just this thread in particular.

albatross contract. still less than the corpse’s deal.

something has to give in our backcourt, and methinks it will be Hinrich since we’re going to draft Rose, and still have to pay Hughes. Thabo and Gordon are god deals for this year.

How dare yee! What if Annthefan saw you, she’d be so disappointed.

If the Bulls take Rose, I doubt we’d need to give up Travis Outlaw to get Hinrich. That’s overkill. Jack and #13 pick (Westbrook, the Italian kid bound to disappoint, etc) is plenty for an overpaid guard coming off a purty disappointing season.

I was gonna link this thread to Blazers Edge, to show Blazer fans what Hinrich haters think he’s worth and to learn what familiarity-breeds-contempt type things we should worry about with Hinrich, but now I’m not sure if I should for your sake, as your treachery in trading Outlaw when we wouldn’t need to trade him knows no bounds. FOR SHAME.

Ok, you won’t be the only one who suggests Outlaw for Hinrich. I’ll link this anyways.

So, Kirk haters, let Blazer fans know why he sucks so much. Don’t worry about making us not want him; Kevin Pritchard the GM won’t see and even if ya turn some fans off to the idea it won’t hurt your chances of moving Hinrich.

Again, congrats on the #1 pick.

And Prez, you get home RIGHT THIS MINUTE, mister! Outlaw for Hinrich, I swear… you’re gonna get it when Ann gets home.

Mortimer

If they could find a way to dump Nocioni for someone who just doesn’t want to play, that works too. Either him or Hinrich HAVE to go.

But really they can’t decide that until seeing how it goes with the RFAs.

Rose
Gordon
Deng
Tyrus
Noah

bench: Hinrich (1st guard), Gooden (1st big), Thabo (Deng backup).

::drool::

I’m not fluent in that language, just trying to emphasize the lameness of the ‘hater’ label.

funny if i would have said that i would have been banned

getting stuck with Love, and now you want to trade for him?

where we might find your guy waiting.

Maybe, at least according to what I read, his defense isn’t the greatest, but he’d immediately be the second best athlete on the team (after Rose, obviously), and would give the Bulls a potentially unbeatable backcourt.

...but draftexpress.com has had him 2 or 3 all season. I’d guess that’s close enough to be “on the radar to be the first pick”.

It makes a hell of a lot more sense than any of the other Hinrich trades I’ve seen proposed on these post-lottery threads.

And no it doesn’t work out. It’s simply math (7?+4+1?)*125% = 15.

You know, you can totally look this stuff up yourself.

Sorry to butt into the thread again, but here’s where the Blazers are at:

Until Oden is for sure healthy, Joel Pryzbilla is almost as untradeable as Roy/LMA/Oden. He is our only other true center, and this past season came through big with Oden being out. Oden will likely have some foul troubles, and Pryzzle will be one of the best (if not the best) back up centers in the league for a good price. I seriously doubt Joel would be moved for anything short of a gotta-do-it blockbuster.

Rudy is almost untouchable as well… the Blazers front office have worked very hard to convince Rudy to come over to the NBA, and he is forgoing huge Euro contracts (5-8 million a year with no taxes) to come to the Blazers specifically, and to only make a million bucks. Pritchard and Paul Allen have travelled to Spain, met Rudy’s pa, all that stuff. They LOVE him. I seriously doubt he’d be moved, and if he was traded before the season starts, I doubt he’d come over from Spain. And, then Portland would have a hell of a time convincing good Euros to come over after they screwed Rudy.

Blake is gettable, but since he’s more of a pure PG I’m sure the Blazers would throw in Jack instead, but more to open up playing time for Rudy (the Blazers are very high on Rudy).

Annoycioni probably isn’t what they’re looking for (probably), because of Martell and Outlaw playing in the same position. At least I hope they ain’t looking for Annoycioni and his big dumb contract and big dumb face…

In all trades with the Blazers, they will likely want to keep the big cap space coming up at the end of this upcoming season. That’s been the big plan from the start. If they take a big contract for Raef’s expiring deal, it has to be a ‘final piece’ type of dude.

Hinrich might be able to have a bounce back season in a new locale, so I’m very curious to see what happens.

Mortimer

This is his primary offensive game. He has range from 12 to 22 feet. What Hinrich really needs is a strong high post player like Aldridge and Oden. He knows how to use a solid screen. His one weak area is finishing once he’s deep inside the paint. The ways to help him here come from baseline cutters and perimeter rotation. Or, as I’m coming to know them, the strengths the Blazers already have that will be showcased through an improvement at the PG position.

Then the Clippers say hello to a better version of Maggete in Al Thornton.

Brand is also a movie producer, and while this isn’t gonna be everything to him I’m sure, he might prefer to stay in LA. Plus, IF Kaman and Livingston are healthy, they should be a somewhat decent team.

The Bulls should be better, but maybe not enough to shake things up for Brand.

Is there any bad blood for the Bulls trading Brand years ago? Brand back on the Bulls, with Rose at PG, hoooooo wee that’s a strong drink of WINNING.

There are rumors out of Toronto that say Calderon could be swapped for Maggette and pieces, in a sign and trade deal. I think if something like that happens, Brand isn’t going anywhere. I don’t know if that is the best deal the Raptors could get for Calderon (for their sake I hope not), but they need an athletic wing scorer like that.

Mortimer

Count me out. Besides, why do we want to give this awesome, driving, slashing, PG a guy who he is going to repeatedly just throw the ball to? At least w/ Gooden (who really isn’t THAT much worse than Brand), there’s no feeling of obligation to play him if the game isn’t calling for it.

Two years ago I always felt, that if we (Bulls) drafted Roy that together with Kirk, they would be a great backcourt. It just seems that these two players styles compliment one another.

I think Kirk has good potential, and with the right push and development you will see the player he was envisioned to be.

From the Bulls point of view I’m not sure who would be better playing with Rose? Ben or Kirk? I often times think neither! because of the height issue.

So actually Blazer fans would like to have Rose and Roy in their backcourt, and likewise Chicago would also prefer that combo, yet since this won’t happen… You guys know that the second best option is Roy and Kirk playing together for the Blazers.

Pat Riley?

chooses Rose or Beasley does not mean Kirk will be leaving. I’m sure he will consider offers for all players on this team.

then dump Noc on the Raptors for Rasho (assuming the pot will have to be sweetened, give them Thabo and take back Anthony Parker. And by all means if they need Aaron Gray to fit in Rasho’s old clothes…)

Rose/Blake
Gordon/Parker
Deng
Thomas/Gooden
Noah/Rasho

(+lots of expiring money)

Gordon’s problems are 1)he’s small and will get abused by SG’s all over the league. That’s something he can’t help, and the Bulls have made up for it by being an overall strong defensive team, and since they’ve been a top 3 defensive team with him playing a major role, it’s not a concern to me (plus Thabo’s mere presence scares away opponents. His other problem is his lack of handles. Well, if we draft Derrick Rose, BG will be getting the ball at the best positions for him to score. BG is a flawed player, but he is very effective, and his negatives can be masked by playing Thabo/Kirk at the 2 (next year, assuming Pax picks Rose).

Than agonize over Chris “he’s a game manager” Duhon.

Larry Hughes’ has suckered enough people into believing he’s still the same player he was in 2005, we are not falling into that trap. Hughes doesn’t score in bunches, he’s like the anti-BG. Tons of shots, but not much to show for it.

for Ben Wallace, ...enough said!!

Considering Hughes takes waaay more shots to get those ppg. Stupid shots more often than not. Hinrich at least gives you the chance he’d pass to a better shooter. Hughes would have already shot it himself with 17 left on the clock.

oops, posted by accident…

it gets Hinrich’s contract off the books, gives us flexibility to make another move with 4 servicable forwards (Gooden, Haslem, Noah, Thomas), and gets another draft pick.

Guess those anger management classes aren’t working so well.

I know this is the “I don’t like Hinrich” thread, but wow. You should know by now that it’s a waste of time using salaries to compare talent…if that was the case people like Jerome James should’ve been one of the best players in the league.

Sorry a Fire Insider. Don’t want that on a family friendly blog.

for some reason firefox keeps crashing when i try to reply to your other comment “the band AFI =...” but anyways as you see above i did get the band reference.

but gotta say i agree with you. no offense blazer fans, but don’t police our blog.

The one guy with quite an adept post game. Sure, he’s lazy, fat, and was a waste of space…but the dude could score.

I figured that’d be the case. Now we get to see how Paxson handles a potential trade when he’s the pursued rather than the pursuer.

of Gordon, Deng, Tyrus and Noah, two of those guys came into the season with their own agendas didn’t put team goals at the top of the list, and two were were guys feuding with coaches about their roles. Hinrich certainly didn’t distinguish himself last year, but I’m not sure even MJ could have gotten all of those guys on the same page. Hinrich certainly did a fine job of “leading” the previous three years when it seemed like everybody’s number one goal was making the playoffs.