even in the Donaghy Era.

by Orlando Woolridge on May 6, 2008 3:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This topic has it's own post

Yes, it’s sad that we still don’t know the story with Skiles. A coach cannot be paid to coach two different teams, but I don’t see why a team cannot pay a coach as part of a buyout and then fire the coach. Coaching salaries aren’t privy to the CBA. They’re independent of it.

What it looks like is Skiles was fired, but went to ownership and said the team needs a new voice and so it should just meet somewhere half way on the contractual terms. Skiles could have just stayed and earned the entirety of his contract. He didn’t. The reports indicate he was offered 7 million to depart immediately. This 7 million can be paid out whenever Reinsdorf feels like it.

by NBA Observer on May 6, 2008 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I emailed Sam on this one...

Sam Smith said that the Bulls forgave the offset portion of his deal, in exchange for him forfeiting $ 1 mil. Skiles gets the $ 6 mil from the Bulls on top of the Milwaukee contract. Sarver (because he’s a cheap ass who sells valuable draft picks for cash) likely will not forgive the offset requirement.

Observer – I’m not sure if that represents the buyout you reference.

by Gene Banks on May 7, 2008 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The changing of coaches would be different

D’Antoni can walk away from his contract any time he wants. To do so he forfeits the 8.5 mil and two years remaining. But that’s easy to walk away from when you’re dissatisfied with the club and you have 4/5 years and 16-30 million out there begging you to leave.

Skiles was fired in my opinion. The Bulls have just put lipstick on a pig for better public relations.

by NBA Observer on May 7, 2008 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

espn

goes a little further:

ESPN.com reported Friday that Chicago was the most likely landing spot for D’Antoni if he could convince his owner (Robert Sarver) and team president (Kerr) that it was time to part company. Yet it remains to be seen how much the Bulls are willing to spend on a new head man when they still owe an estimated $6 million to new Milwaukee Bucks coach Scott Skiles, according to NBA coaching sources.

by NormVanBeer on May 6, 2008 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Best news for me, yet.
Phil Webber, considered a strong offensive mind and solid player developer, almost surely would accompany D’Antoni.

So D’Antoni wants to coach the Bulls, and the guy who has overseen the developments of Shawn Marion, Amare Stoudamire, Joe Johnson, and Leandro Barbosa will likely join him. Gosh, I wish K.C. Johnson would validate all his claims.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 6, 2008 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i really want a defensive assistant minded coach

Weve been over that this team can be a good defensive team, thats what alot of them were drafted for. I would like at least one of the 3 assistants to be defensive minded (ideally i would want two of them to be defensive minded, to even it out). The offense for this team and the players have to develop, but the defense has to be maintained (not this years defensive but the potential defense this team can play, you know when they are the 2nd best team at forcing turnovers) and having a few coaches who know these things would be nice.

Sort of OT but i hope this coaching thing continues at least up until the lottery, with us getting litlte tidbitts every day. Offseasons can be boring, but not as boring as when your team is not in the playoffs as the playoffs are going on. Its like limbo… after the lottery everyone will focus on who to get, and after the draft there will be thoughts on trades and playing styles and lineups, and after that will be the predictions and preseason, and then….”Witness the Running of the Bulls”?

im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on May 6, 2008 2:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, since Chicago is a big market

team that makes lots of money, the Bulls could get D’Antoni as head coach, with Phil Webber in his luggage as an assistant, and then hire Avery as their defensive minded assistant :-)

The Game chose him !

by Diabolo on May 6, 2008 5:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Johnny Bach?

