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Honestly, it seems that some commenters here are more excited coming up with scenarios to get Kirk traded than they are about getting a top pick (and I presume) taking Rose.

Frankly, it's a bit of a downer. Not that the Bulls can't do well by dealing Hinrich, but I don't think he'd be useless in a combination with Rose and Gordon (and Thabo), or that his contract is that crippling considering how little Rose will be paid and assuming you can deal Nocioni (no need to pay a 6th AND 7th man that much money/years) to free up some space.

But I won't completely ruin your fun, so...have at it. Here.

As an added bonus to the Kirk h8torz, In theory those who love Kirk more than the Bulls (are there any other players who get this treatment?) will stay away, given the title. But we know how that usually goes...

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Theory is wrong

I’d still be a Bulls fan and spend plenty of time here. And I’d only point out how well Kirk is doing on his new team once or twice a month.

But other than saying that, I’ll stay away and leave the anti-Kirk-club to its wheeling and dealing.

My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!

by wjb1492 on May 21, 2008 12:12 AM CDT   0 recs

that's what I meant

just this thread in particular.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 21, 2008 12:14 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hinrich to RIley...

for Mark Blount and their 2nd Rd. Pick in 2009?

someone do the trade machine

by Orlando Woolridge on May 21, 2008 12:25 AM CDT   0 recs

I think Kirk

Should be packaged with Gordon and Gooden (Hughes also if possible) for a solid SG or PF

by Option27 on May 21, 2008 12:32 AM CDT   0 recs

Hughes is a big problem.

albatross contract. still less than the corpse’s deal.

something has to give in our backcourt, and methinks it will be Hinrich since we’re going to draft Rose, and still have to pay Hughes. Thabo and Gordon are god deals for this year.

by Orlando Woolridge on May 21, 2008 12:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hughes would expire

in the magical Summer of free agency, 2010. Plenty of shooting guards should be available at that time.

by NBA Observer on May 21, 2008 12:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

We'd have take...

like a trillion dollars back in salaries to make that work.

by BoxingHideout on May 21, 2008 12:45 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Portland wants him

with the usual expiring contract Jack 13 pick offfer.
We’ll need another team to facilitate the trade.
That’s way better than the Blount trade proposed above.

by Falcao on May 21, 2008 12:48 AM CDT   0 recs

Frank Isola reporting on NBA TV

that Hinrich is “according to other sources, on the move”.

Isola is legit, but you never know.

by Orlando Woolridge on May 21, 2008 12:53 AM CDT   0 recs

already?

that’s a little fast I think. The other issue is I actually think a three guard rotation of Kirk, Ben, Rose could be pretty good…let Kirk bring back his trade value…then move him if a good deal presents itself.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on May 21, 2008 8:16 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It hasn't even been 24 hours

Since the Bulls got the 1st pick…..you think Paxson is on the phone that quickly about Kirk, when he was jerking around about getting a coach for over a month?

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on May 21, 2008 1:52 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Pick a team, then a coach

That way you get the right coach and the right team, rather than picking a coach and then having him get sour over some of the moves you make. Its no good for a team to get a coach, get used to the idea, think about all the cool offenses they can run, and then have to go through the upheaval of what are sure to be massive trades.

by JockstrapNoah on May 24, 2008 1:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Coming from a portland fan,

how about for Travis Outlaw straight up, with a trade exception to balance salaries?

Thanks PA, KP, Nate, BRoy, LMA, GO, 'Tell, Trout, JJ's, Buffet, Blake (not Blakey), Thrilla Hundred-dolla Billa, McBob (just 'cuz you're cool), Sergio (just 'cuz you've got flash), and Raef (ummm...just 'cuz)....and Dean Demo, Maurice, Monty (You rock Monty!), Bill Bayno (good luck with your new job), Bobby, Jay, and everyone else I'm forgetting (scouts, other front office people) who made the Return of Rip City possible, including the media (Mike B., Casey, Dave, Ben). And tominhawaii. Can't forget him.

by prezofdeath on May 21, 2008 2:29 AM CDT   0 recs

No way Prez!

How dare yee! What if Annthefan saw you, she’d be so disappointed.

If the Bulls take Rose, I doubt we’d need to give up Travis Outlaw to get Hinrich. That’s overkill. Jack and #13 pick (Westbrook, the Italian kid bound to disappoint, etc) is plenty for an overpaid guard coming off a purty disappointing season.

I was gonna link this thread to Blazers Edge, to show Blazer fans what Hinrich haters think he’s worth and to learn what familiarity-breeds-contempt type things we should worry about with Hinrich, but now I’m not sure if I should for your sake, as your treachery in trading Outlaw when we wouldn’t need to trade him knows no bounds. FOR SHAME.

Ok, you won’t be the only one who suggests Outlaw for Hinrich. I’ll link this anyways.

So, Kirk haters, let Blazer fans know why he sucks so much. Don’t worry about making us not want him; Kevin Pritchard the GM won’t see and even if ya turn some fans off to the idea it won’t hurt your chances of moving Hinrich.

Again, congrats on the #1 pick.

And Prez, you get home RIGHT THIS MINUTE, mister! Outlaw for Hinrich, I swear… you’re gonna get it when Ann gets home.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on May 21, 2008 4:05 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

*runs home and hides in the corner*

I’m sorryyyyyyyy!!! I recant! I recant!

New offer: Von Wafer for Kirk and your number 1 pick. And maybe we’ll send you our number one ball boy. Maybe.

Thanks PA, KP, Nate, BRoy, LMA, GO, 'Tell, Trout, JJ's, Buffet, Blake (not Blakey), Thrilla Hundred-dolla Billa, McBob (just 'cuz you're cool), Sergio (just 'cuz you've got flash), and Raef (ummm...just 'cuz)....and Dean Demo, Maurice, Monty (You rock Monty!), Bill Bayno (good luck with your new job), Bobby, Jay, and everyone else I'm forgetting (scouts, other front office people) who made the Return of Rip City possible, including the media (Mike B., Casey, Dave, Ben). And tominhawaii. Can't forget him.

by prezofdeath on May 21, 2008 1:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

So wait a tick! We're staying we can still get Brandon Rush?

Heh. What are Kirk and Nocioni’s values to other teams. Is it possible to trade them (plus maybe the exception) for an expiring contract and a late-teens, early-20’s pick? Throw in next year’s first rounder along w/ Nocioni and maybe they get the Raptor’s pick???

hahahahaha I’m ridiculous

by tyger1147 on May 21, 2008 7:12 AM CDT   0 recs

you can't combine with an exception

If they could find a way to dump Nocioni for someone who just doesn’t want to play, that works too. Either him or Hinrich HAVE to go.

But really they can’t decide that until seeing how it goes with the RFAs.

Rose
Gordon
Deng
Tyrus
Noah

bench: Hinrich (1st guard), Gooden (1st big), Thabo (Deng backup).

::drool::

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 21, 2008 8:07 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Looks good to me

but I would go a little further and try to trade Gooden, Noc and next years #1 for a better PF (than Gooden) or some combination of Gordon/Hinrich/Noc/Gooden and next years #1 for a better SG.

by JeffD on May 21, 2008 11:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

matt

if you do the “8” in “h8orz” you don’t need the “t”! the “t” is in 8! duh!! ;) get your 1337 speak right, jeez :D

by Jaina on May 21, 2008 7:24 AM CDT   0 recs

honestly, I really shouldn't even try that anymore

I’m not fluent in that language, just trying to emphasize the lameness of the ‘hater’ label.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 21, 2008 8:04 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

funny if i would have said that i would have been banned

Cyber- bullys are the headers of this site

by Cherishfaith on May 21, 2008 2:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

If you don't like the site...

...go complain somewhere else. No one is forcing you to be here.

"I took a couple of bad shots," Gordon said

by BNeL21 on May 21, 2008 2:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

wow

no one was talking to you and i love the site and i love you too brother

Cyber- bullys are the headers of this site

by Cherishfaith on May 21, 2008 2:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

well, congrats

you are now a martyr, like someone from ancient times. Can’t place his name….

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 21, 2008 2:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks

And his name is Michael Beasley

Cyber- bullys are the headers of this site

by Cherishfaith on May 21, 2008 2:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i've been around all season

not some n00b who just joined cause the bulls won the lottery.

by Jaina on May 21, 2008 2:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

this thread is awesome

I have long wanted kirk to be traded or out of the starting lineup. Kirk is a decent backup point guard but as a starter he takes away too many minutes from other guards who can do more on the court (even if they are BG or hughes). If we get rose we have to move either kirk or hughes. I’m excited to see rose and BG together as i think BG will get many more open shots. hughes is more dynamic than kirk, but gets paid a lot which makes him more likely to be included in a trade with nocioni for a better sg or sf.

The bulls may also go for an additional dratf pick… drafting rose and then trading kirk, noc and next years 1st for a pick in the late teens (maybe to draft Love). adding rose and love would be a major improvement. basically rose plus anybody would be an improvement. i’m very excitied abut the possibilities with rose, especiallly the trade possibilities…. drafting him will create a logjam and guard so lets trade kirk because he really stinks even tho hughes is more expensive and at least he adds something.

F HINRICH

by 234L on May 21, 2008 8:21 AM CDT   0 recs

Half the positive of winning last night was that we don't have to worry about

getting stuck with Love, and now you want to trade for him?

My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!

by wjb1492 on May 21, 2008 11:26 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

not particularly...

but does pax??

i do think that in addition to drafting Rose the bulls will try to add another player… trading for a veteran star would be my preference, but we may be able to ditch some contracts and get a high pick in return. While i think Love is athletically challenged and would slot him in as Deng’s backup the prospect of his outlet passing and Rose’s speed is intriguing….

F HINRICH

by 234L on May 21, 2008 11:33 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The team is already so young,

the last thing I want to see is additional draft picks. It seems like we do this every year around draft time, but look back at last year’s draft and see how many of them are seriously contributing much of anything. I’m not disagreeing that the Bulls need to consolidate some positions and get to a workable rotation, just that more draft picks is the way to go. I guess it wouldn’t be awful as long as they’re willing to send whoever to the NBDL to get playing time, but it seems to me we already have plenty of guys in backup positions who need PT.

My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!

by wjb1492 on May 21, 2008 11:46 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I couldn't agree more

we don’t need more youth (besides Rose).

by swede2287 on May 21, 2008 11:57 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Is Hinrich this worthless?

Is that all we can get for Hinrich? I know Hinrich’s stock has dropped – but he almost made the Olympic roster a couples years ago. I agree we should trade him if we draft Rose. But I feel that we can get more for him than everyone’s indicating.

And if we can’t get more than what people are indicating (Jack, Draft Pick) then we shouldn’t trade him. I only want to trade if we get a star big man. We could give up some key pieces this offseason (Kirk, Bg, maybe Gooden). But if we’re not going to get a star big man, then let’s just hold onto Hinrich until maybe the trade deadline next year. Then his worth will probably be higher and we can trade him.

I have no interest in a draft pick or Jarret Jack in exchange for Kirk Hinrich.

by swede2287 on May 21, 2008 12:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Only problem is

If you draft Rose, Hinrich’s playing time will go so far down that his value will reduce as well because he just won’t have a chance to prove himself.

The Bulls will have to weigh Hinrich’s reduced value after an off season, versus how much lower he could fall when he’s only playing 15-18 minutes a night, plus having a biggish contract.

Plus, will Hinrich like playing that little? From afar he has seemed like a team first guy, but whatever made him play crappy this past season won’t likely be fixed by riding the pine for a star rookie.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on May 21, 2008 12:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Depends on who's here.

Kirk’s played more than his share of minutes at SG for someone labeled PG. Obvioulsy the Bulls can’t keep every guard and add Rose and have anywhere close to enough minutes, but Kirk’s not the only possible trade either.

My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!

by wjb1492 on May 21, 2008 12:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

True

But you don’t think the Bulls would want a scoring SG next to Rose, like Gordon or whoever, as opposed to Hinrich?

And Hinrich’s value still wouldn’t go up playing as an undersized 2.

Who has more value in a trade or by staying with the Bulls? You guys are better judges than I am, of course. Hinrich can spot up and shoot, so maybe that fits better than Gordon’s style.

So, Ben Gordon has to be signed, right? What’s his deal? I don’t want him for the Blazers; I can’t stand undersized chuckers. I’m just curious what his contract status is in regards to possible sign n’ trades. If he’ll be hard to trade and difficult to sign because he wants 10+ million, perhaps Hinrich becomes the guy to trade by default.

If I sound silly, keep in mind I’m just watching from afar.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on May 21, 2008 12:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

right, it all depends on Gordon's demands.

I’d say he’s worth the $10m though, sure he’s an undersized chucker, but WHAT an undersized chucker! :)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 21, 2008 12:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sorry

Didn’t mean to disparage Gordon TOO much :) I just figured you guys wanted some other team to deal with the problems having an undersized shoot-first two guard gives ya.

I don’t think Thabo or Hughes are better (and to me, seem a lot worse), and I think Gordon/Rose could be an athletic, dynamic combo. They could score on most anyone.

How do you think Gordon will respond to having a rookie control the ball all game, taking it outta his hands? I don’t have any idea what Gordon’s attitude is like, or if he’d go right along with that; I just see him shooting whenever I watch the Bulls.

Plus, he’s tiny and he can fit in fan’s shirt pocket, which is cute, so I see why he’s worth 10 large large.

For real though, is it Gordon’s leadership? Is he still considered clutch, like his rookie season? Why is he worth so much? Plus (and this will sound meaner than I want it to), how is Gordon not just a smaller Jamal Crawford?

Obviously Gordon can score, but he just seems like a dude you’ll always have to compensate for.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on May 21, 2008 1:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

My attempt at a reasonable trade.

Bulls and Blazers

Hinrich + Ced Simmons (+ 2009 First-round Top-3 protected)
—-—-—-—-for-—-—-—-—
Jarret Jack + Raef LaFrentz’s contract + #13 overall.

I’m not a fan of Jack at all, but he at least provides a better ball-handler than Gordon, Hughes or Thabo. He sucks on defense and can’t really shoot.

The Bulls can still go with the big-risk, moderate ceiling guys like Westbrook, Greene, Alexander, Koufos, Batum, Budinger, etc. I don’t see this happening, but it’s a possibility.

Actually looking at Jack more in-depth, throwing in next year’s (likely) borderline-lottery pick is probably unnecessary. But maybe they’ll see LaFrentz’s expiring deal as making it so.

by tyger1147 on May 21, 2008 8:47 AM CDT   0 recs

I like the idea of trying to sneak into the back end of the lottery

where we might find your guy waiting.

Maybe, at least according to what I read, his defense isn’t the greatest, but he’d immediately be the second best athlete on the team (after Rose, obviously), and would give the Bulls a potentially unbeatable backcourt.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on May 21, 2008 11:35 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

maybe

i could see a trade like this getting done if a guy pax loves… (Love?) is on the board here. Apparantly people hate on Channing Frye, but i was at AZ when he was and saw him play. he is a solid big and would add an offensive element to the frontcourt that is not there, especially if he is just a small piece in a trade that.

F HINRICH

by 234L on May 21, 2008 11:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i'd do it

for Budinger

F HINRICH

by 234L on May 21, 2008 11:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

We don't need more youth (besides Rose)

we can get more for Hinrich than everyone’s indicating. Or we should just hold onto him – maybe make a trade during next season when his trade value goes up.

by swede2287 on May 21, 2008 12:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Redd?

Redd maybe available . . .

blank”>http://my.journaltimes.com/post/woelfel-world-of-sports/bucks_check_out_their_options.html

How about Hinrich and Gordon for Redd? And any cap fillers needed

by Option27 on May 21, 2008 11:33 AM CDT   0 recs

Redd isn't that big an upgrade over Gordon

Redd is one of the worst defensive shooting guards in the league. Shocking but true.

by swede2287 on May 21, 2008 11:41 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

heh

(i hope that was a joke, anyway)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 21, 2008 12:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It wasn't.

He’s obsessed with height in the backcourt.

by tyger1147 on May 21, 2008 12:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No it wasn't

Tyger is right.

I am obsessed with height in the backcourt.

Also sick and tired of Pistons players constantly posting us up

by Option27 on May 21, 2008 12:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Redd = Z-Bo

Watching the Bucks this season, Redd reminded me SO MUCH of Zach Randolph… he took so many God damn bad shots, it made me angry and I don’t give a damn about the Bucks. He was AWFUL.

His numbers look decent, but he doesn’t play defense, actually YELLS at other teammates for taking ‘his’ shots, doesn’t shave his head even though he has a receding hairline, and clearly doesn’t care about winning as much as gettin’ his. He is Z-Bo in shooting guard form.

Awful, simply awful

Mortimer

by Mortimer on May 21, 2008 12:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Bad. Very Bad.

The consensus reason for why the Bulls should draft Beasley instead of Rose seems to be that the Bulls have already made a significant obligation to Captain Kirk Hinrich… if this ends up being true, and the Bulls pass on Rose because they are content with Kirk I will be beyond pissed.

F HINRICH

by 234L on May 21, 2008 11:47 AM CDT   0 recs

Playing devil's advocate on Beasley, Rose

1) Before NCAA tournament, Rose wasn’t even on radar to be first pick. Beasley has been consensus first pick all year before tournament.

1) We’ve tried to get a front-court star (20 and 10 guy) for years. Most agree the Bulls will never get over the top till we get this front-court guy. Beasley.

3) If Rose is picked, expect Hinrich or BG on block.
If Beasley is picked, expect Gooden, Tyrus, maybe Noah on block.

What’s got better trade value? Definitely our frontcourt.

Just playing devil’s advocate….I want ROSE!!!!

by swede2287 on May 21, 2008 11:55 AM CDT   0 recs

I dont know what your source is...

...but draftexpress.com has had him 2 or 3 all season. I’d guess that’s close enough to be “on the radar to be the first pick”.

by tyger1147 on May 21, 2008 12:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No publications had him as #1

before the NCAA tournament. If there was, then I’d love to see it. I said to be “the first pick” not to be a top-3 pick.

My source was Chad Ford.

Just playing devil’s advocate – I want Rose!!

by swede2287 on May 21, 2008 12:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It could be that...

Both players were freshmen its not like Rose sucked for 3 years than had a great tourney at the end of his senior year. He just didn’t get the hype until he played in front of a national audience. Besides who gives a crap about mock drafts.

"If you're not going to compete, then I'll dominate you." MJ

by Rankdog on May 22, 2008 12:18 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

trade value??!!??

our frontcourt has more trade value because they are better. because they are better we do not need to improve that aree as much as we do the guards… take ROSE

F HINRICH

by 234L on May 21, 2008 12:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Beasley is called #1 pick by most publications still....

I want ROSE.

But I’m just warning everyone. Wonder what Paxson is reading.

by swede2287 on May 21, 2008 12:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

If Beasley is picked they still don't have a center.

Unless you get a starting center in a Noah deal, you can’t trade Noah. Noah is a center until they get someone taller and/or bigger that isn’t Aaron Gray.

by JockstrapNoah on May 24, 2008 2:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I like deals with the Blazers

Two years ago I thought acquiring Joel Pryzbilla was one of the dumbest ideas. I was wrong. Let’s deal with the Blazers again.

Blazers need a PG upgrade(especially a defensive one with all the PG talent in the west now) and they need to make room for Greg Oden. So here’s my proposal. I have no idea if the numbers check out.

Blazers get
Kirk Hinrich(10 mil per)
Andres Nocioni(7.6 mil per)

Bulls get
Joel Pryzbilla(7mil per)
Steve Blake(4 mil per)
Rights to Rudy Fernandez(1 mil per)

Blazers make roster room for their young talent and upgrade at the PG position especially for defensive purposes. Hinrich handles the rock, but in crunch time it shifts to Roy. Nocioni gives they an already proven NBA bench player that can give you 15 points per at the pace the Blazers want to play at.

Bulls move some contracts, but get back what they really need most in a backup center, a backup point guard, and an NBA prospect SF/SG that can cut, catch lobs, and hit perimeter shots.

Blazers keep Lafraentz’ expiring contract which gives them the cap space to extend Roy and Aldridge in the Summer of 2009.

Thoughts?

by NBA Observer on May 21, 2008 12:04 PM CDT   0 recs

I think

It makes a hell of a lot more sense than any of the other Hinrich trades I’ve seen proposed on these post-lottery threads.

by jpx7 on May 21, 2008 12:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I need sold on Fernandez

And no it doesn’t work out. It’s simply math (7?+4+1?)*125% = 15.

You know, you can totally look this stuff up yourself.

by tyger1147 on May 21, 2008 12:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

ugh, no crap

“I have no idea” isn’t good enough. There’s plenty of ways to make sure at least get the salary matching in the ballpark.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 21, 2008 12:49 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Two points

Sorry to butt into the thread again, but here’s where the Blazers are at:

Until Oden is for sure healthy, Joel Pryzbilla is almost as untradeable as Roy/LMA/Oden. He is our only other true center, and this past season came through big with Oden being out. Oden will likely have some foul troubles, and Pryzzle will be one of the best (if not the best) back up centers in the league for a good price. I seriously doubt Joel would be moved for anything short of a gotta-do-it blockbuster.

Rudy is almost untouchable as well… the Blazers front office have worked very hard to convince Rudy to come over to the NBA, and he is forgoing huge Euro contracts (5-8 million a year with no taxes) to come to the Blazers specifically, and to only make a million bucks. Pritchard and Paul Allen have travelled to Spain, met Rudy’s pa, all that stuff. They LOVE him. I seriously doubt he’d be moved, and if he was traded before the season starts, I doubt he’d come over from Spain. And, then Portland would have a hell of a time convincing good Euros to come over after they screwed Rudy.

Blake is gettable, but since he’s more of a pure PG I’m sure the Blazers would throw in Jack instead, but more to open up playing time for Rudy (the Blazers are very high on Rudy).

Annoycioni probably isn’t what they’re looking for (probably), because of Martell and Outlaw playing in the same position. At least I hope they ain’t looking for Annoycioni and his big dumb contract and big dumb face…

In all trades with the Blazers, they will likely want to keep the big cap space coming up at the end of this upcoming season. That’s been the big plan from the start. If they take a big contract for Raef’s expiring deal, it has to be a ‘final piece’ type of dude.

Hinrich might be able to have a bounce back season in a new locale, so I’m very curious to see what happens.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on May 21, 2008 12:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He's a compelling and rich guy

Thanks PA, KP, Nate, BRoy, LMA, GO, 'Tell, Trout, JJ's, Buffet, Blake (not Blakey), Thrilla Hundred-dolla Billa, McBob (just 'cuz you're cool), Sergio (just 'cuz you've got flash), and Raef (ummm...just 'cuz)....and Dean Demo, Maurice, Monty (You rock Monty!), Bill Bayno (good luck with your new job), Bobby, Jay, and everyone else I'm forgetting (scouts, other front office people) who made the Return of Rip City possible, including the media (Mike B., Casey, Dave, Ben). And tominhawaii. Can't forget him.

by prezofdeath on May 21, 2008 1:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Take Rose

Dump Kirk, Hughes, and Noc.
Gooden, TT and Noah are a pretty solid rotation it would be nice to add in a 5 with a little more size and I think a combo of those 3 could get it done easily.

Sign Alex Gordon to a life time contract!!!

by eboston on May 21, 2008 12:37 PM CDT   0 recs

How effective is Hinrich off the pick and roll?

Needless to say, it can depend greatly on the big man setting the screen for the PG to turn the corner. Can Hinrich create offense off the pick and roll? The Blazers need a second ball handler who can run pick and rolls since that is where most of our offense comes from.

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on May 21, 2008 1:03 PM CDT   0 recs

Very well

This is his primary offensive game. He has range from 12 to 22 feet. What Hinrich really needs is a strong high post player like Aldridge and Oden. He knows how to use a solid screen. His one weak area is finishing once he’s deep inside the paint. The ways to help him here come from baseline cutters and perimeter rotation. Or, as I’m coming to know them, the strengths the Blazers already have that will be showcased through an improvement at the PG position.

by NBA Observer on May 21, 2008 1:16 PM CDT