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The signals suggesting that Mike D'Antoni and the Phoenix Suns will soon part company are only getting stronger.

The loudest hint yet that a divorce is forthcoming came Sunday night when KTAR Radio (620 AM) in Phoenix reported that D'Antoni has suddenly been granted permission to speak with other teams, including Chicago and New York, about their coaching openings.

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If D'Antoni's upset about the "rules" proposed by Kerr and Sarver...

...w/ one of them presumably being more practice time devoted to defense, how is he going to deal w/ an organizational mentality built around defense and nit-picking rules and constraints? If he came, though, I think it would force the organization to loosen up a little. Of course, they’ll both (team and D’Antoni) will be willingly choosing the other side, so hopefully they recognize this (surely), and it will be a happy complement of philosophies and not an ugly contrast of styles that ends poorly.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 5, 2008 8:56 AM CDT   0 recs

headbands aside

it looked more and more like the organization was ‘hands-off’ to a fault.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 5, 2008 9:13 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's my impression, too.

I kept waiting for Paxson to assert himself in any way, but particularly about Boylan’s lineups and rotations. It’s impossible for me to believe Paxson didn’t want to see more Tyrus pt than Boylan gave us.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on May 5, 2008 9:25 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, if Boylan's reign of incompetence is any indication of the future

Paxson’s not likely to interfere in the way D’Antoni runs practices or offensive sets.

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on May 5, 2008 10:31 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It sounds like Paxson has some of the magic left
Carlisle dropped out of contention even before he stood poised to land the Mavericks’ job.

K.C.’s every interview is official piece.

by hscs on May 5, 2008 9:00 AM CDT   0 recs

I really hope he becomes our new coach.

His up tempo run and gun style would be a great fit with the Bulls young roster.

by MAN in the BOX on May 5, 2008 9:09 AM CDT   0 recs

What is more likely and easy :

1) Get a D’Antoni and find a great team of assistants for the defensive part (although D’Antoni may very well be adept at adapting to a more defensive minded roster like they have in Chicago, he may just have played to the strength of his players in Phoenix)

2) Get another “general” (even a little one), and find some great experienced offense-minded assistants with awesome player management skills.

The Game chose him !

by Diabolo on May 5, 2008 9:11 AM CDT   0 recs

I have two worries.

First, did Paxson have the foresight to clear space on his calendar for D’Antoni in the event he became available, or is D’Antoni stuck behind Thibodeau , waiting for the next five-day break in the Celtics schedule?

Second, even if Paxson makes a date with D’Antoni, will Paxson go into it thinking that the Bulls job is so sweet that he expects D’Antoni to sell himself to the Bulls rather than the other way around?

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on May 5, 2008 9:15 AM CDT   0 recs

Seriously?

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 5, 2008 9:35 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

On your first point.

Seriously ? What other things does Paxson have on his agenda right now that is more important than finding the best coach for his team ? What could possibly prevent him from meeting D’Antoni today or tomorrow (except D’Antoni’s own agenda) ?

The Game chose him !

by Diabolo on May 5, 2008 10:26 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

kidding on both points...

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on May 5, 2008 11:04 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

fresh start

This would be such a refreshing feeling if D’Antoni coached the bulls. I think it would clean last year’s toxic fumes from the air. The hard defense approach always made me feel that they were trying to hide our lack of offensive coaching (maybe offensive talent, but lets hope not).

by serbstream on May 5, 2008 10:14 AM CDT   0 recs

Correct
The hard defense approach always made me feel that they were trying to hide our lack of offensive coaching (maybe offensive talent, but lets hope not).

We should give our opponents more credit. They did scheme against our offense which really wasn’t much to speak about anyway. Our defense is what kept us in games, and competitive in the division. The defense did drop off, but to be down 15 points in the first half in home games is a sign that the problems were much more than defensive lapses.

A strong offense would be a great asset for the Bulls entering next season. We certainly need something that will force opponents to do more than make Ben Gordon make things happen with the ball in his hands.

by NBA Observer on May 5, 2008 11:24 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Happy players that for most of them are naturally very adept on defense...

...and that will bring defensive effort (solving the deterioration problem of this year).

In other words, if they like the coach a lot and respect him, they will care.

The Game chose him !

by Diabolo on May 5, 2008 10:29 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

While D'Antoni probably wouldn't get this team back to the top of the defensive rankings

he should be able to get them near the top in Def Eff while still stressing offense in practices. The Bulls finished 14th in Defensive Efficiency this year and more consistent effort should come simply from having a coach the players like. The Suns consistently finished in the middle of the pack in defense while playing much worse defensive players than the Bulls currently have. D’Antoni may not stress D in practice, but he was doing something right on that end the last few years. The more difficult job for whoever the new coach is will be improving that 26th ranked offense.

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on May 5, 2008 10:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

exactly.

suns were an average defensive team, while playing amare and nash extensively. we naturally have a better defensive team, but a horrible offense, so we need someone to boost our 30th in FG% offense.

by Jaina on May 5, 2008 11:06 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Does D'Antoni have any meaningful

experience developing young players?

Also, how has he handled his bench historically?

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by 1958ChiTown on May 5, 2008 11:22 AM CDT   0 recs

Diaw, Barbosa, and Amare were all young players that were developing

I think those guys have turned out OK. These players just never had development on defense. Our roster already has that development. It was impossible to not to develop it. If you didn’t, Skiles and Boylan wouldn’t play you.

So you might say were already developed defensively, we just need something on offense that will help develop our guys.

by NBA Observer on May 5, 2008 11:28 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Diaw and Barbossa

both took steps back. I wouldn’t say D’Antoni is a great developer of talent.

2008 or bust.

by bullshooter on May 5, 2008 12:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think this was answered in the last thread

about d’antoni…something around the jist of he developed Amare, Barbosa, and gave nash the push towards his mvps. In terms of bench, it was said that pheonix only usually uses about 8 guys in a game. I think he can develop tyrus and teach him how to “run” and “jump higher” and maybe give tyrus the much needed boost to get going. Same with our guards, i think he can give them direction on when to pass when to shoot, and the best ways to attack the rim. I think its guys like aaron gray and gooden who might really suffer, and i fear what hughes might be thinking playing for the d’antoni style of play. I mean, i hope he doesnt think he can run and gun as a one man army…i dont know if i can watch that.

im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on May 5, 2008 11:31 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Gooden should be able to keep up with such a pace.

In fact, Gooden should get plenty of PT if D’Antoni would be willing to go with a three man rotation up front. Gray should be hoping that Paxson trades or releases him if D’Antoni is brought on.

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on May 5, 2008 11:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Go go D'Antoni go!

Or go go Gadget D’Antoni!

Or see D’Antoni. See D’Antoni run.

I’m giddy. Its all well and good to agonize over what ifs, but its a miracle that the Bulls may have a shot at a coach like D’Antoni. A freakin’ miracle.

Yes we can. Yes we can hire D'Antoni. Yes we can.
Scoing 109 points/game is change we can believe in.

by preverbal on May 5, 2008 11:34 AM CDT   0 recs

giddy

sums up the way i feel perfectly.

i think if Pax gets this done it would be the best day from a Bulls standpoint for me since Jordan faced “Byron” Russell out of his jock that night in the SLC.

by Orlando Woolridge on May 5, 2008 11:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

OTOH...

...w/ “naturally defensive” guys, getting D’Antoni would be the opposite of getting a coach to fit the players, as, I think, Sam Smith said Paxson said he was going to do. A number of “smart people” think the Bulls would be suited to an offense like D’Antoni’s, but who really knows?

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 5, 2008 11:41 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

me too

As a season ticket holder, I just want to watch an interesting team. Last season, it was really f’in hard to go to games. Felt like a chore.

Obviously, I really want the Bulls to be good. However, if they’re going to suck, they might as well be entertaining while sucking. I’ll take a run and gun suck over the crap we saw last season.

by Moses Taylor on May 5, 2008 11:52 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

We have to hire D'Antoni if we can

If D’Antoni is available, the Bulls have to do everything in their power to get him. There isn’t a coach in the world who would be better for what the Bulls need right now. Guys were beaten down by Skiles and need to get their confidence back and start having fun playing basketball again.

And stop it with the defensive concerns. Defense is mostly effort, and guys will play harder for D’Antoni, because they’ll get more into the flow offensively, and the energy will carry over to the defense. We obviously have the personnel to play defense. Guys just weren’t putting in the effort and focus, because they hated the coach and weren’t having fun playing anymore.

As bad as last season was, we shouldn’t be in that bad of shape. Hiring D’Antoni would be the first step to getting things back on track followed by evaluating the roster and seeing who will fit into his system and seeing what value guys have on the trade market. Hopefully a change or 2 as well as using the #9 pick wisely (either in a trade package or for a player who can help) can get us back in the mix in the East.

by rb22 on May 5, 2008 11:55 AM CDT   0 recs

Pax needs to get his mojo back

Hurry up and sign Mr. D before your posturing winds up forcing the Bulls to settle for some leftover. Toronto would love to have him and he is in the driver’s seat. The PR value alone of this move is invaluable. Basketball would be rejuvinated in Chicago, so open up the Reinsdorf’s vault so the Bulls can open up the vault of the crypt they spent this season in.

The fans are not impressed that you are going to interview everyone who is available and has a pulse to show what a wise man you are rather than act mpulsively. This isn’t Tibet and you are not the Dali Llama, Pax. Get out that checkbook, and make the call now. You can revitalize your reputaton and the franchise if you do. If you want to permenantly remove the stain of Boylan forever, do it now before you blow it again.

If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard

by Tyrusmancrush on May 5, 2008 12:27 PM CDT   0 recs

Seems like the last time Pax tried to make a big splash

we all got to spend the next couple of years watching Ben Wallace not jump.

My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!

by wjb1492 on May 5, 2008 1:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think several people saw that coming

But were blinded by the “Pax does no wrong” credo and refused to admit it was a stupid move. It was a bad signing, every team makes them, we must move forward from it. At least we’re still not tied up with contracts to Charlie Bell, Bobby Simmons, and Dan Gadzuric.

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 5, 2008 1:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I've moved forward from that

But suggestions that Pax “hurry up” and do something, or that PR alone makes it worthwhile bring that signing back to mind. I don’t want Pax sitting on his thumbs out of fear of screwing up any more than anyone else. But I do think this is a significant decision – I don’t think I’d say D’Antoni is so much of a genious that he should be offered the job immediately.

But I suppose at least a coaching mistake is a little easier to get out from under than a bad long-term player’s contract.

My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!

by wjb1492 on May 5, 2008 2:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Time to stop playing around

You hit the nail on the head. Time to stop preening. as Tyrusmancrush said, crack the whip. Go get your man Pax. Nail it down early and get this franchise moving again.

by SlamDunk on May 5, 2008 3:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That was fast

Didn’t Pax just go on vacation or was that just last week?

by NBA Observer on May 5, 2008 1:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That was a joke

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on May 5, 2008 1:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i was

extremely pleased to read this considering it’s not like he flew out to see avery right away. particularly because if they flew out last night, it was pretty much before the news broke that d’antoni was even allowed to speak to other teams.

by Jaina on May 5, 2008 1:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sorry, it was the vacation portion that was a joke

I was shocked to see that Paxson flew to Phoenix alread

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on May 5, 2008 1:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

If D'Antoni gets hired

BG and Deng have to be the happiest of the bunch. Both are perfect for this offense, and I think D’Antoni can get both of them to be more aggressive, getting more trips to the foul line, attacking the rims, trying to be better finishers instead of settling for outside jumpers.

He has a track record of developing talent. Amare, Marion, Diaw, and Barbosa all exceeded expectations under him. Nash had his best seasons ever under him, and let’s not forget how a career scrub like Raja Bell became a starter and one of the best shooters in the league under D’Antoni. He even managed to integrate Shaq somewhat well after the trade, which must have been ridiculously difficult to accomplish on the fly in the midst of a playoff race.

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 5, 2008 12:47 PM CDT   0 recs

Can't or won't?

Shawn Marion wasn’t a great 3 point shooter. His percentages went down every season since D’Antoni was a head coach, and that didn’t stop them from being a great outside shooting team. And, if D’Antoni does get hired, I wouldn’t be shocked to see Deng start launching 2 a game at the behest of his new coach.

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 5, 2008 1:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Wasn't it the Bulls coaches

that encouraged Deng to ignore the 3pt shot and work on developing his shot from 12-18 feet? Deng talked about improving his FG% after his second season and the best way the staff told him to get there was to avoid working on long range perimeter shooting and just focus on the midrange game where Deng was already a solid shooter.

by NBA Observer on May 5, 2008 1:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Basically

But, at the beginning of last season, he stated he wanted to start developing more of a 3 point shot, since he had his midrange jumper down pat. He was shooting them more often in the early parts of the preseason, but went away from it after injuries and the season became a colossal waste of time. He doesn’t need to shoot 4-5 threes a game, although I wouldn’t mind seeing Hinrich and Gordon attempting that many. If he shoots 1-2 a game, I’m convinced he could shoot as well as Marion in Phoenix (30-33%).

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 5, 2008 1:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Deng does certain things very well.

He runs around relentlessly and finds little screen opportunities, and when he finds them he’s got good hands to catch and shoot a very effective mid-range jump shot. A coach with a good offensive imagination should be able to figure out how to put Deng’s strong points in play.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on May 5, 2008 1:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Would hiring D'Antoni help with contract negotiations?

Not that there is any information to support the notion, but maybe BG and Deng weren’t exactly jazzed up about 5 years of guaranteed money playing for Scott Skiles.

by NBA Observer on May 5, 2008 1:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think that had to do more with the cashflow

They would have showed you jazz hands had Paxson offered 65 million.

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 5, 2008 1:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You're kinda right about Deng

As a small forward who’s not really a 3 point shooter or a ball handler/playmaker, he isn’t necessarily a great fit, but it depends who is in the game with him. If he and Nocioni are at the forwards together it works, because Noce can space the floor. If it’s a more conventional lineup with Tyrus or Gooden at the 4 though, they lack some of the spacing and outside shooting that’s more ideal to play the way D’Antoni wants to play.

I’m not advocating starting Noce and Deng at the forwards though, because I think Tyrus has the potential to be great in this system. I guess what I’m saying is that I would be more open to dealing Deng if D’Antoni gets the job… or Maybe Deng works hard on improving his 3 point range and his ball handling/playmaking. He is only 23 and is already a pretty good shooter. Plus, I think Mike D would probably give him the green light and instill some confidence in him like he did with guys like Bell and Marion who were never known as 3 point shooters before.

by rb22 on May 5, 2008 1:11 PM CDT   0 recs

Paxson's last big splash was a belly flop of monumental proportions, but

he recovered somewhat on his last dive by dumping our biggest albatross, Ben Nopointsnofreethrowsnodesire Wallace. If he pulls this one off I think most judges would give him a perfect 10. Every player on the roster has to be salivating with the possibility of playing for a players coach who not only can teach. motivate and knows how to win, but also has a sense of humor where everyone around him can share in the laugh. Boylan tried to be clever and funny but never realized people were laughing at him, not with him.

If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard

by Tyrusmancrush on May 5, 2008 1:34 PM CDT   0 recs

Knock on wood, please

I’m absolutely ecstatic at the thought of this occurring, but it seems to good to be true. We shall see.

by Illini15 on May 5, 2008 1:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Salivating

I think all the stars are realigning, and Pax should take D’Antoni’s availability as a sign that indicates the second coming of the Bulls. My guy Noah will be happy and this could only spell good things for a stud like Tyrus. Some things happen for a reason. Out with vindictive, negative trash like Skiles and in with a breath of fresh air like D’Antoni. The only way D’Antoni doesn’t end up in Chicago is if Paxson proves to be brain dead.

by SlamDunk on May 5, 2008 2:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What's the Larry Hughes angle in this?

Chances are he can’t get traded and won’t be banished to the inactive list. His shooting as has been terrible and if D’Antoni comes in we assume he’ll only get more looks right? Is there a positive in this? He lead the league in steals a few years ago. Perhaps a more up tempo game can let him flourish in transition and points off turnovers?

by The90sBullsRevival on May 5, 2008 1:47 PM CDT   0 recs

Maybe an even greater pace would help or

just hope that D’Antoni goes with a short bench and severely limits Hughes’s minutes.

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on May 5, 2008 1:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

the Bulls were #2 in opponent turnovers in 2006-07

D’Antoni’s teams never sniffed that, and Hughes wasn’t around.

by hscs on May 5, 2008 1:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

hopefully D'Antoni can encourage him to get to the FT line more

instead of jacking up those God-awful mid-range jumpers

by Illini15 on May 5, 2008 1:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

give up the dream

Larry Hughes is Larry Hughes. He should be the 4th guard.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 5, 2008 1:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah, i know

i was trying to be optimistic for once. bah.

by Illini15 on May 5, 2008 2:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hughes is likely to take as many fewer shots

as he is fewer dollars on his contract.

I’m with Matt, but just make him he 5th guard.

by NBA Observer on May 5, 2008 2:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Larry Would be like the Eddie House on our team

Just let him shoot whenever and make him happy

by Option27 on May 5, 2008 2:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

They would just shoot

I wasn’t being specific on the three’s

by Option27 on May 5, 2008 2:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

the only thing that could screw this up (besides money)

Is the vacant Knicks GM job. D’Antoni carried two titles in Phoenix until Kerr showed up, didn’t he?

by hscs on May 5, 2008 2:01 PM CDT   0 recs

i somehow think

the knicks’ days of dual gm/coach are over.

i think money will be the only stopper.

by Jaina on May 5, 2008 2:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What's Walsh?

Didn’t that ESPN article basically say that Walsh and Paxson have the same titles?

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 5, 2008 2:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Walsh is President of the Knicks

I haven’t seen anything mentioning that he’s even looking for a GM. Who knows if that means he’s actually taking on personnel responsibilities or going to hand those over to the eventual coach?

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on May 5, 2008 2:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I stand corrected

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on May 5, 2008 2:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

thanks

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on May 5, 2008 2:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Walsh is building an executive chain

like the one he built in Indiana. The Simons are better owners than the Dolans so I’m not aware if there was friction there prior to Walsh arriving in Indianapolis, but I can see why Walsh would want strong execs in between Dolan and the Knicks coaches/players.

by NBA Observer on May 5, 2008 2:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That

article make the case that Walsh will hire Kenny Smith as GM and Mark Jackson as Coach.

Joakim Noah for player/coach!

by marionette on May 5, 2008 3:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't necessarily look for more FTAs

from BG and Lu, Ozzie. D’Antoni’s ‘05-06 Suns (minus microfracture Amare) set record for playoff team w/ fewest trips to the line.

Joakim Noah for player/coach!

by marionette on May 5, 2008 4:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs