ESPN: Paxson wants Rose? (Sorta?)

by YaoPau on May 21, 2008 8:13 PM CDT Comment 61 comments

[ed. note: From the FanPosts. I agree that this is taking substantial liberties with Paxson's notoriously vague comments, but Pax's mentioned 'leadership' enough in his media tour to make it seem he's at least initially leading Rose. Now it's just waiting until they get both to the Berto Center and getting their basketball information. If only Skiles was around to stare at them both. -m ]

Unless I'm reading this entirely wrong, ESPN's Chris Sprow and Scott Powers just reported that Paxson is all for getting Derrick Rose.

[Schanwald] used his mic time on ESPN (after being introduced incorrectly, because, who the hell was this guy? He handles the vending accounts.) to give the Bulls season ticket number a national plug, then practically lobby for Chicago hometown star Derrick Rose on the conference call, before Bull VP John Paxson said "Ahem," and then basically did the same.

Just how many ways can you say "Rose" fellas, and still claim to be looking at other flowers in this draft class?

"I think you always take a look at that, but so much can happen between now and the draft," said Paxson. "We will look at what we can do to balance our roster out better, so when we do make the selection, our roster is a better equipped. I think you look at everything. Need is obviously important, but we have a lot of different needs. We need leadership on our team."

To describe "leadership" Paxson clumsily waxed about how quickly Chris Paul has taken New Orleans to where they are, and how he's a great leader. And that's what you need. And point guards are natural leaders. And … you get the point.

I don't know how much I trust the paraphrasing, but I can't imagine Paxson would want to "balance our roster out better" if he were intent on drafting Beasley.

I'm happy about this.

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I read that...

...and assumed that the writer did a poor job characterizing what was said. Paxson is way too tight-lipped and close-to-the-vest to ever give away such indications.

For crying out loud, he refused to admit publicly that Tyrus was his guy a couple of years ago, continuing to insist to the media that it was neck-and-neck between TT and Aldridge (with the trade compensation providing the advantage to TT), when it was clear to everyone that Pax coveted TT!

by Jivas on May 21, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Happy Happy Happy

all of the time!

I enjoyed that read. Thanks!

Joakim Noah for player/coach!

by marionette on May 21, 2008 9:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ira Winderman thinks there's some hope of the Bulls taking Beasley

in his blog.

To advance the story ever so slightly, a source familiar with the situation warned that those writing off the notion of the Bulls taking Beasley over Rose might be getting ahead of themselves. We’re talking someone very close to the situation.

Somewhere I read someone claiming Jim Paxson was talking Beasley up in an interview in Oregon. Jim Paxson being involved in the decision making process is still a scary thing. And, I still doubt the Bulls draft Beasley when it’s said and done.

formerly sbulls

by Scotter on May 21, 2008 10:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I read that earlier today and thought

“Who the heck is Ira’s source in Chicago?”

Isn’t the guy just a lowly beat writer? Maybe he has ears everywhere, but it sounds like agent leakage to me, or just a lame Pat Riley misinformation plot. Where’s NBA Observer when Beasley’s people are actually relevant? I seriously doubt there’s a Fredo Corleone scenario going down too.

by hscs on May 21, 2008 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

heh

He’s a beat writer, but I think he’s been an NBA beat writer for a long time. They don’t always do the KC shuffle between sports.

But you’re right, we need NBAO’s ‘wire’-esque bulletin board. All the pieces matter.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 22, 2008 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

Jim Paxson worries me. I mean, that’s the guy that let Carlos Boozer out of his contract, perhaps at the urging of his owner, but man, that’s damn stupid to even be an accomplice to. I hope John tells him to sit out the next couple of plays.

But let’s be fair because B-Easy is a beast. Mike Beastly, B-Easy, the guy also has nicknames out the wazoo. Let’s say he can project out to be an Amare Stoudemire with three-point range and better handles, if he measures out to be 6’ 10”, that’s huge. If he measures out to be 6’ 8”, I’d be a little worried because he’s not going to be playing those little college power forwards on a nightly basis. It looks like he has a large wingspan, the guy is going to be a monster, not sure if he will be a winner, though, but whoever has the #2 pick should feel thankful and fortunate.

