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The Paxspeak Playbook

I'm not sure if we're at the point where Paxson's predictability is more sad than funny. I still find it funny. I guess the real test is if his team still sucks next year.

First, some true draft-rumor craziness, from yet another blog that has more sources than me(even indirectly):

I heard a third-hand rumor (from a pretty good source) that the Bulls are considering an offer from Memphis to exchange the #1 pick for Mike Conley and the #5. Apparently John Paxson really wants Kevin Love, and is considering taking the trade. Obviously the Grizzlies — desperate for a draw in Memphis — would take Derrick Rose.

Note, Brett of The Bratwurst admits accepting such an offer would be lunacy for the Bulls. But I still chuckle at the thought of Pax almost wishing he didn't get #1 so he could take a scrapper like Kevin Love.

And then, the semi-regular Pax 'misinformation' whine:

Bulls general manager John Paxson scoffed Wednesday at the notion that anyone really knows what he will do with the No. 1 pick in next month's draft , because he doesn't know at this point.

He has said that he considers Michael Beasley (Kansas State) and Derrick Rose (Memphis) -- like everyone else -- head and shoulders above the rest.

He lost his patience Wednesday when told that Joey Dorsey of Memphis told reporters that he had "inside information,'' the the Bulls would be taking Beasley and not Rose, his former teammate.

"There is absolutely no reason anyone would have a clue, so there's no reason to respond. I'm tired of it already,'' Paxson said. "Nobody has any idea. Anyone who wants to speculate can do that. Fine, but no one knows. We have one month. Let me do my work for a month.''

If you really want to make him scoff, ask about 'timetables'.

All this said, fear not: Sam Smith still says it's Rose, and provides a not-so-helpful list of possible destinations for Hinrich. So I'm telling you, eventually we'll look back on Paxson's gradual public meltdown over the past few months and laugh. Right?

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At least with the draft there is an imposed deadline.

Here's to the most exciting offseason in a VERY long time!

by wjb1492 on May 28, 2008 11:25 PM CDT reply actions  

hahaha

Can’t be indefinite about that.

by tyger1147 on May 29, 2008 7:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

After KG, Gasol, Kobe, and D'Antoni fell through

I didn’t think it was possible for Paxson to screw up getting Rose or Beasley. Now I’m trying to see if it’s possible to hold my breath for a month.

by YaoPau on May 28, 2008 11:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Good Lord

If that Memphis trade actually happened, I don’t think I’d ever watch a Bulls game again.

by Illini15 on May 28, 2008 11:30 PM CDT reply actions  

some would

if you replaced Conley with the great Kyle Lowry

(oh, I truly crack myself up)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 28, 2008 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

The saddest part is

that I actually believe this could happen with Pax at the helm.

by Illini15 on May 28, 2008 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought the same thing for a second

but I am pretty sure that Pax does not want to take on more players, which would make his off season even harder.

by wojcmic1 on May 28, 2008 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

physicals, measurements and interviews schedule

Finally, we won’t have to read between Pax’s lines. The interviews will be Thursday afternoon.

from the South Florida Sun-Sentinel:

“Rose and Beasley were among the 15 leading prospects allowed to bypass the round-robin of scrimmages and move directly to the weekend physicals and measurements. The two will be part of a media availability session Thursday of leading draft candidates”

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on May 28, 2008 11:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Pax needs to add humor or something...

his responses are always clueless, I don’ even know, let me do my work regardless of how ever long it takes?. Why does he want to projected this image of stupidity and incompetence? Is there some hidden strategy?

I wish he would just defer answering sometimes and tell a joke for humor and distraction.

by exult463 on May 29, 2008 12:05 AM CDT reply actions  

completely agree

is this important in the grand scheme? I guess not. But it’s still a bit odd to get the feeling that the GM doesn’t like doing his job.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 29, 2008 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's times like these that I miss Skiles

and his sarcastic little jabs that he worked into his comments.

Here's to the most exciting offseason in a VERY long time!

by wjb1492 on May 29, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

And here I thought the #1 pick was a fresh start for Paxson

Here he is given the greatest gift any GM can dream of (save for trading for Kobe or LeBron), yet he still needs to pander on like the same clueless buffoon that watched the team he constructed implode over a whole season and did nothing about it. Dammit Paxson, for some reason fate has REWARDED you for promoting the hack formerly known as Jim Boylan with the chance to draft one of 2 players who could dramatically alter the next few years of this team, why must you tempt it?