The Bulls still pay him if I recall correctly. His capacity is probably limited to just an advisory role and I’m not really sure he’s interested in the NBA travel schedule.

by NBA Observer on May 6, 2008 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

Didn’t know that Weber predated D’Antoni’s arrival in Phoenix. His NBA.com profile says Weber also developed Baron Davis and Jalen Rose.

http://www.nba.com/coachfile/phil_weber/index.html

by NBA Observer on May 6, 2008 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

looks like it's close
Sources in both organizations openly expect D’Antoni to wind up in Chicago now - with one Phoenix source going so far as to describe a deal as “imminent” - but it’s believed that financial complications account for the one obstacle that could derail his move from the desert to the Windy City.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3383366

by NormVanBeer on May 6, 2008 8:05 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Paxson should just flow with the tide

D’Antoni tells Kerr he wants to speak to other teams. Kerr is reluctant at first. Thinks about it. Then yesterday the Suns press release confirms that D’Antoni wants to talk to other teams. Jack McCallum is probably sourcing his articles to D’Antoni himself.

Now Stein is picking up from his sources that D’Antoni asked to speak to other teams because he wanted to speak with Chicago.

Make it a deal happen Paxson. Reinsdorf will resist, but only at first.

by NBA Observer on May 6, 2008 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's rather nebulous, isn't it?

Unless it’s a joke that I don’t get.

by hscs on May 6, 2008 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's writing satire of himself now.

We’ve entered Fun Times!

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 6, 2008 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No you

The post is quite clear.

by NBA Observer on May 6, 2008 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh

I think Reinsdorf will resist because he has expressed an interest in a specific style of basketball. He’s a businessman first. He likes people that stick to contracts. But on basketball he has repeatedly stated over the years that he likes basketball that stresses defense, moves the basketball, and incorporates all the parts of the the team. This preference isn’t exactly in line with D’Antoni’s approach to the NBA game. The two philosophies will clash and this is why I think there will be resistance to hiring D’Antoni, but only at first.

Paxson will have to make the case to Reinsdorf that the approach to finding a coach that matches the Bulls roster is best conducted through D’Antoni. The defense will have to be addressed in the hiring of assistants. Ron Adams is still with the club, but he’s a big man coach. Pete Myers is still with the club as well, but I really don’t know what his capacity is with the team. I think he was responsible for knowing the opponents play calls and relay that info to the 5 man unit on the floor.

Matt usually says Reinsdorf should make no public comments. It’s not like what he’s saying now is any different than what he’s been saying since he bought the team.

by NBA Observer on May 6, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ron Adams = big man coach?

I thought it was Mike Brown?

by NormVanBeer on May 6, 2008 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Adams was working with the bigs

before Mike Brown arrived. Once Brown arrived he started working with Gray, Gooden, Noah, Thomas and Simmons.

Adams was also a defensive coach. He’s now an organization guy. He was on the Cartwright staff. Then he was held over to be on the Skiles staff.

by NBA Observer on May 6, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

uhhh, thanks

i already knew some of the same things…it’s just that when you said he was the big man coach, I thought you meant currently. I just misunderstood what you originally said.

by NormVanBeer on May 6, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Adams was hired by Paxson

the summer Paxson took over – he wasn’t a Cartwright hire. And I believe Pete Myers worked withthe bigs, and Adams was the offensive coach. He’s the one who was working with Noah to improve his shooting.

by KT on May 6, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are correct

That Paxson hired Adams. He just hired Adams to fill the final seat next to Cartwright on his staff.

by NBA Observer on May 6, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Prior to Mike Brown’s arrival, the Bulls big man coach was…

Scott Skiles.

The stories that came out around the time of Brown’s hiring were that Skiles never wanted a specifically designated big man’s coach because he felt he could do it the way he wanted better by himself.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on May 6, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

20 years of them

Probably a poor set of data to draw from.

by NBA Observer on May 6, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

20 years of hard data

but Reinsdorf folds for D’Antoni? Hot air.

by hscs on May 6, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

heh

Seems unlikely, but Reinsdorf is a businessman first and an artisan of athletics second.

Any guesses on what level of excitement would ensue if the Bulls hire D’Antoni as their head coach?

