Bulls win lottery, receive #1 pick
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 7:49 PM CDT
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How's this for NBA-karma what-have-yous that I always thought were quite lame (but will share anyway):
I spaced and missed the live lottery drawing.
Luckily I realized it at 7:30. So I was able to flip to ESPNNews, who showed the full replay of the final 3 envelopes. I couldn't believe it was Steve Shanwald standing there, thinking of other possible exec-types who may look like him...not truly believing it until they showed the card with the Bulls logo.
How great is this? Usually the Bulls only win the lottery when there's no clear-cut choices. This time it's obviously between two players (I'd say one, Rose, but we have plenty of time to discuss that, now don't we?). Less thinking for Pax, and for us.
Celebrate and high-five. The only downer is that I doubt I'll be getting my partial-season ticket plan back...
And I'll say it again: Holy crap!
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would of prefered number 2
because now theyre left with a choice, they mess up n now paxon will be blamed.
hoping for rose though
by mrm3x1can on May 20, 2008 7:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha
i can’t lie – the same thought crossed my mind.
by swede2287 on May 20, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey swede 2287 why was are thread banned
by Cherishfaith on May 20, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even Pax couldn't screw this one up.
My prayers have been answered. I’m going to have to go back to Mass Sunday and light a candle.
The Bulls finally have a TRUE POINT GUARD. So who do they keep to go along with him?
Beasly is a beast, but potential character issues aren’t worth the risk.
I would not trade this pick. Great point guards don’t come along very often. Unless the Lakers are willing to part with Koby, forget about it. D’Antoni must be kicking himself right now. He should have waited until after the draft. There should be a glut of applicants for the Bull’s coaching job after this. Maybe even Callipari.
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard
by Tyrusmancrush on May 20, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure Kolby Karl is a big enough haul
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would you reconsider if they threw in his dad too?
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard
by Tyrusmancrush on May 20, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what happen to the thread i put up, why was it 404 banned
by Cherishfaith on May 20, 2008 7:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably so we don't have 12 threads about winning
My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!
by wjb1492 on May 20, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Matt.
Was the deadline for your plan May 19?
If so, I bet you can still get on Clicktix and pay the invoice.
Cause, uh, err, it looks lke I can for my season tix. LOL.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on May 20, 2008 7:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i want rose but i hope we do not get him because i want to see rose shine, we all no nobody shines on the bulls, and i especially do not want him coming off the bench for a kirk hinrich,
by Cherishfaith on May 20, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
P.S. Ford thinks we take Beasley.
Screw that.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on May 20, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Why shouldnt we take Beasley over Rose???
Hinrich (hopefully) will be able to be a 16 and 7 guy again, plus hes a lot more stable (and better) than Tyrus or Gooden right now.
by jrapps1323 on May 20, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why not both?
Hinrich is all in.
by NBA Observer on May 20, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
F HINRICH
Super Bowl XLI MVP Rex Grossman
Chicago Bulls Captain and Starting Point Guard Kirk Hinrich...
Same Person
by 234L on May 20, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No vulgarity version:
Sam Smith used to go on and on about how Hinrich was the most sought-after Bull in trade proposals. Let’s package him and someone, anyone, and get a scoring big to pair with DERRICK ROSE, oh man, I can’t believe it…
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on May 20, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt warned me for this comment
hahaha
Super Bowl XLI MVP Rex Grossman
Chicago Bulls Captain and Starting Point Guard Kirk Hinrich...
Same Person
by 234L on May 20, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hinrich is who we thought he was
The guy is going on 28 and has been in the league long enough. What you see is what you get, he’s hit his ceiling. Sure, he can become a more efficient player, but in terms of blossoming talent, well, the bloom is off the Rose for Krik Hinrich. Now, I’m sure some other team would love to have PG whose strength is the ability to defend their opponent’s 2 guards, so hopefully the Bulls can package Hinrich because there is no longer any need to have him on this team.
Rose has the ability to make others around him better. I don’t know if you can say that about Derrick Coleman…I mean Mike Beasley.
by messwiththebull on May 20, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
beasley will be affective right away, but it would be nice to have another chi-town native do well, unlick eddy curry who let us down
by Cherishfaith on May 20, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Take Rose
And put a clause in his contract that he’ll be traded immediately if he buys a motorcycle. :)
by Rodmaniac on May 20, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i still love to ponder what would have happended if jay williams wouldnt have got injured
by mrm3x1can on May 20, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just thinking the
same thing.
we finally get a do over, but NOW we got a bunch of young top picks to go with it.
by gman2849 on May 20, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rose and motorcycles
LOL. With the Bulls history of bad luck picks recently, I say put in a clause saying he is not even allowed to buy a fast car.
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard
by Tyrusmancrush on May 20, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys have no idea
TRIPPING OUT!!!! ROSE BABY!!!!!
by Option27 on May 20, 2008 7:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
tru i want rose but will he start over kirk, he should, but will he
by Cherishfaith on May 20, 2008 7:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe pressure from another pg will excel his game
by mrm3x1can on May 20, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry
Paxson will hire a hard-nosed, disciplinarian coach that will bench Rose until he “earns” his spot… which will take three years.
by Rodmaniac on May 20, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly thats y i dont want rose because the bulls will hate on him and by the time he gets good or an all star he will be on another team, we have not had an all-star since MIKE
by Cherishfaith on May 20, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're sullying my Cheerios
but god damnit you’re right.
New coach please.
by NBA Observer on May 20, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
for 1 night can we all stifle the pessimism?
we just won the lottery. we’ll take derick rose. we’re gonna be awesome. today is a good day to be a bulls fan.
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on May 20, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm kidding
Rose won’t ride the pine for three years, but seriously, I DID hear on ESPN 1000 that Paxson was looking for a coach that was a hard-nosed disciplinarian… which made me vomit. If Pax hires a disciplinarian, his next move needs to be trading Tyrus Thomas before his value plummets. I don’t see Tyrus cooperating with another disciplinarian.
by Rodmaniac on May 20, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
was thinking, how bought get beasly n then trade for jose calderon
by mrm3x1can on May 20, 2008 8:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That is
the dumbest idea in the history of blogabull
by YaoPau on May 20, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ben Wallace for Amare Stoudemire
begs to differ
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a dream, right?
No way they pass up on Rose! Think about how amazing he’ll turn players like Tyrus and Thabo and Deng!
Chris Paul proves what an amazing PG could do for bigs with no offensive game. We dont need a PF cause he’ll turn Tyrus into a beast.
D’Antoni prolly hates himself now
by Option27 on May 20, 2008 8:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Rose is not Chris Paul.
He’s not even Deron Williams. Rose needs to work on his jump shot to be nearly as effective as those players. He had a lot of help at Memphis.
by kingj41 on May 20, 2008 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paul didn't have a jump shot when he got in
I remember very well
by Option27 on May 20, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was a freshman
and he was the leader of that team. He could very well develop into a cross between CP3 and Deron (Bigger, More Physical than CP3 and Quicker, Better defender than Deron)
by swede2287 on May 20, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rose is more developed
than CP3 and Deron were at his age.
by swede2287 on May 20, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
And you know the best part . . . Doesn’t Pax love proven winners?
Ummm, I think Rose just proved he can win in college. Pax’s ultimate judgement meter
by Option27 on May 20, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fun Fact!
Rose has made the championship game every level he’s played at since elementary school.
by CrashDavis on May 20, 2008 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember
Deron and Paul have been in the league 3 years. No one pegged them to be as great as they are now and look how they turned out. I doubt anyone is saying that Rose IS Paul/Deron, they just see how much upside he has and even as a rookie, he’d be an upgrade over Kirk. (Sorry Sue)
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by Goostafer on May 20, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deron, NO
Paul yes. The kid can score whenever he wants. I’m the biggest UNC fan and I absolutely hated Chris Paul. Scouts knew Paul would pan out. And obviously Utah felt the same about Deron. He did shine in his last year. I’m not saying Rose isn’t a great option, he just has to work hard.
by kingj41 on May 20, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My point was
that they are more experienced now than they were when they came in the league. And I really doubt anyone said Paul and Deron would be the top 2 PGs in the entire NBA by their 3rd year. Obviously they were considered good PGs coming in, but not as great as they are now and if so, then not this soon.
Either way, Rose would be a great Pick.
Blogabull... So Fresh and so Clean Clean!
by Goostafer on May 20, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not only is Rose the next great PG (maybe a Deron or Kidd style
more than Paul), but the Bulls should have a very Hornets-like team, which is not bad at all.
Noah is just like Tyson, and should get about 3 or 4 alley oops per game. Deng’s shot selection and percentages are just like David West’s (as someone pointed out on here). Of course, we’ll need Thabo to grow into being either a Mo Peterson or Bonzi Wells type…
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on May 20, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't forget what conference the bulls are in. they could be really good, really quick.
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on May 20, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
The Bulls, should they select Rose, would become the poor man’s New Orleans Hornets, which is fine because the East is the poor man’s conference. Noah is Tyson (sigh), Gooden can be West, Rose obviously Paul, Tyrus can challenge Tyson for the league lead in alley oop dunks, Thabo can man the 2 with BG coming off the bench in his best suited Pargo role. He’s obviously much better than Pargo, but I don’t want Rose to have to guard 2 guards because we have a little boy playing the 2 with him.
by messwiththebull on May 20, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well said
BG off the bench.
hinbrick and noc OUT
by Orlando Woolridge on May 20, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd keep Noce
He’s the perfect roll player, and we need a guy to take charges, and be the crazy man.
by iBurkey on May 20, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ditch all bagage
now that we have the #1 pick, his contract MUST be moved
by Orlando Woolridge on May 20, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh its just that we still need role player shooters.
It will help our kids development if they have a hustler to play minutes with. And who makes shots when given an opportunity
by iBurkey on May 20, 2008 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i actually love Chapu
but his contract is a huge albatross.
by Orlando Woolridge on May 20, 2008 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not if we trade Kirk, Deng, Gordon
ha ha.
by iBurkey on May 20, 2008 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
many "role-playing veteran shooters"
can be had for half the price of Chapu.
by Orlando Woolridge on May 20, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Name me one other lottery pick Rose played with on that team.
1st rounders, sure, but even D Will played with three other NBA players.
by messwiththebull on May 20, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had a hell of a lot more than Beasley
My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!
by wjb1492 on May 20, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does that have to do with anything
when we’re comparing PGs in Rose, D Will, and Paul? The answer is nothing.
by messwiththebull on May 20, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ROSE BABY!!!!!!!!