Rose #1, though, I think Pax is firmly leaning this way. I have a feeling that Pat Riley and Pax will be talking to each other quite a bit this summer.

by messwiththebull on May 22, 2008 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would've also accepted

“Bullsly”

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 22, 2008 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Paxson wants Rose?

music to my ears….

by exult463 on May 21, 2008 10:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

was there ever any doubt?

character? check
work ethic? check
final four? check
winner? check

does Beasley pass all these checks? didn’t think so … we’re talking about John Paxson here people. for the 70% of you who want Rose, you have absolutely no reason to worry.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/961332,rose052008.article

by Orange Juice on May 21, 2008 11:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

it would be funny

Paxson sitting in that assembly hall thinking of what pick to do….welll rose meets all of my requirements, but that website blogabull always thought i was an idiot for my checklist….yes….they being the greatest and smartest bulls fans ever assembled thought i was too blue collared, maybe its time to change it up, i got enough blue collared players….alright!!!

WIth the First Draft Pick of 2008 the chicago bulls select….Beasley from Kansas State…..

im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on May 22, 2008 3:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LAUGHIN MY FUCKIN ASS OFF!

man after i read this post i seriously laughed so loud i woke up my girlfriend sleeping in the next room.

PS: i am so scared about rootin’ for Rose. All this past year i’ve ranted on every blog i could saying “FUCK PAX, PAX IS AN IDIOT ” etc etc. i hope im wrong and this will turn the most hated man in Chicago to the most loved. ROSE can be the next CP3 and HE play’s DEFENSE!!!!

by AFireInside661 on May 23, 2008 3:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

either player will be great

Last night I wanted Rose badly, but the more I think about It I really think we will be fine with either guy. I think Pax should spend the next five weeks seeing what he can get with the guys on his roster. If GSW would do a Tyrus, Gordon, Thabo for Davis trade then draft Beasley. If you can get Brand for those guys you draft Rose.

by Devin47 on May 21, 2008 11:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't give up hope on Thabo

Replace Thabo with Kirk then I think it makes more sense. Salary wise as well even though I still doubt they match

by Option27 on May 21, 2008 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We could sign Gordon

to whatever we need to complete the deal. Also I cannot see Nelly wanting Kirk.

by Devin47 on May 22, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Great Read

Worst case scenario will be trading the pick for a quick fix…

Thabo should be starting and will start…6’7 guard? nuff said

by SK23 on May 21, 2008 11:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

For all u kirk haters out there

would the trading of kirk lead to the resigning of Duhon? I mean i know the fact of having Rose might compensate that but if and mostly when Rose struggles wouldn’t you rather have Kirk in there to back him up? Or does the fact of him learning from his own mistakes out weigh that too?

by eross226 on May 21, 2008 11:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Why if someone wants Rose must be a "Kirk hater"?

I’m actually agree with the posts suggested to keep Kirk for year or so.
He will be a good back up point and will take some pressure off of rookies’ shoulders.
If Hinrich plays like he did in 06-07 season his value will go up and then we can trade him.
So take Rose,keep Hinrich and make Gordon agree for 3mill per year deal.

"YES,WE CAN!"-B.OBAMA.

by Azabullsfan on May 22, 2008 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

OK,Ben,Ok-6mill per.Period!

"YES,WE CAN!"-B.OBAMA.

by Azabullsfan on May 22, 2008 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I actually prefer Du-du

Sorry. I like that he doesn’t dribble in circles.

by iBurkey on May 23, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's so much better than he stands in the same spot

and dribbles for 16 seconds.

formerly sbulls

by Scotter on May 23, 2008 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd rather have that at $3m per

than a $9m per year backup who’s not even a PG.

by messwiththebull on May 22, 2008 12:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ft. Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel: Bulls will take Beasley

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl-flspheatnote22sbmay22,0,6275638.story

However, a source familiar with the dealings said Wednesday that the Bulls have laid out a plan to take Beasley, with Heat President Pat Riley left with Rose.
The insider insisted, “No. 1 and No. 2 are booked and done.”

I don’t buy this for a minute, but it’s still interesting. At the very least, someone out there wants people to think the Bulls are taking Beasley.

by Big D on May 22, 2008 1:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

that makes me a little ill

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on May 22, 2008 7:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

bleh

F HINRICH

by 234L on May 22, 2008 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow

I really hope they havent made their minds up yet. The more I think about, the more it seems like Beasley is the choice to me. Tell me this, would anyone here trade someone who averaged 26 and 12 for someone who averaged 15, 5 and 5 if they’re the same age? Add in the fact that Beasley shot 54% and Rose shot 47% and they were about even in turnovers then judging statistically, there’s no argument. Sure, Memphis was the better team but they also played against much worse competition, and Rose had four potential NBA players along with him in the starting five where Beasley had Walker and thats about it, with no real point guard. To me, you have to pick Beasley and that’s before even taking into account the fact that we’d have to overhaul our roster in some way if we draft Rose and if we draft Beasley we have two highly tradaable power forwards in Gooden and Thomas.