There’s a nice window open right now to make this decision. The chattering classes can take over from there until May 20th when the lottery is announced. Just about anything will do that pushes the White Sox off the front pages.

by NBA Observer on May 6, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let me get a hot-air balloon...

...there’s enough windbaggery here to make Jules Verne happy.

Or something.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 6, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jules Verne? Nah...

Look no further than the White Sox locker room.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on May 6, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

More speculation

This time from across the pond.

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/05/06/magic_kingdom_losing_its_illus.html

If, as is expected, the Phoenix Suns opt to allow head coach Mike D’Antoni to bolt, it will curtail what has been one of the most enjoyable époques in recent NBA history. The former Milan chief created an all-too rare beast, a running ‘n’ gunning roster which was always fun to watch, even though their defensive flaws prevented them from charging all the way to a title.
D’Antoni has, according to espn.com, held talks with the Chicago Bulls about their coaching vacancy. If he makes the switch, it could be very good news for Great Britain. As an assistant on the USA national team, he would surely encourage Luol Deng and Ben Gordon to represent their country (assuming one or both re-sign with the Bulls). And with sources telling me that Gordon is “60% likely” to turn out for GB in August’s European Championships, a subtle nudge from his new boss may increase those odds still further.

by NBA Observer on May 6, 2008 10:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nice find

Am I just catering to the ‘soft and emotionally fragile’ mentality of the Bulls roster when I say I really want Deng and Gordon to be happy? :-)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 6, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Happy, what's wrong with that?

Players looking for a contract with “60%” chances of playing GB in the August championships?

Diaw played for France. Must have been D’Antoni’s idea.

Did Sean Marks play for New Zealand? Whoops, he retired from international bball and took the oath. He’s an American now. Get him over to Team USA before Arenas quits.

by NBA Observer on May 6, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmm, I understood about none of that

I was just pointing out that despite them both not earning the coveted label of ‘an NBAO man’s man’, it’d be nice for Gordon and Deng to have a coach that supported them, in whatever way.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 6, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Phoenix radio reporting that the Knicks are now in a better position to

sign D’Antoni because the Bulls are unwilling to meet his financial demands.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on May 6, 2008 11:22 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

......Does he know who's on that roster?

Zach Randolph and Eddy Curry=disaster for any team who chooses to run n’ gun. I would not imagine D’Antoni is that intrigued by money that he would pass up a better chance to win for a bigger paycheck.

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 6, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

People were taking that report for face value

If that’s what D’Antoni’s doing, more power to him.

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 6, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

D'Antoni is a fool if he takes the money to go to NY

that roster is a nightmare and a bad fit for his style. The bulls are a tweak or two away from being really effective next year.

2008 or bust.

by bullshooter on May 6, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which station?

Bright Side of the Sun has a post up about one PHX radio reporter’s “hunch”.

by NBA Observer on May 6, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to put this down to

Reinsdorf’s obligatory initial resistance….

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on May 6, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

excuse my language

but fuck the bulls! if this is true. we have a great chance and getting a great coach, and we are going to blow it to the knicks! i can’t imagine anyone wanting to coach there, but they sure can shell out the $$$. if the bulls blow it after reports say that d’antoni wanted to come coach them, no words can describe… seriously. another blown bulls opportunity.

by Jaina on May 6, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good Pax-Bad Pax

Good Pax, speaking to Mike D’Antoni: Mike, I understand that things didn’t work out between you and the Suns. We’ve been a defensive-minded franchise in the past, but we think you could bring something truly special to Chicago. Our guys are already really good defensively; they just need to play for a coach who cares and who will teach. I have personally put this roster together, and I know that they will do wonders for a coach such as you. I even let Jim Boylan have some space when he went against my edict to play our young bigs. In some ways, Mike, I’m asking you to save my tenure as GM. You’ll have all the support in the world.

Bad Pax: I built this roster, and they are a defense-first roster. You’ve done ok, but with all due respect, you’ve only coached half the floor. If you take over this team, it could be your shot at glory, but make no mistake about it: we’re a defense-first team, and we’re not about to change that for you because you’ve had a few good years. This is your final chance. Take it or leave it.