Then trade for a star big man – possibly let go of players like Hinrich, Gordon, Tyrus.
I LOVE THE NBA!!!
by swede2287 on May 20, 2008 8:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i doubt if kirk gets any better he started out getting better his first 4 seasons, but fell completely off this season, trade him then i would be more happy with rose
by Cherishfaith on May 20, 2008 8:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i agree he is not a true pg, but he is and has been listed as a pg, whether true or not, and he is definitly not a sg, averaging 11 points
by Cherishfaith on May 20, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and kirk
just bought a new house
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
by tyrus4prez on May 20, 2008 8:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He hasn't been
traded yet. Untiil Pax says he is he’s still a Bull. There’s no guarantee Pax takes Rose.
by sue369 on May 20, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
say goodbye to kirk, sue. i hope you'd rather have a good bulls team than a hinrich-led bulls team.
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on May 20, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kirk not being a Bull
doesn’t mean Sue (Or Pic or myself for that matter) has to say goodbye, you realize.
My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!
by wjb1492 on May 20, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not if you ask Sue
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clarification:
We don’t have to say goodbye to Kirk – and it will be nice to already have some friends at the new team, if it comes to that.
My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!
by wjb1492 on May 20, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's right "IF".
These guys may be sadly disappointed when he’s still in a Bulls uniform.
by sue369 on May 20, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually wouldn't care
As long as he doesn’t steal minutes from a #1 overall pick.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kirk will be gone
He’s too good to come off the bench, and he won’t play in front of Rose. Bulls should be able to get someone very good for him.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on May 20, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did just come off an abysmal season
It might be slim pickings considering teams desperate for a PG, might not have what we want in return.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny thing
is we don’t have a say in who plays and how long they play.
by sue369 on May 20, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's the only
reason I followed the Bulls. If he gets traded I won’t be here.
by sue369 on May 20, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn that's cold
Does Kirk’s wife know about you?
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
She knows Sue's the one who keeps calling and hanging up in the middle of the night
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
by snley on May 20, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry to disappoint
you but it’s not like that. He’s an Iowa kid. I follow Nick Collison too.
by sue369 on May 20, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm an Iowan too, but my attachment to the player is gone once they leave
the state or the U of I
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
by snley on May 20, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully you don't mean
that you “follow” him, right? ‘Cuz that would be stalker-like.
I would keep track of Hinrich at his new team and I would sincerely wish that he does very well.
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on May 20, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course I don't
mean stalk him. I’m a fan and I will follow him and whatever team he is playing on.
by sue369 on May 20, 2008 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon Sue, you gotta feel confident he'll stick around.
At least one more year.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Darn. There I go again being taken seriously...
Here are the missing emoticons: :P :) :^/
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on May 20, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, it's been real...
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on May 20, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
then get the hell outta here!
cee ya Hinbrick
by Orlando Woolridge on May 20, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Parting is such bittersweet sorrow.
See ya, Sue.
by messwiththebull on May 20, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha
Nice
"Glen Davis??? wow!! We had Glen Davis, his name is Michael Sweetney" - tyrus4prez
by NittanyBull on May 20, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better than a slow PG who dribbles in circles, yes.
by iBurkey on May 20, 2008 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, he's like a fish who had one eye gouged out
except he’s a human and dribbles around in circles, and ALWAYS pulls up at the free throw line in transition.
by Orlando Woolridge on May 20, 2008 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kirk Takes Duhons job
And does it better? Kirk has showed he is the kind of player who doesnt mind if he is coming off the bench or starting. I mean boylan pulled him alot. He can do duhons job alot better, a guy who can come off the bench and play either guard spot, and can defend etiher position. Wouldnt you want that in a sixth man?
I do agree rose will be the upgrade in the pg spot, and i of course fear the trade of hinrich coming, but then it comes down to what will you get with kirk in a trade and possible scenerios. I wouldnt mind having kirk play the 6th man much like Manu does for San Antonio…it sucks being a bulls fan and a hinrich fan….
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.
by piccolomair on May 20, 2008 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manu is a MUCH better player than Kirk.
Yikes. You just can’t be slow and less than 6’3” and be an impact player.
by iBurkey on May 20, 2008 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry dont mean to compare him directly
IN terms of abilities yes manu kill kirk, i was saying more of a role similar to manus, does this make more sense, i know manu is better then kirk, i was talking about being as effective and imperetive to the team the way manu is to the spurs.
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.
by piccolomair on May 20, 2008 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Getting Rose is
not a slam dunk. Who the Bulls choose will likely depend on the coach they hire and his style of play. The new coach may prefer they draft Beasley.
If they do choose Rose the chances of them trading both Kirk and Hughes are slim. If they trade Kirk and since Hughes and BG are pretty much the same player except Hughes is 6” taller and plays some what better defense you could be looking at a starting back court of Rose and Hughes.
by sue369 on May 21, 2008 7:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH and I'm still in shock
shock as in heaven
by swede2287 on May 20, 2008 8:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lineup
Hopefully we trade for another big time player, but…
Hinrich
Gordon
Deng
Beasley
Noah
by jrapps1323 on May 20, 2008 8:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm really regretting that cigar last night
Because tonight is the perfect night for a celebratory cigar. I’m probably the giddiest person in Florida right now.
Rose would probably be my preferred pick but I’m not sure I’d cry over Beasley.
Lil' Jon, he always tells the truth.
by upther on May 20, 2008 8:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am in Florida also
my brother told me to shut up lol
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls
BELIEVE in 08!
by SRQman on May 20, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
u probably stuffed that cigar with something celtic green
by Cherishfaith on May 20, 2008 8:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeehaww
Derrick Rose here we come. Him and BG are gonna be dynamite.
by wrigleyrocker12 on May 20, 2008 8:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
rose is 6-4 Bg is excellent but he is 6-2 maybe 6-1 we shuld trade him and get a big man that can score, that backcourt is too small
by Cherishfaith on May 20, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im happy with
Rose
Hinrich/BG
Deng
Tyrus
Noah
by lampnasty on May 20, 2008 8:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Trade for a star big
and we’re set.
by swede2287 on May 20, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lineup
Rose
Hinrich/BG
Deng
Tyrus/Gooden
Noah
by gman2849 on May 20, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
THat'd be a playoff team for sure.
But Rose won’t start this year.
My guess: they re-sign Deng to a long-term deal, BG signs the QO for one more year. Hinrich and Gordon start.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
#1 overall draft picks start.
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on May 20, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Typically cuz they're on shitty teams.
Did Bargnani start all year? He didn’t this year.
This is the Bulls. He won’t start this year—well, at least not out of training camp.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, Kirk is a captain
How many team captains get demoted to the bench?
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
does traded= demotion? because... he gone!
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on May 20, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even if he's not gone,
Rose is gonna destroy his fragile sense of self worth in practice DAILY.
Kirk, it’s been a good ride, but you had a lot of chances this season to turn the corner and you never shook off your horrible start. Best of luck to ya. Godspeed.
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on May 20, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly. thanks for the memories... now get the fuck out.
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on May 20, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rose is gonna do whatever he wants
with Hinrich in practice every single day.
by swede2287 on May 20, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
duhon was captain too
When he came off the bench so its not out of the question to be a captain and come off the bench.
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.
by piccolomair on May 20, 2008 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Captain Kangaroo, maybe.
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on May 20, 2008 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they also start because they are the best player at their position on their team. i think rose will fit that description.
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on May 20, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think Anfernee on the Magic.
Scott Skiles was the starter until Anfernee’s 2nd season, I think.
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on May 20, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is that right? can we get a fact check?
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on May 20, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is correct
Penny was drafted in 1993, Skiles played one year for the Magic then left.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know who the starter was
but penny played 36 mpg and skiles played 28 mpg in Penny’s rookie year.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on May 20, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay, so he was starter without the title. same difference.
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on May 20, 2008 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best part is
We got trade value up the yin yang now!
by Option27 on May 20, 2008 8:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
re trade value
Couldn’t agree more. Let’s package 3 of them for one stud.
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard
by Tyrusmancrush on May 20, 2008 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A stud like d-wade a chi-town native
by Cherishfaith on May 20, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm now down to get rid of
Anyone but 1st pick, Deng, Tyrus and Noah
Everyone else you can have just give us a good player
by Option27 on May 20, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, true
we could get our hands on something real nice. Rose is going to make our subpar players (Tyrus, Thabo) so much better.
by swede2287 on May 20, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just said the same thing to a friend. i'll make a team out of those 4 and 8 jokers.
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on May 20, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
8 Jim Boylans?
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on May 20, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you not familiar with the 1 boylan = 5 jokers conversion rate? because it sounds like you're not.
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on May 20, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not only that, but just like all the other great PG's,
he’ll attract star big men to want to come play on the Bulls. Unlike, say, a Chris Duhon…
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on May 20, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone see D'Antoni's face by the way?
was priceless
by lampnasty on May 20, 2008 8:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
could you make it a fanshot?
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on May 20, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
D'Antoni... and Pat Riley
are probably both going “no… f*ing… way…”
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on May 20, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
D Wade is thinking
Wade/Rose in 2010 sounds mighty nice!
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Wade
wasn’t that mad with #2. Wade & Rose or Wade & Beastley?... Win Win situation for the HEAT.
Blogabull... So Fresh and so Clean Clean!
by Goostafer on May 20, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Screw the Heat
Wade is coming home, an all Chicago backcourt.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wade's gone on record as saying he wanted Rose.
Anyone else see this story somewhere on the internets?
He was on the phone with someone and they kept naming top picks and Wade kept saying, “No, not him… guess again… No, not him… not him either…” and eventually Wade said “He’s still playing” in the NCAA tournament. Anyone?
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on May 20, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And actually, beyond just D'Antoni and Riley,
you know there are some interesting reactions from current Bulls.
Somewhere Joakim Noah has to be restrained from pumping his fists and jumping up and down (like what if he was in a hospital or in an airport or something?).
Somewhere Ben Gordon is actually showing some emotion, any emotion.
Somewhere Thabo is thinking to himself “Maybe I should start practicing 10,000 jumpers a day…”
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on May 20, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kirk is probably
Saying ditto to what thabo said, and buying and reading up on all the pg books he can get his hands on….If he is i will be uber happy….
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.
by piccolomair on May 20, 2008 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either that, or he's on google earth
looking at suburban homes outside of Oklahoma City right about now.