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 29, 2008 12:55 AM CDT reply actions  

I heard

that Pax will trade the #1 pick for six pack of Bud and a double cheeseburger. I can’t tell you my sources though, but please spread this around the internet so we can all laugh at Paxson more, threaten never to watch another game, and reference this third hand rumor in future years as evidence Paxson is a bad GM even though it never happened. Paxson is operating as he always has and likely won’t change, grow a sense of humor, or give time tables. This is old news.

by cranscape on May 29, 2008 8:25 AM CDT reply actions  

well the evidence is that the team was awful

was he always this way? I’m not so sure. I think the summer of Bryant really got to him.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 29, 2008 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

some interesting lil nuggets from the KC article

There was a lot of stuff going on his his article today…

“I’d like to have a guy in place sooner rather than later, and I’m confident I will,” Paxson said. “But I’m still looking. I’m touching base with a few people I’ve already spoken to. That’s where that is. And I probably will talk to one new person.”

Sources said Jazz assistant Tyrone Corbin and former Minnesota coach Dwane Casey were scheduled to speak to Paxson again about the job while attending the predraft camp.

and

Given the public nature of the D’Antoni talks collapsing, the Bulls and Johnson are keeping their back-and-forth extremely private.

I’m not sure how to read that. Does it mean there has been a ton of contact between the two?

and

Paxson doesn’t feel the need to wait to talk to Celtics assistant Tom Thibodeau or Pistons assistant Michael Curry, with the latter not expected to be granted permission from Detroit to interview anyway.

So it sounds like Thibs is no longer in the race?

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/cs-080528-chicago-bulls-john-paxson-coaching,1,6067146.story

by NormVanBeer on May 29, 2008 8:26 AM CDT reply actions  

i don't know if that's the right assumption

i sort of take away that if he finds the “right person” he will go ahead and offer the job to him. but if not, he still may talk to thibs when the celts get eliminated/win.

by Jaina on May 29, 2008 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

i disagree

“doesn’t feel the need to wait to talk to Celtics assistant Tom Thibodeau” seems pretty clear-cut to me. I don’t know, you could be right I guess. At this point, all the Paxspeak has us all going around in circles anyway

by NormVanBeer on May 29, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, i don't know

i guess i don’t believe that it means he’s out of the race entirely, but that maybe he’s not that high on him all of a sudden. who knows. i wish it would just be over with already though.

by Jaina on May 29, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

this should be in its own fanpost.

(I don’t mean for that to come out like I don’t appreciate the comment. Just as a suggestion that this is an independent discussion from this post)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 29, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

gotcha

i was debating whether to make a fanpost or not. Feel free to move it if you would like.

by NormVanBeer on May 29, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't really 'move' it.

so if you could just re-post it as a fanpost that’d be best.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 29, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

oh ok

i was always under the impression that you had the “powers” to move things.

by NormVanBeer on May 29, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Truer words

were never spoken.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on May 29, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

this is also the guy that reported

Aaron Gray was going to step in as a starter after he had a good day at training camp.

my friends still rip on me for passing on that juicy nugget.

by Orlando Woolridge on May 29, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm disappointed, Matt -

While you indicate that the blogger “admits accepting such an offer would be lunacy for the Bulls”, you didn’t indicate above that he also wrote that:

No way the Bulls accept that Memphis trade.

This changes the picture from your post which leaves it open-ended that the Bulls are considering such a deal, no?

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by Jivas on May 29, 2008 9:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Matt's just fanning the flames....

It’s all about page hits…

2008 or bust.

by bullshooter on May 29, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nope

if I comment less, it cuts tygger’s comments by 3, so it’s a win-win. :-)

2008 or bust.

by bullshooter on May 29, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

eh?

I don’t think it was open ended at all. I said the blogger said there’s ‘no way’. And that was speculation on his part anyway.

Plus, I said I enjoyed thinking about Pax salivating over Kevin Love, not that he’d actually consider this deal. He gave Adrian Griffin a 3-year contract, I’d say there’s some precedent for overvaluing scrappiness..

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 29, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

also, I thought I made it pretty clear from the outset

that I was just commenting on Pax’s twitchiness, not necessarily how it impacts his job. At least not yet.

In conclusion, you all can go to hell :-)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 29, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry about the quotes

Dammit! I’ll learn how to use this sometime…the first line was from the blog, the second is from me.

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by Jivas on May 29, 2008 9:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Who would u rather have....

as a GM …..Paxson(with his slow moving processes) or Jerry Krause(with his Turkey neck jigglin…i know yall remember when they won the lottery in 99 his neck wouldnt stop movin YUK!!! lol) I agree Pax has made some mistakes…Ben Wallace…Ty Thomas(he still has a chance to be good)...if Pax finds a way to screw this up then i think we should light the torches and march to the Berto Center…my prediction is he picks Rose and hires Avery( the mouth) Johnson and the Bulls will be back to their winning ways….U DIG!!!

CHICAGO MANE!!!!

by YEP on May 29, 2008 9:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Only a total retard would accept that trade offer.

I will hang Paxson (in effigy) if that happens.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on May 29, 2008 4:33 PM CDT reply actions  

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