Be Good, Pax!

"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris

by bullhockey on May 6, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

link please?

unless you’re listening to Phoenix radio yourself, in which case then let me know what they think about Max Scherzer.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 6, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here is a link...

from Jackson:

“General manager John Paxson has declined to comment, but ESPN.com is reporting, citing NBA front-office sources, that the Bulls and Phoenix Suns coach Mike D’Antoni are close to agreeing on a deal. But a Phoenix radio station reports that D’Antoni is closer to a deal with the New York Knicks because money is getting in the way of a Bulls’ deal.”

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/basketball/bulls/933889,bull050608.article

I have been cruising Phoenix radio all day. They don’t really provide much more detail than that.

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by 1958ChiTown on May 6, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks.

Weird that nobody else has picked that up. Depressing if true.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 6, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to believe it's a negotiating tactic.

Either that, or D’Antoni has a huge ego and wants to show how he can change even that group around. Which wouldn’t be surprising; he is a head coach of an NBA team getting ousted because he wants to run things his way…............

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 6, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or it could be

the D’Antoni wants to be at least paid more than what he’s giving up by leaving Phoenix (which isn’t ego, but smart).

So if you combine that money (over $4m reportedly) with the Skiles pension....it's substantial.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 6, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

God, though...

wouldn’t you just stay in Phoenix or get fired if the Bulls won’t meet your demands, though? I’d rather force Phoenix’s hand than go to the Knicks.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 6, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"If I were him..."

and yes, I used “though” twice in the same sentence.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 6, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dunno

it’s possible that if fired he can’t coach anywhere until his contract runs out. (or is that possible? I don’t know)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 6, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure, it's possible if it's in the contract.

Probably not likely. It would also take a TON of leverage away from D’Antoni, which it seems he’s had.

Who knows? until it’s over, I guess no one.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 6, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's something so appropriately "Evil Empire"

about the Knicks, though. Even good people like Donnie Walsh could conceiveably go there for a big payday only, and not to actually perform well, since the biggest impediment to performing well is the culture put in place by the actual owners.

I guess what I’m saying is that if D’Antoni was really fed up with everything and wanted a big payday and a big payday only, New York City would be the place.

"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris

by bullhockey on May 6, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably his agent talking up the bid price

I guess he could accept whatever hardship there will be with a 50 win team in the West next season, but doing that would get him his 4.25 mil and another season. If they do well he gets an extension that’s richer than ever. If he fails, he’s in the same boat he is now only with different head coaching vacancies.

Since he requested to speak with teams, was granted this permission, I think he’s already got one foot out the door and just needs that 4 year deal and 16-18 mil to get that other foot out of Phoenix.

by NBA Observer on May 6, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

670 the Score talking about D'Antoni...

Points…
- Talking about why they should hire him and the need to get players on the roster to fit his system.
- Have to do something, not working, make a change.
- come up with a new style of play.
- D’Antoni v. Johnson…Johnson more like Skiles…
- basically, change the style…

Step 1 - Hire a coach. Step 2 - ... Step 3 - Win.

by Lt.Dan on May 6, 2008 11:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I assume this is Brian Hanley talking?

did he say they need to get other players to fit his system? or the current players? Indications from our recluse GM is that it’s the latter.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 6, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I believe it was Hanley...

Said get players to fit D’Antoni’s style of play…and not “a non-shooting center like before”...

Really emphasized the thought of changing things up…style-wise…

Step 1 - Hire a coach. Step 2 - ... Step 3 - Win.

by Lt.Dan on May 6, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did Hanley say where these magical plyers were going to come

from? Or who they were?

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by 1958ChiTown on May 6, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ironically

that non-shooting center was supposedly coveted by D’Antoni in the draft.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 6, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he...

may have been referring to The Corpse…

Step 1 - Hire a coach. Step 2 - ... Step 3 - Win.

by Lt.Dan on May 6, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Paxson's tight-lippededness(?) sort of makes me giggle.

I understand it to an extent. I wouldn’t want to talk to media jackasses either, even if it was my job. It’s still funny.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 6, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kind of funny, yeah

It was funnier with Jerry “Crumbs” Krause :)

Probably because of the media’s bias against short, not-that-handsome, overweight people.

Damn. And here I am perpetuating that by calling him “Crumbs”. I take back the part about “Crumbs.” But I don’t take the rest of it back.

"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris

by bullhockey on May 6, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's why it's even weirder with Paxson

he was hired in part because he was the antithesis of Krause in terms of perception. (and apparently performance! hahahaha)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 6, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Yeah, he’ll always have his playing days, which should instantly set him apart from Crumbs Jerry Krause. But the public has kind of a short memory, as demonstrated by the fact that one of the recent diaries / fan posts states pretty clearly that Avery Johnson never won a championship (he was the PG when the Spurs won in ‘98-’99).

Similarly, if things don’t go well with Pax, he’ll be remembered as a bumbling GM. Not saying it would be fair…

"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris

by bullhockey on May 6, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed.

I don’t think it’s really hampering his job performance, but it’s something worth poking fun at.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 6, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, I'm getting confused with the Skiles salary situation.
Yet it remains to be seen how much the Bulls are willing to spend on a new head man when they still owe an estimated $6 million to new Milwaukee Bucks coach Scott Skiles, according to NBA coaching sources.

It has been suggested in coaching circles that D’Antoni could be too expensive for Chicago, especially if the Bulls are also required to provide Phoenix with some form of compensation for letting him out of his contract.

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 6, 2008 12:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

espn one that's been linked about five times already.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 6, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh.

withdrawn. It was worth it to bring back the link pictures though.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 6, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Make it 6

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 6, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It all depends upon the terms of Skiles contract

with the Bulls, I imagine.

There is no principle of law which holds that obligations under a contract are automatically suspended if one of the parties enters into a separate, similar contract. Unless the Skiles-Bulls contract explicitly states that the Bulls’ payment obligations are offset by the salary of any new head coaching job that Skiles acquires, the Bulls would be beholded to Skiles for the full amount of the contract.

That being said, I would be surprised if the Skiles-Bulls contract didn’t have that sort of offset provision.

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by 1958ChiTown on May 6, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking

maybe they don’t have an offset provision because Skiles gave some money back in the final contract payout?

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 6, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, that could be it, too.

If the Bulls and Skiles reached some sort of compromise on the amount of compensation he was owed at the time he was terminated, it is doubtful that the negotiated settlement figure would be subject to offset for new head coaching jobs.

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by 1958ChiTown on May 6, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

very interesting speculation

That would fit with all these questions about whether Skiles resigned or was fired.

“Offset provision” are the new coaching contract buzzwords. They pop up in every discussion of these fired/for hire coaches on the market.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on May 6, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

D'Antoni has a Tyrus man crush
Besides Luol Deng and Ben Gordon, D’Antoni has long been enamored with Tyrus Thomas, whom he wanted to trade up to get in the 2006 draft, a league source said.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-dantonikerr050608&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

by NormVanBeer on May 6, 2008 12:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe that will help swing the scales in the Bulls favor

Not that the current Knickerbocker roster isn’t frightening enough.

by RogersPark Kris on May 6, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that seals it

I’ve been long-enamored with Tyrus too!

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 6, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You'll like this guy!!!!!!!

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 6, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah it seems that Tyrus would finally get his time

If Mike came to Chicago.

That’s what has me really giddy

by Option27 on May 6, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

damn that article is loaded

with vitriol for seemingly all the available candidates, basically calling D’Antoni a fraud.

Unfortunately Popovich and Jackson aren’t available, eh?

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 6, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A "mirage?"

I’m looking forward to seeing the new Phoenix coach turn a team with Steve Nash, Amare Stoudemire, and a washed-up Shaq into a defensive oriented team. Since everyone says that “defense wins championships,” I’m sure they’ll win the championship next year.

by Big D on May 6, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was horrible, wasn't it?

I don’t know what’s going to happen, of course, but if D’Antoni can “leave” the Bulls with a roster of talent in four years that he’s leaving Phoenix, but have guys all 26/27 or under, I’ll be ecstatic.

A championship in the next three years would be nice, but it ain’t happening. All I really want is to make the players here the best they can absolutely be. They’ll all be hitting their prime in 3-4 years, and if a change is needed then, so be it.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 6, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want D'Antoni

but not for the long haul. I just don’t see how his system really lasts, but it’s clear to me it’s effective at developing players and that’s one thing the Bulls need most.

If there was a triangle coach out there I’d want him. I guess Brian Shaw might be it.

A shame all the good coaches are still on work schedules.

by NBA Observer on May 6, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's clear that he plays an offense

that players like to play, other than that, I don’t know. The guy seems to have his own baggage, but he’s the best fit right now for the bulls.

2008 or bust.

by bullshooter on May 6, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haven't seen Sports2 post in a while.

He’s usually up on all the contract ramifications. I wonder if part of Paxson’s and now Walsh’s interest in the uber player-friendly D’Antoni might be partly a reflection of all the major players coming on the market next year?

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on May 6, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm busy moving :|

But the Bulls would need to wait two years, not one year to have any cap room. For that matter, the major players are gonna be available in two years and not next year.

More immediately I think this would signal the Bulls are going to keep Deng and Gordon. It’d be pretty silly to get a marquee coach (whether he is or not, he’s being treated that way it seems) and then not bring back your best players.

by Sports2 on May 8, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the first thing I’d do after a move

is set up my computer and check BlogaBull. Nice to see ya.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on May 9, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't recall reading any of Wojnarowski

before, but what’s his deal? This reads like anti-Sports-Guy-article propaganda. So it’s D’Antoni’s fault Kerr had to include two draft picks w/ the Kurt Thomas contract dump because he extended Diaw and signed Marcus Banks? In a GM role that he never wanted, that was open because the owner alienated the previous year’s exec of the year. (Sarver wouldn’t extend Kid Colangelo, “not in my companies. From the tellers on up.”) I’ll buy it’s D’A’s fault he benched his MLE signing, but not that Sarver (and Kerr, a part-owner/advisor, Sarver’s college classmate) is free of culpability. Sarver had wanted Kerr as GM then, but he was reluctant: His TV gig and his kids.

One thing I will believe: Kerr has enough class to give Paxson the truth about D’Antoni, when called upon.

Joakim Noah for player/coach!

by marionette on May 6, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In case it hasn't been posted here yet

The link to the Sports Guy article.

Joakim Noah for player/coach!

by marionette on May 6, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why the fuck did they even fire Skiles . . .

If they’re unwilling to pay good money for a replacement? Were they just planning on hiring some random assistant who would work cheap? If so, they might as well have just kept Skiles. This is the most profitable franchise in the league, so if they fuck this up simply because of money, then this is nothing but a bush-league franchise that deserves to lose.

And it’s really quite simple why D’Antoni would choose the Knicks over the Bulls- money, absolutely no pressure to win for a few years, and after Isiah, D’Antoni will be treated as a savior by the New York media. Oh yes, did I mention money? D’Antoni’s spent the last few years working for a owner that routinely sells his draft picks off to save money (and then complains that the team has no depth and that D’Antoni doesn’t play enough people off the bench), so I wouldn’t blame him for wanting to go to a team that money is no object for.

by Big D on May 6, 2008 12:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So wait! D'Antoni is coaching on Team USA?

How will that affect what happens this summer w/ teaching all the nitwits on the Bulls roster? Just looking for some random speculation….

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 6, 2008 12:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

oh yeah...

that is a good point. Maybe his first practice he’ll emphasize how much worse they all are compared to the TeamUSA squad.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 6, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it won't be any worse than Skiles popping his head in the Berto doors to say

“Get better!”

Hopefully a new assistant takes the summer workout reigns from K.C. and Hanley. ‘Luol showed up at 6:36 AM!!! With his own towels!!! Tyrus Thomas doesn’t bring his own towels!!!’

by hscs on May 6, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I figure. Assts. can do it.

The difference, though, is that a lot of guys knew the offense with Skiles and really did just need to “get better” on their individual skills. Not that Skiles handled it the right way, but it isn’t as hands-on as going from a defensively-minded team to an offensively-minded one. With a different offense, too. There’s a LOT more that needs to be learned.

D’Antoni won’t opt out of coaching Team USA, of course, but it’s different circumstances from what he was planning on with his veteran team in Phoenix. And if Luol and Gordon take too long to re-sign (let alone not re-signing), we’re definitely looking at an unfun start to next season.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 6, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't take any more unfun

That was this past season. If that’s next season too then I may have to start liking Hockey.

by NBA Observer on May 6, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Blackhawks look promising

Watching the Hawks at the UC is still a damn good night on the town. Since I’ve never really liked or followed Hockey I can’t go there. The best I can do is play NHL ‘94 religiously.

by NBA Observer on May 6, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet Moses.

NHL 94 was the most addictive sports video game of all time.

Open keg of beer, take the Blackhawks, control Jeremy Roenick, master the patented juke move, score thirty goals in one minute of play.

Final Score: Blackhawks 54 Senators 35 Keg Empty

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by 1958ChiTown on May 6, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

have to agree

that may have been the apex of the sports video game genre.

2008 or bust.

by bullshooter on May 6, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gosh. I didn't say it wouldn't improve.

Obviously, I don’t know how it will come out, but it certainly looks like it might start off rough. Seeing as the Bulls usually do anyway.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 6, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vescey jumps in

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8109838/D‘Antoni’s-going-to-have-plenty-of-options

If you and your wife are having irreconcilable differences and she gives her consent (which you originally requested) to talk to other women, you don’t seriously think the relationship has a chance to survive merely because you couldn’t get any play elsewhere?

by NBA Observer on May 6, 2008 1:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

my bad

they were just farming a NYPost article. change my lame joke appropriately.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 6, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just thought I would ask my favorite man on ESPN.com what he thought

Chris (LA): John, how do you think D’Antoni would fit in Chicago? They’ve preached defense for years and all of a sudden they just shift to offense?

John Hollinger: (3:39 PM ET ) I think he might be a great fit. Chicago has been more up-tempo than people realize and I think he'd get a lot more out of the young bigs than Skiles/Boylan did.
John Hollinger: (3:39 PM ET ) Plus, he has a great track record with white 6-3 point guards. Had to get that in there before somebody else did ...

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=20501

by Option27 on May 6, 2008 2:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You annoyed with this foul formatting

Cuz i know i am, What comes after Chicago has been mo…..

im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on May 6, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha

Nah, I really love this new format

It’s just new, thats all

by Option27 on May 6, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

use the

little scroll bar under the comment and you’ll see all the answers.

Blogabull... So Fresh and so Clean Clean!

by Goostafer on May 6, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

its not there for me

.... no scroll bar….any other ideas?

im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on May 6, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What browser you using?

Also, you could email the tech overlords

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 6, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dont laught but..

I.E.7

im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on May 6, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could it have something to do with a Java applett.

My computer has problems with java applications…some play and others dont, and i cant upgrade it due to some error that im too lazy to figure out. Its really minor but at times is annoying.

im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on May 6, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WSCR just reported (first hand or not)

that the Knicks have offered D’Antoni 5/$30m

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 6, 2008 4:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No surprise

It was only a matter of time. I’m surprised they didn’t offer more

And you know it for a fact that everybody's eating out of your hands

by chibullsareback on May 6, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i smell

the patented Paxson whiff coming on.

by NormVanBeer on May 6, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just like I said:
A source in Chicago said that late last week Paxson was torn. On the one hand, he wanted to keep his core of young players together and felt a change in coaching philosophy might turn the team around. On the other hand, the thought of bringing in a coach who wouldn’t emphasize defense and discipline bothered Paxson.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=Bulls-080506

by NormVanBeer on May 6, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Paxson does whiff

on D’Antoni, it’s gonna be real hard to regain any off season momentum.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on May 6, 2008 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The D'Antoni possibilities

Maybe you weren’t excited.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on May 6, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think (or hope) Alec was referring to his own heart rate and interest in the team.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 6, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I'm alone

in my enthusiasm for D’Antoni coaching the Bulls.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on May 6, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah, I'm with you. Not that it means jack shit, but hey!

I will be supremely letdown if Pax doesn’t make this happen.

by Illini15 on May 6, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you aren't alone

I go to school in Phoenix and rooted against the Suns on the whim that they might fire D’Antoni. I dealt with so much crap the last two weeks over this. I didn’t care. I e-mailed long e-mails to a certain Chicago sports reporter who then started a small correspondence with me about it, and he told me not to get my hopes up. I’ve had Mike D’Antoni on the brain way too much the past couple of weeks. I’ve just come to accept it because I kinda saw it coming. And now I’m gonna have to deal with crap from friends that are Suns fans who knew why I was rooting for the Spurs. So you are not alone.

And you know it for a fact that everybody's eating out of your hands

by chibullsareback on May 6, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW

I just turned on KTAR, and Calvisi reported the same thing

And you know it for a fact that everybody's eating out of your hands

by chibullsareback on May 6, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who was the reporter, Anna Davlantes?

Your hush-hush tone make it seem like it was some burning hot issue, Jeez…

"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris

by bullhockey on May 6, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe Sid Hudgens?

http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0003042/

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on May 6, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

forget it

If you had a source who gave you enough info to infer something Friday morning that no one was even thinking about until four days later would you give it up either? Maybe I’ll get it again, maybe I won’t. I’m sure as hell no journalist, but I know that if you wanna keep getting stuff you don’t go blabbing. You think I’m that smart to call that D’Antoni goes to the KNICKS? I wish I could say as much

And you know it for a fact that everybody's eating out of your hands

by chibullsareback on May 6, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just noticed

your sig is from an Arcitc Monkeys song (Still Take You Home).

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

by thecoolest on May 6, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea they are awesome

I was listening to that song when I was updating my profile this afternoon

And you know it for a fact that everybody's eating out of your hands

by chibullsareback on May 7, 2008 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

meh

at the same time the Knicks press spokespeople won’t confirm that Walsh is even traveling to Phoenix or Houston.

by NBA Observer on May 6, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you believe me now NBA observer?

You doubted me the other day when I said that the Knicks were gonna outbid the Bulls for D’Antoni. I know nothing is final but this is depressing.

And you know it for a fact that everybody's eating out of your hands

by chibullsareback on May 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't jump off the cliff just yet

that SCR report could be a D’Antoni leak to drive his price up

or a Knicks leak to drive the Bulls price up

by Orlando Woolridge on May 6, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey

I have to take solace in something. Who doesn’t like being right?

And you know it for a fact that everybody's eating out of your hands

by chibullsareback on May 6, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will vomit if we whiff on D'Antoni because we won't pay him.

Once Pax has his guy, then he better fucking pay him. And it better be D’Antoni.

by Illini15 on May 6, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

here you go:
Donnie Walsh met with Avery Johnson for several hours today in Houston, one day after the Knicks president interviewed Suns head coach Mike D’Antoni.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/knicks/2008/05/walsh-meets-with-avery-in-hous.html

by NormVanBeer on May 6, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up