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on May 20, 2008 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If its okay with you
IM gonna stick to my version of the story until after the draft…..Sue…if you read this, then you should stick to my version of the story too
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.
by piccolomair on May 20, 2008 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And meanwhile,
Tyrus Thomas is starting to think seriously about trying hard next season. He’s looking at himself in the mirror wondering what life would be like if he actually gave a sh*t.
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on May 20, 2008 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless it is for LeBron, Paxson should NOT trade thus pick.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on May 20, 2008 8:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
would you trade it for wade and haslem
by Cherishfaith on May 20, 2008 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
id trade it
for paxson’s daughter.. thats probably whos on paxons mind to draft at this moment..
Tyrus Thomas
-"Million dollar talent, ten cent head."
by bulls*hit on May 20, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
honestly
not with Wade’s injury history, no.
Keep in mind how cheap these picks play for over the next 4 years…
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, but who would you pick matt, beasley or rose, i want to see rose start but im not sure he would with kirk being there and the 9sumthin million he makes, you gotta admit beasely is a way better scorer then goodan would be and they are both 6-10
by Cherishfaith on May 20, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd swap picks with the heat
if the bulls got Wade and the heat took Larry Hughes and somebody else like Tyrus or Noah. Bulls would start Hinrich, Wade, Deng, Beasley (assuming Heat take Rose), and Gooden or Noah. At that point Gray might even be a viable option with the other four… ;-)
2008 or bust.
by bullshooter on May 20, 2008 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt Wade (or LeBron) would ever ever be available.
But in a hypothetical world, I would worry about Wade’s penchant for injury.
I do worry that Pax might trade for Melo.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on May 20, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he wont trade for mello because just like lebron they have to play with the headband and we no how paxston feels about the headband, its a shame he would pass up on a mello or lebron just because he has that headband rule
by Cherishfaith on May 20, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, now you're just trying to set records
for misspellings.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Richard Jefferson
I hear he wants out, he can be a good player to have along side a rose, or maybe along side a beasly? what thinks you?
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.
by piccolomair on May 20, 2008 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we already have Gooden
so he is playing that role.
by Orlando Woolridge on May 20, 2008 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
isnt Jefferson
a guard/small forward? or do i have the wrong jefferson, im thinking of the guy on the nets…maybe you are thinking of Al Jefferson (probably just read the last name)
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.
by piccolomair on May 20, 2008 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a matt you gone kick me off for not spelling things right, i didnt no this was school or english class, why you keep picking on me cyber bully
Cyber- bullys are the headers of this site
by Cherishfaith on May 21, 2008 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
D'Antoni
That noise you hear is D’Antoni hitting the ground after he just launched himself off a rooftop in New York.
Rose is can’t miss. But Beasley solves the problem that has plagued us the last 4 years… He’s a guy who you can dump the ball is the post and he’ll get easy buckets. I’d rather have Rose, but if we can’t swing a trade for a lost post option, its gotta be Beasley
by bullsfanhongkong on May 20, 2008 8:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Rose can make Tyrus a monster
I really don’t think the need for a PF is that high anymore
by Option27 on May 20, 2008 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're right
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on May 20, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on May 20, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
get melo for nocioni, hinrich, gray, gooden n someone else
n ur left with
rose
melo
deng
tt
noah
wow
by mrm3x1can on May 20, 2008 8:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like these four guys 3 years from now.
Rose – 23
Gordon – 27
Deng – 26
Thomas – 25
Noah – 26
Hinrich – 31
Thabo – 27
Nocioni – 38
Gray – 325 pounds
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 8:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gray's totally never going to be able to sustain 325 dude
You are too kind sir.
by NBA Observer on May 20, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he will.
But his trailer down by the river might not.
...Ok, that was mean. Jeez, how bad to I feel now. But I’m going to go ahead and post it anyway.
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on May 20, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess this means that we won't be resigning Duhon
by RogersPark Kris on May 20, 2008 8:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Or taking Kevin Love.
Two of my secondary worries this off-season.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he'll be available at #1....just keep that in mind.
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on May 20, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha!!
Hey, NOW who’s pessimistic?? :)
by Rodmaniac on May 20, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
couldn't help myself. how much more exciting it is to talk about derick rose than love or koufos?
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on May 20, 2008 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
idk, but i wasnt laughing
as hard as these guys. i just agreed.
Tyrus Thomas
-"Million dollar talent, ten cent head."
by bulls*hit on May 20, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
I’ll agree if we open the game up and run a little more, but TT at the main 4 under a guy like JVG or Thibadeau doesn’t fit. If we open it up, I agree with Rose.
by bullsfanhongkong on May 20, 2008 8:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We aren't picking a player to fit in with our guys
we are picking a player to be the future of the franchise. In that situation, and with the way the NBA game is going, how can you not pick Rose?!? Who cares if he fits with Hinrich or if Beasley is a better combination – both guys are only 19 years old. You are building around them, not making them the final piece of the puzzle. You draft the guy you think you can build around, the guy who can lead your team for the next 8-10 years. This isn’t pro football. Chad Ford is an idiot.
by DangerMouse on May 20, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i dont think beasley fits well with our team to begin with
another tweener 4. albiet beasleys a friggin beast. but id much rather have a top flight point who can lob it to tyrus all day and make everyone better by shredding every defense
by lampnasty on May 20, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But is he a tweener 4 though?
6’9 is pretty legit size, and his build is that of a 4…
Not that it matters, since we’re taking Rose (please, Pax, do not screw this up…!)
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on May 20, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lineup possibility
Rose, Thabo, Deng, Thomas and Noah
Ummm, excuse me while I go bust a nut
by Option27 on May 20, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
negative nancys
Imagine the looks BG can get with someone else demanding attention late in a game?
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm listening
How else can Rose help our good friend BG?
by NBA Observer on May 20, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
EXACTLY!!!!
all the NBA Teams knew to double Gordon.
NOT ANYMORE!!!!!!!
by gman2849 on May 20, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's prudent to keep Gordon for this reason.
A penatrator is great for lobbing dunks, but he’s also great for shooters.
Too bad, of all the guards, BG is probalby the easiest to moveover the next two years.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he's pretty good
this is the time to dump all the crap.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is.
You trade Hughes for ANYTHING this summer, right? I mean, literally, anything you can get in a trade, you do it.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's worth hanging onto for another year if need be.
The value of his contract in a trade will skyrocket w/ only a year left on it.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
by snley on May 20, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only if he's nowhere near the team...
...and Gordon isn’t kept.
Can this team exist with Hughes getting 10-15 mpg behind Hinrich, Thabo and Rose? Maybe hold on to him until the trade deadline as Rose “earns” his minutes.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Tim Thomas treatment will be in order here for Hughes.
That back court rotation was already overloaded.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
by snley on May 20, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give him the Eddie Robinson treatment
Give him money to go home
by Option27 on May 20, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen
Trade Hinrich, BG, Hughes for a STAR BIG
by swede2287 on May 20, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think you mean
“big star
Tyrus Thomas
-"Million dollar talent, ten cent head."
by bulls*hit on May 20, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree i would trade all of them for an all-star big not star big i want somebody to represent Chicago on sunday in February
by Cherishfaith on May 20, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about all-star derick rose? the bulls are in the eastern conference
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on May 20, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it would be smarter to keep Kirk at least through season 1
A lot of rookies have tough transitions – including ROY KD and Deron Williams – and you all are putting a lot on Rose’s shoulders, expecting him to not only develop his own game but pick up that of the other guys. Give him plenty of minutes to develop, and if he’s proved ready to start trade Kirk midseason.
Also gives Kirk a half to full season to show last year was a fluke and get his value back up, without throwing Rose to the wolves.
(Although Beasley is pretty darn good himself, and I’d actually be OK with that, too)
My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!
by wjb1492 on May 20, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
funny how you can say whatever you want, but if i say something i mite get banned
by Cherishfaith on May 20, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's more sad than anything
not sure why you’re testing it.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
with rose like you said we have to wait and see, but with beasley he is sure to have an impact at 6-10 for the bulls who need a scorer on the block, gooden is a good offensive rebouder not a scorer like beasley. i see beasley averaging 17ppg and 8 as a rookie with the bulls, i see d.rose coming off the bench wit 7 and 4 but if he start and we trade kirk off the back i see him getting 16 and 5. sumthin kirk averaged his 3rd year 15.9
by Cherishfaith on May 20, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The team now has "time".
They don’t need an immediate impact. Pick the player wo they think will be best 3 years-10 years from now. There’s really no other consideration to be made, in my opinion.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
indeed
I also am throwing the idea of hinrich as 6th man, as a player who can play both guard positions effectively well and guard both positions effectively well. Sort of like a manu ginobli…i would be fine with that and it sounds pretty good
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.
by piccolomair on May 20, 2008 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hinrich as a 6th man could work well
At least it would put him the mindset to be aggressive offensively, which is what he needs t be.
formerly sbulls
by Scotter on May 20, 2008 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup, I think it works fine
He’s not paid THAT much, considering how cheap Rose will be compared to his production, and it’ll provide yet more incentive to get Noc out of town (don’t need a 6th and 7th man with those long-term deals)
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You sort of like my plan Matt
It sort of is nice knowing a guy who is more neutral and concerned with teh team rather then the individual likes my idea…now i need hscs to agree with it two and ill start shouting it to the world (for that reason he just may not)
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.
by piccolomair on May 20, 2008 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and defensively
Guarding the guys when they are a bit tired, and not having such a restraint on quick fouls….
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.
by piccolomair on May 20, 2008 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ew
I’m glad you’re thinking about Yi too…
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess my wish that they reach for Rush is probably shot.
Shucks.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 8:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that's right
one of the other side benefits is that I don’t have to research draft prospects.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't get off that easily
won’t the bulls be able to trade into the mid to lower lotter?
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on May 20, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, I feel so good
I want to just like kick off everyone I don’t like on this site. Including all the new people who can’t type!
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
please dont kick me off, i have not said 1 curse word
by Cherishfaith on May 20, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you trying to stay on this site just so can you talk about being kicked off it?
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on May 20, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to read the rest of this diary
just to see if he gets banned…
2008 or bust.
by bullshooter on May 20, 2008 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lemme give you the cliff's notes... he doesn't. but there is always next thread.
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on May 21, 2008 3:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OTOH, I have two new guys to read too many articles about.
I haven’t paid attention to these guys at all except for the NCAA tourney. Too bad my stupid work banned youtube.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can really focus in on the second round pick, now. ;)
My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!
by wjb1492 on May 20, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahhh... shit.
Where’s J.R. Giddens? He went to KU. Just got coached by Steve Alford at New Mexico? What about Jawaiaia Smith or something.
hahaha
Like I give a shit.
Although…. since they’re at #31, Lee or Rush might fall. That would be interesting.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, more Jayhawks seems out of the question now.
My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!
by wjb1492 on May 20, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I seem to remember this feeling before
It’s like a ring feeling
by Option27 on May 20, 2008 8:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the Rose pick is a no-brainer
C’mon, we are talking about Pax. Noah, Thomas, Hinrich, Gordon, Deng – what do they have in common? Paxson does all his scouting at the Final 4. He may not even know who Beasley is.
by DangerMouse on May 20, 2008 8:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on May 20, 2008 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got McHale on Speed Dial
It’s not too late to trade picks.
by swede2287 on May 20, 2008 8:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
D'Antoni
Said he thinks Rose is like Jason Kidd with a jump shot.
Doh!
by Option27 on May 20, 2008 8:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ok guys...
Travis Outlaw, Jarrett Jack and #13 for your #1 pick. Final offer.
Please?
Tough choice for you guys, IMO. Either would fit well.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on May 20, 2008 8:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I just hung up on you.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on May 20, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok ok
you can have Josh McRoberts also. Geez you guys drive a hard bargain.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on May 20, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the Portland Institute for the Insane.
They’ve been wondering where you went off to…
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on May 20, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Throw in Darius Miles
Oh you cut him? No dice
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea me too last time we had the number1 pick he average 20 and 10 was rookie of the year and we traded him and he turned into an allstar
by Cherishfaith on May 20, 2008 8:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well
Don’t say God doesn’t give you second chances
by Option27 on May 20, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Stan" Schanwald is more powerful than God
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey man
you’re making me uncomfortable. Nobody (me) cares about your personal beliefs, so keep them personal.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tuned in just as they showed the top 3 picks
I don’t remember what Steve looked like, but the second I saw a pasty, somewhat nervous looking white man in the top 3, I knew it was us.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha, nice. and true.
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on May 20, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
would it be wrong to get a Schanwald jersey?
Step 1 - Win lottery. Step 2 - Hire a coach. Step 3 - Win.
by Lt.Dan on May 20, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not at all
Schanwald #1
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was half joking....
but I may actually order one. hmmm…
Step 1 - Win lottery. Step 2 - Hire a coach. Step 3 - Win.
by Lt.Dan on May 20, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think there should be a mob waiting for him at the airport
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No--just Benny the Bull and some confetti...
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on May 20, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um, doesn't he live in Chicago?
We can still chill there
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh, he didn't drive.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
then again, he probably ran there
because he’s so great.
To ‘Stan’ Schanwald!!!!
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that reminds me of the
Chuck Norris facts…maybe there should be a list for ‘Stan’.
Step 1 - Win lottery. Step 2 - Hire a coach. Step 3 - Win.
by Lt.Dan on May 20, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stan can cure cancer with his tears
Too bad he never cries
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
by snley on May 20, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant more 'Bill Brasky'
but that works too.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To BILL BRAAAAASKY!!!
He’s an 8 foot, 2 ton mountain of a man!!
Ya know, he’s the biological father of the top 10 prospects in this draft!!!
by Rodmaniac on May 20, 2008 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahahha!!!
It was so funny, It looked like he wanted to correct her after she said “Stan” but then just smiled… Imagine the conversation afterwards…
ESPN Reporter: “Congratulations on winning the Lottery, and I am so, so sorry I called you Stan on national Television”
Stan: uh? What? Call me Peter if you want, WE WON THE LOTTERY!
Blogabull... So Fresh and so Clean Clean!
by Goostafer on May 20, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if the bulls are that cheap, then maybe we skip the pick altogether.
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on May 20, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, and buy him a 6.00 Miller at the UC next season
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pax
should give him a raise…
Step 1 - Win lottery. Step 2 - Hire a coach. Step 3 - Win.
by Lt.Dan on May 20, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giving the phone number for season tickets
was brilliant and just one more I love Stan. What can I say – I’m a Stan fan.
by swede2287 on May 20, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
make the shirts!!!
That was great marketing…
Step 1 - Win lottery. Step 2 - Hire a coach. Step 3 - Win.
by Lt.Dan on May 20, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The more I think about it.
The more it seems the draft was rigged with that ‘advertisement.’
by kingj41 on May 20, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bahahahahahahahahhahaah
Suck on that Jay-Z, Wade, D’Antoni, lucky Kings fan!!!!!
And the #1 pick of the 2008 NBA draft is…....
KEVIN LOVE!!!!
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 8:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and dont forget to pick hansbrough next year
by lampnasty on May 20, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thankfully hansbrough isn't in this draft
Pax likely would look at the naismith ballot results very carefully…
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's not forget about
That 39th overall pick too!
by Option27 on May 20, 2008 8:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Anybody but shan foster
actually shan foster would be great.
by NBA Observer on May 20, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dread has already set in.
Paxson is going to f this up.
He is going to take Beasley because he is in love with Hinrich and he wants to get rid of TT.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on May 20, 2008 8:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
dont ruin this with rational thoughts rite now
im euphoric right now dammit
by lampnasty on May 20, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont say that!
Bilas said Beasley remind him of Derrick Coleman
I really dont want DC
by Option27 on May 20, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Derrick Coleman or Deron Williams.
Toss up.
by swede2287 on May 20, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Pax takes Beasley for the reasons you mentioned
I think we need to light the torches and storm the castle NOW.
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard
by Tyrusmancrush on May 20, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're wrong
Pax’s biases will work in Rose’s favor. Chicago guy? No character issues? check and check. “resonate with the fans”, indeed.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Derrick Rose went to a Final Four
Beasley did not. God I hope Paxson remembers his crappy formula.
by YaoPau on May 20, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, exactly.
this is go great. Even “Pax is a clueless idiot” sentiment doesn’t matter any more.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, true.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on May 20, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he won't be able to keep Deng or Gordon..
Hinrich, Hughes, Nocioni, Gooden, Noah—-your starting five!!!
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paxson better be on the damn phone right now
Asking about every trade scenario involving Noce, Kirk, and Tyrus. I want options you blue-collar asshole
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 8:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why get rid of Tyrus?
He’d be perfect with Rose.
Alley Oops for days
by Option27 on May 20, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
See: Paul, Chris and Chandler, Tyson
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on May 20, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gosh Tyrus
might end up being a legitimate NBA player.
by swede2287 on May 20, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
was he not already? if i said 20 and 12, would that be something you'd be interested in?
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on May 20, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what would it take for me to sell you a rose-thomas alley oop today?
i wish someone had told me that sportsnation had replaced rationality with caps lock.
by MarketMaker on May 20, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I got it!!
Let’s send Tyrus to Boston for P.J. Brown!! Think how sweet it’ll be when that contract comes off our books!!!
by Rodmaniac on May 20, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nail on the head, Option
I pick Rose over Beasley not only because he has great size for the position, a history of winning, and a terrific personality, but because Rose makes our other players better. Tyrus most obviously: but also Ben Gordon and Luol. Our “drive and kick” game works far, far better when we’ve got a guy who can beat just about anyone off the dribble and finish in the lane. The only thing I wish was that we’d signed D’Antoni now – we could have really ran.
Wow. This is terrific. Now it’s time for trader Pax to make some moves and clear up space, add some more pieces.
Woohoo!
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on May 20, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes please trade kirk and nocioni
by Cherishfaith on May 20, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine how fast-paced and entertaining our offense could be with
Rose at the helm.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on May 20, 2008 8:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you must got a lot of basketball sense because i agree, trade kirk and nocioni
by Cherishfaith on May 20, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No no no no no no no no no...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=MockDraft-080520
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on May 20, 2008 8:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
that makes far less sense than Rose. With an elite pg, Tyrus can turn into a helluva player. We need to maximize what we’ve got, not waste what we have.
Although I will say that I think Beasley will win ROY.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on May 20, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you pick Beasley, trade Miami the 2nd Pick.
Don’t let Miami get their favorite player for free. If you really really want Beasley (and please really really pick Rose). Exchange with Miami for a couple of Mil and or get ride of some dead weight that way.
by JockstrapNoah on May 20, 2008 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only problem is I don't know what number to get on my Rose jersey
by bullsfanhongkong on May 20, 2008 8:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dear MJ,
Can I come get my number down from the rafters?
Sincerely,
Derrick Rose
by NBA Observer on May 20, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
first some crazy meanie insults God
and this may be worse :-D
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Rose would look nice in #25.
then again, I think he’d look good in any number, as long as it says Bulls on the front
by bullsfanhongkong on May 20, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where are the 25% that want Beasley?
I’m pretty sure you’re wrong. But I want to hear your perspective since every commenter on this thread seems to want Rose.
by YaoPau on May 20, 2008 8:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
One thing to remember is that Beasley was pretty much a concensus #1 all year
Rose caught him with a great NCAA tournament, which is a much smaller sample size of greatness.
My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!
by wjb1492 on May 20, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want Rose
But Beasley put up quite the the heroic performance in the NCAA tournament. At 6’ 10 he’s going to be an intimidating presence. He’s hard to pass up.
Rose has better potential to reach that super-elite level of player, the rare ones who can take control of an entire game. That possibility of nabbing the next superstar is why you can’t not pick Rose.
by BJarmstrong on May 20, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One question is size
if he’s 6’10, that’s one thing – but I’ve heard he’s actually more like 6.8.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on May 20, 2008 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's 6'3''-6'4''
I have no idea where you guys are getting these numbers.
"Glen Davis??? wow!! We had Glen Davis, his name is Michael Sweetney" - tyrus4prez
by NittanyBull on May 20, 2008 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they are referring to Beasley
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got me.
"Glen Davis??? wow!! We had Glen Davis, his name is Michael Sweetney" - tyrus4prez
by NittanyBull on May 20, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine the scenarios
"Glen Davis??? wow!! We had Glen Davis, his name is Michael Sweetney" - tyrus4prez
by NittanyBull on May 20, 2008 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, who the hell are you?
"Glen Davis??? wow!! We had Glen Davis, his name is Michael Sweetney" - tyrus4prez
by NittanyBull on May 20, 2008 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
"Glen Davis??? wow!! We had Glen Davis, his name is Michael Sweetney" - tyrus4prez
by NittanyBull on May 20, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How funny things change
It went from Love, Westbrook or Jordan to Rose or Beasley
FUCK
by Option27 on May 20, 2008 8:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's one of the things I'm happiest about
I think both Beasley and Rose will be great and can get on board with either, although if I were in charge I’d probably go with Rose.
But equally exciting is that we no longer have to live in fear of a project or low-upside guy.
My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!
by wjb1492 on May 20, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're a playoff team
and I know that means little in the East….
But we are.
by swede2287 on May 20, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
they likely were anyway with a decent coach
this means much much more. At least…in a couple years. But I will say championship now.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad I dont feel so dillusional now
I was thinking Championship too
by Option27 on May 20, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too early for that
But by season start, we will have a future perennial all-star on our roster.
by swede2287 on May 20, 2008 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that we're putting pressure on him.....
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
championship, no way not until 2012
by Cherishfaith on May 20, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Championship
because not only does this improve our existing players, it sorta gets the mojo back. Those dudes really spiraled out of control last year. Now: new coach, contracts (hopefully), a streamlined roster and an elite talent at a pivotal spot.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on May 20, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade Machine
Anyone else on the trade machine right now, trying to figure out a way to get rid of Noc, Hinrich and Hughes… Anyone? Anyone?
by bullsfanhongkong on May 20, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So what teams need Kirk Hinrich and Nocioni?
I will personally drive them to the airport in my Nissan Quest.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 8:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How about packaging all the dead weight in a #1 deal?
So instead of getting an awesome player, get rid of Hughes and whoever else you consider dead weight.
by JockstrapNoah on May 20, 2008 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will this turn into the first thread
With multiple threads in the new format?
I think so
by Option27 on May 20, 2008 8:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i didn't really see much of Beasley this year...
....how good is he? Clearly everyone seems to want Rose (which is probably a good idea) but would love to know more about Beasley.
by bullsfaninbigapple on May 20, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Refer to draft thread
or draft express, or nbadraft.net or chad ford
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beasley will be a 20 point scorer in the league for years but....
he won’t elevate players on his team like Rose will.
by swede2287 on May 20, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
more athletic version of melo is how id describe it...
hed be great in red as well but im gonna join everyone else in the d rose jerkathon
by lampnasty on May 20, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way.
Melo seems like he was born with a natural jump shot. When it leaves his hand, you know it’s going in—barely touches the net on its way through. I don’t remember seeing this in Beasley, who is a more traditional low post presence (also, Melo’s a 3 and Beasley’s a 4).
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on May 20, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beasley has a pretty sweet outside shot, though
My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!
by wjb1492 on May 20, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i understand that
thinkin in terms of bein a beast on offense and bein lost on other parts of the game.
by lampnasty on May 20, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My friend is a Nuggets fan...
and i watched a few games with him and if you think Hughes takes bad shots you will hate melo. Especially in the playoffs melo sucked in all the games i watched this year
by bullzfan148 on May 20, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think of Thomas but in reverse.
He has about 90% of the offensive moves one would want in a college freshman. He’s known to be pretty “raw” (or bad) at defense. He’s an athletic freak, but has more strength than quickness.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that's about three differing opinions.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For what it's worth, yours is the only one I didn't take w/ a mountain of salt
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
by snley on May 20, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
Thanks. It’s a simplified version, but I think it works. Beasley and Thomas at the three and the four would be about the highest-risk/lowest-floor combo ever.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just noticed
draftexpress has the bulls taking Beasley
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on May 20, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Given the current roster, it makes sense
but Rose is Paxson’s wet dream of a pick
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
by snley on May 20, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They still haven't taken "team needs" into consideration.
They’ve kept Beasley #1 when everyone else moved Rose above. They just switched the teams around to reflect the lottery results.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on May 20, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looking through the rest of the players.
If memory serves, they didn’t change one player, just the teams.
My guess is they were waiting for tonight, they’ll do some evaluation, and come out with their first “real” mock draft in the next day or two.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm speculating about speculation.
You’ve taught me well, my friend.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was more referring to espn.com
Ford had written a column going through the lottery teams explaining whom each should pick if they had #1 and he said the Bull should take Beasley. Of course, last year he kept writing the Bulls would take Hawes.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
by snley on May 20, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's really good.
Very tough to stop offensively. I thought his defense was OK, but the game I remember most clearly he was in foul trouble early and got subbed on defense every possession for most of the first half.
My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!
by wjb1492 on May 20, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see it now
And the MVP of the 2009 Rookie-Sophomore game….
Derrick Rose!
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oh, he's making the main team
After all, coaches love selecting guys from teams with awesome first-half records :)
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bhahahahahaa
And the head coach of the Eastern Conference All-Stars…Peeeeeeeeete Myerssssssss
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to know who the "Other" is that 107 fans voted for at the Trib
I mean, I admit I didn’t follow college basketball that much, but who else is there?
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
by snley on May 20, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Feinstein...
Step 1 - Win lottery. Step 2 - Hire a coach. Step 3 - Win.
by Lt.Dan on May 20, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OJ Mayo.
And not a bad option for Minnesota by the way. Unless McHale drafts Lopez and the fans finally burn him at the stake.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on May 20, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if thats what it takes to get him got
and not the whole garnett ordeal, then i fear for minnesota…lopez isnt that bad
by lampnasty on May 20, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lopez is college good...
But Mayo is a huge upgrade over Mcants.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on May 20, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering how old he is, Mayo didn't have a very impressive season
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
by snley on May 20, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How old he is?
He was a freshman.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on May 20, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He turned 20 at the beginning of the season, which means he
probably should have been a junior at least. Don’t get me wrong, he was plenty good, but that freshman status is deceiving.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
by snley on May 20, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
people turn 20 in their sophomore years
typically 18 as a senior in high school, 19 as a frosh, 20 as a sophomore.
he’s sophomore age
It’s not great, but it’s not THAT big of a deal.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mayo's issue
will be athleticism. He can really shoot it – but had trouble getting by decent defenders. And when faced with an elite defender in Westbrook, he was actually pretty bad.
I saw Rose blow by Mayo a few times, thoug.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on May 20, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Jordan...
Averaged more turnovers than assists in college.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on May 20, 2008 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless you mean he's too young...
But it’s fairly consensus that he’ll be a very good NBA player.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on May 20, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would worry a lot about having more turnovers than assists for the season
John Hollinger does a piece every year about college numbers for draft prospects and I can’t wait to see what he has to say about that.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
by snley on May 20, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and age is a huge factor for Hollinger
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on May 20, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh...
Rashad Mcants averages more TO’s than assists and he’s been in the league for 3 years.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on May 20, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your contradicting his point with McCants as the example?
He’s been bad so far, and would have been out of the league if he wasn’t a 1st round pick on a terrible team.
formerly sbulls
by Scotter on May 20, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You really think Mayo will be worse than McCants?
I was just saying that they already have a player who turns it over more often than he assists at that position… Which was Snley’s point of contention.
Even if they end up drafting Lopez I promise you that Mchale would swap McCants for Mayo in a heartbeat.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on May 20, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Mayo will be better
McCants should have been drafted in the 2nd round. But, more TOthan assists is a really bad sign from a guard.
formerly sbulls
by Scotter on May 20, 2008 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Durant...
Averages more TO’s than assists.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on May 20, 2008 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's only a guard in legalistic
sense. And Durant has ways to go before he’s efficient enough to actually help his team win a lot. The kid has to improve a lot, but it seemed like he was getting towards the end of the year.
formerly sbulls
by Scotter on May 20, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that's why
You don’t play Durant at SG
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Jordan...
Averaged more turnovers than assists in college.
We never should have drafted that guy.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on May 20, 2008 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something is terrible screwy with my browser...
I think the thread is too big. I digress…
Michael Jordan averaged more TO’s than assists in college. I wonder what Hollinger would have said about that.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on May 20, 2008 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Garnett ordeal probably should have sealed the deal...
IMO he should have been gone after the whole Joe Smith fisaco years ago.
In other news…
The Bulls have the #1 pick!!!
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on May 20, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe pax will coach now
Super Bowl XLI MVP Rex Grossman
Chicago Bulls Captain and Starting Point Guard Kirk Hinrich...
Same Person
by 234L on May 20, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Imagine what Boylan could've done
with Derrick Rose on his team.
by YaoPau on May 20, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
now what
we trade either kirk or hughes plus for ___
F HINRICH
by 234L on May 20, 2008 8:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
heh
I approve of putting that in your signature, if it means fewer comments saying pretty much the same thing. Nicely played.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it's a grade from last season
Didn’t think about that, did you?
"Glen Davis??? wow!! We had Glen Davis, his name is Michael Sweetney" - tyrus4prez
by NittanyBull on May 20, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For...
Melo
Maybe Aldridge
Brand
Marion
by swede2287 on May 20, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not bad, Swede
I hadn’t thought of Marion as an addition. Doesn’t look so bad now…
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on May 20, 2008 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For a bag of newspapers
as long as the Bulls get Hughes contract off the books, it’s a good trade. If Rose is selected, Hinrich has to be moved considering how much he makes and the fact that you don’t need him to play the 2 guard anymore.
by messwiththebull on May 20, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
draft Rose
trade Deng & Hinrich for C. Anthony
Lineup:
Rose
BG/Hughes
Anthony
Tyrus/Noc
Noah
Denver:
Hinrich
Iverson
Deng
Martin
Camby
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
by tyrus4prez on May 20, 2008 8:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i dont know if i could handle that much good fortune.
let alone the whole melo thing is comin from new jersey inquiring about him and not about denver shoppin him to other teams. theyd be insane to get rid of someone that great at an early age.
by lampnasty on May 20, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really can't express how excited I am.
Pax really could screw it up (in getting a bad coach, taking Beasley, trading Thomas for someone like Battier or Harpring-I am scared of that-and failing to keep Deng and Gordon), but he hasn’t shown the propensity to be THAT bad.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I blame more on Kirk then
Paxon. he just lost it this year. Gordon took half a season to get in form (despite all the double teaming) and Deng was hurt a lot.
But I think Kirk just lost it once they didn’t let him penetrate.
by gman2849 on May 20, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm... that's my point?
Except for the Kirk part.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant Kirk
just lost it. Paxon hasn’t played in years.
but he did mess up the lamarcus deal. maybe with rose dishing to tyrus, he gets his reprieve
by gman2849 on May 20, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, maybe we're not disagreeing.
I don’t put that much blame on Paxson. he screwed up with Wallace, but one mistake isn’t the end of the world. Kirk was bad, but he got better in December and was pretty good when Deng and Gordon were out.
In all honesty, I’d put most of the blame of this past season on Ben Wallace and bad luck.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree with your Ben Wallace point
and still he managed to sucker cleveland into taking “the corpse”
by gman2849 on May 20, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paxson made a good move
in moving Wallace. You gotta give Paxson that.
by swede2287 on May 20, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now if only we can package Hughes in a trade too.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on May 20, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard that about Kirk too...
...but this really isn’t the place to discuss his romantic life!
by BJarmstrong on May 20, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take that Lil General!
Never thought I’d say this, but Stu Scott knows (talking about how good the Bulls job looks now at halftime of Celts-Pistons to guest analyst Avery Johnson).
by ToroToroToro on May 20, 2008 8:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My biggest fear...
Draft Beasley and trade TT for chump change.
by JeffD on May 20, 2008 8:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
or derrick rose with a motorcycle obsession
by lampnasty on May 20, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poor taste
Clever, but man, all I remember is him saying he felt like his insides were dripping after the accident.
by JockstrapNoah on May 20, 2008 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yes.
That is the future I foresee.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on May 20, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finally we have a superstar!!!
I know everyone hears hates that word, but man, we needed one so bad….oh wow, cant wait for the season to start!!!
by bullsfaninbigapple on May 20, 2008 8:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I meant
...here not ‘hear’
by bullsfaninbigapple on May 20, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trib article...
Step 1 - Win lottery. Step 2 - Hire a coach. Step 3 - Win.
by Lt.Dan on May 20, 2008 8:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes!
Let’s build his team around Rose, lob passes to Tyrus and Noah.
“BAM”
My son also got excited and wanted to write the following ..
“Rose is the top player in college, and he’s only a freshman”.
by exult463 on May 20, 2008 8:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Draft Rose...
He’ll put TT on Sportscenter every night with easy dunks.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on May 20, 2008 8:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bilas just said
we should take Rose.
--Torch
by torch on May 20, 2008 8:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
did you see the bilas comments?
he was definite on rose
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on May 20, 2008 8:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And that was after
he praised Beasley as a 20-10 player for his career. That should tell you what Rose is capable of.
by swede2287 on May 20, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can anyone say leader?
besides Noah hahahaha
by gman2849 on May 20, 2008 8:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Joakim
is the happiest guy besides us!
by Option27 on May 20, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smile again Noah!
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paxson
because he’s now given an opportunity to cleanup his mistakes.
Actually I’m happy for him, yet it’s conditional on him picking Rose.
by exult463 on May 20, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, this truly is a day for good feelings
if exult is happy for Pax :)
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your thoughts
What if we traded Hinrich to Portland for Jarrett Jack, Channing Frye and Raef LaFrentz’s expiring contract. We’d have a backup point for Rose, Frye could be (at worst) our first big off the bench as either TT or Noah’s replacement, and LaFrentz’s contract would be a big chip at the deadline… thoughts?
by bullsfanhongkong on May 20, 2008 9:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i want more for Hinrich
and we don’t need Channing Frye. We need a guy who can score at will – specifically in the post.
by swede2287 on May 20, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really don't care...
...which one we take. I happen to think both will be fantastic pro players. Rose could be the glue that brings it all together and Beasley could end up be a 20-10 guy right away. Bottom line is that we should FINALLY have elusive potential STAR that we’ve been missing on this team full of role players. In another 2 years there should be no debating whether Ben Gordon or Luol Deng is the best player on the team. They should DEFINITIVELY be second or third bananas behind whomever we take in this draft. I’m excited and ready to get next season underway!!!!
by lexdiamonds0730 on May 20, 2008 9:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
draft Rose, trade Kirk/Deng/Gordon, play these guys
PG: Rose
SG: Thabo
SF: Tyrus
PF: Gooden
C: Noah
Dont play to win this year, play to get all these guys minutes. Trade for a tall shooter like Peja, but hopefully quicker. Whoever of the “core team 2007” we can’t trade, stick em in, but the last minute plays need to be designed as developmental minutes for Rose, etc.
If minny is willing to give up its pick because we are taking Rose, we should trade some of our core team losers for their pick, take a scoring big or a tall shooter.
?
by iBurkey on May 20, 2008 9:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why?
I definitely think we should draft Rose, and our future is bright, but why does everybody include Thabo in dream lineups? Noah and Tyrus yes, but Thabo? He’s a career backup wing/defensive specialist. We’ve got better athletes to run the floor and finish. We need shooters to space the floor, so Rose can create and get everybody easy buckets.
by rb22 on May 20, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why Thabo?
Because Thabo needs development minutes, and started showing he will hit open looks if he gets them. Its better than playing Kirk or Gordon extended minutes- they are at their ceilings.
by iBurkey on May 20, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why are you starting Thabo
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because Kirk and Gordon are at their ceilings, and Thabo isn't
by iBurkey on May 20, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gordon at his ceiling....is a very good player
Unless you want to average 80 points a game…BG is starting.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't see the point, and neither have the Bulls for the past 2 seasons.
He’s a great instant offense guy, I like him, and I totally appreciate that he is always in the gym. But he’s short, and can’t match up with the other teams SG, so what’s the point, if Rose is playing extended at PG?
by iBurkey on May 20, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking
something similar. I had read on InsideHoops.com(which I realize is 99% speculation, but lets be honest that’s what we’re all doing anyway) that Minnesota may look to move the pick if they don’t get Rose. So maybe move a couple of core players get a big sg or possibley trade the pick down for some cash and take a high-risk, high reward player.
by dabulls91 on May 20, 2008 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BRILLIANT
I choked on my cereal reading when I saw it on TV.
THIS IS BRILLIANT!!!
Let’s see Pax fuck this up now…
by Alighieri on May 20, 2008 9:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DON'T TRADE KIRK HINRICH THIS SUMMER!!!
Not in any of your fantasy scenarios. Any of you.
A) Paxson likes him.
B) He’s a captain.
C) His value is at all-time low.
D) A 20-year-old rookie PG starting is a disaster of a season.
The Bulls got their break. They don’t need to be in the lottery again. They need to get that “winning mentality” back (even if you don’t believe in that). Hinrich at the point for 25 mpg with Rose at 20, still leads this team to very good record and some great development.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 9:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Makes sense
Can we still get rid of Noce?
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want Rose
to get at least 30 min a game.
Trade Hinrich and let Rose learn through his mistakes.
Something the Bulls have a hard time letting their rookies do
by Option27 on May 20, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way.
You don’t want the guy breaking down. Don’t we want a veteran PG to teach him things?
20 mpg is totally acceptable.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last I checked....
....Chris Paul and Deron Williams both played significant minutes as rookies. So people, PLEASE stop your madness and let whichever rookie we take play AT MINIMUM 30 mpg. And what in the hell is Hinrich gonna teach him? That dribble technique where he goes under the basket and dribbles back out to the top of the key again? I hope not that one. In truth, Rose is the one who’s been a PG his whole life. He may be able to teach Hinrich a thing or two.
by lexdiamonds0730 on May 20, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They also were sophomores and juniors, respectively.
With no thoughts of the immediate future.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This also is a big reason...
...why we still have no idea who Tyrus Thomas really is. When you take a guy with the 1st or 2nd pick in the NBA draft, unless you have a team the contended for a championship, you play that rookie a significant number of minutes. Let him feel his way through early on so that by his 2nd year he finds his groove…..either that or you’ll know he’s not worth a damn. So I say put Rose or Beasley out there and let them go till they can’t go anymore. Either of them will likely represent and IMMEDIATE talent upgrade at their respective positions.
by lexdiamonds0730 on May 20, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rock on again.
Play all the youngsters lots of minutes, tell them to run it, gun it, and play Hughes in the Benny outfit.
by iBurkey on May 20, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you mean like atlanta does?
how’s that worked out for them the last four or five years?
2008 or bust.
by bullshooter on May 20, 2008 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They didn't have much going on
at PG. With Rose we would.
Joakim Noah for player/coach!
by marionette on May 21, 2008 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that does make sense
but I think it applies to Tyrus too, as by the end of his first season he was an upgrade over Nocioni, Smith, etc….
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
doesn't a little voice in the back of your head
say “d” might be a reason to keep Duhon?
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on May 20, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wwas thinking that
If we trade Kirk, we re-sign Du for one year as the backup.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
not if you accept that Kirk, Thabo, Rose and Hughes/Gordon will be on the team next year.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm really thinking Kirk will be gone
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on May 20, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and duhon won't feel threatened by rose
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on May 20, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares what Kirk "feels like".
He’s vastly better than Duhon. By a ridiculous, terrible margin.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kirk could also be a Ginobili like player off of the bench.
2008 or bust.
by bullshooter on May 20, 2008 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
except much worse
but he’s be better than most. Ginobili is just a poor example for any comparison, he’s arguably a top ten player in the whole league.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He could be a Jason Terry-type
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DITTO
!!! :-)!!!!!!
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.
by piccolomair on May 20, 2008 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
I’ve yet to hear a good reason other than he sucked one year in his career, and the Bulls might draft a PG. That hardly outweighs what I’ve said.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's too valuable as a trade piece
and not that valuable anymore to the bulls
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on May 20, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What value does he have in a trade right now?
Four years left? A crappy PER.
And he’s still valuable to the Bulls. You forget that this team tried to make the playoffs until they were mathematically eliminated. They want to win. Hinrich gives them a better chance to win next year than Rose/Duhon.
If they can get something great for Hinrich, fine, but I don’t see it.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you about not intentionally seeking a trade
but there are actually several articles out already talking about the Bulls being willing to trade Kirk and what teams might want him. I think he has higher trade value than you’re allowing.
My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!
by wjb1492 on May 20, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think there will be good demand for him
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on May 20, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why????
1) Kirk can’t actually cover the other teams SG. He does ok on little guys the rest is because some people think if he draws lots of fouls, and makes serious faces, he’s playing good D.
2) Kirk is not a good shooter. He’s an average shooter.
3) Kirk is short.
4) Kirk is not quick.
by iBurkey on May 20, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
do not get in between
me and my fantasies of trading hinrich…...
but keeping him wouldnt be the worst thing in the world, but Rose needs to be starting and playing at least 30 a night for better or worse with Hinrich taking a reduced role as backup pg or backup sg. i say we are gonna trade either hinrich or hughes…
F HINRICH
by 234L on May 20, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Although no matter what reasons you state, can Kirk move to 2? Cos if they give Rose Duhon minutes I will cry like a baby.
by Alighieri on May 20, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kirk can play the 2
and is a better defender then gorden and a better scorer then Thabo
by gman2849 on May 20, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got a point there. Makes sense to keep Kirk, trade Deng/Gordon in sign and trades.
Call him the veteran captain, build his self esteem, trade value.
by iBurkey on May 20, 2008 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and lose 60 games?
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't say play him. I said keep him.
Start him like we “started” Tyrus last year- play him some minutes, bring in Rose for 30. Then play kirk some more at end.
by iBurkey on May 20, 2008 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
didn't they lose 50 games with Deng/Gordon?
2008 or bust.
by bullshooter on May 20, 2008 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
didn't you go away for awhile?
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
was that a tough question?
and no smiley face? :-(
2008 or bust.
by bullshooter on May 20, 2008 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I slept through this, I just woke up two minutes ago.
Whoops
"Glen Davis??? wow!! We had Glen Davis, his name is Michael Sweetney" - tyrus4prez
by NittanyBull on May 20, 2008 9:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
chad ford's review of Rose
Positives: Pass-first point guard with excellent floor vision and handle. Very strong and super athletic. A tenacious defender. Great quickness and leaping ability. Excels taking his man to the basket. Virtually unstoppable one-on-one. Great size for his position. Excellent floor leader.
by gman2849 on May 20, 2008 9:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ooops forgot the summery
Summary: The best pure point guard in the draft draws some comparisons to both Deron Williams and Chris Paul. He has the strength and defensive presence of Williams and the speed and quickness of Paul Looks like a lock for a Top 2 pick and a potential No. 1 pick depending on who gets the No. 2 pick.
by gman2849 on May 20, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
his shot
especially his outside shot.
he’s no Steve Nash on offense.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's what gorden and deng are for
we need a floor leader a taller defender, a penetrator and an assist man.
by gman2849 on May 20, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
did anyone see how west
just followed paul into the lane and got that easy dunk in game 7? Think Tyrus or Noah, hell even Thabo will be going in to clean up….
by gman2849 on May 20, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I didn't say anything bad about him.
Just listed the negatives to his game. Hell, LeBron James has negatives to his game. Rose isn’t perfect. Sheesh.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
your right about his shooting
and free throw percentage isn’t great.
by gman2849 on May 20, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't he Jason Kidd-esque
Complete with the weak offensive repertoire?
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sort of---his shot's better and he's more athletic
not as tall and we don’t know if he’ll have the same vision as Kidd.
but yeah, he’s an excellent ball-handler that is a really good passer and is super strong and will be at the very least average on defense.
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why D'Antoni
referred to Derrick Rose as Jason Kidd with a jump shot, right? Because of his weak offensive repertoire, I’m sure.
by messwiththebull on May 20, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't everyone glad we didn't give up this pick in a trade
by bullsfanhongkong on May 20, 2008 9:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Only cos we expected 9th
If Pax goes for Beasley or some other schmoe not named Derrick Rose, I’ll will be packing a shotgun to the Berto after the draft
by Alighieri on May 20, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
um.
not that funny, really.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on May 20, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wasn't meant to be
I really will. or at least stop streaming the match so damn early in the morning
by Alighieri on May 20, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beasley looks sullen.
And he kicks dogs.
And, one time, when he was drinking, he kicked a guy’s ass for showing too much heart and grit.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on May 20, 2008 9:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Would Hughes be willing to be the new Benny the Bull?
The pay is still good.
by iBurkey on May 20, 2008 9:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's good to see a lot more
positive responds on this site again!
by gman2849 on May 20, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
after the d’antoni debacle, the whole energy was taken out of the place. now it’s rejuvenated!
by Jaina on May 20, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My wife doesn't understand, so where else do I go?
by iBurkey on May 20, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the place
Welcome to our excitement
by gman2849 on May 20, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paxson is going to set new standards for ambiguity and evasiveness
in answering questions about which player he is going to select with the number one pick:
“We’re going to evaluate every player in the draft to determine which one is the best fit for this franchise. There is a process in place. The media may have predetermined who the top two players in this draft are, but this organization doesn’t take direction on personnel from sports writers. We’re keeping an open mind throughout the process.”
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on May 20, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
but he does say that
they are going to get younger with thier pick. and eludes to keeping the pick
by gman2849 on May 20, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW...
I fabricated that quote.
I don’t want anyone to believe it is a real quote. It’s a joke.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on May 20, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question
Do you think any of the coaching candidates will want a say in this?
by Alighieri on May 20, 2008 9:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
they are REALLY lining up now
I keep replaying D’antoni’s little smile when he finds out that their picking 6th.
Is that wrong?
by gman2849 on May 20, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish Boylan or Skiles was still our Coach
A Rose/Hinrich/BG/Du/Sefolosha lineup on the court would be sick
by shoryuken on May 20, 2008 9:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Rose at the four.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on May 20, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rose's jumper
Even though he can’t shoot it that well (33% from the college 3), Chris Paul didn’t shoot it well when he got to the league and he shot 37% last year. Rose can get to the rim as well as almost anyone in the league right now, and his drive and kick ability will lead to BG three’s, Deng midrange j’s, and Noah and TT dunking with reckless abandon.
by bullsfanhongkong on May 20, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is anyone elses head swirling with the options? Could and should we even try to package something for Melo…? Is Rose the clear #1? I mean Jay Will was pretty hyped up too and he looked pretty bad his rookie season im not checking the stats but only 1 game with 20 points and one game with 10 ass. Being a great PG in college wait im sorry…. Being great in college isnt always good for the NBA right Mr. Nelson, Morrison, Reddick ect. Beastly? I really like his inside-outside game but his need would be so high on the inside he would never be given the chance at a 3. We should ge Rose though but are we keeping Kirk and letting Gordon walk? If this was my decision id rebuild our core plus a D Rose is flawed we have a team who like to score on jumpers 3’s ect. We get alot of our shots off dribble penatration id rather get the open 3 like the Spurs. Watch them do this play Duncan doubled he kicks out to whoever swings it around to whoever (if its Manu he slashing to the LEFT lol) or swings it to the corner (Bowen is left open alot there cause he shoots like Dick Cheaney). It all starts from that double team down low. Rondo – Garnett Chauncy – Sheed Duncan – Parker
Kobe – Pau. If Rose works were 75% the way there.
00 is the best jersey number but.
Rose Jersey # 1? 22?
by TRiCioNeRo on May 20, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Rose is a better prospect than Jay was
With that said, everyone remembers the 26, 14, 13 night Jay had against Kidd that year, and he really started to play well when his minutes increased at the end of the year. Rose is also more of a true point the Jay was.
by bullsfanhongkong on May 20, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to mention
that the rules have changed since then to accommodate guards.
by gman2849 on May 20, 2008 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rose is also a big point guard
Jay Williams was another Flintstone vitamin just like Litlte Boy Ben.
by messwiththebull on May 20, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was actually a super undersized 2
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on May 20, 2008 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The basic rule for NBA PG prospects it that you have to give them at least 3 years to develop
Paul and Deron are the very rare exceptions. Look how long it took Nash, Calderon, and Billups. None of those guys looked like All star players in the beginning. So yeah Jay Wil had an unspectacular first year, but he had the gifts to become something special…. He just had a peanut for a brain.
by shoryuken on May 20, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please no Melo.
He’s the prototypical NBA “All-star”.. He looks good on film, has a great shot, and his team loses, because he’s the best player, and has never dreamed of playing defense.
by iBurkey on May 20, 2008 9:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate Melo but....
In all fairness, it’s not all his fault that Denver got crushed. Melo has worked hard this year to improve his defense, and I’d say he went from atrocious to subpar this year. Denver lost because management traded the team leader, defensive playing Andre Miller for the Iso, Iso, Shoot Iverson.
by shoryuken on May 20, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Melo is exactly the type of player who can help
a team be good, but isn’t efficient enough and doesn’t do enough on defense to help his team be great. Guys like Anthony rach a level where they prevent their team from becoming great.
formerly sbulls
by Scotter on May 20, 2008 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Oh my oh my oh my!! Ha HA! Well, Ha HA ha ha HAH!!! Yes sir! YES SIR!!!
That’s all I have for the time being, except . . . suck it D’Antoni!!
John Paxson has been like family to me. I can no more disown him than I can disown my white grandmother, who also was unable to pull off any deals for superstar free agents or hire a top-notch coach.
by preverbal on May 20, 2008 9:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Draft on Youtube now...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-vsQBwum7s
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on May 20, 2008 9:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lottery I mean...
Mike Dantoni… Good stuff :)
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on May 20, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How great was the look on his face?
Coach of NY: $24 mil.
Missed out on the chance to coach the number one pick: priceless.
2008 or bust.
by bullshooter on May 20, 2008 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Hoiberg's reaction
He literally almost drops his teddy bear.
by JeffD on May 20, 2008 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy shit! D'Antoni's reaction really is priceless.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on May 20, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know I shouldn't...
But I feel kind of sorry for him.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on May 20, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, I'm already over it.
GO BULLS!!!
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on May 20, 2008 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks
Man, did I see “Stan” flashing some rings after they said the Bulls jumped to the top-3???
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I loved how he hawked season tickets
That’s how you maintain profitability!
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
does anyone have Boylan’s address? I need to send him some of my grandma’s cookies… mmm cookies
by bullsfanhongkong on May 20, 2008 9:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You click the picture button
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the best day of Schanwald's life...
his comment on ESPN, another reason i love this guy.
by swede2287 on May 20, 2008 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, really.
He may be a short and unathletic guy, but he’s super smoothe. I was waiting for him to start putting the moves on that grungy looking ESPN woman.
Is Schanwald essentially a likeable and charismatic version Crumbs??
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on May 20, 2008 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he had an interview on CSN
and, like Krause, he had a lucky penny (just one though).
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And a shitload
of pictures of other people’s kids.
by sue369 on May 21, 2008 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know everyone hates this...
but, why not keep our core of Hinrich Gordon Deng and throw in superstar Beasley + improved Thomas and Noah and give that a try.
by jrapps1323 on May 20, 2008 9:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Because that isn't smart
"Glen Davis??? wow!! We had Glen Davis, his name is Michael Sweetney" - tyrus4prez
by NittanyBull on May 20, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
People here have had time to get tired of the Bulls' backcourt issues,
and the frontcourt still has all that untapped potential.
There are tons of recommendations for Beasley over Rose outside of Blogabull.
My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!
by wjb1492 on May 20, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nooooooo
The phrase “better fit for the team” should never ever ever ever ever be mentioned in regards to a top 3 pick.
When you have a chance to draft a superstar, you pick the best player. It doesn’t matter if the Bulls have seven guards on their team or fifteen, Rose is the pick.
by YaoPau on May 20, 2008 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because Beasley is an apparent ball hog, so he won't make anyone else better...
And is undersized, and our back court blows.
by iBurkey on May 20, 2008 9:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The second best thing about this outcome
is that, instead of fearing we’d take him, we can see what team does end up takng Kevin Love. Phew!
My money’s torn between the Clippers (Brand insurance) or the Pacers (Bird is in over his head).
by messwiththebull on May 20, 2008 9:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
D'Antoni
How do we describe D’Antonis face? I personally believe he looks like he just farted and instead got a little suprise in his pants.
by bullsfanhongkong on May 20, 2008 10:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You need BOTH a good low post threat AND a good perimeter player to win
Kobe/Shaq, Wade/Shaq, Duncan/Manu, Hakeem/Drexler….. MJ/Longley
I would rate our post play a 1 out of 10 right now, and rate our perimeter play a 5 out of 10. So I would take Beasley over Rose. Both are going to be studs, but I think it’s harder to find the low post player rather than a good perimeter player. Yes Rose’s team went farther into the tourney, but Rose had a good team. Beasley’s team was utter crap.
by shoryuken on May 20, 2008 10:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
MJ/Longley?
HA ha ha ha h aha h ahha haaaaaaaaaaaa ha haa hahha ha
by iBurkey on May 20, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Longleys best season
was in 97-98. He lit the world up for 11 points and 6 rebounds a contest. Gooden averaged 12 and 8 last year, so I guess our big man problem is solved
by bullsfanhongkong on May 20, 2008 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha obviously MJ and Pip were the exception
but every other championship team has needed a low post force to go along with an elite perimeter player
by shoryuken on May 20, 2008 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
to be fair, their is some chance our youngsters can develop into some of that.
Tyrus has huge upside if they can find the right mix of meds for him.
by iBurkey on May 20, 2008 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, but before you can get two superstars, you need one
And we better pick the best player right now. Besides, you’re acting like Hinrich and Gordon are in the same class as Kobe, Wade, and MJ, which couldn’t be farther from the truth.
by YaoPau on May 20, 2008 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Negative
I said our guard play would rate a 5 out of 10 right now. Average. Not elite. Serviceable but lots of room to improve. But we have zero low post presence right now so why not just fix that with one pick. Our perimiter players are serviceable for the time being. If we take Rose, sure in 2 years we would have an elite player in the back court but we still would have zero low post presence which means first round exits every year (assuming we dont land the #1 pick again).
by shoryuken on May 20, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No thanks
There is a difference between what you call a “good” perimeter player and an elite point guard. There is such a huge difference you can’t even equate the two.
Beasley can be a beast if his character concerns turn out to be unfounded. I’ll have a lot of fun watching him play on the Heat, where he should excel by feeding off two other stars. He’ll like the beach, too, I’m sure.
by messwiththebull on May 20, 2008 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only elite PG to win a championship in the last 15 years is Billups
I think if you have an elite 2 guard, you dont necessarily need an elite PG
by shoryuken on May 20, 2008 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beasley isn't Shaq, Duncan, or Hakeem
He’s an undersized scoring PF. He’s more Durant/Carmelo. Maybe I’ll change my mind when I look at him closer, but I’d have to convince myself that Beasley would be a defensive force as well as an offensive force.
formerly sbulls
by Scotter on May 20, 2008 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i saw Durant's last game here in Oakland
kid went for like 42 and 15.
Beasley is no Durant.
by Orlando Woolridge on May 20, 2008 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Tony Delk once went for 50
and Jamal Crawford did it twice. Claiming an NBA player is great based on a single game is ridiculous.
formerly sbulls
by Scotter on May 20, 2008 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the kid is a legit 6'9" is very skilled and cares about the game
have you looked at his stats after the All Star Break?
you should, because you will see that Durant has a STEEEP learning curve.
by Orlando Woolridge on May 20, 2008 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but then again...
Beasley averaged 28 ppg for a team with no other player i can name off the top of my head
by Orlando Woolridge on May 20, 2008 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can actually make an argument that Beasley was better than
Durant in Big 12 play very easily. Both were offensive monsters, but Beasley rebounded as well.
My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!
by wjb1492 on May 20, 2008 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"in Big 12 play"
when Beasley plays on the Durant level of his post all star rookie year (NBA), i will eat my own shit and eat in on you tube.
guaransheed
by Orlando Woolridge on May 20, 2008 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's kind of hard to compare them on any other level,
considering Beasley hasn’t played in the NBA yet.
My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!
by wjb1492 on May 20, 2008 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Durant did get better, which I said up thread.
But, really only his shooting %s improved. The kid has to be more of a scorer and he has to be able to make a defensive impact in order to be a real factor.
formerly sbulls
by Scotter on May 20, 2008 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Durant has an NBA body....
Beasley has a Charles Barkeley PF body, so he must be dedicated to the game and ultra-talented to succeed as a PF at that height.
what postiiton does he play anyway?
by Orlando Woolridge on May 20, 2008 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah he's definitely not duncan or hakeem level in the post yet
but he is he’s a better low post player than durant or melo. Rebounding wise I would say he is as almost as good as Duncan or Shaq coming out of college though … which is light years ahead of Melo or Durant
by shoryuken on May 20, 2008 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wellll
I think it’s too soon to say Beasley can’t be something. He did have one of the best freshman seasons in NCAA history. Keep in mind Hakeem barely played his freshman year. I’m very pro-Rose but I won’t sell Beasley short, he’s pretty awesome.
by YaoPau on May 20, 2008 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
great point
if you draft a frontcourt ‘superstar’, that implies that he’s a game-changer on defense as well. A perimeter star has fewer responsibilities on that end.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heat fans hate me
all my buddies down here in miami are hating my guts right now. i love it.
i’m torn two ways. beasley would be that legitimate post presence we’ve wanted, i mean he can score however from 18 feet in, but i think we’ve seen what a star point guard does. (Paul, d.williams, tony parker, billups, nash… the list goes on and on.)
by BULLieving in Miami on May 20, 2008 10:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
With the first pick in the 2008 NBA draft....
...The Chicago Bulls select…..O.J. Mayo from the University of Southern California!
Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.
by Bricks and Ivy on May 20, 2008 10:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
joking
I’d take Rose
Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.
by Bricks and Ivy on May 20, 2008 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do I feel like
we are about 20 minutes away from the NBA observer giving us a 3 paragraph post about how Danilo Gallinari would solve the Bulls problems?
by bullsfanhongkong on May 20, 2008 10:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Where do we get a tall shooter then?
Anyone?
by iBurkey on May 20, 2008 10:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I've never heard
anybody say a team lacked a “tall shooter”.
by YaoPau on May 20, 2008 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, spelling it out for you, our SG is short. And Thabo isn't yet a shooter.
by iBurkey on May 20, 2008 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deng is our tall shooter.
But if you mean tall 3-point threat, I’m not sure there’s an actual height requirement there. After all, as someon pointed out above, having another offensive threat on the floor means teams will actually get punished for doubling so aggressively on Ben Gordon.
Without the aggressive double-teams, Gordon can revert back to his rookie year form, and be that consistent outside threat.
And plus, there’s always… Dimitris Nichols?
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on May 20, 2008 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we all know
the answer to this question.
"Glen Davis??? wow!! We had Glen Davis, his name is Michael Sweetney" - tyrus4prez
by NittanyBull on May 20, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No wrong choice.
Honestly guys, the Bulls can’t go wrong with either guy. In Rose you get a PG with the size of Deron Williams and the passing skills of CP3 and with the mediocre PG play we’ve seen last season (Hinrich and Duhon specifically) we need a good floor general. Plus he’s a hometown guy. In Beasely we get a true scoring forward with superstar presence ala Lebron and Melo. He also gives us another option at forward (the bruising style of Gooden, the high-flying style of Thomas and the icey finese of Deng) And like Rose he wants the ball at crunch time. This is too good to be true AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!! Sorry just cranked some nut on my keyboard.
by JohnnyKilroy on May 20, 2008 10:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Trade
Hinrich and Simmons (salary reasons…) to Portland for LaFrentz, Jack, and the 13th pick.
In that situation, we take Rose then look at a big at 13. Then we take a big. Choosing between Love, Arthur, Jordan, Speights, Lopez (Robin), Randolph… Or we could take that pick and get a big guard, ie Rush or Budinger. I kind of like that idea.
by bullsfanhongkong on May 20, 2008 10:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Love, Jordan, Randolph, Arthur
All 4 might not make it to the 13th pick.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you just say
you like your own idea?
by YaoPau on May 20, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rock on dude.
What about the skinny european guy, uh, Nicolas Batum?
by iBurkey on May 20, 2008 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Veteran star big
is what we need, and I think we can get one (Aldridge, Marion for example) with some of the pieces we have.
by swede2287 on May 20, 2008 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quick hint
Don’t bring up Aldridge as a star big around here. Aldridge is a younger Joe Smith and there are long threads here in the archives explaining why. Marion is good, but serious contract issues.
formerly sbulls
by Scotter on May 20, 2008 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen
If Aldridge is a star, it starts t hurt looking at Tyrus
by Alighieri on May 20, 2008 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Hughes doesn't have contract issues...
We have players with contract issues – we could still package them for a player like Marion.
by swede2287 on May 20, 2008 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rose already likes the idea of playing in a Bulls uniform
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/basketball/bulls/961332,rose052008.article
This is just great great great stuff
by Option27 on May 20, 2008 10:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
HOLY F*CKING SHIT!
Best night in a LONG time to be a Bulls fan. I freaked out tonight when it happened, and….immediately renewed the season tix! :)
Every time I think I’m out…...they PULL ME BACK IN!!!
GO BULLS!
by Jobu on May 20, 2008 10:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh my
I cared so little about the draft lottery that I went to the Sox game. When the news started going around the stands, I was just floored. As terrible a season as the Bulls just had, it’s now the best thing to happen for the franchise since MJ retired. I have no opinion yet on whether the Bulls should draft