RogersPark Kris made the Duhon comment.

This debate will continue until you hear that ESPN report by Marc Stein that reads “Report : The Bulls to select Rose with number 1 overall pick”

I’m just still stoked that the Bulls are finally the talk of the NBA again and all of a sudden, we’re the young darlings of the NBA. Sorry Portland.

I was also kinda scared that the Bulls were going to fall off the national TV map after this miserable season but this pretty much assures us that the Bulls will once again be fun to watch. No more last second TV scratches, I hope.

I have a feeling we won’t know anything about the Bulls consideration until Pax sees what he can get for Hinrich, Tyrus or Gooden

We are talking about the kid that loves Sponge Bob Square Pants compared to the kid that got a gummy bear tummy ache at the final 4.

And Riley has already suggested he might propose some sort of trade for swapping 1 and 2, which, depending on what he offers, might be worth considering.

by saying that if the Bulls get an uptempo offense coach rather than a grind it out halfcourt coach, he’d pick Rose.

Wade seems a lil pissed right now at not winning the lottery. No one “deserves” to win the lottery… (except for boston last year, i mean, cmon, no.5?) at least the heat got someone to replace Shaq or Haslem and can do it big. dont cry.. not again..

I won’t have a firm opinion on Rose versus Beasley until at least the official measurements come out and I can take a 2nd look at them. But, I’m leaning Rose too.

and if we didn’t muff it, we got a high pick when there was no great (sometimes even good) talent available.

throw in a freak accident that left us without a potentially very good point guard and this is the first time that we really make up for those lean years.

and what makes it that much sweeter is that the last few years (deng gordon tyrus noah) we gathered some very decent players to surround this pick

suddenly our “supporting cast” looks like a damn fine supporting cast.

Just got here and I’ve got to say how ecstatic I am about this crazy good fortune. I think people will refer to this the same way they refer to the Knicks’ Ewing draft – as a secret NBA conspiracy to get a top flight player to a leading franchise. I’m too overwhelmed to make a thoughtful prediction, but if Miami is determined to get Beasley, I say we pull the ole “we take beasley at 1, you take rose at 2, we swap and owe less money.” A simple move but one that saves us money. Now, to whom do we trade Kirk Hinrich? Rose penetrating and passing to a cutting Deng or Thomas makes me want to fast-forward the summer! Go Bulls! I’m so happy right now!!!

would be like taking Brand, a real good choice and a player you’d cry for when they stupidly trade him.

But you have to take the player that has the potential to be transcendent. And that’s Rose.

Why help the Heat? They are already gonna improve greatly with healthy Wade, Marion, and Beasley. Let them have Rose, and they pass you by like you’re standing still.

...Matt did a great job summing up approximately where I stand on the issue at this very moment in time. (I may change my mind in a couple of hours).

What scares me off from Beasley is the complete lack of defensive intensity. I see this trait as being part of a player’s DNA – either you care about playing defense or you don’t, and he “don’t”. The other issue is that Beasley will certainly come in and be a dominating offensive player, and therefore develop a sense of entitlement that will make it less likely that he ever provides proper effort on defense. I think Amare Stoudamire is a good comparable, and while Stoudamire is a great player, I’d rather have…

...a two-way point guard with dominating ability on both ends. The risk with Rose is if his perimeter shot never improves, but at his age and with the improvement he showed during the year, I’m not overly worried about this. And while it was only one year of college, I love that he played for Calipari and on a team that played excellent team defense. I have a strong degree of confidence that he will fulfill his substantial potential on the defensive end of the court.

This is a scary choice; Beasley is a sure thing, while Rose carries some development risk. But players who are selfish on offense and who possess no defensive intensity give me the heebie-jeebies, so I choose Rose. I think. :)

Two more points that have been lumbering in my mind the last couple of hours:

(1) Drafing Rose pushes our window back a year or two; it will be worth it, but our personnel decisions have to keep this in mind, as Rose will need two years to reach a development stage where he can lead a team deep into the playoffs.

(2) There is work to be done…we have to turn some of our backcourt excess into something of value…a team of Rose/Hinrich or Gordon/Sefolosha in the backcourt, Deng/Nocioni at SF, and Thomas/Gooden/Noah does not strike me as a championship-level squad, unless Thomas develops in the most optimistic fashion possible (if that happens, then it’s ON!).

But holy crap…what a night!

...I’m not complaining, simply pointing out that our resources should be focused on maximizing the team’s ability to win 2-6 years from now rather than right away.

Trust me, NOBODY is more excited to see us upgrade from Hinrich to Rose as I am!

In the deep dark heart of the Bulls’ post-Jordan misery they traded practically their whole team for Jalen Rose. The Bulls proceeded to beat three absolutely shitty teams for their first three game winning streak post-Jordan. My friends and I reminisced about this as we got smashed celebrating the tonight’s preposterous luck. We remembered how we started talking title. GOD were we fucking stupid. Tonight felt like floating in space. I love the fucking NBA, and fucking sports.

Both Beasley and Rose are immediate upgrades.

Miami should be interesting to watch with D-Wade/Whoever Chicago doesn’t pick.

Congratulations on Lady Lottery luck. Have fun arguing over who to take and who to trade afterwards!

Mortimer

Getting D’Antoni and winning the lottery makes Paxson the GM of the year somewhere down the line and pretty much a genius all over again.

Well, he got the lucky part right. If he has any smarts at all, he’ll make the rest work.

And I’m pretty sure we’re putting way too much of our hopes with this team into one young man.

me like all of you had to go through this whole season watching the young full of potential bulls struggle. i hated paxson. i hated every opposing broadcast network. i hated the nba. it felt like the nba was conspiring against us. NOW it’s like all that was just a dream. This is beautiful. I know maybe with a rookie starter it will push our champion ship contending a few years back but so what. I’m lookin forward to see:
1.D. ROSE PG
2.B. GORDON SG
3.L. DENG SF
4.T. THOMAS – D. GOODEN PF
5.J. NOAH – A. GRAY C
this lineup- watching all these young guys grow will make all these past shitty years worth it. i even think this is gunna fire up loul and b. gordon in to stayin with the team. if we do it right fuck a title shot, i want a DYNASTY.
D. ROSE = hometown HERO ala mighty mouse “HERE I COME TO SAVE THE DAY”

but after reading all these posts, in gonna go with rose. he certianly was exciting to see in the final four. but i still say him and kirk make a better backcourt than gordon. i see that rose would have the same problem as kirk by gaurding the bigger guys wen playin with gordon. i think thats too much to put on an up and coming rookie. i would have loved seeing miami drop in the draft, at least new york didnt get too high a pick. i bet dantoni wishes he had waited to pick a team now. and can we send someone people know to the draft, is it possibly to send benny the bull? man im exicted.

Matt, “knee-jerkedly” is right up there with “lickety-splitly” ( a la Tom Waits in “Old 55”) as one of the great grammatical constructs of our time. As for the Bulls choice, I’m leaning low-postedly.

Anyone worried about how playing in his hometown might affect Rose? I don’t know too much about his background. Is this something he can handle with a good family support structure (akin to LBJ in Cleveland) or does he end up with a thousand hangers-on? Any insight?

they draft has a lot to do with who they hire as the new coach.

Corbin’s had a front row seat watching Jerry Sloan create an offense around Deron Williams. Does that experience transfer to Rose and the Bulls?

Or do we talk to Calipari about the job? Calipari’s already been instrumental in molding the dribble drive motion offense to perfectly suit Rose.

which Thibodeau has now seen up close for the past season. Even though he’s known as a defensive coach, would he install Rose’s familiar offense if he got the Bulls job?

Rose is listed as 6’4 right now. Wouldn’t you think that Rose still has time to even grow another inch or two?

To anyone who hates Paxson for passing on Brandon Roy for Tyrus Thomas, this is his chance to not make that mistake again.

To me, I still don’t see that drafting Tyrus was a mistake but to everyone that does . . .

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Jamie (Utica, NY): David, for once I actually agree with Jay Mariotti and believe its a no brainer that the Bulls take Derrick Rose. He could be the next Chris Paul, he’s a leader and is a huge upgrade over Kirk Hinrich. Not to mention he’s from Chi-town. Who would you take? And can the Bulls deal Hinrich if they take Rose?

David Thorpe: (12:35 PM ET ) As I told some people earlier, statistically speaking, power forward was the Bulls best position last year. PG was their worst. You do the math.

after the number 1.8 is forgotten by most bulls fans and replaced with 1.7

It’s over to the Hinrich trade thread with all my ideas.

this happened in something closer to a Lebron/Oden year than a Bargnani/Bogut year. This kind of leap will likely never happen again for the Bulls, so I would have been pissed if it did when those were the options.

Would Riley take one of our guards and one forward or more for Marion (whose contract status is uncertain) and the #2 pick? Riley then has rebuilt his team over-night and give us both Rose and Beasley to build a championship team around. I would work with Riley to see who he wants. The Bulls players have faired well against the Heat the last two years.

P.S. – I cannot get the smile off my face.

Im going to pissed off if they do pick Beasley and trade Tyrus…Not his fault that our mediocre coaches mishandled playing time for our young players…

If we do get rose…We will have more trading Chips…WTF are you going to trade tyrus for? how much value does he still have left f after this disastrous season….Theres plenty of teams looking for a PG….Get rose and trade kirk while u still can…after 5 yrs of him…we all should know it wont work out..

Pax said they’re online gonna focus on Beasley and Rose

Enough with the Love comments now

of course he is. the kid is a stud. would fit nicely in the current bulls game plan. That’s exactly way Paxson should look the other way and choose Rose. I’m not one for fairy tales and as far as destiny goes…that’s what girlfriends believe in. I feel it in my bones, that this lucky turn, is an opportunity to break from the normal procedure of playing it safe and become the wild! Become that beast of a team the rest of the league will take notice! Rose can become that great finisher the bulls desperately lack. No more dribble dribble dribble dribble…dribble dribble dribble Eeeeeerrr! game over.

Given how most Bulls fans are pushing for Rose (for all of the aforementioned reasons), if Paxson ended up taking Beasley aren’t we running the risk of pushing Beasley away. Imagine Beasley, known for shaky character and work ethic, arriving in Chicago to a disappointed fan base. Doesn’t that prospect scare anybody else? It’d go one of two ways; either it would really piss him off and he’d play with a chip on his shoulder to prove us all wrong (a la Arenas for being passed over), or he’d become disillusioned and not give a crap and we’d watch him fail as Rose become a star somewhere else.

Also, if we took Rose and his career didn’t pan out to what we hope (All star, top 3 PG) and Beasley became a star elsewhere, that would be much easier to swallow than taking Beasley and having Rose become a star elsewhere. Also, doesn’t Rose have a much lower risk factor? I feel like we could all see Rose as at least a 15 and 7 guy, with the intangibles, and Beasley could be out of the league in 5 years with off court issues.

Well, I’ve heard from an “inside source” that Pax has discussed a trade of the pick. Bulls #1, Hughes, Noc, for O’Neal, Daniels, and Indiana’s #1, plus whatever is needed to make the numbers work. The Bulls brass thinks we are too young. Its only step one in a two step plan. Its a short term move for a long term gain. Its giving up something for another something. And I’m totally kidding. If the Bulls don’t draft Rose, I will be stunned, stunned, disappointed, disillusioned, and totally stunned. Ha HA—Rose baby!!! Two days ago I was wondering if Kevin Love could possibly work out. Celebrate my brothers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rose won in the tourny- Beasly didn’t. Rose made his teammates better, Beasly is like melo, he doesn’t. He’s an undersized PF or a big SF, and will be a great rebounder too. But seriously, Tyrus is developing, and is seriously athletic as well, he’s not a prolific scorer by any means, but what the Bulls need is a recommitment to winning, and a good PG. Another me first scorer really doesn’t help us at all- we remember Michael and Scottie- we’ve tasted the real thing- we don’t want a Mavs/Suns/Nuggets thing where they win lots of games that don’t matter, and can’t win it all because the players don’t care that much, and finally starting talking about D in game 2 of the 2nd round.

Seriously, if I were Thabo, I would practice my 3 ball, and my dives to the hole. Cuz with the 2 of them out there playing D, we’ve got an awesome D backcourt.