The only thing that could swing my judgment on this I think, aside from something coming out that Hinrich and/or Gordon will net us a young big man with scoring potential, is if Beasley turns out to be only 6’7” instead of 6’8 or 6’9 but from what I’ve read thats unlikely. I understand the NCAA tournament is fresh in peoples minds and that Rose impressed, but that doesn’t mean you should forget about the rest of the season. And here’s something I haven’t seen mentioned, I think Rose is going to be great but let’s be honest, if he was truly THAT good, he wouldn’t have let Memphis lose a 10 point lead with 4 minutes left.

by JSlakov on May 22, 2008 1:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I think you answered your own question

Rose had four potential NBA players along with him in the starting five where Beasley had Walker and thats about it

It’s hard to put up big numbers when you’re sharing the ball with four phenoms. Plus, Rose averaged 21 – 6 – 6 in the NCAA tournament, and was MVP of Memphis’ tournament bracket, outshining his four more seasoned teammates. Also keep in mind that some players like Kris Humphries and Michael Sweetney put up huge stats in college and turned out to be mediocre pros, while other players like Deron Williams put up so-so college stats and turned out to be stars.

Basically, I think you’re putting too much stock into Beasley’s numbers against 6’7” Big 12 stiffs.

by YaoPau on May 22, 2008 4:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It also means that Beasley drew more defensive attention.

And don’t sell the Big 12 short.

Here's to the most exciting offseason in a VERY long time!

by wjb1492 on May 24, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Beasley should shoot over 50%

He’s a PF, that’s a benchmark for success. Rose is a PG, if he shoots at least 45% in his rookie season I’d be impressed.

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 22, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

warning: don't look at Tyrus' FG%

:-)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 22, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just did :(

Nah, I’m talking about PF’s who have an established inside game. Tyrus has had to improve his jumpshot a whole lot, which is why his FG% is weak. Also, if he wasn’t getting a dunk or trip to the foul line, he most assuredly wasn’t going to do much with the ball. And 50% is too high actually…..47-48% for young players seems more appropriate. Elton Brand shot 48% his rookie year, I’d expect Beasley to be around that unless he just goes bananas with 3 pointers.

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 22, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tyrus is a SF masquerading as a PF, like Kemp was before all the cheeseburgers....

by iBurkey on May 23, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So if Chalmers three rims out he's number one?

And to YaoPau’s point Beasley averaged 18 shot attempts per game to Rose’s 11. So sure judging statistically just raw point totals there’s no argument, but the best player on the court is not always the one with the highest ppg totals.

Turnovers the same thing, if they are about even that’s advantage to Rose who starts every possesion with the ball in his hands opposed to Beasley who generally gets in already in a position to score it.

by CrashDavis on May 22, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

rose played with other good players

true that is a large reason for his success, but what was remarkable was his ability to be the best among all of the good young players on the court and his ability to lead his crew to the championship. initially his good teammates can be seen as a negative, but i think there is more to…

F HINRICH

by 234L on May 22, 2008 8:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Playing with great teammates in college shouldn't be seen as a detriment

Last year, there were 4 guys from Florida taken in the draft. That didn’t stop Horford from having a ROY-caliber season and Noah stepping up and being a good starting center for the Bulls. MJ played with James Worthy, Kenny Smith, and Sam Perkins at UNC. When there is someone special, we are usually able to see past the mediocre stats.

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 22, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lets play it the other way

The Bulls have other good players too, so Rose will be used to it!

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 22, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

kinda why i think they take rose

Noah, TT, Deng, and gordon… that is the reverse chronology of paxson’s picks… before that they took kirk…. that is methodically drafting a guy to start at all roster spots, it only makes sense that he stays with the trend and goes back to drafting Rose a PG. especially since TT, Noah, and Deng are recent lottery picks at Beasley’s potential positions and if you draft a pg like rose Pax has a chance to look like a genius because Rose will maximize Deng, TT and Noah, erasing any possible regrets about TT and Deng who have suffered tremendously from the lack of quality PG….

right or wrong pax has spent the last several years acquiring pieces that are (at least were thought to be prior to last season) an effective court leader QB (pg) away from being great individually and as a team.

F HINRICH

by 234L on May 22, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not saying its a detriment

I’m saying its part of the story. Anyone who’s played basketball knows everyones job is easier when there’s other good players playing with you. Maybe Rose wasn’t asked to do as much but you’d think with that team he’d be able to at least average more assists, shoot a higher percentage and keep his turnovers down. And you can’t say “well we should take Rose because he’s a winner” when Beasley would have certainly gotten at least as far with that kind of talent around him.

by JSlakov on May 22, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

according to his former coach

Rose could have scored 30 every game, but chose to improve others and go for the win…

F HINRICH

by 234L on May 22, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Watch Memphis' offense.

It wasn’t set up for Rose to get assists. They play a lot of drive and kick to open up holes for another drive not an immediate shot attempt.

by CrashDavis on May 22, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The point about the asststs is completely bogus.

You should know this as a statistician.

Every player in Calipari’s DDM offense is supposed to drive to the basket. If he gets cut off, he passes it out for the next guy to try to drive to the basket. The first thing they do when they get the ball is dribble it, thus negating the possibility of generating a assist.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on May 22, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm going out on a limb and saying Slakov is a data-entry person.

Not a statistician.

by tyger1147 on May 25, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ha-ha

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on May 25, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well

its pretty much semantics. my official title is Statistics Associate but they just changed that from Data Editor. I mean, a large part of it is knowing the program and being able to quickly input the plays but also you need to know the rules well and how they’re going to score things, whether or not something is an assist, when something is ruled a shot and when its ruled a turnover.

Make whatever assumptions you want about me based on a few blog posts, but my point in bringing up my job is I worked in a building where every single Kansas State and Memphis game was televised and often I was forced to watch them very closely as part of my job and often when I had down time I was interested in those two teams just as a college basketball fan. I watched hundreds of college basketball games this season. I think that makes my opinions fairly credible and I’d say more informed than people who saw Memphis in a few tournament games and decided Rose was the best player in the nation.

by JSlakov on May 26, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

::raises hand::

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 26, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The offense he played in at Memphis doesn't generate assists for PG

Because his prime target immediately puts the ball on the floor for a dribble or two, negating the assist… Just like the PG won’t necessarily get the assist out a pick and roll, if the roller dishes- even if the prime spacing created was by the PG.

by iBurkey on May 23, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i guess i should have read above.

by iBurkey on May 23, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No matter the offense

I’d think a transcendent point guard would be able to create more than 4 and change assists a game whether it be on the break, or just finding openings outside of the gameplan. Again, I’m not saying he’s not going to be a great player its just that people seem to think he’s better than Beasley when there’s not a lot of evidence for that that isn’t anecdotal based on exciting tournament games.

by JSlakov on May 22, 2008 2:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I think they're both fantastic players

And if we end up with Beasley I won’t hate it.

But, I’m not basing this on the tournament. I’ve been watching him since he was in high school and he is an incredible point guard. If you want to look at one year of college stats and decide that he’s not good that’s your own deal. But to me an awesome point guard is more important than an awsome 3/4 tweener.

by CrashDavis on May 22, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

no matter what anyone says

you keep posting the same thing, over and over. We get it, you don’t think he had enough assists in his one season at Memphis. Your whole basis for picking Beasley over Rose is purely statistical. I think Rose will be able to get to the basket at will because of his speed and strength. And I think he will be able to finish as well. He is a better athlete and defensive player than Beasley. He has proven himself to be more coachable and more mature. Instead of just criticizing Rose, tell me why you think Beasley is better. And you can start by telling me how Beasley is any different than David West.

by DangerMouse on May 22, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Im not so sure about that

Rose being a better athlete than beasley…Rose is a tremendous athlete for a pg, but Beasley is a tremendous athlete for a forward. I think by design, an average f is usually more athletic then your average pg (you know, size, more muscle…and beasley is extremely quick for a forward)

im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on May 22, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is Carmleo more athletic than Chris Paul?

On average maybe, but Derrick Rose is far from average in terms of athletic ability. The man can get high…..and not like Josh Howard.

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 22, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

okay....

Yes i think carmello is more athletic then chris paul…...how are you defining athleticism by the way? Just through hops? Overall speed, who can lift more? Bigger guys just naturallly tend to be more athletic, until you get to like the 7 ft mark or so in which case you get hit with giantism or something.

im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on May 22, 2008 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i was defining athleticism relative

to their position. how are you defining athleticism? Rose is faster, has a higher vertical leap and appears to be much physically stronger for his size. Beasley is taller. A great athlete of course, but I don’t know how you are defining athleticism.

by DangerMouse on May 23, 2008 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Initially i was

Comparing the twos athleticism to each other. Your “Is Carmleo more athletic than Chris Paul? ” sort of helped me go in that direction (because paul and melo are not playing the same position so i dont get why you would ask that question). I am not sure (and wont be until all the tests and measurements come out) but i think that compared to position Beasley would be up there, although i guess you would have to find a way to do the math to determine who has more athleticism for thier position.

im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on May 23, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

exactly. Atheleticism is not size dependent, and usually skill drops with size

Just like the other post about jump shots- if people learn a jump shot to early, they tend to stop going to the hole, and never develop into a real stud. Rose is obviously the better specimen, especially at his position, whereas Beasley is undersized at his, and seriously from the film, it looks like he’s more of a big SG than a PF, the way he plays on O. There are other guards (Kidd, MJ) who were heck of a rebounder as well. And other SG’s (McGrady) who were tall, albeit Tracy is a skinny dude, to his detriment (injuries)....

by iBurkey on May 23, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Beasley is more Carmelo than David West

Although he does have the undersized body of West.

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 22, 2008 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

do I?

I think I’ve said that I think Beasley fits the Bulls needs more than Rose which isnt a statistical argument and I’ll just say it, I think Beasley is better than Rose. I’m using statistics to make that point because they do a pretty solid job of showing it, but if you really want me to shy away from statistics, then I’ll do so:

I like Rose alot, he’s big, he can finish and he’s a good defender but his jumpshot is questionable and I havent seen the type of playmaking of a Paul or Nash. I think there’s a good chance he’ll make an all NBA team someday but people act like he’s going to come into the league and be a top 5 point guard and with the abundance of point guard talent, that’s not gonna happen: Paul, Williams, Parker, Davis, Billups, Nash, Arenas off the top of my head all wil have something to say about that. This is coming from someone who had Memphis winning the NCAA tournament since before the season started because I thought Rose woud be that big of an addition for them.

As for Beasley, the guy can score in every way possible, he’s incredibely skilled, strong and athletic, can finish with both hands, can shoot out to the college three at least, also has an NBA body at 19, and put up huge numbers against NBA quality defenders like Darnell Jackson, Darell Arthur and Damian James, James Jones, and Marcus Dove. He had arguably the best season ever by a freshman and everyone who watched him was blown away. To me, he looks like he could be a once in a lifetime talent. I’ve seen plenty of comparisons for Rose but theres no one who really does all the things Beasley is capable of. You compare him to David West as if thats a bad thing and I guarantee if we had David West we would have been in the playoffs this year, but David West played 4 years at Xavier and in his senior year still was far from Beasley’s production.

I’m not saying that I’m certain Beasley will be better than Rose, but it seems incredibely shortsighted to me to choose Rose just because he’s a point guard and supposedly a leader and recent seasons by Paul and Nash have made those very trendy things. The evidence to me says that Beasley is better and its the Bulls job to pick the guy who they think will be the better basketball player, not the one who fits the current popular mold.

by JSlakov on May 22, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Derrick Coleman's name also comes up, which seems

a nice combination of skill comparison and character comparison.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on May 22, 2008 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

not "no matter the offense"

His job in that O is to abide, and dish to the next guy. When players go on 1-5 and pretend they are transcendent, it usually gets their team beat. Doug Collins calls them “hero shots”.

by iBurkey on May 23, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

if Paxson takes Rose

I would love to see Paxson take Rose. I’m a Pistons fan, and I’d love to see that happen. That would ensure: 1) a young, weak Bulls team without an identity and a low post presence and 2) would ensure that Miami would either take Beasley or Mayo, neither of which are good picks.

If Chicago takes Beasley, which they should, Miami would get Rose- teamed with Wade and Marion. That would be the Biggest Three in the Eastern Conference. But if Chicago takes Rose, Miami is still fucked, and Chicago gets a new point guard who will be owned by Rodney Stuckey, Jose Calderon and others.

Please, please, please—let Chicago take Rose. The rest of us in the Eastern Conference will continue to celebrate Chicago’s irrelevance.

by thethinktank on May 27, 2008 1:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yes because Rose has no chance of ever becoming a good NBA player

But Rodney Stuckey and Aaron Afflalo are going to dominate the league for the next decade. Oh, and don’t forget Amir Johnson is the best player to never play enough minutes…..oh wait that’s Tyrus Thomas :)

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 29, 2008 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs